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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: ren on October 03, 2017, 11:59:22 AM
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I'm an NRA member and I was not involved in that shooting what so ever.
So how does the NRA get pulled into these tragedies?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/rosanne-cash-country-musicians-stand-up-to-the-nra/ar-AAsRzFT?li=AA2qN5v&ocid=ientp (http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/rosanne-cash-country-musicians-stand-up-to-the-nra/ar-AAsRzFT?li=AA2qN5v&ocid=ientp)
By the same logic, victims of drunk drivers should be protesting and decrying ads from beer makers and car makers.
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People who are not in the NRA think the NRA is some organization primarily paid for by firearm companies. They think it is like a PAC when a few billionaires use it to lobby congress. They forget that the NRA is actually made up of members paying dues.
They think if they could just disband the NRA everything would be fixed. They forget that all those members would just join another group or make another one. Its not like cutting off the head of a snake like they think it will be.
Side note. Dont listen to the opinions of people who make music or play make believe in the movies. Being able to sing doesnt give you more credibility.
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People will blame the biggest target because they can't kill a dead guy.
What these people forget is that the NRA is 4 or 5 million real people...not a big building filled with politicians and lawyers.
NRA did not do anything wrong, therefore it does not need to issue any statement unless falsely accused of wrongdoing.
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By the same logic, victims of drunk drivers should be protesting and decrying ads from beer makers and car makers.
This one would be reasonable in my opinion, and I'm guessing some do. But associating the NRA with mass shootings is the least logical of the three given examples.
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I'm an NRA member and I was not involved in that shooting what so ever.
So how does the NRA get pulled into these tragedies?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/rosanne-cash-country-musicians-stand-up-to-the-nra/ar-AAsRzFT?li=AA2qN5v&ocid=ientp (http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/rosanne-cash-country-musicians-stand-up-to-the-nra/ar-AAsRzFT?li=AA2qN5v&ocid=ientp)
By the same logic, victims of drunk drivers should be protesting and decrying ads from beer makers and car makers.
Because in their mind, if the NRA didn't exist, we would already have more gun control in place that would have prevented this or reduced the body count.
Someone on Facebook posted a quote about how keeping guns legal was saying dead kids are bearable for their freedom. While there is a certain logic to the cost/benefits of freedoms I pointed out that every time they buy a beer they are saying people who die from DUI crashes are bearable for their freedom to drink.
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sorry ...venting.
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When a bad mass shooting occurred a few years ago, my progressive cousin was posting that it was the NRA's fault. When I pressed him as to why he started spewing a bunch of lies about the NRA so I corrected him. But he is back screaming that the NRA is partly responsible for this shooting and spewing the same lies I corrected him about a few years ago. :( :( :(
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Thought this was interesting. There's nothing the government or anyone else can do to predict who will commit these crimes without resorting to draconian measures, such as rounding up people who they think might do it in the future. So blaming the NRA, politicans, gun owners, whoever is stupid. If the person doesn't have access to nukes, they'll use missiles, etc etc if no firearms, they'll use vehicles or bombs or planes. Regulating one area will simply push the terrorists/shooters to use other means and depriving the law abiding citizen of means of recreation and self defense.
https://www.vox.com/2016/6/15/11934794/cartoon-predicting-a-mass-shooting-mathematically-impossible?yptr=yahoo
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While there is a certain logic to the cost/benefits of freedoms I pointed out that every time they buy a beer they are saying people who die from DUI crashes are bearable for their freedom to drink.
Ironicly, prohibition is the main reason for the National Firearms Act of 1934. Prohibition was a resounding failure but led to a different prohibition, albeit limited in comparison.
There's nothing the government or anyone else can do to predict who will commit these crimes without resorting to draconian measures, such as rounding up people who they think might do it in the future.
Start with rounding up all of the accountants, especially the retired ones...
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Whenever gun control advocates say the firearm community cares not for the lives of children or people in general, it helps me to keep things in perspective by considering the lives lost and future lives lost in comparison to the loss of an entire nation due to the inability of its citizens to fight back against the government politicians who constantly seek to subvert their ability to resist them.
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It is childish for people to blame me - a lawful, sane gun owner for the acts of an evil person.
What all these celebrities and liberals did was put blame on ALL of us.
This argument of the 2A being antiquated and relegated to muskets is absurd as much as the 1A only applied to print paper and not social media.