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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: macsak on November 14, 2017, 08:30:33 AM

Title: another school shooting
Post by: macsak on November 14, 2017, 08:30:33 AM
in California today

of course, the governor previously made it illegal to carry on campus...
Title: Re: another school shooting
Post by: oldfart on November 14, 2017, 09:06:28 AM
Apparently people had ample warning and decided that it wasn't important.
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msn quote:

The roommates lived near the gunman, and the surviving witness said that their neighbor had been shooting a lot of rounds recently.
"The crazy thing is that the neighbor has been shooting a lot of bullets lately, hundreds of rounds, large magazines," he said. "This guy has been crazy, and he's been threatening us and everything. I just feel like there maybe should have been more effort put into stopping things like this."
Title: Re: another school shooting
Post by: 2ahavvaii on November 14, 2017, 09:13:53 AM
is it too early to be sarcastic and say "thank god for gun free zones"?
Title: Re: another school shooting
Post by: Drakiir84 on November 14, 2017, 09:35:09 AM
Also saw a claim that the shooter was a known felon...... wonder how he got his gun.  Will wait for the facts.
Title: Re: another school shooting
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 14, 2017, 09:36:10 AM
Apparently people had ample warning and decided that it wasn't important.
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msn quote:

The roommates lived near the gunman, and the surviving witness said that their neighbor had been shooting a lot of rounds recently.
"The crazy thing is that the neighbor has been shooting a lot of bullets lately, hundreds of rounds, large magazines," he said. "This guy has been crazy, and he's been threatening us and everything. I just feel like there maybe should have been more effort put into stopping things like this."

That statement implies, "The government should have done more, because I was timid and didn't want to get involved.  The government should know everything about everybody without the people closest to the problem having to tell them."

Abdicating one's civic responsibility to report suspicious or unusual behavior to the police is why we get reports of friends and neighbors saying, "He was obviously crazy, and everyone around him knew it."   :wacko:
Title: Re: another school shooting
Post by: ren on November 14, 2017, 09:44:19 AM
Apparently people had ample warning and decided that it wasn't important.
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msn quote:

The roommates lived near the gunman, and the surviving witness said that their neighbor had been shooting a lot of rounds recently.
"The crazy thing is that the neighbor has been shooting a lot of bullets lately, hundreds of rounds, large magazines," he said. "This guy has been crazy, and he's been threatening us and everything. I just feel like there maybe should have been more effort put into stopping things like this."

30 caliber clips...half a second
Title: Re: another school shooting
Post by: 2ahavvaii on November 15, 2017, 10:33:53 AM
Yes, stronger firearms laws would have prevented this tragedy  :wacko:  Hows about enforcing current laws and restrictions first?




At the time of the attack, the gunman was out on bail after he was charged with stabbing a neighbor. Others had complained about him firing hundreds of rounds from his house, and the assistant sheriff acknowledged officers had visited the home.

“We can’t anticipate what people are going to do. We don’t have a crystal ball,” Johnston said.

Yet Neal was free and able to use a semi-automatic rifle and two handguns Tuesday to shoot 14 people, including at an elementary school, before he died in a shootout with police.

It’s not yet clear what the terms of Neal’s bail were, and whether he would have been allowed to possess and fire the weapons on his property at the end of a dirt road in Rancho Tehama Reserve.
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She and her father, who is president of the community’s homeowners’ association, said neighbors would complain to the sheriff’s department, which referred the complaints back to the homeowners’ association.

“The sheriff wouldn’t do anything about it,” Juan Caravez said.

The gunman’s sister, Sheridan Orr, said her brother had struggled with mental illness throughout his life and at times had a violent temper.
Title: Re: another school shooting
Post by: ren on November 15, 2017, 03:53:37 PM
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/36846982/police-knew-madman-had-illegal-guns-before-killing-rampage (http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/36846982/police-knew-madman-had-illegal-guns-before-killing-rampage)
Title: Re: another school shooting
Post by: macsak on November 15, 2017, 04:10:36 PM
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/36846982/police-knew-madman-had-illegal-guns-before-killing-rampage (http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/36846982/police-knew-madman-had-illegal-guns-before-killing-rampage)

"recovered two homemade assault rifles and two handguns registered to someone else."
 :o
Title: Re: another school shooting
Post by: macsak on November 15, 2017, 10:33:48 PM
"recovered two homemade assault rifles and two handguns registered to someone else."
 :o

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/despite-court-order-to-give-up-weapons-tehama-gunman-fired-guns-with-impunity-frightening-neighbors/ar-BBF0cXD?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp