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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: suka on December 07, 2017, 08:26:18 PM
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Walmart is just 5 min walk from the house.
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Walmart is just 5 min walk from the house.
Yup me too about 5 minutes from Wally World....
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Walmart is just 5 min walk from the house.
10 minutes for me. I'm near Kipapa Elementary School.
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Sources said they were caught at the Theaters. Back to the safe they (guns) go.
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Sources said they were caught at the Theaters. Back to the safe they (guns) go.
HNN said when the 9:00 news started both suspects were in custody.
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a link would be nice. what walmart?
at home, I always have a handgun locked and loaded. If they're breaking in, and I have more time, I'll grab and load the shotgun.
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The girl was found tied up, but was otherwise uninjured.
"They tied up my daughter and they beat my wife to death with a baseball bat," said the victim's husband, Kevin Emery. "They won't even let me in the house because it's so bad."
Ok i found it
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/37021422/homicide-investigators-responding-to-fatality-at-north-shore-home
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I'd just like to thank the police for finding the perpetrators. While the family won't be able to bring back the wife, they can rest assured the criminals will go to jail, and that a complete and detailed police report was filed.
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Sources said they were caught at the Theaters. Back to the safe they (guns) go.
Might want to keep them out for a bit longer. Did they catch the right guys?
I hope so
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Really hard to watch the videos of the husband saying how his wife died.
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I was thinking that a person with a baseball bat or knife coming into my house would have an advantage over me. My guns are all locked up and ammo is stored separate. I don't carry in my house. I don't want to be at that level of alertness while in my perceived sanctuary.
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I was thinking that a person with a baseball bat or knife coming into my house would have an advantage over me. My guns are all locked up and ammo is stored separate. I don't carry in my house. I don't want to be at that level of alertness while in my perceived sanctuary.
Get a quick safe.
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Get a quick safe.
I was just thinking about that :D
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I was thinking that a person with a baseball bat or knife coming into my house would have an advantage over me. My guns are all locked up and ammo is stored separate. I don't carry in my house. I don't want to be at that level of alertness while in my perceived sanctuary.
You do what you feel comfortable doing, it's your safety and life. But for me, my door is pretty flimsy so it woudln't take much to kick in. That's why my firearm is always in arms reach. Where as when I lived at home, my parents door is solid wood and it would take a battering ram to breach it. There is also only 1 point of entry.
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You do what you feel comfortable doing, it's your safety and life. But for me, my door is pretty flimsy so it woudln't take much to kick in. That's why my firearm is always in arms reach. Where as when I lived at home, my parents door is solid wood and it would take a battering ram to breach it. There is also only 1 point of entry.
That is also on the assumption that no one forgot to lock the door and the intruder is already sneaking around.
But as you said, whatever you feel comfortable doing is what the threshold should be. And if you have kids around or expect to have kids or others that shouldn't be around firearms, the bar is much higher as far as the safety measures taken.
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That is also on the assumption that no one forgot to lock the door and the intruder is already sneaking around.
But as you said, whatever you feel comfortable doing is what the threshold should be. And if you have kids around or expect to have kids or others that shouldn't be around firearms, the bar is much higher as far as the safety measures taken.
There is a dune buggy racer in Vegas (Baldwin I think) that he has suppressors on his home carry pistols because he has 2 children in the home (1 infant) and wants to reduce the hearing damage as much as he can if he needs to shoot while holding the baby. Pretty good reason if you ask me.
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We should vote to bring back the death penalty in capital crimes.
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Passed by there a little after 2 pm yesterday on my way to Hale'iwa.
On the return just after 4 pm, saw the yellow tape, HPD and ambulance there. Ambulance driver hugging/consoling a women
Figured it was possibly a homicide due to yellow tape.
Shame !
Guess my house cleaner will have to start pack'n.
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https://www.facebook.com/Axel.Hendrix.3994885
people reporting this the guy. Brown aka alex
surprised facebook hasn't deleted the guys account yet.
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Sorry, but it took me a few hours to figure out what original post was about.
I’m nearby Walmart too, in Kapolei. I didn’t know Walmart was a dangerous place.
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There is a dune buggy racer in Vegas (Baldwin I think) that he has suppressors on his home carry pistols because he has 2 children in the home (1 infant) and wants to reduce the hearing damage as much as he can if he needs to shoot while holding the baby. Pretty good reason if you ask me.
That's the reason why I have electronic muffs right above my green laser sighted Glock. Electronic muffs will protect your hearing AND give you bionic hearing at the same time.
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I was just thinking about that :D
I got this
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HRJSWMK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
mounted in a location where one wouldn't usually have or hide valuables. It is small, fast to get open, for just in case....
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I keep posting ads when the FAS1 quick-safes go on sale. The discount nearly covers the high cost of shipping to HI, which unfortunately has risen to over double what I paid for USPS on my first safe purchase.
When I used a $100 quick-safe, I always moved the handgun to my gun safe when I left the house. Most handgun quick-safes are not much more secure than a cash register or locked cash box.
The FAS1 is heavy gauge steel and weighs about 25 lbs! Its gas-assisted opener presents the pistols grip in its holster. And the lock is a high-quality mechanical 5-push-button lock that let's you program single or double presses for more combinations. With the key-lock feature they offer, you can even lock out the push-button lock to prevent kids or thieves from trying to guess the combo when you're gone.
There are lots of gun boxes out there with a variety of uses, but this is one of the few I've found that can actually be classified as a safe. I have no worries leaving my pistols locked in them 24/7.
I highly recommend this. It'll be your handgun safe for the life of the gun, and you can store pretty much anything of value in it that fits.
http://products.fas1safe.com/product.sc?productId=1&categoryId=1
https://youtu.be/VY9h0EqwwZ8
https://youtu.be/r0zklqQywAY
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What is the law on carrying weapons at your place of employment, like in this case where the woman cleaned other peoples homes? Was there any court case or legal opinion on it? Or is it that some cop said you can't.
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What is the law on carrying weapons at your place of employment, like in this case where the woman cleaned other peoples homes? Was there any court case or legal opinion on it? Or is it that some cop said you can't.
If she was carrying, I think a case of justified self defense would negate any firearms charges.
If not, at least she'd be alive.
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If she was carrying, I think a case of justified self defense would negate any firearms charges.
If not, at least she'd be alive.
Justified SD will NOT negate firearms charged. I know a person who used a firearm in self defense here. They were acquitted on assault with a deadly weapon, however, convicted on the firearm charge. Spent 5yrs in prison, convicted felon, no more rights. That's Hawaii's messed up system for you. And why I get so irate at Hawaii's perverted love affair with criminals and lowlifes..
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Justified SD will NOT negate firearms charged. I know a person who used a firearm in self defense here. They were acquitted on assault with a deadly weapon, however, convicted on the firearm charge. Spent 5yrs in prison, convicted felon, no more rights. That's Hawaii's messed up system for you. And why I get so irate at Hawaii's perverted love affair with criminals and lowlifes..
You didn't say what the firearms charge was. Prohibited possession? Place to keep? Unregistered firearm?
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You didn't say what the firearms charge was. Prohibited possession? Place to keep? Unregistered firearm?
Don't know the exact charge. However, all I know he wasn't a felon until he used a gun in self defense. He alive but now a felon. That says enough, IMO
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Justified SD will NOT negate firearms charged. I know a person who used a firearm in self defense here. They were acquitted on assault with a deadly weapon, however, convicted on the firearm charge. Spent 5yrs in prison, convicted felon, no more rights. That's Hawaii's messed up system for you. And why I get so irate at Hawaii's perverted love affair with criminals and lowlifes..
not only hawaii, but in other states. I read that if you shoot someone in SD in a gun free zone, you are highly likely to be charged. If you do it in a non-gun free zone, but otherwise restricted (like private property or somewhere where there's a no-gun policy), you're not likely to be charged.
So say you're walking around in chinatown concealed carry, get assaulted, shoot the guy in self defense, like you said likely to get acquitted on assault or even murder, but going to get hit with a firearm charge.
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It all depends how good her atty is. The rental could be her "place of business". But a hassle to carry because she has to dissarm when leaving and unload, put gun in case. Then cant grab a coffee or supplies with gun in car.
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It all depends how good her atty is. The rental could be her "place of business". But a hassle to carry because she has to dissarm when leaving and unload, put gun in case. Then cant grab a coffee or supplies with gun in car.
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yea forgot about that part.
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You're allowed to carry at your place of business if your boss/owner allows. --- Does the landlord also have to give permission? Say you're a business owner leasing in a building owned by someone else/ corporation? Just curious, I am not in that situation.
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You're allowed to carry at your place of business if your boss/owner allows. --- Does the landlord also have to give permission? Say you're a business owner leasing in a building owned by someone else/ corporation? Just curious, I am not in that situation.
if it is not explicit in your lease that they are not allowed, it is ok
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if it is not explicit in your lease that they are not allowed, it is ok
In a job where you travel to other people's homes to clean, the line between place of business and a remote job location not under your legal control gets blurred.
Baker would have been able to carry if he could have stipulated anyone's home he served court papers to was his place of business.
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In a job where you travel to other people's homes to clean, the line between place of business and a remote job location not under your legal control gets blurred.
Baker would have been able to carry if he could have stipulated anyone's home he served court papers to was his place of business.
But would he have to take his unloaded weapon out of a case and then load it after he stepped off the public sidewalk and was on the person's property? And then unload and back into the gun case before he stepped back on to the sidewalk?
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But would he have to take his unloaded weapon out of a case and then load it after he stepped off the public sidewalk and was on the person's property? And then unload and back into the gun case before he stepped back on to the sidewalk?
We can hypothetically parse "what ifs" all day. It comes down to common sense on your part. Odds of getting arrested between the roadway and the property line are essentially zero. Odds of a Cop walking up to the car while you have a concealed firearm on is probably higher. What are the odds a house cleaner would even wear a holster? More likely going to have the firearm in a purse or other type bag to facilitate cleaning and moving around. If the mag is not inserted, but the pistol and mag are in the purse, that ought to be legal. Nothing in the law says the case has to be specifically a gun case.
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We can hypothetically parse "what ifs" all day. It comes down to common sense on your part. Odds of getting arrested between the roadway and the property line are essentially zero. Odds of a Cop walking up to the car while you have a concealed firearm on is probably higher. What are the odds a house cleaner would even wear a holster? More likely going to have the firearm in a purse or other type bag to facilitate cleaning and moving around. If the mag is not inserted, but the pistol and mag are in the purse, that ought to be legal. Nothing in the law says the case has to be specifically a gun case.
Double action hammerless revolver in ankle holster. ;D
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Interesting scenarios. Say you do shoot someone in self defense outside of your home. If you have a commercially manufactured pistol sock with you, whose to say that you didn't pull it out, slap the mag into it, then shoot the attacker? They really going to take the word of the assailant? Assuming he's still alive?
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Interesting scenarios. Say you do shoot someone in self defense outside of your home. If you have a commercially manufactured pistol sock with you, whose to say that you didn't pull it out, slap the mag into it, then shoot the attacker? They really going to take the word of the assailant? Assuming he's still alive?
shooting someone outside your home is not likely to be looked upon favorably by the state, even in self defense
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if it is not explicit in your lease that they are not allowed, it is ok
Thanks Mac. My company has it clearly stated in our employee handbook "No firearms allowed on premises".
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Interesting scenarios. Say you do shoot someone in self defense outside of your home. If you have a commercially manufactured pistol sock with you, whose to say that you didn't pull it out, slap the mag into it, then shoot the attacker? They really going to take the word of the assailant? Assuming he's still alive?
Articulation is everything
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