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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: punaperson on February 18, 2018, 07:59:47 AM

Title: "These things only happen in the United States..."
Post by: punaperson on February 18, 2018, 07:59:47 AM
How many times have we heard "These things only happen in the United States..." and similar claims? They are completely false of course (see the link below to Crime Research Center article ranking U.S. far below many European countries in RATE of public mass murders). Here is an article today (be sure to note what caused the end of the attack):

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/682783/Dagestan-Russia-shooting-festival-gunman-deaths-casualties-police-shooter

Gunman opens fire on church festival crowd with at least five dead
A GUNMAN has slaughtered at least five people after opening fire on a church festival crowd in southern Russia.

He went on the rampage armed with a hunting rifle in the city of Kizlyar in the Republic of Dagestan.

The shooter targeted a group of people celebrating a religious folk festival and injured four others.

Security guards killed the attacker – said to be a local resident born in 1995 – but two of them were wounded in the process.

The four fatalities are reportedly female civilians who were leaving an Orthodox Sunday service.

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Lengthy article, but sometimes facts are like that.

[EDIT: Sorry, inadvertently failed to paste the url for the article: https://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/comparing-death-rates-from-mass-public-shootings-in-the-us-and-europe/]

Comparing Death Rates from Mass Public Shootings and Mass Public Violence in the US and Europe

(https://crimeresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Screen-Shot-2016-04-05-at-Tuesday-April-5-1.05-AM.png)

(https://crimeresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Screen-Shot-2016-04-05-at-Tuesday-April-5-1.06-AM.png)
Title: Re: "These things only happen in the United States..."
Post by: rklapp on February 18, 2018, 08:41:39 AM
The hate is thick this morning on social media and TV.
Title: Re: "These things only happen in the United States..."
Post by: eyeeatingfish on February 19, 2018, 03:11:20 PM
Yoink! Stealing these for my facebook debates!
Title: Re: "These things only happen in the United States..."
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 20, 2018, 10:36:47 AM
What else only happens in the good ole US of A:

1) Landing on the moon
2) Put a car in space
3) Bailed many countries out of WWI & WWII
4) Bacon, beer, and guns
Title: Re: "These things only happen in the United States..."
Post by: ren on February 20, 2018, 10:48:55 AM
This only happened in Bangladesh
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36692613 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36692613)

But how did this happen in Bangladesh and what are their gun laws like???
https://www.romper.com/p/what-are-bangladeshs-gun-laws-they-didnt-come-into-play-during-dhaka-attack-13621 (https://www.romper.com/p/what-are-bangladeshs-gun-laws-they-didnt-come-into-play-during-dhaka-attack-13621)
surprise surprise

On another but related issue, bloggers were killed because of their views in Bangladesh. Killed by Muslim extremists.

Why didn't we hear about this in our news?
Because of hubris. But events like this happen.
Title: Re: "These things only happen in the United States..."
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 20, 2018, 12:42:54 PM
This only happened in Bangladesh
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36692613 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36692613)

But how did this happen in Bangladesh and what are their gun laws like???
https://www.romper.com/p/what-are-bangladeshs-gun-laws-they-didnt-come-into-play-during-dhaka-attack-13621 (https://www.romper.com/p/what-are-bangladeshs-gun-laws-they-didnt-come-into-play-during-dhaka-attack-13621)
surprise surprise

On another but related issue, bloggers were killed because of their views in Bangladesh. Killed by Muslim extremists.

Why didn't we hear about this in our news?
Because of hubris. But events like this happen.

Russia  interferes in every election.  You didn't care until you were told to care.
Statues stood for over 100 years. You didn't care until you were told to care.
People are killed daily by guns in cities like Chicago. You don't care about gun violence, until you're told to care.