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Title: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: macsak on February 23, 2018, 05:08:51 PM
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=2046
Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: macsak on February 23, 2018, 05:16:39 PM
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=2046

testimony DUE MONDAY 9:30 am!
Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: macsak on February 23, 2018, 05:34:19 PM
testimony DUE MONDAY 9:30 am!

notice that they not only made the announcement as late as they could, they are also limiting in-person testimony:

Decision making meeting only, no oral testimony will be accepted.
 
Persons wishing to submit written testimony may do so up to 24 hours prior to the hearing.
Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: zippz on February 23, 2018, 05:35:05 PM
If you signed the paper testimony at koko head last weekend, you don't have to do new testimony online.

If you do want to submit testimony online, like to add comments, msg me so I can discard the paper one.
Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: macsak on February 24, 2018, 10:46:07 PM
If you signed the paper testimony at koko head last weekend, you don't have to do new testimony online.

If you do want to submit testimony online, like to add comments, msg me so I can discard the paper one.

bump

please get your friends and family to testify!
Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: Gordyf on February 25, 2018, 10:08:35 AM
Done! for what it may be worth. What was the count at the last hearing? some 5 or 6 for and over a hundred against. Passed unanimously?
I guess we gotta keep trying, but is is discouraging sometimes.
If you are not an AR guy, even California laws are better in many ways than ours.
Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: oldfart on February 25, 2018, 11:35:01 AM
done
Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: Bota-CS1 on February 25, 2018, 12:34:34 PM
done
Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: Boomah on February 25, 2018, 01:44:13 PM
Copy all macsak  :thumbsup:

Already submitted for HB1908, will do the same regarding SB2046.

Mahalos  :shaka:

Boomah
Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: Bota-CS1 on February 25, 2018, 06:26:28 PM
Big mahalo to the all the volunteers that covered KHSC this weekend!  :shaka:
Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: macsak on February 25, 2018, 06:51:08 PM
Big mahalo to the all the volunteers that covered KHSC this weekend!  :shaka:

and last weekend too!

check the testimony on Tuesday to see the results
we do need more help, though...
Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: Bota-CS1 on February 25, 2018, 07:19:13 PM
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Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: Heavies on February 25, 2018, 08:35:26 PM
Done
Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: myanmar1 on February 25, 2018, 09:40:31 PM
Done
Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: stangzilla on February 26, 2018, 07:21:37 AM
Done
Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: DeejayTTHawaii on February 26, 2018, 08:21:41 AM
Submitted
Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: fishandshoot on February 26, 2018, 08:34:04 AM
Sent!
Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: London808 on February 26, 2018, 09:22:44 AM
I strongly Oppose SB2046

This is a poorly thought out and worded law that does NOTHING to protect the people and has no effect on the possession of bumpstocks or other devices. 

The legislators that write these laws and vote on them have little to no understanding on the design or function of firearms. 

Bump firing can and is done by the function of how a semi automatic firearm operates, It can be done with rifle and pistols and requires no device or aid to function. 

So this law does one of  three  things. 
1 : It does NOTHING
2 : it bans any item that can be used to aid bump firing (string, belts, rubber bands etc....)
3 : it bans semi automatic firearms. 

The maximum fire rate of a semi autocratic is limited only by the rate at which the firearm can mechanically cycle. Typically with AR15's that rate is 600 rounds per minute (some faster) . So no device bump stock or otherwise would accelerate the rate of fire beyond what the firearm is capable of ,making this law yet again mute. 
Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: 2ahavvaii on February 26, 2018, 09:47:28 AM
submitted.  I emphasized #2 and the fact that it's the former AG's opinion that the devices are already banned under the automatic weapon ban.

Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 26, 2018, 09:51:10 AM
Someone posted on SSH Hawaii.  I thought the mods would take it down right away, but they left it up because it affects defense and law abiding citizens.  Many commenting didn't know about the bill and thought it was BS.
Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: zippz on February 26, 2018, 02:59:03 PM
Be careful where you post messages up on social media.  It lets the antigun side know what's coming up and they'll rally.
Title: Re: FIRE MISSION - SB2046 testimony due 2/26 9:30 AM!!!!!
Post by: macsak on February 26, 2018, 06:42:20 PM
here's the testimony:
34 support
300+ oppose

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/Session2018/Testimony/SB2046_TESTIMONY_JDC_02-27-18_.PDF

great job, but we need even more next time!

Title: HELP US BREAK 500 TESTIMONY!!!!
Post by: zippz on February 26, 2018, 07:37:34 PM
HELP US BREAK 500 TESTIMONY!!!!
We need 34 more!


(https://i.imgur.com/zCDlr8O.jpg)

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=2046&year=2018

Current estimated numbers of testimony is:
466 Opposed
38 Support
1 Comments

Note:  They haven't processed 64 handwritten testimony yet which I added to the numbers.
Title: Re: HELP US BREAK 500 TESTIMONY!!!!
Post by: macsak on February 27, 2018, 11:35:26 AM
HELP US BREAK 500 TESTIMONY!!!!
We need 34 more!


(https://i.imgur.com/zCDlr8O.jpg)

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=2046&year=2018

Current estimated numbers of testimony is:
466 Opposed
38 Support
1 Comments

Note:  They haven't processed 64 handwritten testimony yet which I added to the numbers.

updated testimony
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/Session2018/Testimony/SB2046_TESTIMONY_JDC_02-27-18_.PDF