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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: rustyeleio on April 23, 2018, 12:56:09 PM

Title: Toronto, rental van purposefully crashes into crowd, killing 9, injuring 16
Post by: rustyeleio on April 23, 2018, 12:56:09 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/04/23/van-plows-into-crowd-in-toronto-nine-dead-driver-in-custody-cops-say.html (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/04/23/van-plows-into-crowd-in-toronto-nine-dead-driver-in-custody-cops-say.html)

And here come the demands to ban vehicles in 3-2-1...3/4...1/2...1/4...nothing huh? Could that be because those that claim to want to stop mass murder by banning guns 1) care little to nothing about the actual murder and are only interested in stopping firearm ownership to make themselves feel better at night OR 2) will not ban anything that makes their own lives convenient.

Don't even try to make the argument that a vehicle was not intended to kill people because it obviously can and does so with much more frequency than all firearms combined.
Title: Re: Toronto, rental van purposefully crashes into crowd, killing 9, injuring 16
Post by: GlockNewb on April 23, 2018, 01:09:47 PM
I think MSD survivor Kyle Kashuv put it best...

https://twitter.com/KyleKashuv/status/988517346951221249
Title: Re: Toronto, rental van purposefully crashes into crowd, killing 9, injuring 16
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 23, 2018, 01:10:38 PM
"If  he had an Assault Rifle, there would have been more than 9 dead."
Title: Re: Toronto, rental van purposefully crashes into crowd, killing 9, injuring 16
Post by: RSN172 on April 23, 2018, 01:11:17 PM
Kill someone with a gun, gun gets most of the blame.  Kill someone on purpose with a vehicle, only the driver gets blamed.  Seems fair to me.
Title: Re: Toronto, rental van purposefully crashes into crowd, killing 9, injuring 16
Post by: rustyeleio on April 23, 2018, 01:59:34 PM
"If  he had an Assault Rifle, there would have been more than 9 dead."

My response would be that the killer was a coward that didn't wan't to be caught which is what ended the killing spree.  The vehicle was still running so he could have easily ran over more people if he had the mindset to do so.  No reloading or anything...
Title: Re: Toronto, rental van purposefully crashes into crowd, killing 9, injuring 16
Post by: zippz on April 23, 2018, 04:35:03 PM
Copy cats terrorizing innocent people again.  That's a lot of lives and families torn apart.  Not just a US thing.  The world has to rise up and get rid of these terrorists instead of expecting the US to do everything.

If you were armed and saw a vehicle plowing down the sidewalk, would you shoot and attempt to stop the vehicle?
Title: Re: Toronto, rental van purposefully crashes into crowd, killing 9, injuring 16
Post by: RSN172 on April 23, 2018, 05:26:36 PM
If you were armed and saw a vehicle plowing down the sidewalk, would you shoot and attempt to stop the vehicle?

Only if it was coming directly at me and I had no place to run, otherwise No.
Title: Re: Toronto, rental van purposefully crashes into crowd, killing 9, injuring 16
Post by: groveler on April 23, 2018, 05:43:24 PM
Only if it was coming directly at me and I had no place to run, otherwise No.
If you were in Hawaii.
You don't have the right to carry a gun here outside your
residence, business or place of sojourn, how could you
possibly shoot?
Plus they will arrest you and destroy your gun automatically.
Here you are supposed to die  much like the Canadians.
So there is a target rich environment.


Title: Re: Toronto, rental van purposefully crashes into crowd, killing 9, injuring 16
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 23, 2018, 06:04:19 PM
Reports are saying 10 dead now & 15 wounded.

Driver tried to provoke suicide-by-cop, but the cop refused to shoot.  Some reports are saying he's being praised for that.  Maybe in the sense that we can possibly find out the "why", but it's almost guaranteed he'll claim not guilty by reason of insanity.
Title: Re: Toronto, rental van purposefully crashes into crowd, killing 9, injuring 16
Post by: RSN172 on April 23, 2018, 07:32:43 PM
If you were in Hawaii.
You don't have the right to carry a gun here outside your
residence, business or place of sojourn, how could you
possibly shoot?
Plus they will arrest you and destroy your gun automatically.
Here you are supposed to die  much like the Canadians.
So there is a target rich environment.
I don’t think zippz was meaning Hawaii when he posed that question.  I always carry on the mainland as the only places I will travel to is where one of the 3 state permits I have are honored.  I would like to know what others here would do in that situation.
Title: Re: Toronto, rental van purposefully crashes into crowd, killing 9, injuring 16
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 23, 2018, 08:26:59 PM
Reports are saying 10 dead now & 15 wounded.

Driver tried to provoke suicide-by-cop, but the cop refused to shoot.  Some reports are saying he's being praised for that.  Maybe in the sense that we can possibly find out the "why", but it's almost guaranteed he'll claim not guilty by reason of insanity.
And now its gonna cost taxpayers millions.

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Title: Re: Toronto, rental van purposefully crashes into crowd, killing 9, injuring 16
Post by: ren on April 25, 2018, 12:16:13 PM
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