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Title: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: PalisadesKid on June 27, 2018, 09:56:03 AM
Line up another SCOTUS nominee for Trump.

Supreme Court Justice Kennedy announced his retirement today effective 07/31/2018.

Time to start Googling where these Trump nominees stand with the Second Amendment:

Here are the candidates included on that list:

Amy Coney Barrett of Indiana, U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit
Keith Blackwell of Georgia, Supreme Court of Georgia
Charles Canady of Florida, Supreme Court of Florida
Steven Colloton of Iowa, U.S. Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit
Allison Eid of Colorado, U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit
Britt Grant of Georgia, Supreme Court of Georgia
Raymond Gruender of Missouri, U.S. Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit
Thomas Hardiman of Pennsylvania, U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit
Brett Kavanaugh of Maryland, U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit
Raymond Kethledge of Michigan, U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit
Joan Larsen of Michigan, U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit
Mike Lee of Utah, United States Senator
Thomas Lee of Utah, Supreme Court of Utah
Edward Mansfield of Iowa, Supreme Court of Iowa
Federico Moreno of Florida, U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida
Kevin Newsom of Alabama, U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit
William Pryor of Alabama, U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit
Margaret Ryan of Virginia, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces
David Stras of Minnesota, U.S. Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit
Diane Sykes of Wisconsin, U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit
Amul Thapar of Kentucky, U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit
Timothy Tymkovich of Colorado, U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit
Robert Young of Michigan, Supreme Court of Michigan (Ret.)
Don Willett of Texas, Supreme Court of Texas
Patrick Wyrick of Oklahoma, Supreme Court of Oklahoma
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: drck1000 on June 27, 2018, 10:21:47 AM
I saw that. This is huge.

Now just have to get Ginsburg to retire too.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: Drakiir84 on June 27, 2018, 10:35:11 AM
Good times.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: macsak on June 27, 2018, 10:38:14 AM
I saw that. This is huge.

Now just have to get Ginsburg to retire too.


to me, this was the most important thing about trump vs hills

if "it" won, the supremes would have been stacked way left for a generation
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: zippz on June 27, 2018, 10:49:20 AM
Good news if our open carry/ccw bill goes to Scotus.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: drck1000 on June 27, 2018, 10:49:25 AM

to me, this was the most important thing about trump vs hills

if "it" won, the supremes would have been stacked way left for a generation
I agree. Looking at the ages of the current justices, Ginsburg and Breyer could leave any time. Gorsuch for Scalia would have gone differently.

As we are today, there are 5 conservatives and younger than 70. If Kennedy and Scalia were to have been replaces with liberals, that could probably last 2-3 generations.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: RSN172 on June 27, 2018, 10:55:17 AM
Liberal judges Ginsberg and Breyer have both said they will not retire during a Trump administration.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 27, 2018, 10:55:48 AM
After the 5-4 decision to uphold the President's authority to ban any country he wants from US immigration, Twitter was teeming with people bemoaning the Constitution (again).

This time, they want to change it to have age limits for Supreme Court Justices.

Wouldn't that be violating the Constitution via age discrimination? Only young judges would be appointed.

Elections have consequences.  It's called WINNING!!   :geekdanc:
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 27, 2018, 10:56:42 AM
Liberal judges Ginsberg and Breyer have both said they will not retire during a Trump administration.

Those choices are not always within their control.

Sickness, death, changes in personal circumstances, etc.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: RSN172 on June 27, 2018, 11:14:29 AM
Those choices are not always within their control.

Sickness, death, changes in personal circumstances, etc.

That is true, but they won't retire of their own free will.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: drck1000 on June 27, 2018, 11:25:14 AM
Liberal judges Ginsberg and Breyer have both said they will not retire during a Trump administration.
I didn’t think Scalia was ready for retirement either...
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: macsak on June 27, 2018, 11:32:55 AM
I didn’t think Scalia was ready for retirement either...

scalia got "retired"...
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 27, 2018, 12:12:53 PM
The clock is always ticking ....

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Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 27, 2018, 04:10:28 PM
Schumer's speech today called for putting off the nomination until Nov elections are over.

This isn't a Presidential election year. His only objective is to use the issue to drive voter turnout.  Trump will still make the nomination no matter when.

Leftists are also calling for a "bi-partisan" nominee.  This, from the people calling "us" Nazis and telling us to shove civility where the Sun don't shine.

I don't think so.....

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Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: RSN172 on June 27, 2018, 07:35:32 PM
Thomas Hardiman would be a good choice.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: macsak on June 27, 2018, 07:38:04 PM
Thomas Hardiman would be a good choice.

I think he should nominate the youngest female conservative judge and see the left try and tear her apart
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: ren on June 27, 2018, 07:45:07 PM
Judge Judy
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: macsak on June 27, 2018, 07:49:11 PM
Judge Judy

10 minutes to Wapner. We're definitely locked in this box with no TV.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 27, 2018, 08:53:37 PM
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Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 27, 2018, 09:14:32 PM
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Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 28, 2018, 12:46:50 PM
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Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: changemyoil66 on June 28, 2018, 02:27:55 PM
Funny how snowflakes are acting like the world is going to end.  Insert "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" Meme
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: macsak on June 28, 2018, 04:21:37 PM
Funny how snowflakes are acting like the world is going to end.  Insert "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" Meme

because if Hillary won, she would consider "bipartisan" nominees and would wait until after the mid-term election to confirm
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 28, 2018, 04:39:12 PM
because if Hillary won, she would consider "bipartisan" nominees and would wait until after the mid-term election to confirm

Kennedy would have died of a heart attack a week after Scalia, avoiding all this turmoil.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 28, 2018, 07:08:49 PM
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Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 28, 2018, 09:14:02 PM
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Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 29, 2018, 03:07:09 PM
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Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 01, 2018, 12:47:13 PM
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Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: eyeeatingfish on July 03, 2018, 02:57:46 PM
I hope they end up picking a real constitutional conservative.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: eyeeatingfish on July 03, 2018, 03:00:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ozSfCp8.jpg)

Those were pretty stupid objections though. There was no legal or important reason that a new justice can't be picked just before an election.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 03, 2018, 05:25:49 PM
Those were pretty stupid objections though. There was no legal or important reason that a new justice can't be picked just before an election.

That doesn't stop 3/4 of Democrats on Twitter from posting the exact same words on every semi-relevant thread. And even more believe them to be true.

If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: eyeeatingfish on July 03, 2018, 08:24:10 PM
That doesn't stop 3/4 of Democrats on Twitter from posting the exact same words on every semi-relevant thread. And even more believe them to be true.

If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it.

So that makes them just as stupid as Republicans?
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 03, 2018, 11:27:10 PM
So that makes them just as stupid as Republicans?

Yeah, stupid enough to win the Presidency and both chambers of Congress.

November isn't looking much better for Democrats, either.

 :popcorn: 
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: macsak on July 04, 2018, 05:25:49 AM
I hope they end up picking a real constitutional conservative.

why would they not?
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: eyeeatingfish on July 04, 2018, 03:04:45 PM
why would they not?

There have been a rulings in which the conservative judges haven't been so conservative. Most recently in the decision about tracking you through your cell phone.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: macsak on July 04, 2018, 03:31:17 PM
There have been a rulings in which the conservative judges haven't been so conservative. Most recently in the decision about tracking you through your cell phone.
was it a trump nominee?
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: eyeeatingfish on July 04, 2018, 09:49:29 PM
was it a trump nominee?

Yes, Trump's pick voted against keeping your cell phone location data private without a warrant.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 04, 2018, 10:27:03 PM
Yes, Trump's pick voted against keeping your cell phone location data private without a warrant.

What is your definition of "location data?"
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: drck1000 on July 05, 2018, 07:54:55 AM
Those were pretty stupid objections though. There was no legal or important reason that a new justice can't be picked just before an election.
How about a prudent reason to give the incoming president the opportunity to shape the country as they see fit?  And keep in mind, HRC was thought to be leading comfortably at that time.  So why rush and try to push something through? 

The conservative judges should be thankful that HRC didn't win.  Saving money on additional life insurance premiums. 
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: RSN172 on July 05, 2018, 08:55:05 AM
My choice of Thomas Hardiman is not one of the three finalists.  Anyone know the 2A views of of three front runners, Brett Kavanaugh, Raymond Kethledge and Amy Coney Barrett?
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: eyeeatingfish on July 05, 2018, 01:56:25 PM
What is your definition of "location data?"

It's not my definition, the case was about location data derived from cell phone tower locations. Not GPS but it would still tell a general location of your cell phone 24/7 unless it was turned off.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: eyeeatingfish on July 05, 2018, 01:57:44 PM
How about a prudent reason to give the incoming president the opportunity to shape the country as they see fit?  And keep in mind, HRC was thought to be leading comfortably at that time.  So why rush and try to push something through? 

The conservative judges should be thankful that HRC didn't win.  Saving money on additional life insurance premiums.

There was no need to rush. stalling was exactly type of political bureaucracy we always complain about.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 05, 2018, 04:53:21 PM
It's not my definition, the case was about location data derived from cell phone tower locations. Not GPS but it would still tell a general location of your cell phone 24/7 unless it was turned off.

You obviously read my post on the other thread before posing this.

 :rofl:
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: eyeeatingfish on July 05, 2018, 06:06:59 PM
You obviously read my post on the other thread before posing this.

 :rofl:

Nope, saw it after I posted this.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: ren on July 05, 2018, 07:13:10 PM
I like my privacy. Can I keep my privacy?
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 05, 2018, 07:22:00 PM
I like my privacy. Can I keep my privacy?

Good luck with that!  With social media, cell phones and video cameras everywhere you go, keeping your business private is like planning to put your kids through college betting on hard 12.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: RSN172 on July 08, 2018, 11:10:24 AM
Looks like my choice of Thomas Hardiman might have a chance after all.  Mitch McConnell sent a memo to Trump to narrow his choice to either Hardiman or Kethledge if he wants a speedy Senate confirmation.   Kavanaugh has over a million pages on him to review and Barrett is anti Roe v Wade which two Republican Senators said they will not vote for her.  They cannot afford to lose a single vote in order to get confirmation.  Hardiman is extremely pro 2A and strongly believes in the right to carry.  Kethledge is also pro 2A, but not as much as Hardiman.  Kethledge is however an avid hunter.
Title: Re: SCOTUS JUSTICE KENNEDY RETIRES 07/31/2018
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 10, 2018, 04:25:41 PM
It's hilarious how people change their opinions. 

Well, really more like rationalizations than opinions.  Whatever it takes to help them sleep at night.

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