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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: changemyoil66 on July 16, 2018, 08:49:59 AM
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There was nothing on TV last night so I streamed Amazon Prime. It's an interesting concept.
What would have happened if we lost WWII?
Basically good by Bill of Rights. But the author did do their homework for things that should/didn't happen.
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-Empire of Japan took over west coast
-3rd Reich took over mid/east coast
-Executions/torture for going against the government (Japs & Nazis).
-No due proccess
-Japs not as technology advanced vs. Nazis. General Douglas McArthur never sent our top scientist over to Japan to help them rebuild because we lost.
-Younger generations doesn't know what a "free America" was like, only heard stories from parents
-Eventual war between Japs & Nazis for total control of N. America
-Hitler still alive, but Goebl and Himmler waiting for him to die to take control
Only on 4th episode.
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I'm a fan, patiently waiting for season 3.
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I'm a fan, patiently waiting for season 3.
Holy crap, didn't know there was more than 1 season. AWESOME!!!
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I'm a fan, patiently waiting for season 3.
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I'm a fan, patiently waiting for season 3.
Not sure what’s taking so long.
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Watching it niao! based on your reviews :thumbsup:
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Only problem is the gerbel wheels are spinning while watching. Like how iraqis feel when were there, or a-stan.
Told the wife, im a jap so if this were real, id prob be alright. Shes taiwanese so would be screwed.
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Only problem is the gerbel wheels are spinning while watching. Like how iraqis feel when were there, or a-stan.
Told the wife, im a jap so if this were real, id prob be alright. Shes taiwanese so would be screwed.
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In reality, even if the USA lost the war, the USA is too big in land area and population to be occupied by another country or countries. Then we also have the millions of guns and billions of rounds of ammo in the hands of civilians.
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In reality, even if the USA lost the war, the USA is too big in land area and population to be occupied by another country or countries. Then we also have the millions of guns and billions of rounds of ammo in the hands of civilians.
In the world of "The Man in the High Tower" the Nazi's won the technology race and nuked Washington, obliterating the US's command structure. If I'm not mistaken they continued nuking the US until the we surrendered, just like we did with Japan. Why argue the details when you can just enjoy a great show ;-). It's not simply a "If the Nazi's and Japan won" scenario, there's also some quirky mystical stuff going on.
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I doubt they could've held the US and the world for long. They would've been stretched too thin by occupying most of the world. Supply lines, manpower, resources, etc. If they ruled with an iron fist and put everyone in poverty then the world would rebel.
Large empires like this don't last long in history.
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In the world of "The Man in the High Tower" the Nazi's won the technology race and nuked Washington, obliterating the US's command structure. If I'm not mistaken they continued nuking the US until the we surrendered, just like we did with Japan. Why argue the details when you can just enjoy a great show ;-). It's not simply a "If the Nazi's and Japan won" scenario, there's also some quirky mystical stuff going on.
I just got to season 2 and watched that episode last night. Good thing I didn't go on 2a prior to. Spoiler.
The "films" are kind of ruining it for me because they don't got the tech to make them look so real. But the trade ministers meditation makes way more sense compared to the films.
Actually met Tagawa once. And asked him how he got started. He said he was a henchman in Big Trouble in Little China. There was a scene where all the henchmen were all smiling. The director yelled cut and said "you jerks need to stop smiling, you're god damn bad guys". Then he pointed to Tagawa and said " you all need to look like him". He wasn't smiling at all (mean looking). That's how he got noticed and everything took off from there.
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The Man in the High CASTLE, for folks that might want to look up the book or show. :shaka:
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The Man in the High CASTLE, for folks that might want to look up the book or show. :shaka:
lol just noticed it.... just went along with the title of the thread lololol
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Fixed. New to the show and sort of forgot the title. Just finished season II. Can't wait for season 3.
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I like it. Terrible but interesting concept that I'm VERY glad did not happen. Only thing bothering me is that it's starting to get a little "weird." Am I right? But yes, very excited to see more of it!
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Stopped watching through season 1. Do we ever get to find out the origin of the reel film? I couldn't figure out what the point of the show was so lost interest. PKD stories are usually about not knowing what is real or fake like Total Recall and Minority Report.
Here's an interesting article from when the series first started.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/25/nazi-inspired-ads-for-the-man-in-the-high-castle-pulled-from-new-york-subway
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The films are not really a main point to the story, until the final episode of season 2. Then it becomes useful. Dont want to spoil it.
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I’ll skip to the final episode. Thanks.
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https://youtu.be/E6haXll5wFc (https://youtu.be/E6haXll5wFc)
Achtung Oberfurher fans! October 5th - season 3 premier!
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China took over? Flag of chicken feet at the end.
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Season 3 is out ;-)
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
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I just realized there is no mention of Italy in the movie....
I blazed through the first two seasons but haven't started the 3rd yet. The series took a weird supernatural type turn though that I don't know if I feel works well or not yet.
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I just realized there is no mention of Italy in the movie....
I blazed through the first two seasons but haven't started the 3rd yet. The series took a weird supernatural type turn though that I don't know if I feel works well or not yet.
Thats what i was thinking.
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I just realized there is no mention of Italy in the movie....
I blazed through the first two seasons but haven't started the 3rd yet. The series took a weird supernatural type turn though that I don't know if I feel works well or not yet.
Perhaps there's no mention of Italy because in their world Hitler wasn't a strategical moron and left them to deal with their own shit instead of diverting forces. Hitlers blunders were numerous during the war.
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Perhaps there's no mention of Italy because in their world Hitler wasn't a strategical moron and left them to deal with their own shit instead of diverting forces. Hitlers blunders were numerous during the war.
I am quite amazed he got things done. So many absolutely stupid military decisions Hitler made... Maybe half genius half idiot?
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If you guys lost, i'd be japanese %100 they tried to get us in darwin
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I am quite amazed he got things done. So many absolutely stupid military decisions Hitler made... Maybe half genius half idiot?
He had the Spear of Destiny.
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Have plenty of time to occupy myself while recovering from surgery, so watched season 1. It was interesting and got better as the season went on. Kinda of had the feel of The Americans combined with Lost. Lots of pertinent examples and lessons of “what if’s” things are taken for granted on many levels. But also lots of :facepalm: level character drama like in The Walking Dead.
Will likely watch Season 2 and then go back into the earlier posts in this thread.
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Have plenty of time to occupy myself while recovering from surgery, so watched season 1. It was interesting and got better as the season went on. Kinda of had the feel of The Americans combined with Lost. Lots of pertinent examples and lessons of “what if’s” things are taken for granted on many levels. But also lots of :facepalm: level character drama like in The Walking Dead.
Will likely watch Season 2 and then go back into the earlier posts in this thread.
Finally went through with gender reassignment? Grats girl! Seriously if you need anything let me know. Also, watch Norsemen, unless laughing hurts.
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He had the Spear of Destiny.
Maybe in this world, Indiana Jones failed to prevent the Nazis from getting the Arc of the Covenant!
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Maybe in this world, Indiana Jones failed to prevent the Nazis from getting the Arc of the Covenant!
Not really, if Indy was there or not, the results would have been the same.
Nazi's had the medallion anyways because Indy wouldn't have been there to stop them. So with the medallion, they would have been digging in the right spot. Got the arc and all died anyways.
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Finally went through with gender reassignment? Grats girl! Seriously if you need anything let me know. Also, watch Norsemen, unless laughing hurts.
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Thanks! Got this girlfriend.
Season 2 pau. Liked it more than season 1. Still a very much Americans and Lost. Still also lots of frustrating drama. Having recently watched a lot of history of WWII and Hitler both helps as one can appreciate the “alternate realities”.
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Also watch Go For Broke about the recruitment of the 442nd and is playing at Dole theaters until Friday. Its people like them that sacrificed their lives fighting the Germans so we can live today. Slow, but very good movie.
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Finished Season 3. Went way more the way of Lost with still The Americans sort of espionage stuff. Liked Season 2 better, it Season 3 was entertaining. There was some pretty deep shit to wade through in their world.
SPOILERS Below
I like how they incorporated a good amount twists in history. Like George Lincoln Rockwell and J. Edgar Hoover. Enjoyed that plot progression.
Juliana is a frustrating idealist protagonist. Can’t shake the Office Space from Abendsen. Haha. Kept wanting him to ask for his stapler after he was captured.
Lots of “things that’s make you go hmm” stuff in there as well. Still lots of to explain. I’d want to know more about Smith’s rise from a US Army LT to where he is. Maybe they covered it, but may have missed it.
Figured the film and parallel worlds stuff would get deeper and weirder with Ridley Scott having a hand in things.
Having recently watched a bunch of stuff on WWII and Hitler, it helped realize many of the what if’s. Also recognition of key players. I have been interested in Rommel and his name made it into the show. Enjoyed that.
Yeah, I didn’t get too caught up in the realistic what if parts. I did see that the Reich has all of Africa. When Heusmann was going over their plans for attack, I notices the maps. That said, they did seem to spend quite a bit of time on fleshing out back stories.
Of course noticed the guns. And many of the Resisitance folks are damn super shooters. When Juliana and the other lady was shooting cans with pistols at around 50 yards! :o
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Perhaps there's no mention of Italy because in their world Hitler wasn't a strategical moron and left them to deal with their own shit instead of diverting forces. Hitlers blunders were numerous during the war.
Blunders as well as not letting his military geniuses around him lead. Also Hiltler’s health problems. Now that I think about it, what happened with Stalin?
Focus was on North America and Berlin. It was interesting that SF seemed like a slummy shithole and NY and Berlin were all high society. Damn Yakuza that’s why...
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I doubt they could've held the US and the world for long. They would've been stretched too thin by occupying most of the world. Supply lines, manpower, resources, etc. If they ruled with an iron fist and put everyone in poverty then the world would rebel.
Large empires like this don't last long in history.
Who’s to say they didn’t already have key figures in place to take over control of the US infrastructure. That seems like what happened in the story. Key US folks still in positions of power, but effectively controlled by Nazis.
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Watching season 3 now.
Wonder if hawaii would have gone to the reich or japs due to its location and PH.
Noticed japs still using ww2 era guns which would make sense and seen mp5s by the nazis. I was wondering when HK would make its appearance #heads.
Season 3 getting a little more sci-fi. But thats also true. Nazis did a lot of this type of r & d. Look up "nazi bell".
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Finished Season 3. Went way more the way of Lost with still The Americans sort of espionage stuff. Liked Season 2 better, it Season 3 was entertaining. There was some pretty deep shit to wade through in their world.
SPOILERS Below
I like how they incorporated a good amount twists in history. Like George Lincoln Rockwell and J. Edgar Hoover. Enjoyed that plot progression.
Juliana is a frustrating idealist protagonist. Can’t shake the Office Space from Abendsen. Haha. Kept wanting him to ask for his stapler after he was captured.
Lots of “things that’s make you go hmm” stuff in there as well. Still lots of to explain. I’d want to know more about Smith’s rise from a US Army LT to where he is. Maybe they covered it, but may have missed it.
Figured the film and parallel worlds stuff would get deeper and weirder with Ridley Scott having a hand in things.
Having recently watched a bunch of stuff on WWII and Hitler, it helped realize many of the what if’s. Also recognition of key players. I have been interested in Rommel and his name made it into the show. Enjoyed that.
Yeah, I didn’t get too caught up in the realistic what if parts. I did see that the Reich has all of Africa. When Heusmann was going over their plans for attack, I notices the maps. That said, they did seem to spend quite a bit of time on fleshing out back stories.
Of course noticed the guns. And many of the Resisitance folks are damn super shooters. When Juliana and the other lady was shooting cans with pistols at around 50 yards! :o
Now ive seen the beer can part and made fun of the wife and her flintch. Also reminded me of rambo 2 where the vc guy shooting at rambo on the rocks and he haf his bow.
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Season 4 (and last for Amazon) coming out on 15 Nov 2019 :geekdanc:
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Season 4 is coming, and I hear the Beach Boys...
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Season 4 (final season) is out.
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I'll watch it tonight. Thanks for the heads up. Been busy with COD and Bones. And now Disney +. If you got Verizon unlimited data, you get it free for 1 year.
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I thought that the season would be like 1 new episode released per week. So I decided to start last night and to my surprises, all episodes were on Prime. Didn't sleep till 3am.
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Nice to see the evolution of firearms. Seen MP5s and AK's. And it would make sense no M16's due to Stoner not being around to invent it.
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Just finished season 4 and then ending was disappointing. Well more like it could have been done better.
Smith should have been able to teleport to the other world so he can be with his son. Then the resistance blows up the portal. Since Smith is MIA/KIA, the new Reich Marshall takes over and orders the bombers away.
In the alternate world, his son dies during training and he is left with his wife and now can't see his daughters because they're not in the alternate world. So he is stuck in that alternate world.
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Rewatching on Amazon.
Noticed some things.
1) A KGB agent in the 80's did an interview on how to change a countries thoughts from within. Basically, get this done, and it will take a generation to fix because no matter how much facts/logic you present, they won't accept it. See TDS, pro illegal aliens, etc.. examples. (this is a real interview). So, watching the show again, there are children who were born into the Nazi culture. Then you have the adults who even fought in the war accept and even embrase it. The creator of the show did a good job to show this.
2) There are only a few scenes with TV/comics. Juliana's mom is watching Sumo on TV. I guess baseball didn't become popular yet, or will ever. I mean, football or basketball could have been used, but it was sumo. Another scene where Franks coworkers dad was reading manga. No Superman comic book or Spiderman or Ziggy.
3) No 2A, especially in the Jap controlled territories. Early on, Frank had to make a gun and find bullets for it. Only Japs are allowed to buy bullets. Read deeper into what is being shown and 1 thing a conquering country must do is to take weapons away, so the people cannot fight.
4) Zero rights like due process.
So, whether the creator intentionally did these or not, it does add to the show if you know what's up.