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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: changemyoil66 on July 23, 2018, 02:27:30 PM

Title: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: changemyoil66 on July 23, 2018, 02:27:30 PM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/police-id-danforth-shooter-1.4757566

Didn't want to speculate.  Should as Treudeou how he got a gun.

I wonder if he was a local or immigrant. 
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: ren on July 23, 2018, 03:56:18 PM
No. He was mentally ill. You only referenced that he was Muslim because you are a racist, Islamaphobe, xenomorphic, germaphobe, Nazi, Imperialist, gun-loving, keep-your-insurance, God-fearing, .....umm did I forget something?
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: macsak on July 23, 2018, 04:03:49 PM
did I forget something?

bitter clinger
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: K30l4 on July 23, 2018, 04:06:00 PM
No. He was mentally ill. You only referenced that he was Muslim because you are a racist, Islamaphobe, xenomorphic, germaphobe, Nazi, Imperialist, gun-loving, keep-your-insurance, God-fearing, .....umm did I forget something?
That pretty much sums it up.

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Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: oldfart on July 23, 2018, 05:03:25 PM
Hmmmm
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Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: eyeeatingfish on July 23, 2018, 05:40:56 PM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/police-id-danforth-shooter-1.4757566

Didn't want to speculate.  Should as Treudeou how he got a gun.

I wonder if he was a local or immigrant.

Did a search of the article and couldn't find the words muslim, islam, religion, or allah akbar.

Did you post the wrong link?
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: ren on July 23, 2018, 07:46:00 PM
Did a search of the article and couldn't find the words muslim, islam, religion, or allah akbar.

Did you post the wrong link?


awww  shiite
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: mrgaf on July 23, 2018, 07:48:56 PM
No. He was mentally ill. You only referenced that he was Muslim because you are a racist, Islamaphobe, xenomorphic, germaphobe, Nazi, Imperialist, gun-loving, keep-your-insurance, God-fearing, .....umm did I forget something?

And the problem with that is? 🤪
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: mrgaf on July 23, 2018, 07:50:12 PM

awww  shiite

Hahaha :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: macsak on July 23, 2018, 07:53:26 PM

awww  shiite

heads
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: eyeeatingfish on July 23, 2018, 08:15:37 PM

awww  shiite

Well normally if someone makes a claim and provides a link you would expect there to be some mention of it in the link.
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 23, 2018, 10:07:59 PM
Well normally if someone makes a claim and provides a link you would expect there to be some mention of it in the link.

When my girls were old enough to do things on their own without help, I stopped having to spoon-feed them.

Any idea when you might get to that point?
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: hvybarrels on July 24, 2018, 09:15:28 AM
Islam is just as stupid and dangerous as any other religion

Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: hvybarrels on July 24, 2018, 09:20:57 AM
If your last name is McCormick or O'Donnell can I safely assume you are a raging alcoholic? If your last name is Takahashi or Watanabe can I safely assume you have the personality of a suicidal android? If your last name is Pacheco or DeSilva can I safely assume that you rode the short bus to school and shouldn't be trusted around sharp or delicate objects?

Where's the evidence that he's Muslim or that his religion had anything to do with the shooting? His family members immediately went on record to let everyone know they were horrified by his actions. Sounds like he suffered from severe mental illness and had absolutely zero support for his crimes.

One would hope that more people are becoming aware that the whole point of anti-Muslim propaganda is to get people with no education who never traveled more than 50 miles from home to fly halfway across the world and kill people who are no threat to them so that weapons manufacturers and energy companies can profit.

In other words it's your tax dollars hard at work fighting imaginary threats and making rich people richer while the infrastructure we all depend on continues to crumble
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: changemyoil66 on July 24, 2018, 09:34:15 AM
New intel from the PD.

He was on their watch list for "supporting" ISIL online. 
1 media outlet mentioned his now deleted FB page had him wearing tactical gear and the caption was "reincarnated ISIS fighter"
Canada was looking into his past when he lived in Afghanistan and Palestine
The media released his age within 1 hour of the shooting, but not his name.  They knew his name because they had to figure out his age.  When they did release his name (next day), his parents at the same time had a statement that seemed very prepared compared to other mass shooters family statements within 1 day of the attacks.

Know that Canada is pro open boarders so this would harm them.
Canada has strict gun laws so they don't want to blame that
Canada has universal health care
So of all, saying he was "mentally ill" is the best out for them.
This event will get burried

I did jump to conclusions, but so far many attacks done by middle eastern names have been in the name of Islam.  Are all Muslims terrorist, no.  There are many good people of Islam, but it's the few that give them a bad rep.
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 24, 2018, 11:24:16 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/958p3XF.jpg)

Quote
TORONTO -- Canadian investigators were digging Tuesday into the life of the 29-year-old man who opened fire on
restaurants and cafes in a popular Toronto neighborhood, seeking to explain what prompted the rampage that killed
a 10-year-old girl and a young woman and wounded 13 others. Investigators in Canada have indications that Faisal
Hussain visited Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) websites and may have expressed support for the terrorist group,
a law enforcement source told CBS News senior investigative producer Pat Milton.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/faisal-hussain-toronto-shooting-rampage-new-details-emerge-about-gunman-2018-07-24/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=54686775
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: ren on July 24, 2018, 11:36:19 AM
Schnapples
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: sethaddison on July 24, 2018, 07:44:29 PM
Dang, a guy with a long history of mental illness in Canada with free universal health care at his disposal....

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Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 24, 2018, 07:55:19 PM
Dang, a guy with a long history of mental illness in Canada with free universal health care at his disposal....

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The neighbors are saying they never saw any signs he had mental illness. Only the family's word for that so far.  If they cannot offer documentation of a "long history of mental health" (which implies he'd been treated), then it may be just the family playing the victim card to excuse his evil, violent murders.

Too soon to know how much truth & cover-up will hit the news.
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: eyeeatingfish on July 25, 2018, 11:34:48 AM
When my girls were old enough to do things on their own without help, I stopped having to spoon-feed them.

Any idea when you might get to that point?

Not my job to prove other people's arguments. I hope someone taught your girls to be able to support an argument instead of just claiming something.
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 25, 2018, 11:45:59 AM
Not my job to prove other people's arguments. I hope someone taught your girls to be able to support an argument instead of just claiming something.

Do you have anything to support that claim? 
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: eyeeatingfish on July 25, 2018, 11:47:35 AM
New intel from the PD.

I did jump to conclusions, but so far many attacks done by middle eastern names have been in the name of Islam.  Are all Muslims terrorist, no.  There are many good people of Islam, but it's the few that give them a bad rep.

Thanks for addressing this. I know people will naturally put two things together when they see an Arabic name and that he killed people but I think it important to not assume an association that might not be true. Of course it is a valid question to ask whether he was a Muslim and if this is ISIS related but we run risks when we assume religious terrorism.

I understand why authorities don't always declare terrorism immediately, they have to weigh a public safety concern against people committing mob justice or hate crimes. Authorities want to get more information for an accurate picture before releasing a conclusion.
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: eyeeatingfish on July 25, 2018, 11:50:16 AM
Do you have anything to support that claim?

I figured this was pretty much a debate 101 type of thing but sure, we'll start from the basics for you.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 25, 2018, 12:47:14 PM
I figured this was pretty much a debate 101 type of thing but sure, we'll start from the basics for you.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

No comment needed.    :geekdanc:

(https://i.imgur.com/CuQP9RU.jpg)
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: changemyoil66 on July 25, 2018, 12:52:51 PM
Thanks for addressing this. I know people will naturally put two things together when they see an Arabic name and that he killed people but I think it important to not assume an association that might not be true. Of course it is a valid question to ask whether he was a Muslim and if this is ISIS related but we run risks when we assume religious terrorism.

I understand why authorities don't always declare terrorism immediately, they have to weigh a public safety concern against people committing mob justice or hate crimes. Authorities want to get more information for an accurate picture before releasing a conclusion.

At first it started as a joke (hence the title), but then the thread got all serious.

I apologize for the confusion.  I'll put the word "joking" next time.
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: eyeeatingfish on July 25, 2018, 04:32:32 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

No comment needed.    :geekdanc:



Link fixed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy))
Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: drck1000 on July 26, 2018, 07:15:05 AM
You guys are really cute.  ;D

Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: changemyoil66 on July 26, 2018, 05:54:24 PM
Isis claimed responability. Kind of fishy they waited so long.

Toronto voting to ban handguns and ammo.



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Title: Re: Annndddd heeeee'sssss aaaaaa MMMMUUSSSLLL...
Post by: changemyoil66 on July 29, 2018, 09:04:35 PM
Unconfirmed (toronto paper), police received credible intel that a vehicle was going to be used to ram people. So they set up larger vehicles to prevent this. Left the public in the dark.

Instead, active shooter.

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