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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Prime Sports on August 15, 2018, 08:11:13 AM
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Stop by Prime Sports on September 1st 2018 12:00 pm- 3:00 pm and apply for your Arizona Concealed Carried Weapons permit in our 1 stop application drive. The AZ #ccw permit is recognized by 37 states at this time. We will have the official applications available FREE to fill out, just bring your government issued photo I.D.
We will have a license and bonded official finger print services in the shop that day (print fee is $40.) Do not trust giving your prints to a non FBI recognized print service.
No hidden costs on this 1 stop shop drive. All you need to pay is the finger print cost of $40 and the Arizona Permit application fee of $60. No special class is required, just need hunters ed or your Hawaii Pistol Safety Class to apply.
*Hawaii is a may issue state at this time for CCW and does not recognize other state carry permits.
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Types of payment allowed?
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The handgun affidavit or HI Hunter's Ed certificate are not the only acceptable forms of documentation AZ accepts for the training requirement.
(https://i.imgur.com/6LsjQFw.jpg)
https://www.azleg.gov/viewdocument/?docName=http://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/03112.htm
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Types of payment allowed?
CAN I PAY MY APPLICATION FEE WITH A PERSONAL CHECK?
No. Acceptable forms of payment include money order, certified or cashier's check made payable to AZ DPS.
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Types of payment allowed?
Thanks for the question
The finger print is $40 cash
The AZ application is $60 cashiers/ certified check or money order payable to Arizona Department of public safety
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CAN I PAY MY APPLICATION FEE WITH A PERSONAL CHECK?
No. Acceptable forms of payment include money order, certified or cashier's check made payable to AZ DPS.
Thank you for your help with the clarification details
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Applied for mine in December, was back to me in January. Less than 4 weeks. Very fast turn-around and this was when the reciprocity bills were going through Congress.
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how long do AZ ccw permits last? cost to renew?
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how long do AZ ccw permits last? cost to renew?
I. On issuance, a permit is valid for five years, except a permit that is held by a member of the United States armed forces,
including a member of the Arizona national guard or a member of the reserves of any military establishment of the United
States, who is on federal active duty and who is deployed overseas shall be extended until ninety days after the end of the
member's overseas deployment.
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/03112.htm
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https://www.azdps.gov/services/public/cwp
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i would if i could but i cant.
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i would if i could but i cant.
If I could, I would, but I can't cause I already got one.
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If I could, I would, but I can't cause I already got one.
AZ likes to violate the 14th amendment.
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AZ likes to violate the 14th amendment.
Apply for citizenship.
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Apply for citizenship.
Ditto!
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Apply for citizenship.
Ditto!
So ignore the violation of the constitution and make a change to myself ??
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So ignore the violation of the constitution and make a change to myself ??
Yes. The constitution is for Americans and I want you to be an American. America needs more people like you.
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Yes. The constitution is for Americans and I want you to be an American. America needs more people like you.
The constitution is for America and equal protection should be given to all legally within her borders. We can not and should not ignore the violations no matter how small or how few they effect.
I could spend the $800 and get my citizenship, but that’s a fair amount of money to be spending and I don’t think I have reached that part of my journey yet.
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What if dick heller just moved out of DC instead of going all the way to SCOTUS to affirm the individual right to bear arms ?
What if Young decided to leave Hawaii instead of fighting to get a carry permit ?
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Reminder this Saturday.
They will have the official applications available FREE to fill out, just bring your government issued photo I.D.
All you need to pay is the finger print cost of $40 and the Arizona Permit application fee of $60.
No special class is required, just need hunters ed or your Hawaii Pistol Safety Class to apply.
The finger print is $40 cash
The AZ application is $60 cashiers/ certified check or money order payable to Arizona Department of public safety
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Well that was a colossal waste of time. 😑
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Well that was a colossal waste of time. 😑
We need more details
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Well that was a colossal waste of time. 😑
Whats the problem? Pretty simple procedure.
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Well that was a colossal waste of time. 😑
What did you forget to bring? :geekdanc:
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I waited almost 3 hrs and I didn't even make it to the door. :wacko: And even if I made it to the door there was another line that wrapped around the inside of the store.
I pulled in around 1:40 pm if I really wanted to get my fingerprinting done that day I would have had to wait until 6:00 pm.
They brought another person to do the fingerprinting but the process was extremely slow and there were more people there than they thought would come I'm assuming.
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I waited almost 3 hrs and I didn't even make it to the door. :wacko: And even if I made it to the door there was another line that wrapped around the inside of the store.
I pulled in around 1:40 pm if I really wanted to get my fingerprinting done that day I would have had to wait until 6:00 pm.
They brought another person to do the fingerprinting but the process was extremely slow and there were more people there than they thought would come I'm assuming.
Sounds like there was enough interest to warrant another drive.
Maybe next time they'll have a better idea of the time needed, and they can stop people from getting in line once they have the max? Just a thought.
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Just out of curiosity, does anyone know or have a guess at how many people got fully processed and how many more were turned away or left because the wait was too long? Did this get any media coverage? Should have.
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Maybe if there is a next time, get sign up list online. Then let them know what time to show up.
I agree there should have had media coverage. Blown opportunity to show how many people are interested in legally carrying.
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Hello guys we had a total of 54 people process that day. I am sorry to all that waited in line and wasnt able to process that day. I didnt expected that much turn out when we started this drive. It's my fualt for not planning it better but we had 17 walk in that day.
So going on forth we will have another drive but this time we will have a time slot listed out for you and you would have to come in prepay for a slot.
Thank you for your support..
Henry
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we wasnt trying to do PR...we wasnt trying to make a stand or point. We just want to process people for ccw and we seen to many people get rip off for the same ccw. Which is free and dont need a class. So to those people charging to teach ccw and giving out az ccw shame on you guys.
Maybe if there is a next time, get sign up list online. Then let them know what time to show up.
I agree there should have had media coverage. Blown opportunity to show how many people are interested in legally carrying.
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Hello guys we had a total of 54 people process that day. I am sorry to all that waited in line and wasnt able to process that day. I didnt expected that much turn out when we started this drive. It's my fualt for not planning it better but we had 17 walk in that day.
So going on forth we will have another drive but this time we will have a time slot listed out for you and you would have to come in prepay for a slot.
Thank you for your support..
Henry
Next time buffet? :shaka:
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we wasnt trying to do PR...we wasnt trying to make a stand or point. We just want to process people for ccw and we seen to many people get rip of for the same ccw. Which is free and dont need a class. So to those people charging to teach ccw and giving out az ccw shame on you guys.
Should put um on The Champ Show. OC16!!! :shaka:
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Good effort. Good to see lots of demand even though it didnt work out for many. Better than no demand.
These kinds of things should be applauded for people thinking outside of the box anx trying new things to benefit the community.
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Me and my wife were fortunate to get our fingerprinting portion done in the shop. Here's a suggestion, is it possible to utilize 1 of the conference rooms upstairs to conduct the screening of documentation and have an ACTUAL table to do the fingerprinting? While standing outside Prime Sports, neighboring businesses were concerned that their doors to their shops were being blocked due to the line that extended down the walkway. Customers had to maneuver thru the line to get thru to where they were going.
I would have to say in my honest opinion the ladies that were doing the fingerprinting could have done it better. Agencies that require fingerprinting cards done the old fashioned way with ink pads have strict standards on the way it is conducted. The print NEEDS to be in a BLOCK pattern, meaning that the finger(s) need to be "rolled" edge to edge on the ink pad then "rolled" edge to edge on the card. The ladies were lifting the ink pad to the finger(s), rolling the finger(s) and then using a white block "peel & stick" type method (rolling the finger) and pasting it to the fingerprint card. Looking at the result of doing that may cause most of the cards to be rejected by the investigating agency as the latent prints are NOT FULLY or PARTIALLY "blocked" as required.
There is an actual LATENT FINGERPRINTING KIT that is packaged in a "tool box" with everything you need to conduct the process.
I just hope that none of the prints that were taken yesterday are "REJECTED" and the application process goes smoothly. If there are ANY REJECTIONS WHATSOEVER, what is the FINANCIAL recourse of those patrons that "PAID" for the service?? Can the fingerprinting be done....FREE of charge due to the prints being REJECTED the first time and conducted in the right way?? or REFUND of money paid for the fingerprint service.
Any future events like this should be carefully planned and executed to prevent un-necessary confusion and extended wait times.
Assigning "times" to return to the shop won't resolve the issue, it won't help the wait-times. Because of the unforeseen numbers of those that participated yesterday were large, perhaps by utilizing the conference room upstairs , find out the capacity of the room and take that number, for instance....let's say the max capacity of the room is 50 personnel, minus out the personnel assisting with the service let's say 6, so 44 people can apply for the CCW for that given day. Use social media....FB, IG and other platforms to reach out and take 44 reservations that PREPAID and done. The conference room will provide a closed environment to the public, less distraction and interruption to neighboring businesses. It'll also provide a definite number of applicants that will be processed.
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Hello guys we had a total of 54 people process that day. I am sorry to all that waited in line and wasnt able to process that day. I didnt expected that much turn out when we started this drive. It's my fualt for not planning it better but we had 17 walk in that day.
So going on forth we will have another drive but this time we will have a time slot listed out for you and you would have to come in prepay for a slot.
Thank you for your support..
Henry
If you want people to prepay, why not have the applicant stop by the fingerprinting offices first? They can get printed, pay for that service, and then call Prime Sports to schedule a time to complete the application. That way you don't have to have everyone show up for a "drive". Just schedule a convenient time for the customer to meet at the store with his completed fingerprint card and other documents.
Unless there's a reason for your shop collecting the $40 for the fingerprinting fee, it makes more sense to segregate that part of the process so it's more flexible for everyone.
You could also do the "drive" for people who haven't had a chance to get prints done beforehand.
If you're not interested in the PR, then a drive really had little benefit other than assuring the fingerprinters are working the whole time.
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FYI
Prints are not required to be taken by "a license and bonded official finger print services".
https://www.azdps.gov/services/public/cwp (This same site offers the application form)
"Note: You must utilize the "Applicant" fingerprint cards provided by the Department.
Some police agencies provide fingerprinting services for a small fee (DPS does not). Call your local police agencies for inquiries. Regardless of who completes the fingerprinting process for you, the prints must be clear, distinct and classifiable. Do not place tape over the top of the prints!"
The "STANDARD' print card is the FBI BLUE FONT FD-258
Also be sure to check the "written agreement" of the other state if that state has a written agreement with AZ.
There are some states that will only accept the AZ concealed firearm permit so long as the permit holder is a resident of AZ, a resident of the reciprocating/recognizing state or a plethora of other rules.
Be sure to contact the respective authority within that state.
Other states may be, if you'll pardon the expression, 'liberal" with their reciprocating/recognizing of other state's agreement, written or not.
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Should put um on The Champ Show. OC16!!! :shaka:
why?
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ROCKY it may say that on the paper BUT would you trust your prints to anyone that is not bonded or license to do so?
Sheryl and Donna has been doing this for many many years i trust them when it come to finger printing.
FYI
Prints are not required to be taken by "a license and bonded official finger print services".
https://www.azdps.gov/services/public/cwp (This same site offers the application form)
"Note: You must utilize the "Applicant" fingerprint cards provided by the Department.
Some police agencies provide fingerprinting services for a small fee (DPS does not). Call your local police agencies for inquiries. Regardless of who completes the fingerprinting process for you, the prints must be clear, distinct and classifiable. Do not place tape over the top of the prints!"
The "STANDARD' print card is the FBI BLUE FONT FD-258
Also be sure to check the "written agreement" of the other state if that state has a written agreement with AZ.
There are some states that will only accept the AZ concealed firearm permit so long as the permit holder is a resident of AZ, a resident of the reciprocating/recognizing state or a plethora of other rules.
Be sure to contact the respective authority within that state.
Other states may be, if you'll pardon the expression, 'liberal" with their reciprocating/recognizing of other state's agreement, written or not.
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Yes very poorly managed, especially for those that walked in as there was no mention of a pre-payment (at least not in this thread) nor was there a mention of 2 forms of ID. I know you guys at least promised to see those that were still in line at the time. But I was NOT trying to wait 5-6 hours as I had to work later that night.
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@prime sports
Apparently No good deed goes unpunished.
Thanks for what you guys offered and did. :shaka:
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Sounds like there was way more of an enthusiastic response than was plannned for. It’s always difficult to anticipate these kinds of things and it’s good to hear that there is a plan for next time.
But come on even though it’s frustrating you have to see the positive side. Probably close to 100 people were prepared to show up for a ccw license. That means there are plenty more who were interested and couldn’t make it or didn’t know about it in time. That’s some political power waiting to be tapped right there,
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Sounds like there was way more of an enthusiastic response than was plannned for. It’s always difficult to anticipate these kinds of things and it’s good to hear that there is a plan for next time.
But come on even though it’s frustrating you have to see the positive side. Probably close to 100 people were prepared to show up for a ccw license. That means there are plenty more who were interested and couldn’t make it or didn’t know about it in time. That’s some political power waiting to be tapped right there,
Hold the next CCW drive at the state capitol. Give applicants a Pro-2A sign to hold while they wait in line.
Just thinking out loud .... :geekdanc:
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Hold the next CCW drive at the state capitol. Give applicants a Pro-2A sign to hold while they wait in line.
Just thinking out loud .... :geekdanc:
I bet you'll need to get a permit to do that... :shaka:
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I bet you'll need to get a permit to do that... :shaka:
Just ask Josh Green, he'll hook you up.
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Hold the next CCW drive at the state capitol. Give applicants a Pro-2A sign to hold while they wait in line.
Just thinking out loud .... :geekdanc:
That is a good idea and something I would consider later in the future. Wouldnt be able to charge for anything though so fingerprinters would have to do it for free.
To prep for it we'd need to give some staff at the capitol a pistol course beforehand. Could do it in 2020.
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Just ask Josh Green, he'll hook you up.
Yeah, our future governor (soon to be Lt. Governor) will be glad to help you get a permit to provide people with permits on state property... but the permit seeker will probably have to have a "mental health evaluation" by "a state-approved mental health worker" "within 90 days prior to" seeking the permit... just like in the bill he introduced two sessions ago for people seeking a "permit to acquire" a handgun or "long gun permit". [Insert your own string of preferred profanities here.]
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All the more reason to convert the ccw enthusiasm into something meaningful
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Sounds like there was way more of an enthusiastic response than was planned for. It’s always difficult to anticipate these kinds of things and it’s good to hear that there is a plan for next time.
But come on even though it’s frustrating you have to see the positive side. Probably close to 100 people were prepared to show up for a ccw license. That means there are plenty more who were interested and couldn’t make it or didn’t know about it in time. That’s some political power waiting to be tapped right there,
Would have been nice to see that kind of enthusiasm when we tried to get all to submit a letter/application to HPD for a HI CCW a few years ago to make a statement.
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Would have been nice to see that kind of enthusiasm when we tried to get all to submit a letter/application to HPD for a HI CCW a few years ago to make a statement.
I see a problem with marketing and education. Gotta make a good marketing program through different methods, including talking to people one on one. Also educating people on the purpose, history, process etc. Something we can try again in the future. Plan well and do a big push at the end of 2019.
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ROCKY it may say that on the paper BUT would you trust your prints to anyone that is not bonded or license to do so?
Sheryl and Donna has been doing this for many many years i trust them when it come to finger printing.
Yes I do.
As a Utah CFP instructor, we've (Rockette) been doing our own prints for almost a year now for all of our participants.
We have had no problems or denials because of prints. ;)
I sincerely doubt that every Hawaii LEO that books and prints a suspect is a "Bona fide" print taker. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I agree that there is some skill involved and that like most other skills comes with practice, but I think the onus lies more upon the print subject than print taker.
The skill of the print taker is to get the subject to "give in" and let them do the job, kind of like relaxing and trusting your chiropractor. :shake:
If the print cards don't meet the standards, you simply do them again.
$0.40, No biggie
I cannot legally provide the Utah BCI Finger print hand out but please find the DOJ Information Services "Capturing Legible Fingerprints" instructions attached below.
We include Guaranteed fingerprint services with our class and we also provide a copy of the above document along with a plethora of additional information including Utah CFP, Utah Law, Hawaii Use of Force Law as well as the application for the AZ CCW.
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Would have been nice to see that kind of enthusiasm when we tried to get all to submit a letter/application to HPD for a HI CCW a few years ago to make a statement.
The one small difference is that in the case of Arizona there is a nearly 100% chance that you will receive your permit/license, whereas in the case of Hawaii there was/is an absolute 100% chance that you will NOT receive your license.
Add in the fact that even if 100, or 500, or 10,000 people applied and were denied, it wouldn't make one iota of difference at the police departments or the legislature or the AG's office. It'd be a "talking point" for us, and we see how meaningful those are in Hawaii.
But I do stuff anyway, just because I'm ornery and want to see the bored and indifferent looks and smirks on the faces of my public servants as I submit my comments to them, even if it won't change a damn single thing.
See y'all Wednesday morning at the Hawaii County Council meeting.
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all you guys that charge for one simple thing like this all mad cuz PrimeSports do em for free!!! :shaka: :thumbsup: :rofl:
No matter anyways cuz we no can CCW here in Hawaii. Utah, AZ