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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: zippz on September 24, 2018, 04:54:55 PM
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Please take a look at the new group a few of us founded, the HAWAII FIREARMS COALITION. It's a non-profit 501c4 group dedicated to lobbying for gun rights in Hawaii, grassroots activism, and judicial action.
We have recently funded an amicus brief (research paper written by an attorney) to support the Young v Hawaii case for open carry in Hawaii. We have many things planned for the future to educate and rally the firearms community. This isn't an organization you pay to join and sit back. YOU are responsible for taking action as a member to protect gun rights.
We'll have classes to help improve activism, support those that want leading gun rights projects, rallys, lobbying legislators, and other projects. We seek to help the many facets of the gun community - self defense, hunting, range development, shooting sports, etc.
Visit us at the HHAA Great Guns show this weekend, we're by the cowboys in the back. Blaisdell Center, Sept 29-30 10am to 5pm.
Apply for memberships at:
www.hifico.org
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What do these guys have in common ?
Timothy knight,
Dick Heller,
David hardy
Burton Richardson
Alan Beck
Kristie Tertel
These are all top tier 2nd amendment people. They have and are preforming an outstanding service to the community.
Also everyone of the. Is a member of the Hawaii Firearm coalition and everyone of them is helping to build this organization and create the best foundation for us to grow
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A donor from the Hawaii Firearms Coalition is matching donations to the Friends of the NRA during the gun show weekend, up to $5,000 in total for the weekend.
Please stop by the FNRA table, the kids with buckets, and make a donation. The money supports the junior air rifle teams in Hawaii who are the next generation of gun owners.
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As a new organization I'm sure you folks have a lot on your plate. Maybe down the road you can consider if it's worthwhile to become a CMP affiliated organization. This might help in attracting new members.
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As a new organization I'm sure you folks have a lot on your plate. Maybe down the road you can consider if it's worthwhile to become a CMP affiliated organization. This might help in attracting new members.
We'll look at affiliations early next year and see which ones best match our organization. CMP is a shooting organization, not lobbying or activism related so may not be a good fit for our organization. We'll take a look at it when the time comes.
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Is there another way to pay besides Square since they are anti-gun now and just cut off all the gun dealers using them? I'd rather they not get their cut.
Also, Is there an option for no T shirt? I'd just like the full payment to go to fund you guys.
Thanks for getting this up and going
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Is there another way to pay besides Square since they are anti-gun now and just cut off all the gun dealers using them? I'd rather they not get their cut.
Also, Is there an option for no T shirt? I'd just like the full payment to go to fund you guys.
Thanks for getting this up and going
With online processors pretty much all of them are owned by anti gun groups. The reason we chose to use square was done based on fees and ease of use for customers.
If you don’t want a t-shirt but still any that level of membership just put it in the notes when you pay
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thanks, if you get a PO box for checks/cash or take something like bitcoin in the future it would be nice to pay without having to fund any of them.
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thanks, if you get a PO box for checks/cash or take something like bitcoin in the future it would be nice to pay without having to fund any of them.
We have a Pobox, I will add that as an option on the website
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For something else down the line, consider adding the charity to Amazon smile to get donations
https://org.amazon.com/
Not sure what the requirements are but Oregon Firearms Federation has generated a $3-4000 in donations that way.
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Aurite!
Signed up. Payment sent.
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For something else down the line, consider adding the charity to Amazon smile to get donations
https://org.amazon.com/
Not sure what the requirements are but Oregon Firearms Federation has generated a $3-4000 in donations that way.
I don't know if they really get money But I set GOA as mine.
for Amazon.
I will contact and see If I can switch to Hawaii firearms coalition.
I prefer to use paypal for online orders.
There is a way to bypass their anti-gun BS.
Direct pay. to an individual, you still get all the protections.
I have a 26.5 mm signal device and flares all paid through
paypal. You guys here would know that is a flare gun.
Work paypal into the website and you have a new outer island member.
I've had too many problems with Hawaiian purchases
that I had to cancel cards. That is usually a pain.
Never lost any money yet, but the hassle, is irritating.
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We'll take a look at the Amazon donations and others a bit later. Still focusing on getting basic organization functions up and a solid membership base right now.
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Visit the Hawaii Firearms Coalition table to sign our petition and apply for memberships. We're along the McKinley HS side wall by the cowboys.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180930/6187d83d3dcdf13e8a9c4010e2aaa44b.jpg)
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Celebrate our 1 month anniversary for a beer after work at the breseum today 5pm to 7pm. Www.brewseum.com
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Just for clarity what is HFC's position on open carry? Looks like Feds approve, local gov no.
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Just for clarity what is HFC's position on open carry? Looks like Feds approve, local gov no.
The right to bear arms does NOT stop within your home.
We have hired a lawyer to submit an amicus brief (a legal argument) against rehearing Young and to let the 3 judge panel's decision stand, Thus affirming the right to bear arms outside of the home.
I (one of the directors) also have a lawsuit against the state right now in the Federal court system that would legalize the possession of tasers and allow them to be carried outside of the home.
So we are PRO open carry.
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And we do not discriminate. Pro concealed carry too.
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Just joined!
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Just joined!
Welcome to the club! We need all the help we can get. One of our extended long term goals is to get 5,000 testimonies within 48 hours on a big bill. We got 500 in 3 weeks for the bump stocks, so we need 10x that in 1/10th the time.
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Welcome to the club! We need all the help we can get. One of our extended long term goals is to get 5,000 testimonies within 48 hours on a big bill. We got 500 in 3 weeks for the bump stocks, so we need 10x that in 1/10th the time.
Good goal. The unfortunate thing, for the foreseeable future anyway, is that you will only be attempting to get testimonies AGAINST "big bills" that attempt to further erode and steal the lawful exercise of our rights, because the bills that would restore the lawful exercise of our rights are never even given committee hearings for which testimony can be submitted. That will require a wholesale transformation of the Hawaii legislature (eliminate the Democrat/RINO supermajority). But we gotta start where we are. I applaud your efforts.
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Good goal. The unfortunate thing, for the foreseeable future anyway, is that you will only be attempting to get testimonies AGAINST "big bills" that attempt to further erode and steal the lawful exercise of our rights, because the bills that would restore the lawful exercise of our rights are never even given committee hearings for which testimony can be submitted. That will require a wholesale transformation of the Hawaii legislature (eliminate the Democrat/RINO supermajority). But we gotta start where we are. I applaud your efforts.
True, but like you mentioned we need to start somewhere. The sad part is for the bump stock bill, we had less than 500 testimonies. 500 out of thousands of gun owners out there. Maybe if we had 5,000+ then it may have given them a 2nd thought. Not really though, our law makers had already made up their minds.
Hopefully HIFICO will help gun owners change their attitudes. I even talked to a NRA instructor about the bump stock bill and he didn't submit any testimony. He had the defeated attitude.
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2 free tickets to the FNRA Dinner banquet on Nov 11th. Free for members who never attended before.
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I would like to sign the petition. Will be at the range def at the HDF shoot next sat.
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Sign the petition at one of our gun rights industry partners, Honolulu Firearms and Range - https://www.facebook.com/honolulufirearms/
Friendly crew at HFR. Gun and accessory sales, and 15 yard indoor shooting range in the middle of Honolulu.
More partners are lining up to help protect gun rights. Please support our partners.
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is there an online petition?
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is there an online petition?
Untill we find an affordable secure method of doing so, no
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https://www.change.org/about
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I prefer the handwritten petition and dont like the online ones.. Gets people out and gets the community working together. Can talk to people to get their input and build awareness. You dont get that with an online petition.
I tried change.org with the koko Head improvement petition. It leads to bad habbits and laziness, by the organizors and signers. Its a tool and has its place, just not now.
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The main point of the Hawaii Firearms Coalition is get people to be active. After all we are a grassroots activism group.
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Untill we find an affordable secure method of doing so, no
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I prefer the handwritten petition and dont like the online ones.. Gets people out and gets the community working together. Can talk to people to get their input and build awareness. You dont get that with an online petition.
I tried change.org with the koko Head improvement petition. It leads to bad habbits and laziness, by the organizors and signers. Its a tool and has its place, just not now.
A pdf online version hosted on google drive would be sufficient too. Then you can just post/email them the link, people can fill it out (by hand if that's what you want) and snail mail or email a scanned copy to you.
I do get what you're saying about getting people to be more active though. just a suggestion.
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A pdf online version hosted on google drive would be sufficient too. Then you can just post/email them the link, people can fill it out (by hand if that's what you want) and snail mail or email a scanned copy to you.
I do get what you're saying about getting people to be more active though. just a suggestion.
We have the form on the website for people to downaload and have friends and family etc.. fill out
http://hifico.org/petition-drive-2018/
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Prime Sports, another gun rights industry partner onboard and 2a petition signing location.
Great service from Henry. FFL transfers and special orders available. Check it out at Nimitz Business Center, ground floor.
www.primesportshawaii.com
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We have the form on the website for people to downaload and have friends and family etc.. fill out
http://hifico.org/petition-drive-2018/
Nice!
I admit I looked for it, but apparently didn't look hard enough. I will use that form.
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Just went to HFR and signed, but left my address blank. If you need it I can PM you. That place has high foot traffic from non-gun owners (range rentals) and I didn't feel ok with my address on paper.
But now that I see you're at Prime, I would feel fine with putting my addy at a gun store.
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Just went to HFR and signed, but left my address blank.
This isnt a legal petition so address is optional in this case. I lookup your legislative district and write it down for the reps to see. Looks more professional and sometimes the reps will contact constituants to talk.
I figure anyone can lookup anyone's address on the internet nowadays and China already has everyones personal info anyways.
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At KHSC for the petition drive. Come help out.
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Sorry zip.
I got there waaayy late.
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Sorry zip.
I got there waaayy late.
No worries, 4 more weekends to go. Range has been a bit emptier than usual lately. Wonder if its a seasonal thing. Was less than half full in the morning.
About a quarter way to the 2,000 signature goal. May be possible with the gun stores and clubs helping out now.
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2 more gun stores on board helping with the petition.
Danger Close Tactical - www.danger-close-tactical.com in Nuuanu. Open on weekday evenings and good After work stopover with great service from Dwayne. Good prices on special order items and FFLs. Only place in Hawaii where you can buy a firearm and get shave ice at the same time.
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If you are an outdoorsman, J Hara Store (www.jharastore.com) in Kaimuki is your store. Specializing in hunting, fishing, diving, and archery. Good selection of firearms, ammo, and accessories.
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Getting the gun stores to help out is going a lot better than expected. Please go to our partners to sign the petition and thank them for helping in the fight for gun rights. I'm still working on the remainder of stores here, then I'll get to the Big Island and Kauai.
PARTNERS:
Maui Ammo and Gun Supply
Danger Close Tactical
Gun Source
J. Hara (Kaimuki)
Young Guns
Prime Sports
Hawaii Gun SHop
Kaneohe Gun SHop
Honolulu Firearms and Range
KM Concepts
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620 signatures so far, not counting those at the gun stores. Keep up the good work. Thanks to the volunteers who helped collect signatures at the range and at their workplaces.
You can download the petition at http://hifico.org/petition-drive-2018/. Get the form filled out and take a camera pic to email to us.
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Adding more partner stores to the list:
Hawaii Tactical Outfitter
Security Equipment Corp
Stuebs' Guns & Ammo
J. Hara Store (Kurtistown)
S. Tokunaga Store
Just 5 more gun stores to go and all of Hawaii's gun shops will be united in the fight for 2a gun rights.
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More stores across the state are helping out. Just a few more to go. We'll be better prepared to fend off antiguan legislation next year.
Windward Gun Shop at Sand Island Friendly service with firearms and lots of reloading supplies and accessories.
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Stuebs in Hilo Near the airport with lots of hunting and tactical rifles, handguns, and reloading supplies.
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J Hara in Kurtistown, just outside of Hilo. Longtime store serving the east side with firearms and hunting supplies, reloading, fishing, and archery equipment.
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S Tokunaga Store in Hilo. Great selection of firearms, reloading components, fishing, diving, and archery supplies.
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Visiting Hilo this week to see the gun stores and making connections.
I went to the Mile Marker 16 (Morita Camp) Range on Saddle Road. From Hilo travel west on Saddle Road for about 25 minutes until you see the green Mile 16 sign then go about 100 yards past and turn right onto a dirt road. You should have a truck or SUV because it's crushed lava rocks and cinder with bumps and ruts. You need a Hawaii hunting license and bring your own targets/frames out because there's none there. There are two bays about 50 yards long. It's a clearing in the Ohia forest with lava rock. One bay has a cinder backstop, the other doesnt.
Location: https://goo.gl/maps/uEBcwCTG4nT2
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I met with Ryan Kohatsu who is a member of the State Game Management Advisory Committee(GMAC) committee and Kean who is with the county GMAC. They are a new committee formed by the legislature and appointed by the Governor to work with the DLNR to represent hunting interests. Their main problem is the erradication of game animals on the island. DLNR is performing aerial hunting of goats, sheep, and pigs to eradicate them, leaving the carcass to rot for the sake of environmentalism. This leaves nothing for hunters to hunt. Ryan says hunters and environmentalists can work together to identify areas of land where eradication is needed to protect endangered species and the environment while preserving hunting lands where there is no threat. He is also working to promote building a public range by Pohakuloa and improving the existing Mile Marker 16 range. Ryan needs the help of all hunters and firearms enthusiest in the State to help with these issues.
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And a beautiful shot of the great weather in Hilo. I guess everyone's getting rained on back in Honolulu.
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Also met Punaperson for the first time. Found that we had a lot in common and he's very dedicated to the cause. Look forward to working with him on gun rights issues in the future.