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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Drakiir84 on October 24, 2018, 05:23:24 AM

Title: Facebook tyrants
Post by: Drakiir84 on October 24, 2018, 05:23:24 AM
Oahu gun club page was permanently deleted overnight by facebook.  Despite there being 100% post moderation by administrators preventing the explicit sale of firearms.

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Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: dogman on October 24, 2018, 06:12:15 AM
Just saw on the news a customer turned a gun on them self there on Sunday. Someone intervened and a shot was fired.
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: RSN172 on October 24, 2018, 06:21:39 AM
I hate FB.
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: Inspector on October 24, 2018, 06:34:18 AM
I hate FB.
+1
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: punaperson on October 24, 2018, 06:55:39 AM
There's still hope... very slim, but at least it's a hope...

Facebook ‘could collapse’ if election scandals keep coming, author warns

https://metro.co.uk/2018/10/24/facebook-could-collapse-if-election-scandals-keep-coming-author-warns-8069938/?ito=cbshare

Facebook ‘could collapse’ if it keeps being dogged by scandals over misinformation and election hacking, says the author of a 2010 book on the company. David Kirkpatrick says advertisers could start to shun the platform if the scandals don’t stop – after a year of seemingly endless controversy over misinformation, privacy and ‘fake news’. Kirkpatrick said the election manipulation issue, ‘could get so terrifying that advertisers could start to back away. That’s nowhere near happening now, but it could happen.’

Research earlier this summer suggested that young people are deserting Facebook.
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: Inspector on October 24, 2018, 07:10:36 AM
There's still hope... very slim, but at least it's a hope...

Facebook ‘could collapse’ if election scandals keep coming, author warns

https://metro.co.uk/2018/10/24/facebook-could-collapse-if-election-scandals-keep-coming-author-warns-8069938/?ito=cbshare

Facebook ‘could collapse’ if it keeps being dogged by scandals over misinformation and election hacking, says the author of a 2010 book on the company. David Kirkpatrick says advertisers could start to shun the platform if the scandals don’t stop – after a year of seemingly endless controversy over misinformation, privacy and ‘fake news’. Kirkpatrick said the election manipulation issue, ‘could get so terrifying that advertisers could start to back away. That’s nowhere near happening now, but it could happen.’

Research earlier this summer suggested that young people are deserting Facebook.
The only way FB collapses is when capitalism takes over and some entrepreneurial person creates a better FB. It will happen eventually. But it will take time. It happened with MySpace. It will happen with FB, too. When a different/better platform becomes available people will move.

When you start seeing a lot of upper management start escaping FB, you know something is up. JMHO
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: macsak on October 24, 2018, 07:21:36 AM
Just saw on the news a customer turned a gun on them self there on Sunday. Someone intervened and a shot was fired.

#focus
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: aieahound on October 24, 2018, 07:23:34 AM
It's called Instagram.
And Snapchat.
None of the kids now days use Facebook.
It's going the way of the blackberry.

I personally use pictograph.
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: drck1000 on October 24, 2018, 07:55:40 AM
#focus
too much amps?   ???
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: punaperson on October 24, 2018, 07:57:59 AM
It's called Instagram.

Zuckerberg owns Instagram. Just sayin'...

And Snapchat.
None of the kids now days use Facebook.

According to the article 51% of teens use Facebook daily. Not the 70-something % using Instagram and Snapchat, but still... that's a lot of teens.

It's going the way of the blackberry.

I personally use pictograph.
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 24, 2018, 08:43:09 AM
FB and IG are censoring many now.  But unfortunately, they control the social media market.  If I could, I would delete both my FB and IG, but I rely on them to keep in contact with people and to get info the fake news doesn't tell you.
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: RSN172 on October 24, 2018, 08:48:46 AM
and to get info the fake news doesn't tell you.

That's what 2A Hawaii is for
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 24, 2018, 09:08:26 AM
That's what 2A Hawaii is for

Maybe we should start an "awoke" sub section?
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: drck1000 on October 24, 2018, 10:09:02 AM
The only way FB collapses is when capitalism takes over and some entrepreneurial person creates a better FB. It will happen eventually. But it will take time. It happened with MySpace. It will happen with FB, too. When a different/better platform becomes available people will move.

When you start seeing a lot of upper management start escaping FB, you know something is up. JMHO
Revive your site.  I'll join. . .  :P
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: zippz on October 24, 2018, 10:31:06 AM
There's another facebook group to join called 808 Firearms.
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: London808 on October 24, 2018, 12:24:51 PM
#focus

Maybe he’s onto something. People googling Oahu gun club may of confused the FB group and the shooting range and FB banned it for being linked to the news story even tho they are 2 separate things
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: dogman on October 24, 2018, 07:02:59 PM
Maybe he’s onto something. People googling Oahu gun club may of confused the FB group and the shooting range and FB banned it for being linked to the news story even tho they are 2 separate things
I have never been on FB except when I ask someone with one of those new fangled phones that gets internet service to check whats on sale at Young Guns. Sooo. . . Oahu Gun Club (news story) is not the same as Oahu gun club OP. Then there's OGC that stands for Oahu Gun Club. :-[
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: eyeeatingfish on October 24, 2018, 08:13:35 PM
The only way FB collapses is when capitalism takes over and some entrepreneurial person creates a better FB. It will happen eventually. But it will take time. It happened with MySpace. It will happen with FB, too. When a different/better platform becomes available people will move.

When you start seeing a lot of upper management start escaping FB, you know something is up. JMHO

Yeah, I agree. I don't see facebook going away anytime soon, at least not in America where free speech would inhibit much of what a government could do to try and shut it down.
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: eyeeatingfish on October 24, 2018, 08:17:38 PM
Oahu gun club page was permanently deleted overnight by facebook.  Despite there being 100% post moderation by administrators preventing the explicit sale of firearms.

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I could be wrong but I think there is an appeals process. The administrator should contact facebook to inquire why and ask to be reinstated.
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: macsak on October 24, 2018, 09:05:00 PM
I could be wrong but I think there is an appeals process. The administrator should contact facebook to inquire why and ask to be reinstated.

yes, we are aware you could be wrong
that's why you never make a definitive statement

we are also aware of the appeals process
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: zippz on October 25, 2018, 06:26:03 AM
In related news, the Supreme court will determine if social media companies can censor content.  Though the case wouldn't affect bans on gun sales.



Supreme Court agrees to hear a case that could determine whether Facebook, Twitter and other social media companies can censor their users
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/16/supreme-court-case-could-decide-fb-twitter-power-to-regulate-speech.html
Title: Re: Facebook tyrants
Post by: drck1000 on October 25, 2018, 07:16:23 AM
While I don’t like FB targeting gun groups or deleting comments like in the discussion that’s seem not inline with their tastes, like with Inspector’s thread. But why wouldn’t FB be free to censor content on their site? It’s not a Government system nor is it discrimination based on race, sexual orientation, etc. Everyone has a right to free speech, but if I had an online media outlet or forum, I don’t have to accept and host those views.

In genuinely serious here. If there are laws or something in the constitution here, then yeah, Supreme Court. I don’t like what happened based on principe for sure, but there are many things in life like that. Life isn’t fair and I think too many people look to the courts to address things like that.

If I had the money, I’d start a SM outlet that was gun friendly. If I won the MegaMillions, I’d buy a huge property for a shooting range for mostly free access. If course i would likely be criticized for being a safety Nazi, but can’t make everyone happy. It just sucks that those with money and power seem to be anti-2A. Because those without a means to stick up for themselves are more easily run over.