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Title: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 02, 2019, 09:06:45 AM
Surprised AOC didn't announce a run either.  "I just bought a new pair of New Balance running shoes in anticipation for a presidential run in 2020.  I'm starting to train now".
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 02, 2019, 02:23:13 PM
Surprised AOC didn't announce a run either.  "I just bought a new pair of New Balance running shoes in anticipation for a presidential run in 2020.  I'm starting to train now".

I thought she only announced she's hiring an exploratory committee to see *IF* she wants to make that decision.

I believe she named the group doing the exploring:  Lewis & Clark & Associates.
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: hvybarrels on January 02, 2019, 02:31:52 PM
Ha ha Pocahontas is running! Let me guess, the DNC strategy is to put her out there to get the born-yesterday liberal voters all worked up before replacing her with some deep state loyalist at the last minute. We wouldn't want her to make actual reforms after all. That might be bad for the billionaires.
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: mrgaf on January 02, 2019, 02:44:55 PM
Ug, she lookum likem south end of north bound tatonka.  :D
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: zippz on January 02, 2019, 03:20:39 PM
Oh good I want to hear her Indian war cry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnvpjJBh2F4
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: zippz on January 02, 2019, 03:24:07 PM
Surprised AOC didn't announce a run either.

Too young, she has to wait til 2028. 
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: punaperson on January 03, 2019, 06:33:04 AM
Too young, she has to wait til 2028.
Too dumb, she has to wait til never.

FIFY
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 03, 2019, 02:22:33 PM
In her last vid, she's having a beer and now she says she wants out of Syria and A-Stan.

Seems like she's trying to get votes with conservatives and soldiers.  Next she will announce she supports 1st responders and host a fundraiser for them.

She's not fooling anyone.
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 03, 2019, 02:24:42 PM
Oh good I want to hear her Indian war cry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnvpjJBh2F4

Reminds me of FMJ.  But I can't take Vince seriously.  I was waiting for the "Can I ask the questions?  May I be in charge now."
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: eyeeatingfish on January 07, 2019, 10:34:25 PM
Surprised AOC didn't announce a run either.  "I just bought a new pair of New Balance running shoes in anticipation for a presidential run in 2020.  I'm starting to train now".

Would you rather have Warren as president or AOC?
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 08, 2019, 09:50:22 AM
Would you rather have Warren as president or AOC?

AOC because she's "untainted" so far.  And her dumb ideas would never pass anyways.  And who ever she runs against (GOP) she would lose due to her bright ideas.

Funny Warren had a black guy eating a watermelon in the background of her beer drinking video and no one called her racist yet.
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: robtmc on January 08, 2019, 11:56:21 AM
AOC because she's "untainted" so far.  And her dumb ideas would never pass anyways.  And who ever she runs against (GOP) she would lose due to her bright ideas.

Funny Warren had a black guy eating a watermelon in the background of her beer drinking video and no one called her racist yet.

HPD troll still butthurt over PIAPS being kicked to the curb?
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: eyeeatingfish on January 10, 2019, 10:02:04 PM
AOC because she's "untainted" so far.  And her dumb ideas would never pass anyways.  And who ever she runs against (GOP) she would lose due to her bright ideas.

Funny Warren had a black guy eating a watermelon in the background of her beer drinking video and no one called her racist yet.

I saw that scandal but I looked at the zoomed in image of the trinket on her shelf and it didn't match the watermelon eating image people were posting suggesting it was.
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: eyeeatingfish on January 10, 2019, 10:03:06 PM
HPD troll still butthurt over PIAPS being kicked to the curb?

I don't get butthurt when you or anyone else trolls. I just call you guys on it.
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: punaperson on February 07, 2019, 11:59:47 AM
Here's Liawatha spending over 4 minutes repeating her talking point on the subject over and over and over...  I guess the Washington Post and CNN have picked someone else for Dem nominee already... I wanna see all the forms and applications filled out by her brothers where they claimed they were Native Americans, because she says they all believed "the family stories"... sure...

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/02/06/liawatha-still-trying-to-explain-why-she-listed-herself-as-american-indian/

Liawatha Still Trying to Explain Why She Listed Herself as American Indian…

Senator Elizabeth Warren answered questions today after evidence surfaced showing she listed herself as an American Indian on a Texas Bar registration form.

Despite several minutes of answering/not answering questions, she’s still no better off than the moments before she approached the cameras. All goofy. She’s toast.

https://youtu.be/oJICQqmb9mE
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 07, 2019, 12:25:19 PM
I understand that someone could be given wrong info about their family background.  But the problem is that she made millions off of that info.  And her mom isn't able to confirm "yeah, I told her she's Indian".

And she isn't Indian enough that she should be allowed to benefit from it.  That's like my coworker who's pinky toe is Hawaiian and he wants to apply for homestead land.
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: eyeeatingfish on February 07, 2019, 04:53:30 PM
Surprised AOC didn't announce a run either.  "I just bought a new pair of New Balance running shoes in anticipation for a presidential run in 2020.  I'm starting to train now".

She doesn't have enough time and experience and she knows that. I am sure that she will in the near future though.
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: eyeeatingfish on February 07, 2019, 05:03:49 PM
I understand that someone could be given wrong info about their family background.  But the problem is that she made millions off of that info.  And her mom isn't able to confirm "yeah, I told her she's Indian".

And she isn't Indian enough that she should be allowed to benefit from it.  That's like my coworker who's pinky toe is Hawaiian and he wants to apply for homestead land.

As conservatives I think we should refrain from giving credence to the liberal crap about who is what race, how much is enough, and what it should get you (or take away from you). I take her at her word, that her relative told her she is native american and that she trusted her relative. My relative told me we are native american so I put it on my college forms. Was she supposed to not trust her relative and not list anything just because her skin is too white? I just don't see this as an issue we should lend credence too even if she is ass backwards on guns. (For the record I now currently refuse to put any race on forms)

Conservatives are (generally) against affirmative action but now we are going to come out and stipulate a certain percentage of minority someone has to be? I find that inconsistent. I don't think anyone has the standing to tell anyone else they aren't black enough or white enough or native american enough. It's an arbitrary line. I once new a black guy who had a skin condition where he lacked pigment so his skin looked like a white guy. Culture on the other hand is a different issue.
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 07, 2019, 05:32:31 PM
But if u only had to put 1 race on an app, would u out indian?

She has, even though she knows she pulls way more white. Like i said, pinky toe is hawaiian so im go  a apply for homestead.

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Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: robtmc on February 07, 2019, 07:23:01 PM
But if u only had to put 1 race on an app, would u out indian?
No mention yet of Fauxcahontas claiming to be an American Indian on her Texas bar application?

She is a dead hag walking politically, just does not know it yet.
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on February 07, 2019, 07:40:30 PM
No mention yet of Fauxcahontas claiming to be an American Indian on her Texas bar application?

She is a dead hag walking politically, just does not know it yet.

That was discovered by the Washington Post.

Then Juan Williams on Fox's The Five said REPUBLICANS are responsible for making the bar application an issue.

Twilight Zone ....
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: eyeeatingfish on February 09, 2019, 11:24:26 PM
But if u only had to put 1 race on an app, would u out indian?

She has, even though she knows she pulls way more white. Like i said, pinky toe is hawaiian so im go  a apply for homestead.

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Well now I refuse to put anything, except for the gun permits because I don't want to get into an argument or test what happens if I refuse to put my race on the form.

Though since I never really liked the idea of racial preference I might put native american just to mess with the system.

But about people checking Hawaiian I know that happens all the time.

Were the forms she filled out 1 choice only or multi-choice? But either way, I don't care. If someone ¼ native american can list their race to their advantage why not someone 1/6th or 1/32nd?
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: punaperson on February 10, 2019, 07:02:19 AM
Yeah, Warren's DNA test revealed she COULD be 1/1,024 some kind of non-european based upon genotypes originating in central and south America.

By that standard almost everyone is almost everything.
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 10, 2019, 09:04:24 AM
Well now I refuse to put anything, except for the gun permits because I don't want to get into an argument or test what happens if I refuse to put my race on the form.

Though since I never really liked the idea of racial preference I might put native american just to mess with the system.

But about people checking Hawaiian I know that happens all the time.

Were the forms she filled out 1 choice only or multi-choice? But either way, I don't care. If someone ¼ native american can list their race to their advantage why not someone 1/6th or 1/32nd?
My friends brother has indian on his birth cert cause when the nurse asked his dad what he was, he said indian. He was drunk as hell. Back then, they just asked and had to show no proof.

So fast forward and all the kids went to kamehameha but him. Because he had indian on his birth cert.

But like i said, u not using race to benefit urself., unlike how someone else was. Pinky toe referrence.

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Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: eyeeatingfish on February 10, 2019, 08:27:06 PM
My friends brother has indian on his birth cert cause when the nurse asked his dad what he was, he said indian. He was drunk as hell. Back then, they just asked and had to show no proof.

So fast forward and all the kids went to kamehameha but him. Because he had indian on his birth cert.

But like i said, u not using race to benefit urself., unlike how someone else was. Pinky toe referrence.

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My philosophy is that the flaw is with the system, not with what she did. The system dangled candy out in front of her and she legitimately took it.

The real problem is with the system that tries to give preference based on race. That system is what creates this market for questionable claims.

It's like giving all sorts of tax exemptions and then complaining when people take them by calling them loopholes.
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 13, 2019, 10:24:29 AM
My philosophy is that the flaw is with the system, not with what she did. The system dangled candy out in front of her and she legitimately took it.

The real problem is with the system that tries to give preference based on race. That system is what creates this market for questionable claims.

It's like giving all sorts of tax exemptions and then complaining when people take them by calling them loopholes.

I agree, she may have had no idea that she was not indian.  But the fact is that even if she was (1/1024 doesn't count), she used it to move through the ranks.  How do I know, she pulls more nordic than indian, just look at her.  Like if she was half, it would show.  Or even 1/4 it would show.  But then the question is what % is acceptable to use for financial gain?  See my example above I posted.  If my friend who pulls more haole than hawaiian (pinky toe reference), applied for a school and used Hawaiian as his main race and got in due to that fact, would society be okay with that?  Say he applied at The University of WA.  I know they look to get that demographic in because my other friend got in because she's 25% Hawaiian.  And if you look at her, you can tell she has Hawaiian in her.
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: eyeeatingfish on February 13, 2019, 05:01:01 PM
I agree, she may have had no idea that she was not indian.  But the fact is that even if she was (1/1024 doesn't count), she used it to move through the ranks.  How do I know, she pulls more nordic than indian, just look at her.  Like if she was half, it would show.  Or even 1/4 it would show.  But then the question is what % is acceptable to use for financial gain?  See my example above I posted.  If my friend who pulls more haole than hawaiian (pinky toe reference), applied for a school and used Hawaiian as his main race and got in due to that fact, would society be okay with that?  Say he applied at The University of WA.  I know they look to get that demographic in because my other friend got in because she's 25% Hawaiian.  And if you look at her, you can tell she has Hawaiian in her.

The problem with using how someone looks as a basis is that it just isn't reliable or consistent. I know a black guy who has a skin condition where he has no pigment so he essentially looks white. So does he still get to claim black privileges even if his skin color didn't cause him to suffer the injustices people with black skin do? I don't expect an answer there, I just find it an interesting thought exercise.
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 13, 2019, 07:02:20 PM
The problem with using how someone looks as a basis is that it just isn't reliable or consistent. I know a black guy who has a skin condition where he has no pigment so he essentially looks white. So does he still get to claim black privileges even if his skin color didn't cause him to suffer the injustices people with black skin do? I don't expect an answer there, I just find it an interesting thought exercise.
What does his hair look like? I know a guy also. Everyone knows he black with a condition.

Unless hes the rock. Then we really dont know what he is.

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Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: drck1000 on February 13, 2019, 08:06:47 PM
My philosophy is that the flaw is with the system, not with what she did. The system dangled candy out in front of her and she legitimately took it.

The real problem is with the system that tries to give preference based on race. That system is what creates this market for questionable claims.

It's like giving all sorts of tax exemptions and then complaining when people take them by calling them loopholes.
Flaw with the system? How about people be honorable and honest?  What’s to damn hard about that? And to hold people accountable... nah. It’s the systems fault...
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: Heavies on February 13, 2019, 08:27:26 PM
https://youtu.be/8Dd_qiuWxPs
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 14, 2019, 08:43:54 AM
https://youtu.be/8Dd_qiuWxPs

This is on joke,  I can see the UK ending up like this in a decade or so.

Woman arrested in the UK for missgendering a dude via FB.  I'm sure there is more to the story...
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: eyeeatingfish on February 14, 2019, 08:52:02 PM
Flaw with the system? How about people be honorable and honest?  What’s to damn hard about that? And to hold people accountable... nah. It’s the systems fault...

Because as soon as you incentivize someone to cheat people will do it.
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: ren on February 14, 2019, 10:05:43 PM
(http://www.floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/IndianCher.jpg)

meh...maybe can

maybe this -
(http://www.floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/ElizabethWarren.jpg)

much
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: macsak on April 30, 2019, 12:04:10 PM
holy crap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4Qq-v55JhA
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: macsak on May 31, 2019, 03:18:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBzcvDoAg5w
Title: Re: Warren Announces Presidential Run 2020
Post by: robtmc on June 01, 2019, 11:08:19 AM
(http://www.floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/IndianCher.jpg)

Old Char, another fake.  She is Armenian, not native American in the slightest from what i recall.