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General Topics => Off Topic => Topic started by: drck1000 on January 30, 2019, 08:03:44 AM
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Damn millennials. . .
I send a few emails to an engineer in another branch and his supervisor for support. I did that because he's pretty young and I was pretty sure he needed guidance from his supervisor. His supervisor isn't very good as he doesn't manage nor teach his engineers well. Anyways, each email CLEARLY stated what I was asking from them and I added some background and commentary. While they are a different discipline, I know enough that I can get at least 50% of the answer.
So the engineer comes to see me this morning asking be about what I wanted. I figure ok, he's wanting some additional insight beyond what my email said. No. He was clarifying that what I wanted was what I said in my email!!! I then ask him if he went to see his supervisor for some guidance, to which he answered "no". I mean I am definitely good with teaching and mentoring the younger engineers, but 1) that's not my job and 2) especially pissed about it because his supervisor is terrible (and other branches know it). The engineer then goes on and on about how they did it at his previous office, which wasn't wrong but totally irrelevant.
I've been dealing with millenials for a while now and I've actually taken courses specifically for managing them. That said, even though I am aware that they generally need more guidance and pushing, damn. They are grown ass adults that seem to need constant hand holding and can't think for themselves. . . :grrr:
Anyways, think my coffee is kicking in. . .
Feel free to share your work frustrations. . . Or frustrations in general. . .
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Know EXACTLY how you feel..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzUICBMQBNU
Couldn't find the clip when he goes to payroll.
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Most millennials i’ve Worked with and have met along the way don’t have the common sense of a stone, my youngest daughter included! :wacko:
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Man, sounds exactly like my work place - even having to deal with engineers on a daily basis. I have a few millennial that work for me. Good people that sometimes exhibit the kind of behavior you describe, but I try to be patient. My beef is mostly with management - incompetent, arrogant and uncaring.
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Man, sounds exactly like my work place - My beef is mostly with management - incompetent, arrogant and uncaring.
Which Hawaii politician do you work for?
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It's a time-honored tradition to feel the newest generation is awful. I came across a quote it which Plato was lambasting the youth of his day. Plato! It would have sounded right at place coming out of one of your mouths today. As a college prof, though, I don't see it. Don't get me wrong; the students perform as college students have always performed, as I myself performed. There's a certain philosophy of minimal effort and delayed implementation in most cases. But they're every bit as bright, and able to learn, and able to implement complex constructs, as any college student I've ever seen, myself included.
Now, they do have an alarming dearth of practical skills. I had one email me after graduating to ask what high beams on her car were for. Folding fitted sheets, driving a standard, writing in cursive...
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Most millennials i’ve Worked with and have met along the way don’t have the common sense of a stone, my youngest daughter included! :wacko:
If you're going by common sense as the indicator, I will say that there's that in ALL generations. But yeah, probably seems more apparent in the younger millenials and Gen Z generations where they seem to lack some very basic life skills. So many raised so sheltered. Not saying I did the whole walk to school uphill in the snow both ways that the baby boomers did, but there is a lot to be learned in the world if you aren't raised in a bubble.
Man, sounds exactly like my work place - even having to deal with engineers on a daily basis. I have a few millennial that work for me. Good people that sometimes exhibit the kind of behavior you describe, but I try to be patient. My beef is mostly with management - incompetent, arrogant and uncaring.
Yeah, there are definitely good people that innocently exhibit the behavior that I described and causes me frustration. It's not about them being assholes or anything like that. This one guy that I was talking about in my OP seems to be a nice guy. Just clueless. I mean I get some folks need to have things laid out 1 through 10. Some folks prefer telling them get to 10 and they find their own way. I basically told him answer questions 1, 2, and 3 and he proceeded to ask me to confirm I wanted 1, 2, and 3. Later, he responded without answering 1, 2, and 3, but then proceeded to confirm stuff that I already knew. He should have known I already knew that because I told him that in my initial email. :(
I have been patient and will continue to do so. My frustration with this particular guy is that his supervisor is terrible and doesn't teach him anything, so he depends on folks in other branches, like me. So yeah, that goes along with your beef with incompetent management. In this case, not arrogant or uncaring though we do have some of that here, but thankfully not folks that I deal with regularly.
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It's a time-honored tradition to feel the newest generation is awful. I came across a quote it which Plato was lambasting the youth of his day. Plato! It would have sounded right at place coming out of one of your mouths today. As a college prof, though, I don't see it. Don't get me wrong; the students perform as college students have always performed, as I myself performed. There's a certain philosophy of minimal effort and delayed implementation in most cases. But they're every bit as bright, and able to learn, and able to implement complex constructs, as any college student I've ever seen, myself included.
Now, they do have an alarming dearth of practical skills. I had one email me after graduating to ask what high beams on her car were for. Folding fitted sheets, driving a standard, writing in cursive...
Yeah, there's certainly that. I am close to the kids of one of my best friends. The oldest is 17 and he cruises with "da uncles" when we drink. He goes on and on about what he thinks about life, what he thinks about us old guys, etc. My friend look at each other and see right through his teenage BS. Meanwhile my friend's dad is drinking with us and just laughing to himself while my friend and I talk about how knowing what we know now, how we've been there, done that, that it seems funny that teenagers think they are so innovative. My friend's dad just laughs. I ask "I bet we sounded just like that to you when we were that age!". He just laughs and goes "YUP!". ;D
For me, while I'm a Gen Xer, I relate more to Baby Boomer style, at least for work. That's how I was groomed when I started work right out of college. And now that we have the younger Gen Z, millenials are still the most problematic generational group. At least from what the trainers are telling us.
The death of practical skills is definitely something I see and I alluded to above. I mean much of what we feel is practical doesn't apply to younger generations. Like knowing how to operate a rotary phone or soon even how to write a check. But there are some life lessons that are timeless, and much of that seems to be lost on younger generations.
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Damn older coworkers. . .
One of my coworkers is an older Chinese guy. Maybe late 60s or early 70s. Anyways, this guy is an eating and farting/burping machine! Not really venting, but more :rofl: I dunno if he thinks folks can't hear, but he farts and burps ALL THE TIME! He eats pretty often as well and he's super loud. I don't think he's hard of hearing. Sometimes, after he's eaten, he'll burp really loudly and I'll say over the partition "What did you say (his name)?". He'll laugh say "excuse me". It doesn't bother me, but damn! ;D
In my previous office, one of my coworkers was an older Chinese guy (coincidence?) who would crop dust the entire office. I think he was 73 when he retired. Anyways, he'd walk down the aisles and tooting along the way! Everyone noticed it, but we all wondered if he knew, or if he even cared. SUPER nice guy and I don't think anyone ever had the heart to tell him. :rofl:
Also in a previous office, there was an older Swiss guy. He was a burper. Super loud burper and sneezer. He knew it too. After a loud burp or sneeze, many times he would say out loud "oh shit!". It was pretty hilarious. I think he was in his early 70s at the time.
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When flying, someone who keeps putting their knees in the back of my seat and then when getting up, pulling on my seat back with so much force it feels like I’m almost lying flat. :grrr:
Was lucky to get upgraded to 1st in my second leg. But this one is only an hour and 30 min flight.
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Older coworker is at it again. . . He's retiring at the end of April though.
I brought in some Big Island Crunch Bars for my coworkers. My buddy's son is selling them for a fundraiser and he conned me into buying a box. It's a crunch bar, like a Whatchamacallit. Anyways, he's eating one this morning and he's chewing so loud that it sounds like I'm sitting next to a HUGE COW! And of course the obligatory burp. :rofl:
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I always buy stuff when friends/coworkers kids are selling. Because when I was small, lots of friends/coworkers bought from my parents what I was selling.
DRCK, you starting to sound like Mrs.CMO. I would play xbox with the headset on (no volume on TV) and she would complain, "I can here the buttons clicking. It's to loud".
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I always buy stuff when friends/coworkers kids are selling. Because when I was small, lots of friends/coworkers bought from my parents what I was selling.
DRCK, you starting to sound like Mrs.CMO. I would play xbox with the headset on (no volume on TV) and she would complain, "I can here the buttons clicking. It's to loud".
Not really complaining about my coworkers. Just something I notice.
And if she’s complaining about the volume of the buttons clicking, that’s saying something else...
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Not really complaining about my coworkers. Just something I notice.
And if she’s complaining about the volume of the buttons clicking, that’s saying something else...
As long as she doesn't tell me to stop buying gun stuff, it's all G.
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"Today's youth is rotten, evil, godless, and lazy. It will never be what youth used to be, and it will never be able to preserve our culture." -Babylonian clay tablet dated around 1000 BC
There's a great book by Robert Greene called The Laws Of Human Nature and chapter 17 is all about understanding different generations. Boomers are more self obsessed because they were raised during peak empire, Gen-x are cynical because decline began in the 1990's, and Millennials are more prone to avoid direct confrontation because they grew up in an era of terrorism. There's a lot more too it than that, but if Kids These Days make you want to pull your hair out it's a good idea to do some extra research into the phenomenon, especially if you are in a supervisory role.
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"Today's youth is rotten, evil, godless, and lazy. It will never be what youth used to be, and it will never be able to preserve our culture." -Babylonian clay tablet dated around 1000 BC
There's a great book by Robert Greene called The Laws Of Human Nature and chapter 17 is all about understanding different generations. Boomers are more self obsessed because they were raised during peak empire, Gen-x are cynical because decline began in the 1990's, and Millennials are more prone to avoid direct confrontation because they grew up in an era of terrorism. There's a lot more too it than that, but if Kids These Days make you want to pull your hair out it's a good idea to do some extra research into the phenomenon, especially if you are in a supervisory role.
I’ve already down research on it as well as had many course on generational diversity, managing (fill in the blank) generation, how to handle condescending socialists, etc. Still makes me want to Darth Vader choke folks every so often. Would be good therapy to see their faces...
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It's only going to get worst. Probably when I'm your guys age, I will be reviving this 20 year old post. Kids now being taught by actions, it's OK to assault or harass a conservative/republican/Trump supporter. They won't really get in any trouble. We've all seen the videos online that someone wearing a MAGA hat is being harassed, denied service or entry like it's the cool thing to do. It's OK to disregard facts/science.
I remember being at the Miracle Mile in Vegas and they had a Trump Store. There was a girl in her 20's taking a selfie of her giving the finger to the stores sign. Imagine how she's going to raise her kids.
So here's the 20 year prediciton: CMO-Damnit, there's this young kid who got written up because of XYZ (facts) reason. They'e saying those reasons (facts) don't apply to them because they feel like they are correct and the facts are wrong. And this kid blinks to loud. (Notice how I didn't use he/her)
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It's only going to get worst. Probably when I'm your guys age, I will be reviving this 20 year old post. Kids now being taught by actions, it's OK to assault or harass a conservative/republican/Trump supporter. They won't really get in any trouble. We've all seen the videos online that someone wearing a MAGA hat is being harassed, denied service or entry like it's the cool thing to do. It's OK to disregard facts/science.
I remember being at the Miracle Mile in Vegas and they had a Trump Store. There was a girl in her 20's taking a selfie of her giving the finger to the stores sign. Imagine how she's going to raise her kids.
So here's the 20 year prediciton: CMO-Damnit, there's this young kid who got written up because of XYZ (facts) reason. They'e saying those reasons (facts) don't apply to them because they feel like they are correct and the facts are wrong. And this kid blinks to loud. (Notice how I didn't use he/her)
Yeah. Every generation is different from the previous and the next. I've had many talks over beers with one of my best friend's dad about what my friend and I notice about his son. Same shit, different generation. That said, millenials are definitely different. When the younger generation bashes on them, it's :rofl:
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It's a time-honored tradition to feel the newest generation is awful. I came across a quote it which Plato was lambasting the youth of his day. Plato! It would have sounded right at place coming out of one of your mouths today. As a college prof, though, I don't see it. Don't get me wrong; the students perform as college students have always performed, as I myself performed. There's a certain philosophy of minimal effort and delayed implementation in most cases. But they're every bit as bright, and able to learn, and able to implement complex constructs, as any college student I've ever seen, myself included.
Now, they do have an alarming dearth of practical skills. I had one email me after graduating to ask what high beams on her car were for. Folding fitted sheets, driving a standard, writing in cursive...
I heard they found hieroglyphics in Egyptian pyramids complaining about the new generation.
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People who know what they know. . .
Did a road trip from Houston to Bumf*%k, LA (central LA) last week with a coworker.
I get along really well with this coworker and he used to be in my department. Anyways, he's venting about how one of the guys in my department doesn't have common sense. Well, yeah, he's mostly right, but it's not like my coworker who is on the trip with me is that much different. Just a different perspective on what is common sense.
He drove from Houston to BF, LA. About a 3-4 hour drive. Once you leave Houston, it's mostly two lane highway, but where posted speed limits are in the 60-75 mph range. Along this highway, there are driveways to individual proprties, subdivisions, etc. Since everyone is doing the speedlimit or higher, most of the locals signal way before their turn. If it's a right turn, maybe 100 yards before their driveway, they go into the shoulder, slow down, and make the turn. It was pretty common and something one would assume would be pretty easy to pick up on. But not my worker. After seeing this like a dozen times already, we see the right blinker go on, the guy goes into the shoulder well before his turn, and my coworker comments "where's he going? why is he pulling over so far away from his drive way?". . . Uh. . . Then when we make a pit stop on a place on the right side, he doesn't do the go into shoulder thing, but jams on the brakes maybe 20 yards before and makes the turn. A local beeped at him at least once and my coworker was like, "what was that about?".
Our hotel in Houston has a guard in a golf cart at the entrance to the parking lot. He's situated in the middle of the driveway, but maybe 20 yards in. So pretty apparent that you come in and pass the guard on the driver's side. And on the way out, you do the same. No. On the way out, my coworker goes such that we pass the guard on the passenger side. He cuts the corner of the entry drive way. Ok, not that bad when it's like 11 pm and no one is coming in, but he does that when we were leaving at around 2 pm one day and when another car is coming in. He sees the car coming in, swerves to the right and almost hits the guard. . . :o
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Maybe he's just a shitty driver?
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How do I resist giving a big ole "Wop Yo Jaws" to a know-it-all coworker?
At work, we are grouped into specific disciplines. Most of our groups run/manage projects whereas some groups are only supports (review and advice on their technical expertise) since they are deemed to "valuable and specialized" to bog them down with managing projects. One of the groups has a signature block that their manager needs to sign in order to get the chief engineer to sign to allow a project to go out for solicitation. This group is notorious for being "I ruled this way, you have to prove I'm wrong to change my mind". In many cases, the code is silent on many things in order to leave things up to designer discretion and judgement. This group takes things as "if the code doesn't explicitly allow it, it's not allowed". Anyways. . .
I'm managing this one large project and my support for the "notorious" group rules something that I feel is pretty unreasonable. His ruling was to incorporate a requirement that is NOT stated in the code based on his interpretation of the code. While not my subject expertise, the way I read the code was that it was silent on it, therefore leaving room for judgement and common sense. Believe me that this ruling was NOT common sense. I asked him what the intent was behind that section of code. As SME for codes, we often are privy to the reasoning behind the requirements that are not included in the code nor commentary. Anyways, he plainly says that he is not aware of the intent behind that section of code, but was firm in his interpretation.
So I go straight to one of the SMEs on that section of the code and he brings another SME in. They are the two main subject matter experts on this issue and actually write the code. The response from both of them were that my interpretation was correct and the ruling given "was a little silly". I took that as a very polite way of saying that the ruling was :facepalm:
The guy who made the ruling wasn't in the office today, so he hasn't seen the response from the SMEs yet. I can't wait until he reads the response. . .
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How do I resist giving a big ole "Wop Yo Jaws" to a know-it-all coworker?
At work, we are grouped into specific disciplines. Most of our groups run/manage projects whereas some groups are only supports (review and advice on their technical expertise) since they are deemed to "valuable and specialized" to bog them down with managing projects. One of the groups has a signature block that their manager needs to sign in order to get the chief engineer to sign to allow a project to go out for solicitation. This group is notorious for being "I ruled this way, you have to prove I'm wrong to change my mind". In many cases, the code is silent on many things in order to leave things up to designer discretion and judgement. This group takes things as "if the code doesn't explicitly allow it, it's not allowed". Anyways. . .
I'm managing this one large project and my support for the "notorious" group rules something that I feel is pretty unreasonable. His ruling was to incorporate a requirement that is NOT stated in the code based on his interpretation of the code. While not my subject expertise, the way I read the code was that it was silent on it, therefore leaving room for judgement and common sense. Believe me that this ruling was NOT common sense. I asked him what the intent was behind that section of code. As SME for codes, we often are privy to the reasoning behind the requirements that are not included in the code nor commentary. Anyways, he plainly says that he is not aware of the intent behind that section of code, but was firm in his interpretation.
So I go straight to one of the SMEs on that section of the code and he brings another SME in. They are the two main subject matter experts on this issue and actually write the code. The response from both of them were that my interpretation was correct and the ruling given "was a little silly". I took that as a very polite way of saying that the ruling was :facepalm:
The guy who made the ruling wasn't in the office today, so he hasn't seen the response from the SMEs yet. I can't wait until he reads the response. . .
I was in Guam for a Tandem-Thrust joint exercise. Hey, I didn't come up with the name!!
While I was working with the Air Force "Ashore" site, another contract employee for my company was working onboard the Blue Ridge command ship with the Navy "Afloat" team.
Turned out that the version of software loaded at my site was one version behind the version loaded on the ship. The other guy suggested I reinstall ALL MY SERVERS AND CLIENTS to match his version. That would have taken 2 days just to do the loads and configurations not counting troubleshooting any problems we found, like secure communications settings, database changes, etc.
The exercise was supposed to test transferring the air war planning & execution database from the Navy to the Air Force. After doing some critical analysis of my own, I sent him a message that we would not reload. He was furious. I can still remember him on the hard-to-decipher STU phone: "I'm not used to having my technical decisions questioned!"
Long story short, the transition went flawlessly, and we transitioned back a few days later.
He came ashore for the debrief, and found me. He said, "After looking at the mission and not just the technical issues, I realized you were right. If you reloaded everything, there was no guarantee the servers would be ready in time. The worst that could have happened using mismatched versions was the Blue Ridge would need to build their client with the older version, but at least the planning and execution could continue using the ashore system."
From that day on, I was probably one of the few people in the company he really respected.
Hopefully your guy is mature enough to admit he was wrong, and that it's not about being right -- it's about getting the job done right.
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Before you throw someone under the bus, make sure you've got your facts straight.
A "construction specialist" threw me under the bus today by essentially blaming why something wasn't making progress since January. He stated the reason as "the (my position) never provided a proper documentation package needed to proceed". This was after an earlier email where he essentially got called out by his supervisor (two levels up actually) for saying something super stupid that would have made a LOT more work for said supervisor on why they weren't making progress on this issue. He probably thought he could deflect on me. He even essentially threw his "team" under the bus as well in doing so. More on that. . .
Well, I have a bunch of emails where I provided everything I was supposed to. Yes, I could have done a better job at packaging it up "all nice" for him. I sent the information in the Feb to Apr timeframe. Nothing since then until earlier this week (end of Jun) when I get an email asking to verify information HE ALREADY HAD! That's where the stupid comment got him in hot water with his supervisor and tried to throw me under the bus trying to get out. By doing so, he stated that "his whole team was aware of this issue since Jan and haven't been able to get anything from" me. Again, I could have done a better job of packaging it up "all nice" with a bow on top and stuff [sarcasm\]. But the disconnect is in "his team" and essentially brought to light how they actually had the information since Apr and 1) didn't act on it for two months and 2) didn't ask for follow up when he said he did. :facepalm:
I wish some of you could meet this guy. I've only met him a few times in person, but in my unbiased opinion, he's "a little slow". Like you explain something to him in super simple terms and his response is a "uh, whut" with a blank stare.
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SNIP
Hopefully your guy is mature enough to admit he was wrong, and that it's not about being right -- it's about getting the job done right.
He actually ended up escalating it higher in his SME group. But the thing is that this code isn't under their purview, so I'd like to see what their response is.
Anyways, I handed the project off to someone else, so not my problem anymore.
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Uh, whut?
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Uh, whut?
Loosely translated. Need to have a quiet day at the range. Who’s in?
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Mom is with her son in restaurant. She’s paying minimum attention. He’s getting into this, that, while she’s not even watching. She finally notices that he’s in a storage cabinet after ordering and she’s like “Jax, you’re outta control today”. 🙄 Maybe if you paid attention to what he is doing and maybe a little discipline. 🤦♂️
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My mom would carry the wooden spoon in her purse. So if I started acting up or not listening, out came the spoon. I was so conditioned that she didn't even have to use the spoon. Just taking it out was enough for me to stop doing what I was doing.
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My mom would carry the wooden spoon in her purse. So if I started acting up or not listening, out came the spoon. I was so conditioned that she didn't even have to use the spoon. Just taking it out was enough for me to stop doing what I was doing.
If I had a naughty kid like you I would have hit you anyway. LOL.
Today if you spank your kid, they can call the cops and have you arrested for domestic abuse and take away your guns too. That is why we have spoiled teenagers and young adults who feel that the world owes them.
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"hampster"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNssrVX-WKc
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If I had a naughty kid like you I would have hit you anyway. LOL.
Today if you spank your kid, they can call the cops and have you arrested for domestic abuse and take away your guns too. That is why we have spoiled teenagers and young adults who feel that the world owes them.
https://youtu.be/HeWFm0VfXtc
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My mom would carry the wooden spoon in her purse. So if I started acting up or not listening, out came the spoon. I was so conditioned that she didn't even have to use the spoon. Just taking it out was enough for me to stop doing what I was doing.
One of my friend's has a 5 yo girl and 3 yo boy. I've seen now where the spanking is administered and the kid sometimes is like "ahh, that's it. . ." and goes about doing their thing. :o ;D
If I had a naughty kid like you I would have hit you anyway. LOL.
Today if you spank your kid, they can call the cops and have you arrested for domestic abuse and take away your guns too. That is why we have spoiled teenagers and young adults who feel that the world owes them.
It wasn't often that I caught true lickins. However, pain definitely was involved in my discipline growing up. My mom was a 5/6th grade teacher and let me tell you that there was definitely pain involved when I messed up. Sometimes I'd rather the hangar, spoon, ruler, etc than some of the stuff she did to me. But I did learn. . . eventually. :rofl:
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"hampster"
Ohh man. That was so bad, but it made my day. Relatively speaking, I deal with some real tools here, but not quite as bad as that. . .
The whole convincing one's self of their own reality seems to be common these days. And not always with millenials. . . "I know what I know, don't confuse me with the facts". . .
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I'm right at that generation gap for being labeled a millennial. So I work with a guy who's only a few years younger and doesn't know a lot of my references. Like who John Connor is. Or I made an Ed-209 reference. He has never seen the OG Robocop, only the newer one. So I showed him the ED-209 vid in the corporate meeting room and the scene where officer Murphy was blown away. He was amazed that they showed that in the movies cause it's not digital.
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Damn older coworkers. . .
One of my coworkers is an older Chinese guy. Maybe late 60s or early 70s. Anyways, this guy is an eating and farting/burping machine! Not really venting, but more :rofl: I dunno if he thinks folks can't hear, but he farts and burps ALL THE TIME! He eats pretty often as well and he's super loud. I don't think he's hard of hearing. Sometimes, after he's eaten, he'll burp really loudly and I'll say over the partition "What did you say (his name)?". He'll laugh say "excuse me". It doesn't bother me, but damn! ;D
In my previous office, one of my coworkers was an older Chinese guy (coincidence?) who would crop dust the entire office. I think he was 73 when he retired. Anyways, he'd walk down the aisles and tooting along the way! Everyone noticed it, but we all wondered if he knew, or if he even cared. SUPER nice guy and I don't think anyone ever had the heart to tell him. :rofl:
Also in a previous office, there was an older Swiss guy. He was a burper. Super loud burper and sneezer. He knew it too. After a loud burp or sneeze, many times he would say out loud "oh shit!". It was pretty hilarious. I think he was in his early 70s at the time.
It’s funny you wrote this. I am so conscience of these sort of things that I do my best to make sure I don’t fart in the office. Not that I have a problem and do it all the time. But there was a time that field work was slow and I was in the office all day every day. And if I happened to have a fart coming on, I would walk out and leave it outside. The last thing I want is for my office mates to complain about that older coworker that crop dusted the office all the time. :rofl:
Maybe they are glad I am retiring in a few months!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Revisiting this one.
Finally came across a "true" Karen today. A project that I'm deeply involved in is coordinating/consulting with requirements with EPA. The rep is trying to "flex" on pointing out everything that she feels needs to be complied with.
We met virtually, but I've got $20 that I know her hairstyle. . .
:rofl:
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Highly motivated IT. . .
Anyways, I've been approved for a company smart phone. Have approval through my management line, and was told to submit the "formal request" via an online tracking system with our IT. That was almost a month ago and where the due date was about a week after the request.
Now 4 weeks later, I follow up with IT. What's the status. Response is they are awaiting approval. I go into our IT's system and there's no approval notification pending. So I ask the IT person if they can track down who the approval is waiting. Response is "check with your management". So why the eff do we have to submit the request into YOUR system? And if it's waiting approval, shouldn't YOU know where approval lies in YOUR system? How about just a little measure of common sense to work the problem? :grrr:
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Highly motivated IT. . .
Anyways, I've been approved for a company smart phone. Have approval through my management line, and was told to submit the "formal request" via an online tracking system with our IT. That was almost a month ago and where the due date was about a week after the request.
Now 4 weeks later, I follow up with IT. What's the status. Response is they are awaiting approval. I go into our IT's system and there's no approval notification pending. So I ask the IT person if they can track down who the approval is waiting. Response is "check with your management". So why the eff do we have to submit the request into YOUR system? And if it's waiting approval, shouldn't YOU know where approval lies in YOUR system? How about just a little measure of common sense to work the problem? :grrr:
Something I found is prevalent in the military as well as large civilian organizations:
It's easier to get $1M approved and funded than it is to get a $50 item approved and purchased. The small, yet often essential, purchases only affect the individual employee. The big expenditures require higher level approvals (gets put on their radar) and affects the company at a higher level.
So, good luck getting that phone, a new monitor, a bookcase, or a cover for your iPad. I was lucky that my company had the most streamlined process for small expenses. Submit a purchase request with an Amazon (or other vendor) ad showing the specs and cost, get just one manager's approval, and our admin submitted the order. Took days, not a month with no progress.
Whoever let your request sit awaiting approval needs their face slapped. Waiting for someone without letting that someone know you're waiting is about as passive-aggressive as it gets. "Don't blame me. Someone else dropped the ball."
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Whoever let your request sit awaiting approval needs their face slapped. Waiting for someone without letting that someone know you're waiting is about as passive-aggressive as it gets. "Don't blame me. Someone else dropped the ball."
Exactly. It's not like these fuzzers are super busy. I see them walking around, giggling with each other (at least the pack of younger ones that this was assigned to) while three or four of them say setup a laptop for a new employee, check this, or check that.