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General Topics => Off Topic => Topic started by: drck1000 on February 21, 2019, 09:23:23 AM
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Chicago (CNN)Jussie Smollett paid two brothers $3,500 to stage an attack on him last month, taking "advantage of the pain and anger of racism to promote his career," Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson alleged Thursday.
The revelations necessary to charge Smollett came during the 47th hour of a 48-hour holding period for the brothers, who eventually confessed to the alleged plot, Johnson said. Had they waited another hour, the chief said, authorities would have been forced to release them.
"We just didn't have the total package to support that it was a hoax," he said. "This investigation didn't turn in the direction of Mr. Smollett being a defendant until the 47th hour that we had those two individuals in custody."
Investigators have the check Smollett used to pay the men, the chief said. Though Johnson said the payment was $3,500, he also said Smollett agreed to pay the men $500 when they returned from Nigeria. It isn't clear if that sum is included in the $3,500. The brothers' motive for helping was money, Johnson said.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/21/entertainment/jussie-smollett-thursday/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/21/entertainment/jussie-smollett-thursday/index.html)
He paid by check! :crazy: :rofl:
I admit it has been entertaining to read about this blowing up in his face.
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Only American to successfully scam Nigerians.
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Only American to successfully scam Nigerians.
Wish they would release his phone records...
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I would have done a better job for $500.
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This gets even better.
He paid them with a check.
Vid of the 2 in the store buying the supplies
Lawyer claims the Chicago PD planted evidence.
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This gets even better.
He paid them with a check.
Vid of the 2 in the store buying the supplies
Lawyer claims the Chicago PD planted evidence.
The "OJ defense."
Unfortunately, they'll have to establish motive for WHY the police would do that. In the OJ trial, they accused the investigating detective of racism.
Planted evidence? Like video of the two brothers buying the stuff they wore, including ski masks and a red hat? Records of them buying the clothesline? His signature on a check? Total absence of any video evidence showing the suspects he described? His confession that he was angry about his 7-figure salary on the show?
I guess they have to make something up -- why stop now?
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Charles Barkley can't compose himself .... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
https://youtu.be/5EojlDzlnPs
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Only American to successfully scam Nigerians.
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I dunno. Them Nigerians got paid, didn’t they? :D
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:rofl:
I dunno. Them Nigerians got paid, didn’t they? :D
Did the check actually clear? :geekdanc:
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Charles Barkley can't compose himself .... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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I don’t watch NBA much, but those guys are hilarious. Look like they are having so much fun! There’s one video of Kenny pushing Shaq into the Christmas tree. Hilarious. :rofl:
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Did the check actually clear? :geekdanc:
Haha. Maybe not... :(
Dem Nigerians are smat
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This might have been a clever publicity stunt.
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He should have hired some white guys. They probably do it for free.
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He should have hired some white guys. They probably do it for free.
Place an ad outside the "White Guilt" classroom at Berkley ... :geekdanc:
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;D
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This might have been a clever publicity stunt.
Clever? Clever as a felony.
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Jussie and the Chicago Police Superintendant "mash up" ....
https://youtu.be/PHr9HdzvNgc
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He should have hired some white guys. They probably do it for free.
Imagine, someone is so racist, they wont even hire white guys.
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Jussie and the Chicago Police Superintendant "mash up" ....
https://youtu.be/PHr9HdzvNgc
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What great acting! He even threw in a little fake crying.
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What great acting! He even threw in a little fake crying.
If he'd had been holding an emotional support kitten,
I would have liked the interview a lot much more.
These fear mongrels have no place in the US.
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Clever? Clever as a felony.
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Yes, he is either extremely stupid or very clever.
Consider that you don't earn 100k per episode by being extremely stupid, I think he is being clever...like a game of chess.
If you think about it, what is the very worst punishment that a low-level non-violent felon could get? Especially a high paid tv personality.
I'm guessing he will get a slap on the wrist and maybe do some public service. But look at how much face time he is getting in return.
The old adage is always true...."any publicity is good publicity"
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Yes, he is either extremely stupid or very clever.
Consider that you don't earn 100k per episode by being extremely stupid, I think he is being clever...like a game of chess.
If you think about it, what is the very worst punishment that a low-level non-violent felon could get? Especially a high paid tv personality.
I'm guessing he will get a slap on the wrist and maybe do some public service. But look at how much face time he is getting in return.
The old adage is always true...."any publicity is good publicity"
From my reading, the felony disorderly conduct for filing the false report and staging the very public hoax is 1-3 years in prison potentially.
Then there's the federal possibilities. He sent a letter to the studio with white power in it that turned out to be aspirin.
The FBI and USPS are actually investigating possible terrorism charged for that stunt.
There are a broad array of federal criminal statutes that protect the U.S. mail, including mailing threatening
communications, mailing injurious articles, and even a federal “hoax” statute.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/why-charges-against-jussie-smollett-are-considered-felony-n974031
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From my reading, the felony disorderly conduct for filing the false report and staging the very public hoax is 1-3 years in prison potentially.
Then there's the federal possibilities. He sent a letter to the studio with white power in it that turned out to be aspirin.
The FBI and USPS are actually investigating possible terrorism charged for that stunt.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/why-charges-against-jussie-smollett-are-considered-felony-n974031
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of course the possible charges and penalties are stiff, but then there is reality.
I'll take a wild guess and say he gets hearing where the judge gives him a stiff fine and public service.
Why? because it takes real taxpayer money to prosecute the hardcore charges.
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Not so smart when the studio writes you off the show. Thought he wasn’t getting paid enough? How about not getting paid at all and paying the CPD for the expenses of their investigation into this stupid hoax.
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Yes, he is either extremely stupid or very clever.
Consider that you don't earn 100k per episode by being extremely stupid, I think he is being clever...like a game of chess.
If you think about it, what is the very worst punishment that a low-level non-violent felon could get? Especially a high paid tv personality.
I'm guessing he will get a slap on the wrist and maybe do some public service. But look at how much face time he is getting in return.
The old adage is always true...."any publicity is good publicity"
So a celebrity who makes a lot of money can’t be extremely stupid? While maybe Smollett isn’t extremely stupid, but I am pretty sure this isn’t playing out how he thought nor is he playing some sort of elaborate long game. Playing chess? He sacrificed his queen to a couple of Nigerian pawns and the gambit failed. Miserably. And I’m enjoying seeing it blow up in his face.
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People will forget about this scam but will remember the fake details of it.
MAGA anti-gay Trump supporters attacked a gay actor.
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So a celebrity who makes a lot of money can’t be extremely stupid? While maybe Smollett isn’t extremely stupid, but I am pretty sure this isn’t playing out how he thought nor is he playing some sort of elaborate long game. Playing chess? He sacrificed his queen to a couple of Nigerian pawns and the gambit failed. Miserably. And I’m enjoying seeing it blow up in his face.
Sometimes it's not about intelligence. Narcissism, arrogance, living in a make-believe career, blinding anger ..... lots of conditions can combine to guide people who are otherwise relatively smart to make really stupid decisions.
Then there are the possible outside influencers: Kamala Harris, Corey Booker, the entire cast of The View, the Main Stream Media, all his Liberal/Gay buddies buying the lies that Trump hates Gays, etc, etc.
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Sometimes it's not about intelligence. Narcissism, arrogance, living in a make-believe career, blinding anger ..... lots of conditions can combine to guide people who are otherwise relatively smart to make really stupid decisions.
Then there are the possible outside influencers: Kamala Harris, Corey Booker, the entire cast of The View, the Main Stream Media, all his Liberal/Gay buddies buying the lies that Trump hates Gays, etc, etc.
Yeah. Copy. My point what that we see stories of otherwise wealthy or successful people, many celebrities, doing stupid things daily.
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People will forget about this scam but will remember the fake details of it.
MAGA anti-gay Trump supporters attacked a gay actor.
And supposedly a somewhat influential and central character in the series that many in the LGBT community saw as their champion and role model. I have never watched an episode, but had read that from more than a few sources.
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And supposedly a somewhat influential and central character in the series that many in the LGBT community saw as their champion and role model. I have never watched an episode, but had read that from more than a few sources.
The same people who applauded Ellen Degeneres and "Will and Grace" as edgy and ground-breaking say the same thing anytime an LGBT actor gets to play an LGBT character on TV.
I remember what a major departure it was when black actors began staring in TV shows. Now, not a biggie. Someday, the press will stop placing certain groups on pedestals for doing the things many before have done for decades.
"She's the first White bio-male identifying as a black transgender lesbian woman to play a white gay man on TV."
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Just watched the TNT bit with Barkley again and just saw the part where they wrote a check to “Mugger” for $3500 and for “Mugging supplies”. :rofl:
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Just watched the TNT bit with Barkley again and just saw the part where they wrote a check to “Mugger” for $3500 and for “Mugging supplies”. :rofl:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZJ1Pbot.png?1)
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TMZ is now reporting that the payment was for personal training, which the 2 brothers do.
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TMZ is now reporting that the payment was for personal training, which the 2 brothers do.
Yup. Saw that mentioned in some other coverage, including FoxNews.
Chicago police say they have more evidence Jussie Smollett staged hate crime
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/chicago-police-theres-more-evidence-jussie-smollett-staged-hate-crime (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/chicago-police-theres-more-evidence-jussie-smollett-staged-hate-crime)
There seems to be a LOT of evidence against Smollett, and seems like only a portion of that has been made public. Will be interesting to see what other defenses his legal team tries to make.
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TMZ is now reporting that the payment was for personal training, which the 2 brothers do.
If the 2 brothers said the payment was for a hoax, you have to ask, "why would they lie?"
I mean, if the money was not for the attack, why say it was? Are they framing him?
They also said he gave them a $100 bill to pay for the items they bought for the attack -- masks, jackets, hats, clothesline, bleach, etc.
Makes no sense. Jussie has to be lying -- which he has a history of doing (gave police his brother's ID when arrested for DUI).
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If the 2 brothers said the payment was for a hoax, you have to ask, "why would they lie?"
I mean, if the money was not for the attack, why say it was? Are they framing him?
They also said he gave them a $100 bill to pay for the items they bought for the attack -- masks, jackets, hats, clothesline, bleach, etc.
Makes no sense. Jussie has to be lying -- which he has a history of doing (gave police his brother's ID when arrested for DUI).
I agree with you and think smollet is full of shit. If they were getting paid that much to train him, they had better access to him. Why beat him up in public?
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I agree with you and think smollet is full of shit. If they were getting paid that much to train him, they had better access to him. Why beat him up in public?
Yep. The Chicago Police Superintendent was on the news again. He said there is more physical evidence, video evidence and witness testimony that hasn't been made public, and it's all bad for Jussie.
For Jussie or his lawyers to claim the police framed him is ludicrous. They have no motive. In fact, Chicago is Obama-town. If the Chicago Police were going to frame anyone, it would have been the two MAGA hat-wearing, clothesline noose tying, bleach-splashing, can't hold down one skinny guy between the two of them, homophobic Trump supporters.
I'm waiting to see how much of a fictitious story Jussie and his lawyers can concoct. This is starting to sound like the sequel to "What Happened." :rofl:
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Latest news: The series Smollett stars in, "Empire", has been renewed for one FINAL season: Season 6. It will likely begin airing in Sept 2019, and contain the same 18 episodes as previous full seasons.
Smollett's character has reportedly not been included in the script, but that can always change.
He's still in legal trouble with Chicago demanding restitution for the false report costs to investigate, as well as the potential corruption allegations toward the state attorney who intervened in the decision after he was indicted.
As usual, the wheels of justice turn slowly when a Liberal icon stands accused -- long enough for other news to displace the story to steal the spotlight.
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I haven't been following this one very much, but I thought I heard his character was coming back. Or maybe it was his character wasn't going to get written out as soon as speculated had the legal stuff turned south for him. Anyways, I remember thinking how funny it would be for the show to bring him back and have then have his character get mugged. ;D
They wouldn't be so meen to him though. . . :(
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Shortly after they cops found the 2 brothers, the producers said his character will be written off. This is also prior to the video of them buying the supplies. So I think the producers didn't want him back because it would open a can of worms. I never watched the show so IDK how important he was to the story line.
He is still maintaining his story, but I think the atty is being looked into. IIRC, he hired Avenatie's atty also. Who was also busted.
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Shortly after they cops found the 2 brothers, the producers said his character will be written off. This is also prior to the video of them buying the supplies. So I think the producers didn't want him back because it would open a can of worms. I never watched the show so IDK how important he was to the story line.
He is still maintaining his story, but I think the atty is being looked into. IIRC, he hired Avenatie's atty also. Who was also busted.
I don't watch, but I read his character was married and went off on a long honeymoon. So, not permanently written out of the story. He can be "absent" until the show decides whether they want him back.
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Empire is dead now anyways...
‘Empire’ To End After Upcoming Season 6; Still “No Plans” For Jussie Smollett Return
https://deadline.com/2019/05/empire-canceled-jussie-smollett-scandal-fox-upfronts-lee-daniels-1202613350/
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Empire is dead now anyways...
Hope I did not miss anything. :geekdanc:
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Jussie Smollett's case to proceed in Chicago: federal judge
A federal judge ruled on Tuesday that the lawsuit against actor Jussie Smollett will not be dismissed.
The suit asks that Smollett reimburse the police department the $130,000 spent on investigating his alleged attack, which he asked to be dismissed because he couldn't have known how much time and money was spent on the investigation.
With the appointment of the special prosecutor, there remains the possibility that Smollett -- who has maintained his innocence -- could be charged again with staging the attack.
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jussie-smollett-case-to-proceed-in-chicago-federal-judge (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jussie-smollett-case-to-proceed-in-chicago-federal-judge)
Hope he doesn't beat himself up about it. . .
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Jussie Smollett's case to proceed in Chicago: federal judge
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jussie-smollett-case-to-proceed-in-chicago-federal-judge (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jussie-smollett-case-to-proceed-in-chicago-federal-judge)
Hope he doesn't beat himself up about it. . .
We can only cross our fingers and hope. He really needs to be held accountable for this.
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We can only cross our fingers and hope. He really needs to be held accountable for this.
He won't because of who he's friends with. It's all for show.
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Held accountable, yeah, I also hope so. Realistic? Doubtful. Even if he loses the suit and has to pay $130k, meh. I bet he even benefits from this in may way in the future. So many will forget the details, he'll stay out of spotlight for a while (already happening) and he'll come back with some issue. Similar with Kap. . .
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Held accountable, yeah, I also hope so. Realistic? Doubtful. Even if he loses the suit and has to pay $130k, meh. I bet he even benefits from this in may way in the future. So many will forget the details, he'll stay out of spotlight for a while (already happening) and he'll come back with some issue. Similar with Kap. . .
Like be a speaker at fake liberal rallies and make way more money doing that than their original jobs...
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Like be a speaker at fake liberal rallies and make way more money doing that than their original jobs...
Yeah, like that. Or be a champion for the fake downtrodden. . . The face of a distraction movement. . .
I do very much believe in karma/bachi. While I wouldn't wish death on him or anything, if he eventually was mugged, then. . .
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He won't because of who he's friends with. It's all for show.
His friends in the prosecutor's office may have helped him with the criminal charge but they can't help him with a civil case. He is going to have to have more friends.
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With the appointment of the special prosecutor, there remains the possibility that Smollett -- who has maintained his innocence -- could be charged again with staging the attack.
Well, will his “friends” help with the special prosecutor?
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His friends in the prosecutor's office may have helped him with the criminal charge but they can't help him with a civil case. He is going to have to have more friends.
He does and they will help. I know who his "friends" are, not just in the prosecutor's office.
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He does and they will help. I know who his "friends" are, not just in the prosecutor's office.
Have to resort to character assassination then.
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Jussie Smollett sues city of Chicago for malicious prosecution
Jussie Smollett says the $10,000 he was mandated to pay after the criminal case against him was closed should prevent the city of Chicago from seeking reimbursement for the police investigation following his claim, back in January 2019, that he was a victim of a racist and homophobic attack.
Attorneys for the former "Empire" actor filed a response Tuesday to Chicago’s lawsuit in federal court. They also filed a counterclaim against the city, saying Smollett was the victim of a malicious prosecution that caused humiliation and extreme distress.
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jussie-smollett-chicago-malicious-prosecution (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jussie-smollett-chicago-malicious-prosecution)
He and Kap should just crawl back to their holes. . . Now that reasonable and rational people see them for who they really are, it's not about talent, discrimination, whatever.
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https://babylonbee.com/news/jussie-smollett-offered-job-at-cnn-after-fabricating-news-story-out-of-thin-air
Jussie Smollett Offered Job At CNN After Fabricating News Story Out Of Thin Air
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https://babylonbee.com/news/jussie-smollett-offered-job-at-cnn-after-fabricating-news-story-out-of-thin-air
Jussie Smollett Offered Job At CNN After Fabricating News Story Out Of Thin Air
fake news....for now....
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fake news....for now....
Not sure if serious. But just in case... is satire...
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/jussie-smollett-indicted-over-false-hate-crime-attack-by-special-prosecutor-ex-empire-star-back-to-court/ar-BBZTKVp?ocid=spartanntp
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That's what happens when your friends are no longer in high places.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/jussie-smollett-indicted-over-false-hate-crime-attack-by-special-prosecutor-ex-empire-star-back-to-court/ar-BBZTKVp?ocid=spartanntp
Good. Hope he goes to jail and is fined, a LOT. Don't need that sort of stuff that came to the forefront with Obama. . .
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Good. Hope he goes to jail and is fined, a LOT. Don't need that sort of stuff that came to the forefront with Obama. . .
On top of that, I hope the former State Prosecutor who bungled this whole mess and dropped the charges is also held accountable for criminal misconduct.
Trump was just put on trial for corruption. How many corrupt Dems have we seen abuse their offices only to write a book and give lectures? :wtf:
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1) On top of that, I hope the former State Prosecutor who bungled this whole mess and dropped the charges is also held accountable for criminal misconduct.
Trump was just put on trial for corruption. 2) How many corrupt Dems have we seen abuse their offices only to write a book and give lectures? :wtf:
1) I hadn't heard that, but good to hear it. Accountability
2) I can think of a few :hmm: With further corruption investigations on-going, hopefully as the list grows, they'll be writing their books from prison. :grrr:
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How many corrupt Dems have we seen abuse their offices only to write a book and give lectures? :wtf:
Shhhhh, that's the back channel payment scheme. Look at the common core math scheme. Barry was paid big time by the book company who implemented it for his "book deal".
There was a recent study because common core students who learned only via this method were found dumber than those who learned the OG method and switched to common core mid schooling.
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noble hoax
https://www.thewrap.com/real-amanda-seales-jussie-smollett-attack-noble-hoax/
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Have heard that a lot of homos are into S&M and indeed do pay to get beat up.
Once busted, Smellit should have just said it went wrong and walked away.
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Have heard that a lot of homos are into S&M and indeed do pay to get beat up.
Once busted, Smellit should have just said it went wrong and walked away.
Bloomberg paid almost half a BILLION dollars to be beat up on national TV last night.
So, yeah .... :rofl: