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General Topics => Legal and Activism => Topic started by: macsak on March 03, 2019, 07:55:42 PM

Title: examples of gut and replace
Post by: macsak on March 03, 2019, 07:55:42 PM

this is perfectly legal, and something we need to be aware of and watch out for

https://www.civilbeat.org/2019/03/gut-and-replace-resurfaces-at-hawaii-legislature/

Title: Re: examples of gut and replace
Post by: rpoL98 on March 03, 2019, 11:28:22 PM

from the linked article: “Gut-and-replace may be useful at times, but basic democratic principles including public involvement and fair process are more important by far,” Sen. Russell Ruderman told Civil Beat last month.

oh really?  Try telling that to Karl Rhoads.

Title: Re: examples of gut and replace
Post by: oldfart on March 04, 2019, 12:56:20 AM

Aka
"Bait and switch"
Aka...fraud

http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=29

Title: Re: examples of gut and replace
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 04, 2019, 01:13:45 AM

Isnt this like how the atf amended the full auto definition? (Bump stock)

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Title: Re: examples of gut and replace
Post by: RSN172 on March 04, 2019, 08:40:44 AM

Evil politicians should be gutted and replaced.

Title: Re: examples of gut and replace
Post by: punaperson on March 04, 2019, 08:58:59 AM

Quote from: RSN172 on March 04, 2019, 08:40:44 AM

Evil politicians should be gutted and replaced.

After "due process" of course.

Or can we enact a "red flag"/ERPO law that will accomplish this based upon "credible evidence" of someone witnessing the unlawful acts?

Title: Re: examples of gut and replace
Post by: rpoL98 on March 04, 2019, 04:15:31 PM

I would like to think that once upon a time, Mr. Donovan DelaCruz was an honest man, a fair man.  but gee whiz, as they say, "power corrupts".  my, how he has strayed from those humble origins, if he once was ...

or maybe he was always a con-man and a fraud?  and now he has an unlimited license to defraud Hawaii's citizens, ultimate power.  I would rather that the legislator had a DUI than stoop to such fraudulent depths.  What's with these guys?  is there something in their water that makes them go all Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde?  can't say that the folks in Washington are any better, either.

Uphold The Constitution?  they have no idea WTF that even means anymore.
 :wacko:

Title: Re: examples of gut and replace
Post by: macsak on March 04, 2019, 04:28:30 PM

Quote from: rpoL98 on March 04, 2019, 04:15:31 PM

I would like to think that once upon a time, Mr. Donovan DelaCruz was an honest man, a fair man.  but gee whiz, as they say, "power corrupts".  my, how he has strayed from those humble origins, if he once was ...

or maybe he was always a con-man and a fraud?  and now he has an unlimited license to defraud Hawaii's citizens, ultimate power.  I would rather that the legislator had a DUI than stoop to such fraudulent depths.  What's with these guys?  is there something in their water that makes them go all Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde?  can't say that the folks in Washington are any better, either.

Uphold The Constitution?  they have no idea WTF that even means anymore.
 :wacko:

gut and replace is legal and constitutional...

Title: Re: examples of gut and replace
Post by: punaperson on March 05, 2019, 07:43:29 AM

Quote from: macsak on March 04, 2019, 04:28:30 PM

gut and replace is legal and constitutional...

If you think people in black robes sitting on an elevated dais can dictate what is and isn't "constitutional" (or more accurately, "inherent natural rights protected by the constitution") you might as well pack it in now.