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General Topics => Legal and Activism => Topic started by: London808 on April 30, 2019, 10:11:08 PM
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Honolulu, Hawaii – Local gun rights group Hawaii Firearms Coalition in an attempt to seek clarification on the State of Hawaii's use of the FBI Rap Back service submitted a Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) request seeking documents under the control of the FBI. The FBI failed to respond to the request in the legally allotted time.
In 2016, Governor Ige signed SB 2954 into law. The law authorizes people who register firearms in Hawaii to be entered in the FBI’s Rap Back service database. People who register firearms in the county where they live will have their fingerprints retained and entered into the Rap Back service.
Per the FBI, “The Rap Back service allows authorized agencies to receive notification of activity on individuals who hold positions of trust (e.g. school teachers, daycare workers) or who are under criminal justice supervision or investigation, thus eliminating the need for repeated background checks on a person from the same applicant agency. “ “The fingerprints enrolled in the Rap Back Service are continuously searched by and against criminal (including latent) and non-criminal justice fingerprints subsequently submitted to NGI.”
It was brought to Hawaii Firearms Coalition's attention during this year's legislative session that not one single firearms owner has been entered into the service. However, for more than two years, the state has been requiring firearm owners to sign a wavier (of their constitutional rights) and collect the fees associated with the FBI Rap Back service.
Hawaii Firearms Coalition is seeking clarification from the FBI over the state's attempted use of the service. To do so, they requested copies of all communications and policies shared between the state and the FBI regarding Rap Back and the state's use of it for firearms owners. Additionally, they requested copies of any and all receipts for payments from the state to the FBI in relation to firearms and the Rap Back service.
Federal law requires that the FBI respond to all FOIA requests within 20 days of submission. The FBI has, in this case, failed to respond. Thus, on behalf of the Hawaii Firearms Coalition, Stephen D. Stamboulieh, Attorney at Law, filed to sue the FBI in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia.
Hawaii Firearms Coalition is hoping to show Hawaii's attempted use of the Rap Back service for firearms owners: 1)violates the FBI's policy's regarding the Rap Back service, 2) violates federal laws, 3) infringed on the constitutional rights of firearms owners, and 4) the FBI is denying the state's use of the Rap Back service due to these attempted violations.
The State of Hawaii needs to stop treating the Second Amendment like a second class right and start treating those that own or wish to own firearms as the law abiding people that they are.
Hawaii Firearms Coalition is a 501(c)(4) organization, founded to protect and unify Hawaii’s firearms owners and those that believe in the constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms.
Links : https://hifico.org/
https://hifico.org/foia-complaint/
https://www.fbi.gov/…/cjis/fingerprints-and-other-biome…/ngi
https://www.fbi.gov/file-…/pia-ngi-rap-back-service.pdf/view
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Love it :thumbsup: :geekdanc: :shaka: :worship: :D
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Love it :thumbsup: :geekdanc: :shaka: :worship: :D
Ditto!
PS Can you ask Stamboulieh to file articles of treason along with that?
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Glad I joined! :thumbsup:
And I'm also glad you haven't solicited LifeLock, car rental, more money for a lobbying branch and shooting DVDs
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PLEASE JOIN HIFICO HELP THEM HELP YOU!
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You guys are heroes. Joining HiFiCo is like having my own personal 2A terrier chasing down the HI gun grabber rabbit.
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holy poop! you guys go!
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For those that are not counting this means we have 4 lawsuits open that HIFICO (and/or its directors) are involved in directly and 2 more that we’re indirectly involved in.
Roberts v city and county of Honolulu
Roberts v Ballard
Roberts v Conners
HIFICO v FBI
Young v Hawaii
Tetter v Conners
And that doesn’t include other stuff we have In he work.
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Did they give any reason why they refused the FOIA request?
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Love it :thumbsup: :geekdanc: :shaka: :worship: :D
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Did they give any reason why they refused the FOIA request?
I'm guessing that Hawaii never submitted any docs to put anyone in it. So as far as the FBI is concerned, they have no idea what's going on.
London,
For the lawsuits you listed, can you put a quick 1 sentence of what each is about?
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Did they give any reason why they refused the FOIA request?
Nope, they did not respond at all.
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London,
For the lawsuits you listed, can you put a quick 1 sentence of what each is about?
Immigration firearms ownership, is now with the 9th circuit over lawyers pay.
Tasers
Immigration Carry permits
NO response to a FOIA request
Open carry
Ban on butterfly knifes
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:thumbsup: :shaka: :love: :worship:
Keep rocking their world!!!!
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The question is where does the next rock get thrown.
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If HIFICO prevails will you be able to recover court costs and fees?
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If HIFICO prevails will you be able to recover court costs and fees?
When we prevail, yes
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Let's put another shrimp on the Barbie :thumbsup:
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Let's put another shrimp on the Barbie :thumbsup:
#notaustralian
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save the Queen!
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Let's put another shrimp on the Barbie :thumbsup:
#notaustralian
Really? I thought London was the capital of Australia...
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The question is where does the next rock get thrown.
Registration?
Permits to acquire?
Handgun magazine capacity limitation?
Ban on BATFE legal "firearms" (e.g. Mossberg 590 Raptor, etc.)
Post-Young: Carry licensing.
I suspect there are legal precedents that might make such litigation nearly impossible to succeed in the progressive paradise of Hawaii and the Ninth Circuit, but those are at the top of my list of obviously unconstitutional infringements of this bullshit statist tyrannical hellhole.
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If I get my RAPBACK fee back, I'll donate it to HIFICO.
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This is the kind of stuff you try to argue with anti-gun people.
"We need more gun laws!"
"well, in Hawaii they charged an extra fee to register all gun owners with the FBI since the federal government is barred from registering gun owners and instead of doing that, they just pocketed the fee instead. It didnt improve safety and just demonstrated the corruption or incompetence that goes along with more gun laws. Now they wont give the money back. I oppose stupid and corrupt politicians."
Their response: "...." *thinking* "...." "we need more gun laws!"
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This is the find of stuff you try to argue with anti-gun people.
"We need more gun laws!"
"well, in Hawaii they charged an extra fee to register all gun owners with the FBI since the federal government is barred from registering gun owners and instead of doing that, they just pocketed the fee instead. It didnt improve safety and just demonstrated the corruption or incompetence that goes along with more gun laws. Now they wont give the money back. I oppose stupid and corrupt politicians."
Their response: "...." *thinking* "...." "we need more gun laws!"
Stealing and using this
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I see guys got some ink at Ammoland.com
https://www.ammoland.com/2019/05/hawaii-gun-group-sues-fbi-to-obtain-state-rap-back-data/#axzz5nB0K95Py
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Registration?
Permits to acquire?
Handgun magazine capacity limitation?
Ban on BATFE legal "firearms" (e.g. Mossberg 590 Raptor, etc.)
Post-Young: Carry licensing.
I suspect there are legal precedents that might make such litigation nearly impossible to succeed in the progressive paradise of Hawaii and the Ninth Circuit, but those are at the top of my list of obviously unconstitutional infringements of this bullshit statist tyrannical hellhole.
Just need one more pro-2a SCOTUS judge to seal the deal. Trump better win this election.