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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Teichi on July 05, 2019, 04:27:47 PM

Title: Gun Case Lock Hack
Post by: Teichi on July 05, 2019, 04:27:47 PM
My locks were loosening up on my Hardigg Case. I used some nuts as spacers.
Title: Re: Gun Case Lock Hack
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 05, 2019, 05:33:10 PM
TSA will now be suspicious about why you're trying to prevent them from cutting your locks.   :geekdanc:
Title: Re: Gun Case Lock Hack
Post by: oldfart on July 06, 2019, 06:48:35 AM
what problem does this solve?
Title: Re: Gun Case Lock Hack
Post by: Teichi on July 06, 2019, 09:41:16 AM
what problem does this solve?
The gap that ticket agent wiggle their fingers in and reject your gun case from flying.
Title: Re: Gun Case Lock Hack
Post by: zippz on July 06, 2019, 11:30:28 AM
Had a problem like that with my pistol case and noticed it on the way to the airport.  I swivelled my locks horizontal to tighten it, but agent never check.  I'll try this next time.
Title: Re: Gun Case Lock Hack
Post by: oldfart on July 06, 2019, 11:31:31 AM
The gap that ticket agent wiggle their fingers in and reject your gun case from flying.
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It would be cool to design a gun case like those Chinese finger traps. :rofl:
Title: Re: Gun Case Lock Hack
Post by: Heavies on July 09, 2019, 09:17:44 PM
My locks were loosening up on my Hardigg Case. I used some nuts as spacers.
are those combo locks?
Title: Re: Gun Case Lock Hack
Post by: Teichi on July 09, 2019, 11:59:45 PM
Master combination locks.
Title: Re: Gun Case Lock Hack
Post by: Heavies on July 10, 2019, 08:25:25 AM
Master combination locks.
Might want to consider something different. These can be bypassed in less than a second.
Title: Re: Gun Case Lock Hack
Post by: yurcarmeean on July 10, 2019, 03:23:29 PM
The gap that ticket agent wiggle their fingers in and reject your gun case from flying.

I recently traveled with my shotgun from HNL to Hilo on Hawaiian Airlines, here is my experience. 
I followed the instructions on TSA and Hawaiian Airlines website:  hardcase 2 short padlocks and 1 long 3 inch padlock, declared it at ticket counter

I had no issue leaving HNL airport:  ticket agent did not request to see firearm,  i hardly had to open the case, only to slip in the orange declaration card in.

HOWEVER, when I flew out of Hilo back to HNL,  the ticket agents there said they could not let the case fly if they could shove their hand inside.  They proceeded to unclasp the hasps, pry it open, and shove their hand inside my case with the 3 locks on.  They said they could not let the case fly due to this AND due to the case having 6 lockholes, that each lock hole MUST have a lock on it.  My flight was leaving in 50 minutes and i still had to get through the TSA checkpoint (thankfully it was a shortline,  this is Hilo we are talking about   ^-^ )  Soooooo..... I had to go into the terminal buy 4 cheaply made but TSA approved luggage lock at $12 each, go back out to the ticket counter, place the 6 locks on.   After all this running back and forth and elevated  blood pressure levels,  they said wait at the counter,  they took my case to the back room, where I assume a TSA agent, opened all the locks and checked my firearm.  They brought the case back out and 1 of the locks was BUSTED!  They broke 1 of the locks.  But said it was OK to fly!   :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :shake: :shake: :shake:   Not to mention i dont know who touched my case or what they may  or may not have put in my case,  they could have put drugs in there for all I know. 

I assume Hilo's Hawaiian Airlines staff has had issue with employees shoving their hands into places they should not be and taking things they should not be taking.  Even still no where on their website does it state any of this.   :wacko:  and if so why didn't the staff at Oahu''s airport go through the same safety precautions of having locks on all lockholes and ensuring a hand could not fit through the cracks?

Anybody have a similar experience?  what happened?  what airline?    They didnt even weigh my ammo to see if it was under 11lbs.
Title: Re: Gun Case Lock Hack
Post by: yurcarmeean on July 10, 2019, 03:24:46 PM
P.S.  if anyone really wanted to steal my firearm from the case,  all they would need is a pair or wire cutters or tin snips to cut the plastic lockholes and release the padlocks,  its not that hard....
Title: Re: Gun Case Lock Hack
Post by: drck1000 on July 10, 2019, 03:49:49 PM
P.S.  if anyone really wanted to steal my firearm from the case,  all they would need is a pair or wire cutters or tin snips to cut the plastic lockholes and release the padlocks,  its not that hard....
Sorry you had to go thru that. Stinks...

I’ve had United and Hawaiian agents do the “see if I can pry open the case” test before. I don’t recall which airport though.

Hawaiian mentions that any case that maybe pried open may be denied in their “custhelp” section.

I’ve seen some pretty flimsy cases in the baggage claim areas, so they had made the flight. I’m talking the standard Plano type or even the ones that come with many rifles.
Title: Re: Gun Case Lock Hack
Post by: mauiboi9 on July 18, 2019, 01:36:18 AM
I recently traveled with my shotgun from HNL to Hilo on Hawaiian Airlines, here is my experience. 
I followed the instructions on TSA and Hawaiian Airlines website:  hardcase 2 short padlocks and 1 long 3 inch padlock, declared it at ticket counter

I had no issue leaving HNL airport:  ticket agent did not request to see firearm,  i hardly had to open the case, only to slip in the orange declaration card in.

HOWEVER, when I flew out of Hilo back to HNL,  the ticket agents there said they could not let the case fly if they could shove their hand inside.  They proceeded to unclasp the hasps, pry it open, and shove their hand inside my case with the 3 locks on.  They said they could not let the case fly due to this AND due to the case having 6 lockholes, that each lock hole MUST have a lock on it.  My flight was leaving in 50 minutes and i still had to get through the TSA checkpoint (thankfully it was a shortline,  this is Hilo we are talking about   ^-^ )  Soooooo..... I had to go into the terminal buy 4 cheaply made but TSA approved luggage lock at $12 each, go back out to the ticket counter, place the 6 locks on.   After all this running back and forth and elevated  blood pressure levels,  they said wait at the counter,  they took my case to the back room, where I assume a TSA agent, opened all the locks and checked my firearm.  They brought the case back out and 1 of the locks was BUSTED!  They broke 1 of the locks.  But said it was OK to fly!   :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :shake: :shake: :shake:   Not to mention i dont know who touched my case or what they may  or may not have put in my case,  they could have put drugs in there for all I know. 

I assume Hilo's Hawaiian Airlines staff has had issue with employees shoving their hands into places they should not be and taking things they should not be taking.  Even still no where on their website does it state any of this.   :wacko:  and if so why didn't the staff at Oahu''s airport go through the same safety precautions of having locks on all lockholes and ensuring a hand could not fit through the cracks?

Anybody have a similar experience?  what happened?  what airline?    They didnt even weigh my ammo to see if it was under 11lbs.

This feels like its a case by case situation. Ive never had a Hawaiian airlines agent questions a case I used during transportation. From cheap Plano cases to pelican cases. Never went through Ito or koa. But back and forth from ogg and hnl. The ammunition I did transport they had me take it out and weigh it some times. If it was just a box or two they didn't.
Title: Re: Gun Case Lock Hack
Post by: Teichi on July 18, 2019, 12:54:53 PM
The TSA is now ziptying cases closed. My case arrived in HNL looking like this.
Title: Re: Gun Case Lock Hack
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 18, 2019, 01:06:50 PM
The TSA is now ziptying cases closed. My case arrived in HNL looking like this.

That was the big idea they concocted after the crazy guy in FL claimed his baggage, went to the restroom, and came out shooting.

I'm sure zip ties are going to stop that from happening.   :wacko:  If I wanted a blade to open my gun case, I'd put one in my checked bag -- perfectly legit way to fly with things I can't have in my carry-on. 

Maybe they should start zip-tying all your luggage?   :thumbsup: