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Title: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: GlockNewb on August 05, 2019, 03:01:03 PM
https://youtu.be/VBOoGBmD7EM

Been following his videos for over a year now, and he’s been right on most things up to this point, like dominoes falling over. The rhetoric from both sides, most especially the far left, is contributing to it.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: macsak on August 05, 2019, 03:02:51 PM
interesting thing is, he hates trump and is a moderate, yet the MSM and youtube think he's right wing and are demonetizing his channel
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: groveler on August 05, 2019, 03:10:41 PM
https://youtu.be/VBOoGBmD7EM

Been following his videos for over a year now, and he’s been right on most things up to this point, like dominoes falling over. The rhetoric from both sides, most especially the far left, is contributing to it.
The Dayton guy killed his "Coal burner" sister and six black people.
It seems pretty simple to me.
Like Moslem honor killings you never hear about.
It is a sick family thing.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: hvybarrels on August 05, 2019, 06:16:13 PM
What will really set it off is when the US defaults on the giant mountain of debt we have accumulated with the Forever Wars. We already have too many forks and not enough pork as far as the federal budget is concerned, and pretty much all that is holding the Union together is the ability of politicians to steal tax money from each others constituents. When that dries up things will get medieval pretty quick.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: RSN172 on August 05, 2019, 06:49:35 PM
If every man, woman and child can just come up with $66,866, our national debt will be paid off.  Should be no problem, right?
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: Kuleana on August 05, 2019, 08:17:07 PM
What will really set it off is when the US defaults on the giant mountain of debt we have accumulated with the Forever Wars. We already have too many forks and not enough pork as far as the federal budget is concerned, and pretty much all that is holding the Union together is the ability of politicians to steal tax money from each others constituents. When that dries up things will get medieval pretty quick.

Great analysis!

Isn't that what happens to all empires?  If and when China and Russia decide to dump the US Dollar and begins the panic, the USA will automatically default on all of its debt and its nation state status will be no more, overnight.

I guess we Hawaiians will just have to be patient a little while longer, as we might get our nation back sooner than everyone thinks.      :thumbsup:

Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: omnigun on August 05, 2019, 08:57:04 PM
Great analysis!

Isn't that what happens to all empires?  If and when China and Russia decide to dump the US Dollar and begins the panic, the USA will automatically default on all of its debt and its nation state status will be no more, overnight.

I guess we Hawaiians will just have to be patient a little while longer, as we might get our nation back sooner than everyone thinks.      :thumbsup:


Even if somehow this happens (which it wont) you would still have to defeat the remains of USA in hawaii....
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: Kuleana on August 05, 2019, 09:02:57 PM
Even if somehow this happens (which it wont) you would still have to defeat the remains of USA in hawaii....

If you mean defeating the liberal gun grabbers and the highly corrupt Democratic Party that controlled here, that does not sound so hard.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: mrgaf on August 05, 2019, 09:08:14 PM
If you mean defeating the liberal gun grabbers and the highly corrupt Democratic Party that controlled here, that does not sound so hard.

I doubt that’s what he’s referring to.....
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: omnigun on August 05, 2019, 09:20:26 PM
I doubt that’s what he’s referring to.....
If you mean defeating the liberal gun grabbers and the highly corrupt Democratic Party that controlled here, that does not sound so hard.

Its true....if you haven't noticed we are one of the main USA military bases.  Also most conservatives here are probably highly patriotic and pro american and heavily armed. 
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: ren on August 05, 2019, 09:38:43 PM
it would be extremely difficult to remove ICBMs from silos on Oahu. One does not just walk in with a shopping cart.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: ren on August 05, 2019, 09:39:39 PM
If you mean defeating the liberal gun grabbers and the highly corrupt Democratic Party that controlled here, that does not sound so hard.

true. Just make a base on Mauna Kea.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: punaperson on August 05, 2019, 09:43:57 PM
If you mean defeating the liberal gun grabbers and the highly corrupt Democratic Party that controlled here, that does not sound so hard.
You won't have to "defeat" the libtard Democrats. They'll be slithering on their bellies kissing your feet, just like they are at Mauna Kea right now.

The more "conservative" types however will be inclined to sling lead your way as you come to inform that everything they thought they owned now belongs to the superstitious racists.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: macsak on August 05, 2019, 09:45:42 PM
Also most conservatives here are probably highly patriotic and pro american and heavily armed.

if Kuleana has seen you shoot, he probably isn't that worried
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: Kuleana on August 06, 2019, 07:59:19 AM
Its true....if you haven't noticed we are one of the main USA military bases.  Also most conservatives here are probably highly patriotic and pro american and heavily armed.

If an economic collapse happens and the rule of law breaks down, the US military stationed here with family on the continental US will have defending the union on the bottom their mind.  If I were them, my top priority is to get off this rock and get back to my home state to defend my family from all the would-be rioters, looters, rapists, and other criminal deviants that you can bet will be on the loose.  Remember, there is no law enforcement in this situation.  I would even go so far to say many US naval ships stationed here will even be commandeered by those same servicemen to get back home.

As for the non-military conservative elements living in Hawaii, they may be a very heavily armed group, but heavily outnumbered with no chance of resupply or support from anyone else on this liberal island or elsewhere.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: RSN172 on August 06, 2019, 09:24:15 AM


As for the non-military conservative elements living in Hawaii, they may be a very heavily armed group, but heavily outnumbered with no chance of resupply or support from anyone else on this liberal island or elsewhere.

A small heavily armed group can easily control a huge unarmed or lightly armed group.  Many guys here have a stockpile of well over 10,000 rounds of ammo.  As these active shooter videos show, it doesn't take much ammo to put unarmed people in a panic and running for their lives.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: Kuleana on August 06, 2019, 09:33:42 AM
A small heavily armed group can easily control a huge unarmed or lightly armed group.  Many guys here have a stockpile of well over 10,000 rounds of ammo.  As these active shooter videos show, it doesn't take much ammo to put unarmed people in a panic and running for their lives.

Theoretically, yes.

However, in the short-run that group better hope their compound is fireproof; 911 will be not be available as with the majority of Hawaiians that serve HFD.  In the long-run, attrition, disease, no access to doctors, and no stores of resupply will eventually be that group's downfall.

That group has to sleep sometime.    :sleeping:
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: bass monkey on August 06, 2019, 09:39:50 AM
Theoretically, yes.

However, in the short-run that group better hope their compound is fireproof; 911 will be not be available as with the majority of Hawaiians that serve HFD.  In the long-run, attrition, disease, no access to doctors, and no stores of resupply will eventually be that group's downfall.

That group has to sleep sometime.    :sleeping:



Lol at trying to tell a firearms,  shooting and hunting group about possible scenarios most probably have a plan for already
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: Kuleana on August 06, 2019, 09:50:00 AM

Lol at trying to tell a firearms,  shooting and hunting group about possible scenarios most probably have a plan for already

That is the point though, regardless of the background of the scenario.  Unless you live on the Continental US where a small fringe group could find a place in the boonies to hide indefinitely, there is no place to hide in Hawaii and most fringe small groups will not be able to survive in the long-run for the reasons I stated earlier.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: RSN172 on August 06, 2019, 09:56:46 AM
Kuleana,
The entire group is not going to all sleep at the same time and will have guards posted.  In an anarchy situation, the group could take over a secure facility like Halawa or the Fed Detention Center for their base or bases.  These locations already have medical facilities.  Added benefit is releasing the crimminals on the general populace.  This armed group also have among them doctors, dentists and many military trained medics and EMTs.  Disease, lack of medical supplies etc would also apply to the gen populace as well.  We could also just take the supplies out there from the unarmed populace as well.  Your reasoning is faulty.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: punaperson on August 06, 2019, 10:26:25 AM
Kuleana,
Your reasoning is faulty.
Understatement of the Year.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: changemyoil66 on August 06, 2019, 10:31:05 AM
This armed group also have among them doctors, dentists and many military trained medics and EMTs. 


See how doctors and dentist was listed separately.  Heads.

I think we're already at a civil war.  Not like the one for slavery, but to some extent.

1 side against another.  Often 1 side commits violent acts.  Sometimes a full blown battle charge is initiated.  Police stand by and do nothing.  Like how police/sheriff did nothing when it was north vs. south.

1 side also attacks the other more via media control and social media control.

Are we seeing lots of deaths like the 1st civil war, no.  But injuries and attacks both verbal and non-verbal.  Different times, different technologies.  Well maybe war is a strong word.  So civil conflict would be more accurate.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: Kuleana on August 06, 2019, 01:20:00 PM
Kuleana,
The entire group is not going to all sleep at the same time and will have guards posted.  In an anarchy situation, the group could take over a secure facility like Halawa or the Fed Detention Center for their base or bases.  These locations already have medical facilities.  Added benefit is releasing the crimminals on the general populace.  This armed group also have among them doctors, dentists and many military trained medics and EMTs.  Disease, lack of medical supplies etc would also apply to the gen populace as well.  We could also just take the supplies out there from the unarmed populace as well.  Your reasoning is faulty.

Yes, you are right; your armed group and about another hundred or so armed groups at the same time.  A bloodbath it will sure be to secure government facilities, since none of your so-called armed groups are united and have no reason to trust each other.  By-the-way, don't forget organized crime elements might already have you outgunned.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on August 06, 2019, 01:26:34 PM
Yes, you are right; your armed group and about another hundred or so armed groups at the same time.  A bloodbath it will sure be to secure government facilities, since none of your so-called armed groups are united and have no reason to trust each other.  By-the-way, don't forget organized crime elements might already have you outgunned.

"Organized crime elements" in Hawaii?

Do they live in silos?
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: drck1000 on August 06, 2019, 01:30:49 PM

1) See how doctors and dentist was listed separately.  Heads.

2) Are we seeing lots of deaths like the 1st civil war, no.  But injuries and attacks both verbal and non-verbal.  Different times, different technologies.  Well maybe war is a strong word.  So civil conflict would be more accurate.
1)  :rofl:

2) Then the DSA folks are gonna be truly f-ed.  ;D
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: changemyoil66 on August 06, 2019, 01:34:15 PM
Yes, you are right; your armed group and about another hundred or so armed groups at the same time.  A bloodbath it will sure be to secure government facilities, since none of your so-called armed groups are united and have no reason to trust each other.  By-the-way, don't forget organized crime elements might already have you outgunned.

Reminds me of the show Revolution.  The ending was very disappointing.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on August 06, 2019, 01:39:16 PM
Did anyone even watch the video?

It outlines a "Civil COLD War", which is mostly propaganda and insurgency.  Attacks like the firebomber at the immigration detention center and the El Paso shooting are examples of lone wolf radicals committing insurgency.

There's not going to be a skirmish line with Leftists lining up on one side and Conservatives on the other.  It'll be like Ireland, with factions of violent fighters going after terroristic and tactical targets.

Our nation is too large, too well armed, and too "civilized" to tear itself apart over ideologies.  Only an actual tyrannical government or total economic collapse could throw us into that dark of a scenario.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: macsak on August 06, 2019, 01:41:26 PM
Yes, you are right; your armed group and about another hundred or so armed groups at the same time.  A bloodbath it will sure be to secure government facilities, since none of your so-called armed groups are united and have no reason to trust each other.  By-the-way, don't forget organized crime elements might already have you outgunned.

they certainly have me outgunned, and have more ammo and reloading components...
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: changemyoil66 on August 06, 2019, 01:41:38 PM
Did anyone even watch the video?



No :rofl:
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: changemyoil66 on August 06, 2019, 01:42:20 PM
they certainly have me outgunned, and have more ammo and reloading components...

And we still need a doctor for medical aid.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: macsak on August 06, 2019, 01:59:30 PM
And we still need a doctor for medical aid.

a REAL doctor
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: RSN172 on August 06, 2019, 02:07:54 PM
What video?


Actually I did.  As far as armed groups go, some militant groups on the mainland have 20,000 members.  A few members from various groups came and joined forces and worked together to defend the Bundy Ranch from the feds who wisely backed off.  It is not likely that various armed groups will be fighting each other here.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: GlockNewb on August 06, 2019, 02:09:02 PM
Did anyone even watch the video?

It outlines a "Civil COLD War"

I hope people did. Tim goes into great detail about the conflict and how we may already be in the state of “war”, it’s just in a form we’ve never seen before.

He describes it as insurgencies. No real pitched battles, but lower- and smaller-scale violence. The extreme left carries out lots of little ‘attacks’ to hurt and/or defame people, the extreme right carries out small but deadly attacks. The extreme left isn’t condemned by mainstream media, in effect de facto support, while the extreme right gets nonstop media coverage and association with more conservative figures.

Best analogy is that Antifa vs. Proud Boys scuffle video. Antifa comes clad in black and swinging. One Proud Boy knocks one of them out with a single right hook, who’ll the media claim is more violent?
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: GlockNewb on August 06, 2019, 02:12:36 PM

1 side against another.  Often 1 side commits violent acts.  Sometimes a full blown battle charge is initiated.  Police stand by and do nothing.  Like how police/sheriff did nothing when it was north vs. south.
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If you haven’t already, check out Andy Ngo’s coverage regarding Portland and Antifa. Andy was filming coverage in the streets when he was attacked by several black-clad individuals. He made no attempt to retaliate, he just walked out from the fray and it took police officers within line of sight several minutes before making contact. Portland’s mayor is backing Antifa too.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: GlockNewb on August 06, 2019, 02:15:02 PM
https://youtu.be/_lszLvUGZOo

This is only going in one direction...especially when big tech does nothing...
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: changemyoil66 on August 06, 2019, 02:19:56 PM
What video?


Actually I did.  As far as armed groups go, some militant groups on the mainland have 20,000 members.  A few members from various groups came and joined forces and worked together to defend the Bundy Ranch from the feds who wisely backed off.  It is not likely that various armed groups will be fighting each other here.

Don't forget that Bundy was found not guilt of ALL charges brought against him.  He was "exonerated" one could say.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: RSN172 on August 06, 2019, 02:21:48 PM
And we still need a doctor for medical aid.

Just takeover Queens MC.  Remember we are talking about a doomsday scenario.  Any doctor or medical professional that refuses will be summarily dismissed.  Of course while all of this is taking place on Oahu and other populated places, I will be minding my own business in a remote area of Puna and I guess I will have to eat a lot of pork, chicken, taro and potatoes which is what is plentiful around me.
Title: Re: The 2nd Civil War is Coming Into Focus...
Post by: mrgaf on August 06, 2019, 03:05:46 PM
Just takeover Queens MC.  Remember we are talking about a doomsday scenario.  Any doctor or medical professional that refuses will be summarily dismissed.  Of course while all of this is taking place on Oahu and other populated places, I will be minding my own business in a remote area of Puna and I guess I will have to eat a lot of pork, chicken, taro and potatoes which is what is plentiful around me.

Don’t forget to stock up on beer..... :crazy: :geekdanc: