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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rhed on August 16, 2019, 12:50:21 AM
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Are these the only range that can shoot further then 100 yrds here in Oahu? I just want to shoot past 100 yrds. Practice kind, no competition. But seems like a lot of process just to go to these ranges. Is it difficult to join or shoot there? My wife only has a CAC card. She works part time at Shafter. But her card can get us in all the bases. That’s about it though.
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Puuloa is the only range I know of where you can shoot past 100 oh and Schofield you best bet is Schofield . What type of CAC is it. Is she a contractor or a GS or NAF it all depends.
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SRGC allows for military (active and retired) and DOD civilians to join the club. People with base access but not one of those, like contractors, are not eligible. There is a way for civilians to join but there's probably a long waiting list. Members must perform volunteer service or pay a higher membership fee. You must apply for membership at their monthly Wednesday club meeting. Members can bring a guest. Weapons have to be registered on base. This is from what I know from a few years ago so it may have changed. I haven't shot there for a while. Their regular range allowed for shooting at 200 or 300 yards I think and a few times a year they have the 1000 yard range. www.srgchi.org
I RSO the Puuloa club and we do a structured practice or competition one weekend a month at the 200, 300, 500, and 600 yards. Only calibers allowed are 5.56x45/223, 7.62x51/308win, and 3006. We have memberships available for active/retired military, Dod employees, and provide civilian memberships for our volunteers and regular shooters. We only charge $20 for membership and dot have a volunteer requirement, but we do need volunteers. All weapons must be registered at the Kaneohe MCBH provost Marshall and it will be checked prior to practice. Members can sponsor civilians for the practices with myself, teichi, Ren and others willing to help out others here. www.puuloa.com.
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SRGC for casual shooting beyond 100 yards
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I used to be a member of SRGC and it was fun, but too much in fighting and BS that I stopped renewing. Mostly the forced volunteer and higher fees imposed. I mean I was good with the volunteer stuff as I was RSO for many years prior to implementation of the fees. But then I got busy and if I wasn't shooting, I felt that I shouldn't have to volunteer. There were so many that didn't do their volunteer hours and took advantage of the open ranges, so I get it. Then there was the whole tattling of groups reporting on each other BS. So not worth it for me.
Anyways, but yeah, the open range days allowed up to 500 yards at SRs, but mostly people shot 50-100 yards. There were some range days where range control would set limits at 100 and some they allowed out to 500. The 500 days were rare and you were limited as to when you could set up and take down your targets.
The KR ranges used to facilitate 1000 yard, and even further at times. That was rare though, but was fun. ;D
Anyways, what rifle/caliber are you thinking of shooting at those ranges? For me, was just to test my .308. Nothing special.
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I used to be a member of SRGC and it was fun, but too much in fighting and BS that I stopped renewing. Mostly the forced volunteer and higher fees imposed. I mean I was good with the volunteer stuff as I was RSO for many years prior to implementation of the fees. But then I got busy and if I wasn't shooting, I felt that I shouldn't have to volunteer. There were so many that didn't do their volunteer hours and took advantage of the open ranges, so I get it. Then there was the whole tattling of groups reporting on each other BS. So not worth it for me.
Anyways, but yeah, the open range days allowed up to 500 yards at SRs, but mostly people shot 50-100 yards. There were some range days where range control would set limits at 100 and some they allowed out to 500. The 500 days were rare and you were limited as to when you could set up and take down your targets.
The KR ranges used to facilitate 1000 yard, and even further at times. That was rare though, but was fun. ;D
Anyways, what rifle/caliber are you thinking of shooting at those ranges? For me, was just to test my .308. Nothing special.
I only have 556/233 and 308. Don’t wanna go any thing else bigger then 308 for if any more future purchases. And I’m only running gassers atm. But, later thinking of a bolt.
I’m willing to do whatever help for volunteer work. And also been hearing other not so good stories with SRGC. So that’s gonna be out for me. I’m a pretty cool guy to get along with. So maybe I can hook up with one of you guys from Pu’uloa regs. Haven’t been shooting lately at the Koko head range. But will soon as soon as my teens marching band stuffs ends in couple of months. Maybe then I’ll touch base. I’m planning on going to the range Labor Day weekend. Hopefully can meet up with one of you guys there. Really wanna try shooting pass 100. Must be fun.. Thanks brotha’s
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Printout the ballistics charts for your load, a good one is https://www.jbmballistics.com/ballistics/calculators/calculators.shtml or there's apps like shooter or strelok on the phone.
Also learn about calculating and adjusting for wind.
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Printout the ballistics charts for your load, a good one is https://www.jbmballistics.com/ballistics/calculators/calculators.shtml or there's apps like shooter or strelok on the phone.
Also learn about calculating and adjusting for wind.
This one has been pretty handy also. especially if you reload.
http://www.shooterscalculator.com/ballistic-trajectory-chart.php?pl=308+Winchester&presets=308+Winchester%7E308+Win+168Gr+Hornady+A-Max%7EG1%7E.475%7E168%7E2700%7E100%7E1.5%7E0%7E10%7E90%7Efalse%7E0%7E59%7E29.92%7E50%7Etrue%7E1000%7E25&df=G1&bc=.475&bw=168&vi=2650&zr=100&sh=1.5&sa=15&ws=15&wa=60&cfa=on&alt=150&tmp=78&bar=29.92&hum=70&cr=500&ss=100&chartColumns=Range%7Eyd%3BElevation%7Ein%3BElevation%7EMOA%7EFBFFF5%3BElevation%7EMIL%3BWindage%7Ein%3BWindage%7EMOA%7EFBFFF5%3BWindage%7EMIL%3BTime%7Es%3BEnergy%7Eft.lbf%3BVel%5Bx%2By%5D%7Eft%2Fs&lbl=308+Win+168Gr+Sierra+HPBT+MK&submitst=+Create+Chart+
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Printout the ballistics charts for your load, a good one is https://www.jbmballistics.com/ballistics/calculators/calculators.shtml or there's apps like shooter or strelok on the phone.
Also learn about calculating and adjusting for wind.
I have to study each values in these calculators. Some I don’t understand. What about https://www.hornady.com/team-hornady/ballistic-calculators/#!/
is that a good calculator?
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there may be a shoot next week at Puuloa. They are looking for people to run the range. You have to register your firearms with eh Marines first. The procedure is outline in the Competition section
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there may be a shoot next week at Puuloa. They are looking for people to run the range. You have to register your firearms with eh Marines first. The procedure is outline in the Competition section
How ironic.. Had to take my truck in for service at Firestone in KMCBH. My friend now manages that Firestone location now. So had to bring all documents and id’s to get enrolled in DBIDS. My wife with the CAC card did the sponsor. But after reading this, I went to the competition section. Read https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=33937.0 and realized I did enroll this morning. Now, what’s the next step? Do I bring my gun registration and/or the gun to register at the same place I enrolled?
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How ironic.. Had to take my truck in for service at Firestone in KMCBH. My friend now manages that Firestone location now. So had to bring all documents and id’s to get enrolled in DBIDS. My wife with the CAC card did the sponsor. But after reading this, I went to the competition section. Read https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=33937.0 and realized I did enroll this morning. Now, what’s the next step? Do I bring my gun registration and/or the gun to register at the same place I enrolled?
Teichi is a the Club President. The Club needs to submit your name to the base for registration then when they get it you take your gun registration docs and I believe you take them to the MPs or Provost Marshall's office.
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pic shows ranges that SRGC uses, not including the skeet range.
KR3 sometimes has some steel silhouettes out beyond 500yds, target objects out at 1,000yds. or you pick out a light-colored rock way, way out there, and see how you do. look for the dirt splash. max caliber 50BMG.
KR4 is about 60yds max for posting a paper target stand. rifle & pistol combined. max caliber 7.62 rifle, .45 pistol. KR4 is probably the most frequently-used range for SRGC.
SRGC usage of CR1 has been scarce the last few years due to some Army reorganization, allocation & prioritization.
The Army has been allowing SRGC access to KR3 couple times a month, sometimes more, sometimes less, for the last couple years, depends on the Army training requirements which have priority over club use. And then it comes down to whether the club can come up with the qualified volunteers to staff the session.
As mentioned above, SRGC is open to Active Duty military, retired military, current and retired DOD civilians.
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SRGC allows for military (active and retired) and DOD civilians to join the club. People with base access but not one of those, like contractors, are not eligible. There is a way for civilians to join but there's probably a long waiting list. Members must perform volunteer service or pay a higher membership fee. You must apply for membership at their monthly Wednesday club meeting. Members can bring a guest. Weapons have to be registered on base. This is from what I know from a few years ago so it may have changed. I haven't shot there for a while. Their regular range allowed for shooting at 200 or 300 yards I think and a few times a year they have the 1000 yard range. www.srgchi.org
I RSO the Puuloa club and we do a structured practice or competition one weekend a month at the 200, 300, 500, and 600 yards. Only calibers allowed are 5.56x45/223, 7.62x51/308win, and 3006. We have memberships available for active/retired military, Dod employees, and provide civilian memberships for our volunteers and regular shooters. We only charge $20 for membership and dot have a volunteer requirement, but we do need volunteers. All weapons must be registered at the Kaneohe MCBH provost Marshall and it will be checked prior to practice. Members can sponsor civilians for the practices with myself, teichi, Ren and others willing to help out others here. www.puuloa.com.
Im no longer a member.
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Practices are on for this weekend. Saturday is block time at the 200, 300, 500, and 600 yardline. Sunday is practicing the highpower 800agg course of fire.
I'll be RSO on Saturday. Marine Corps firearms registration forms will be checked at range control in the morning.
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Practices are on for this weekend. Saturday is block time at the 200, 300, 500, and 600 yardline. Sunday is practicing the highpower 800agg course of fire.
I'll be RSO on Saturday. Marine Corps firearms registration forms will be checked at range control in the morning.
im interested in joining do you guys need to submit my info to Kbay first?
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You need to be added to the access request roster, cleared by the PMO, register your rifle and vehicle with the PMO, then you can participate in the Pu'uloa Club shoots.
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just as an example, SRGC had KR3 three times sofar this month (Sept), unstructured informal plinking. KR3 is the 1,000yd range, well, maybe a little bit longer, probably about 1,300yds is the max.
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KR3 is a really nice range. Can’t wait to try it out. Though like I said, I never shot pass 200 before. And that plate you were shooting, man what’s that about 600? Thats a long ways. And yet that range goes up to 1K+? Thinking of investing in a rangefinder after and if all goes well with my app. Will be checking schedule for this weekend to drop off apps if KR3 opens up again. Thanks again rpo.. see you soon at the range again.. :shaka:
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KR3.
(https://i.imgur.com/FbuT2i6.jpg)
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KR3.
Nice! What rifle/caliber were you shooting?
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I was trying out a new 6.5CM AR-10 build, but was also casually plinking with my 20" 5.56 AR-15, 77gr ammo. In the past, usually 308 AR-10.
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I was trying out a new 6.5CM AR-10 build, but was also casually plinking with my 20" 5.56 AR-15, 77gr ammo. In the past, usually 308 AR-10.
CR2 side is nice too. Went there this past Saturday. Man, KR3, CR2 really nice range.
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Re Puuloa:
I think I read about some places where active duty personnel can be paid to do the “volunteer” work like working the target pits and other duties.
Kind of like MPPL, where you don’t have to help set up or take down if you pay a higher fee.
I can’t recall if that was recent or from decades ago. I think I was reading about a range on the mainland.
I wouldn’t mind helping out our boys with some extra cash and I’d tip them too for doing my “volunteer” work.
I have nothing against volunteering (I help at the ssf every year) but I work 6 days a week and Sundays do housework/yard work and also do the yard work at my in laws place too. So I don’t have a lot free time to volunteer.
Is this something that is allowed at Puuloa?
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Re Puuloa:
I think I read about some places where active duty personnel can be paid to do the “volunteer” work like working the target pits and other duties.
Kind of like MPPL, where you don’t have to help set up or take down if you pay a higher fee.
I can’t recall if that was recent or from decades ago. I think I was reading about a range on the mainland.
I wouldn’t mind helping out our boys with some extra cash and I’d tip them too for doing my “volunteer” work.
I have nothing against volunteering (I help at the ssf every year) but I work 6 days a week and Sundays do housework/yard work and also do the yard work at my in laws place too. So I don’t have a lot free time to volunteer.
Is this something that is allowed at Puuloa?
We need beach guards and Medics to run the range. $80 for the day which usually starts at 7am and ends between 11am to 2pm depending on the program. You will need a DBIDS card for base access. You can email the club for the details. puuloaclub@gmail.com
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Thanks Zipps!!
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Schofield CR2
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ho-hum, just another beautiful day at KR3.
(https://i.imgur.com/8iZR4EA.jpg)
white silhouette "7" is at 680 yds. most times, the silhouettes aren't out. so usually we hunt for hostile boulders.
(https://i.imgur.com/EMaBVZg.jpg)
that light-colored rock in the middle of that pyramid-shaped dirt slide, left of center, is 1,530yds. 6.5CM aspirations.
(https://i.imgur.com/v4UE93z.jpg)
a few more hostile boulders. some boulders give a decent dust signature, if it's not raining. Boulder on the right with white paint is about 1,000yds.
(https://i.imgur.com/gelNfQ7.jpg)
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https://www.srgchi.org/ (https://www.srgchi.org/)
SRGC has a program where unaffiliated ordinary Joe-Blow-off-the-street civilians can acquire membership, "Provisional Associate Member", requires 36hrs of volunteer hours for first 2 years (or 24hrs for first 3 yrs), most often fulfilled by volunteering as RSO or eventually as Range OIC. A couple of PAM openings are available at this time. Believe me, hitting the hours requirement is pretty easy once you get qualified as RSO, or eventually OIC. Training is provided by currently-qualified club members.
yeah, a shameless plug. Without range volunteers, we can't open the ranges (note: plural) for shooting.
KR4 is where the club pistoleros and CQB LARPers hang out. ;D just kidding, we love them all. it's about 75yds, static shooting positions only, so not really LARPing.
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rpoL98.. hopefully I can make it out there at kr3 this coming weekend if I don’t work :wacko:. Gonna try shoot some of my .308 reloads. I’ve managed a good accurate recipe for 155 Palma’s clocking in at 2958 fps with just a slight flattened primer ( no sharp edges). It should take me supersonic out to 1300 yards according to the ballistic calculator. Anyways, hope to see you there. Btw, I don’t see any range dates for next weekend?
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Puuloa has e targets by Silver Mountain
https://www.silvermountaintargets.com/ (https://www.silvermountaintargets.com/)
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Puuloa has e targets by Silver Mountain
https://www.silvermountaintargets.com/ (https://www.silvermountaintargets.com/)
Nice! How far does that silver mountain target range go out too? And is it still caliber specific at Pu’uloa? That’s a nice target, especially for prs.
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rpoL98.. hopefully I can make it out there at kr3 this coming weekend if I don’t work :wacko:. Gonna try shoot some of my .308 reloads. I’ve managed a good accurate recipe for 155 Palma’s clocking in at 2958 fps with just a slight flattened primer ( no sharp edges). It should take me supersonic out to 1300 yards according to the ballistic calculator. Anyways, hope to see you there. Btw, I don’t see any range dates for next weekend?
@Rhed
correct, no range dates for next weekend (Aug 20, 21). Today (14th) was last range date for August. Will have to see what we get for September. Today was another beautiful day at KR3, no rain, nice breeze ("wind estimation challenge"). Some guys were challenging themselves with targets out past 1,500yds. Closest silhouette today was at 590yds.
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Nice! How far does that silver mountain target range go out too? And is it still caliber specific at Pu’uloa? That’s a nice target, especially for prs.
All the way throughout the max range use of 600 yards. No need for spotter and very little target service. As you can read from website, it also plots your shots, groups and velocity strings. All you need is a tablet or other mobile device with an internet browser. Yes. Calibers are limited to .223, .308, 30/06
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@Rhed
correct, no range dates for next weekend (Aug 20, 21). Today (14th) was last range date for August. Will have to see what we get for September. Today was another beautiful day at KR3, no rain, nice breeze ("wind estimation challenge"). Some guys were challenging themselves with targets out past 1,500yds. Closest silhouette today was at 590yds.
On your last photo you took, have you ever tried ranging the white target that’s further back? I did the last time I was there with my son. It was at least 1800+ yrds. I don’t know how accurate my 2800.com rangefinder was that day I range it since it was almost midday and lots of miraging. Next time I come out, I’m gonna range it with my 1550nm rated rangefinder. If it’s so, something for you 6.5 guys or magnum cartridges. .308? No chance.. 😂 Btw, is the steel targets still out there?
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/yroKIK.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnyroKIKj)
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On your last photo you took, have you ever tried ranging the white target that’s further back? I did the last time I was there with my son. It was at least 1800+ yrds. I don’t know how accurate my 2800.com rangefinder was that day I range it since it was almost midday and lots of miraging. Next time I come out, I’m gonna range it with my 1550nm rated rangefinder. If it’s so, something for you 6.5 guys or magnum cartridges. .308? No chance.. 😂 Btw, is the steel targets still out there?
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/yroKIK.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnyroKIKj)
@Rhed
yeah, I think that's the one that they were shooting at today. my range finder didn't pick it up. yup, the steel targets were still out there today. but who knows about next time... it's all good, just lucky to have a place we can shot beyond 100 yds.
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@rpoL98
Agreed.. I miss the pop ups. But really it’s nice to hear the report (ping) from the steel targets. What really makes it fun is that these targets are unknown distance. Having a rangefinder is a must out there. I cheat a lot, range it, then the Kestrel gives the fire solution :geekdanc:.. The last time my son and I was there, I ranged a steel target at 820 if I remember. Gave the solution to my son, then he was pinging that steel (at the top) shot after shot with his reloads of 77gr smk. Seeing and hearing my son giggle each time was priceless. I need to record the shot through my spotting scope. I can see the heat trail from the bullet. It was fun..
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Pu'uloa yesterday. We had more Marines jump in with us. The day started slow, but we were able to get everyone trigger time out to 600 yards.
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Spent Sunday changing the backing of our targets in preparation for our next CMP EIC match on 18 September.
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It was a good weekend on Pu'uloa A Range. We completed another CMP EIC Match. The weather was mostly fair with light winds and some light showers.
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Very nice day today at SRGC. Ranged and impact targets 852, 906, 1152, and 1297 yrds all day today using 155 gr Palma’s. Happy with the results and lots of fun. @rpoL98 I got a good range reading on the white steel target top hill @ 1677 yrds. Thanks!
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Very nice day today at SRGC. Ranged and impact targets 852, 906, 1152, and 1297 yrds all day today using 155 gr Palma’s. Happy with the results and lots of fun. @rpoL98 I got a good range reading on the white steel target top hill @ 1677 yrds. Thanks!
yup, today was a great day at KR3. Fantastic turnout, pleasant group of people, beautiful weather. it was good all around. :shaka:
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Fun and nice day at KR3 range today. Small kine passing showers in the beginning. Then all sunny the rest of the day. @ rpoL98 thanks again for your service and keeping the range safe. :shaka:
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Fun and nice day at KR3 range today. Small kine passing showers in the beginning. Then all sunny the rest of the day. @ rpoL98 thanks again for your service and keeping the range safe. :shaka:
no problem, my pleasure. :thumbsup: good group of people. I had checked the weather report, tbh, I thought today was going to be a mud fest. surprise, it was a nice day after all.
ETA: that was the last KR3 range date for November. Will have to see what the Army gives us for December, and hopefully we get some "scattered showers, mostly sunny" days. Those usually turn out pretty good.
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Awesome! I signed up for SRGC membership this past weekend, after being out for about 4-5 years. Hopefully my application will clear quickly and I'll be able to hit the range again in about a month. Will give me some time to get backup for some 6.5 creed and .308 win.
Question, is logging/record of firearms with base security still required? I recall having to take he firearm information to the Provost office (I went to Shafter) to have the information input into the Army's system in order to bring them on installation.
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Awesome! I signed up for SRGC membership this past weekend, after being out for about 4-5 years. Hopefully my application will clear quickly and I'll be able to hit the range again in about a month. Will give me some time to get backup for some 6.5 creed and .308 win.
Question, is logging/record of firearms with base security still required? I recall having to take he firearm information to the Provost office (I went to Shafter) to have the information input into the Army's system in order to bring them on installation.
You should have gotten a registration slip that has the firearms registered listed on it. I’d call Schofield provost to get the latest info… :shaka:
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You should have gotten a registration slip that has to be with the firearm(s) listed on it. I’d call Schofield provost to get the latest info… :shaka:
Thanks. Yeah, I did get the record and I still have it. I was asking if policy is still on because I have a few rifles that I picked up after I was last SRGC member. So if policy is still on, I'll need to make time to do the paperwork for those rifles.
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Awesome! I signed up for SRGC membership this past weekend, after being out for about 4-5 years. Hopefully my application will clear quickly and I'll be able to hit the range again in about a month. Will give me some time to get backup for some 6.5 creed and .308 win.
Question, is logging/record of firearms with base security still required? I recall having to take he firearm information to the Provost office (I went to Shafter) to have the information input into the Army's system in order to bring them on installation.
Yes.. need to register all firearms you’ll wanna take to the range with the army. Also need to register your vehicle with RC that you’ll be using to get through yellow gate of the range. Hope to see you there.
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Yes.. need to register all firearms you’ll wanna take to the range with the army. Also need to register your vehicle with RC that you’ll be using to get through yellow gate of the range. Hope to see you there.
Cool. Will get that stuff done.
For vehicle registration with RC, I saw that on the website. Is process going to RC office and do paperwork? Is RC office near the CR ranges? Or what I think were the CR ranges. Where you take a right after the gas station.
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Cool. Will get that stuff done.
For vehicle registration with RC, I saw that on the website. Is process going to RC office and do paperwork? Is RC office near the CR ranges? Or what I think were the CR ranges. Where you take a right after the gas station.
Correct.. RC is at the CR ranges. @rpoL98 hopefully will chime in. He knows the exact location of RC.
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I went to range control for vehicle registration and they said they don't do that? The club does?
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I went to range control for vehicle registration and they said they don't do that? The club does?
might be some confusion between vehicle registration for military bases, which RC doesn't do, as opposed to getting a RC permit for SRGC club members? not sure if the right words were used. should be easy to get squared away.
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might be some confusion between vehicle registration for military bases, which RC doesn't do, as opposed to getting a RC permit for SRGC club members? not sure if the right words were used. should be easy to get squared away.
Cool. I'll check when I run up to RC next time. :shaka:
Maybe permit or whatever is needed for vehicle access to rifle ranges, vice vehicle registration.
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I finally got it from the club. I think there is a miscomm
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Cool. Will get that stuff done.
For vehicle registration with RC, I saw that on the website. Is process going to RC office and do paperwork? Is RC office near the CR ranges? Or what I think were the CR ranges. Where you take a right after the gas station.
yes, RC office is still near the CR-1 and CR-2 ranges. that hasn't changed. take a right after the gas station, that's Beaver Road. Still the same.
any firearms you want to bring on-base have to be registered with the Army Provost Marshal office. The easiest way to do that is with the PMO at Shafter (instead of Schofield), Shafter's PMO is 24-7. You just take your HPD registrations there, do not take the actual firearms. And your personal ID, like your HDL. Last time I went, it took about an hour, had about 10 items I was having added. It seems I went during shift change, which didn't help. that was about 1pm IIRC.
If you don't have a CAC card, then when you go on base, you and your vehicle is subject to inspection, so you need to have the paperwork for your firearms. Paperwork in this case means the Army firearms registrations.
Even if you have a CAC card, you're subject still to the random inspection, like winning the lottery. :'( So it's good if you got your paperwork all squared away.
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I finally got it from the club. I think there is a miscomm
Great! :geekdanc: see you on the Range!
ETA: the RC vehicle permit is kind of a new thing, probably some bugs still being worked out on the process. Sorry, I'm not tuned it to the latest on this, I'm just at the range when it's open and it's my turn, not really part of "Administration & Management". I'll keep my ears open if I hear anything new, or if I get a chance to ask somebody "in-the-know".
ETA2 (12/29/2022): yes, now the SRGC OIC can issue range vehicle passes.
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yes, RC office is still near the CR-1 and CR-2 ranges. that hasn't changed. take a right after the gas station, that's Beaver Road. Still the same.
any firearms you want to bring on-base have to be registered with the Army Provost Marshal office. The easiest way to do that is with the PMO at Shafter (instead of Schofield), Shafter's PMO is 24-7. You just take your HPD registrations there, do not take the actual firearms. And your personal ID, like your HDL. Last time I went, it took about an hour, had about 10 items I was having added. It seems I went during shift change, which didn't help. that was about 1pm IIRC.
If you don't have a CAC card, then when you go on base, you and your vehicle is subject to inspection, so you need to have the paperwork for your firearms. Paperwork in this case means the Army firearms registrations.
Even if you have a CAC card, you're subject still to the random inspection, like winning the lottery. :'( So it's good if you got your paperwork all squared away.
Awesome! Thanks! Yeah, I went to the Shafter one and was pretty easy, about what you mentioned. I forget what day I went, but was pretty quick. None of my bolt actions were on that list, so need to add them.
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Thanks rpol98 for running the show and rhed for letting me get behind your rifle that TT glass is amazing. Good shooting guys as always. Hopefully we will get some more range days before the end of the year and another tent before rainy season so we can stay dry while rhed test his gear out lol
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Thanks rpol98 for running the show and rhed for letting me get behind your rifle that TT glass is amazing. Good shooting guys as always. Hopefully we will get some more range days before the end of the year and another tent before rainy season so we can stay dry while rhed test his gear out lol
Lol.. get em all wet! :rofl:
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Thanks rpol98 for running the show and rhed for letting me get behind your rifle that TT glass is amazing. Good shooting guys as always. Hopefully we will get some more range days before the end of the year and another tent before rainy season so we can stay dry while rhed test his gear out lol
I remember him posting about that a while back. Hopefully I can join you folks soon and see how my ZCO and NF look compared to the TT. I've been tempted by the TT for sure.
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heads
Thanks rpol98 for running the show and rhed for letting me get behind your rifle that TT glass is amazing. Good shooting guys as always. Hopefully we will get some more range days before the end of the year and another tent before rainy season so we can stay dry while rhed test his gear out lol
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Tails never fails
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Lol.. get em all wet! :rofl:
I’ll bring my mask and snorkel
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I’ll bring my mask and snorkel
a couple years back, at KR3, during one of those torrential downpour days, hey, it's Schofield, we had a small group of 3 or 4 active-duty military guys, they had a tarp on the ground, honest to god, there was a pond in the tarp, and they were shooting prone from in-the-pond. no shit, they were having a good old time, laughing it up, challenging each other for down-range hits. they stayed till they were out of ammo. Despite the tarp, they were all muddy-as-hell, when they were done, they all climbed into what-looked-like a shiny new luxury SUV rental. I had to scratch my head on that one. That was memorable.
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a couple years back, at KR3, during one of those torrential downpour days, hey, it's Schofield, we had a small group of 3 or 4 active-duty military guys, they had a tarp on the ground, honest to god, there was a pond in the tarp, and they were shooting prone from in-the-pond. no shit, they were having a good old time, laughing it up, challenging each other for down-range hits. they stayed till they were out of ammo. Despite the tarp, they were all muddy-as-hell, when they were done, they all climbed into what-looked-like a shiny new luxury SUV rental. I had to scratch my head on that one. That was memorable.
Front-line MOS military people can get muddy, cold, soaking wet and still yuk it up. 11B, 19D, 11C and similar. :shaka:
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I remember him posting about that a while back. Hopefully I can join you folks soon and see how my ZCO and NF look compared to the TT. I've been tempted by the TT for sure.
Wait.. your gonna re-join SRGC to compare scopes? Normally we join to shoot at the range. 😂 jus playin
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yes, RC office is still near the CR-1 and CR-2 ranges. that hasn't changed. take a right after the gas station, that's Beaver Road. Still the same.
any firearms you want to bring on-base have to be registered with the Army Provost Marshal office. The easiest way to do that is with the PMO at Shafter (instead of Schofield), Shafter's PMO is 24-7. You just take your HPD registrations there, do not take the actual firearms. And your personal ID, like your HDL. Last time I went, it took about an hour, had about 10 items I was having added. It seems I went during shift change, which didn't help. that was about 1pm IIRC.
If you don't have a CAC card, then when you go on base, you and your vehicle is subject to inspection, so you need to have the paperwork for your firearms. Paperwork in this case means the Army firearms registrations.
Even if you have a CAC card, you're subject still to the random inspection, like winning the lottery. :'( So it's good if you got your paperwork all squared away.
Funny.. that happened to me recently. Though not at Schofield, but Pearl Harbor Joint base. Was going to the gym there, and at the gate MP with a M4 and a PEQ-15, told me there doin random checks after he gave my cac back. Looked in the back of my car, had to open the trunk, and underside carriage mirror check. I never did get a random when I go to the gym there. That was my first.
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I remember years ago a National Guard member was caught bringing a firearm onto JBPHH. Not sure the reason, but his car got searched and they found it and he got in trouble.
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Yea, I can’t imagine getting a random search forget to bring the proper documents of registered firearms with the Army.
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Wait.. your gonna re-join SRGC to compare scopes? Normally we join to shoot at the range. 😂 jus playin
Yeah, man. Scope measuring. ;D
Looking forward to when I can join you folks. :geekdanc:
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Funny.. that happened to me recently. Though not at Schofield, but Pearl Harbor Joint base. Was going to the gym there, and at the gate MP with a M4 and a PEQ-15, told me there doin random checks after he gave my cac back. Looked in the back of my car, had to open the trunk, and underside carriage mirror check. I never did get a random when I go to the gym there. That was my first.
I have had that happen, but not in years. I was "the lucky" one once on JBPHH and another in a neighboring compound.
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I remember years ago a National Guard member was caught bringing a firearm onto JBPHH. Not sure the reason, but his car got searched and they found it and he got in trouble.
I know of one HIANG who did that. . .
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Awesome! I signed up for SRGC membership this past weekend, after being out for about 4-5 years. Hopefully my application will clear quickly and I'll be able to hit the range again in about a month. Will give me some time to get backup for some 6.5 creed and .308 win.
Question, is logging/record of firearms with base security still required? I recall having to take he firearm information to the Provost office (I went to Shafter) to have the information input into the Army's system in order to bring them on installation.
we should have some range dates this month (December 2022), actually as soon as this weekend (12/3, 12/4), if we get the volunteers. check the calendar, however be advised, might only get updated the day-before, sorry, can't be helped, that's the nature of the beast, all-volunteer club workers, etc. gotta check with the wifey, honey-do list, football schedule, kids soccer schedule, christmas parties, etc.
calendar needs to say "open". "available" means we're still waiting for volunteers.
and then there's the weather. forecast for this weekend looks promising...
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we should have some range dates this month (December 2022), actually as soon as this weekend (12/3, 12/4), if we get the volunteers. check the calendar, however be advised, might only get updated the day-before, sorry, can't be helped, that's the nature of the beast, all-volunteer club workers, etc. gotta check with the wifey, honey-do list, football schedule, kids soccer schedule, christmas parties, etc.
calendar needs to say "open". "available" means we're still waiting for volunteers.
and then there's the weather. forecast for this weekend looks promising...
Thank you! I'm still waiting for response from my membership "application". The membership director said 1-2 months. . . :o
For RSO, do you still need to take the briefing by range control? Or does SRGC put on the brief every so often? When I was a member, I spent more time as RSO than shooting. But I had more free time back then. . .
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yes, Range Control still does the required Army briefing required for the Range Safety Officer (and OIC). couple times a year, on a Saturday, usually.
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yes, Range Control still does the required Army briefing required for the Range Safety Officer (and OIC). couple times a year, on a Saturday, usually.
This is my new shooting range!
https://gizmodo.com/mauna-loa-eruption-photos-facts-hawaii-volcano-1849833286/slides/7
Want to be the RSO?
:thumbsup:
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This is my new shooting range!
https://gizmodo.com/mauna-loa-eruption-photos-facts-hawaii-volcano-1849833286/slides/7
Want to be the RSO?
:thumbsup:
you are desecrating the aina
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you are desecrating the aina
Interesting comment.
I did my usual Wednesday bible study this week.
God gave us the Earth,
The Earth did not create us.
We are made from the elements that exist here.
But I defy you to define how that was done.
You can not. I have a science degree, so I'm skeptical
of everything, including religion.
I suppose that is why Hawaiians are so screwed up.
They are always late.
:shaka:
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ok, this is heating up in here, like, molten lava hot.
:stopjack:
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ok, this is heating up in here, like, molten lava hot.
:stopjack:
Thanks for the guard rails.
:thumbsup:
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Designated small arms ranges, permitted calibers and target distance are: (a) CR-2 and CR-2A, up to .30 caliber for rifles, .45 caliber for pistols and 12-gauge for shotguns, and the maximum target distance is 300 meters (except for the four-firing points on the right side of these ranges is 500 meters with OIC’s approval); (b) KR-3, rifle only up to .50 caliber, and maximum target distance of 1,000 meters (but no individual is permitted beyond 100 meters downrange); and (c) KR-4, up to .30 caliber for rifles, .45 caliber for pistols and 12-gauge shotguns, and the maximum target distance is the fence line.
Checked the calendar. Seems like KR3 and KR4 are potential. I thought Nov was similar. They don't use or get the CR ranges anymore? I recall (maybe 3+ years ago), it was mostly CR and rarely KR.
Looking forward to shooting my .308 and 6.5 cm, so either KRs sound good. I recall could shoot pistol at CRs, but there was that ditch where the targets would need to be decently far away.
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Checked the calendar. Seems like KR3 and KR4 are potential. I thought Nov was similar. They don't use or get the CR ranges anymore? I recall (maybe 3+ years ago), it was mostly CR and rarely KR.
Looking forward to shooting my .308 and 6.5 cm, so either KRs sound good. I recall could shoot pistol at CRs, but there was that ditch where the targets would need to be decently far away.
correct, no more CR1, CR2, or CR2A. those days are gone. KR3 is the long distance range, out to 1,500. Depending on Range Control and OIC of the day, can post targets out to 300 if nearby adjacent ranges are not in use, i.e. if Army isn't using CR1 or CR2, etc, due to overlapping SDZ (Surface Danger Zones, bullet impact areas). But 300 is a long walk, down and back. at times, like now, there's steel silhouettes from 500 out to 1,500.
KR4 is the shorter range, about 80yds max (fence line). KR4 is rifles, pistols and shotguns. some KR4 pistoleros like to put out multiple targets at, say, 7yds, 10yds, 15yds etc. good fun. static shooting position, though.
if you're shooting 308 and 6.5CM, you really want to be up at KR3.
back in the days when SRGC used CR1 (600yd range), we hardly ever got KR3, maybe couple times a year, if that. Perks of KR3 is that allowed caliber goes up to 50BMG (not that anybody recently shoots 50), and the distance is essentially unlimited. Since CR1 was permanently assigned to an Army unit, we now get KR3 rather frequently. fingers crossed, knock on wood.
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correct, no more CR1, CR2, or CR2A. those days are gone. KR3 is the long distance range, out to 1,500. Depending on Range Control and OIC of the day, can post targets out to 300 if nearby adjacent ranges are not in use, i.e. if Army isn't using CR1 or CR2, etc, due to overlapping SDZ (Surface Danger Zones, bullet impact areas). But 300 is a long walk, down and back. at times, like now, there's steel silhouettes from 500 out to 1,500.
KR4 is the shorter range, about 80yds max (fence line). KR4 is rifles, pistols and shotguns. some KR4 pistoleros like to put out multiple targets at, say, 7yds, 10yds, 15yds etc. good fun. static shooting position, though.
if you're shooting 308 and 6.5CM, you really want to be up at KR3.
back in the days when SRGC used CR1 (600yd range), we hardly ever got KR3, maybe couple times a year, if that. Perks of KR3 is that allowed caliber goes up to 50BMG (not that anybody recently shoots 50), and the distance is essentially unlimited. Since CR1 was permanently assigned to an Army unit, we now get KR3 rather frequently. fingers crossed, knock on wood.
Cool. Yeah, that would cover my current interests. When I was member, it was almost always CR and occasionally KR4. KR3 was few and far between, and when it was open, was usually filled super early. For my bolt action rifles, I mostly want to shoot 100 yards. Still early in load development for those. But eventually, would love to shoot steel longer distances. Yeah, 300 yards is a far walk. I recall on the rare times could shoot longer at CR (the 600 rack I think), they used to drive out there to start and then pick up target when all pau. That was WAY too far to walk.
KR4 would be good too. I am taking a couple of pistol classes on the mainland next spring and rust is forming :(
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I miss going to KR3 especially with the prices to fly out now days . The good ol dollar bet to hit 1500 in under 5 shots 😂🤣
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SRGC membership approved. . . :geekdanc:
Can't make it to the range this weekend. However, going on leave for two week starting next week, so will try to make time to load up some ammo.
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SRGC membership approved. . . :geekdanc:
Can't make it to the range this weekend. However, going on leave for two week starting next week, so will try to make time to load up some ammo.
TFTI
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ditto this weekend
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it's not like KR3 or KR4 are going anywheres. not a problem.
this weekend is the last shooting days of the year, until Jan 2023. Weather forecast actually looks pretty good.
only thing I worry about, is Jan/Feb are notoriously wet, muddy, slippery, and miserable for KR3. Same for KR4, although not as slippery and muddy. Might be March until we see the return of nicer weather, who knows, weather is fickle if anything. we'll just have to see. :shaka:
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Saturday I work. Sunday probably. Wanna send out my last batch of 155 Palma down range. Those Palma’s are hammers out to 1550+. After that, gonna experiment with 185 hybrids. Or jugs if I can find some..
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it's not like KR3 or KR4 are going anywheres. not a problem.
this weekend is the last shooting days of the year, until Jan 2023. Weather forecast actually looks pretty good.
only thing I worry about, is Jan/Feb are notoriously wet, muddy, slippery, and miserable for KR3. Same for KR4, although not as slippery and muddy. Might be March until we see the return of nicer weather, who knows, weather is fickle if anything. we'll just have to see. :shaka:
I was going to shoot some rifle last weekend, but it was SUPER windy. Would have still been fun to shoot with the gusts to about 30+ mph where we were at, but didn't end up busting out the rifles.
I vaguely recall KR4 (or maybe it was another) that has a short dirt access "ramp" from the road to the range level.
I'll definitely be loading up 6.5 and .308 over the Christmas "break". My work schedule shouldn't be that crazy Jan-Feb. End of March and April might get nuts again. . . :(
Looking forward to getting the bolt action rifle shooting again.
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Saturday I work. Sunday probably. Wanna send out my last batch of 155 Palma down range. Those Palma’s are hammers out to 1550+. After that, gonna experiment with 185 hybrids. Or jugs if I can find some..
I'll check my stash. I might have some Berger 185 gr hybrids. I for sure have some 175 and 168 gr SMK if you would like to try some.
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I'll check my stash. I might have some Berger 185 gr hybrids. I for sure have some 175 and 168 gr SMK if you would like to try some.
I have a brand new box of 500 pcs168 SMK. Matter of fact, just got the return label from brown. I’m returning them. Also have a box of 500 pcs 175 which I think I’ll use for my AR10. Do you have any Jugs? That's friggin sold out everywhere! Worst then powders.. lol
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I was going to shoot some rifle last weekend, but it was SUPER windy. Would have still been fun to shoot with the gusts to about 30+ mph where we were at, but didn't end up busting out the rifles.
I vaguely recall KR4 (or maybe it was another) that has a short dirt access "ramp" from the road to the range level.
I'll definitely be loading up 6.5 and .308 over the Christmas "break". My work schedule shouldn't be that crazy Jan-Feb. End of March and April might get nuts again. . . :(
Looking forward to getting the bolt action rifle shooting again.
Windy? I don’t recall it being windy.
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I have a brand new box of 500 pcs168 SMK. Matter of fact, just got the return label from brown. I’m returning them. Also have a box of 500 pcs 175 which I think I’ll use for my AR10. Do you have any Jugs? That's friggin sold out everywhere! Worst then powders.. lol
I'll check when I get home. I might have some 200.20x hybrids. I don't recall if I ended up getting some 185 gr jugs.
Hopefully Berger is catching up. I was able to get some 140 gr 6.5 hybrids recently. Those were out of stock for a long time.
Windy? I don’t recall it being windy.
Really? When I left town Friday morning, it was blowing pretty good in town. I got some high wind warnings from work. We were in Wahiawa/Haleiwa area over the weekend and it was gusting pretty hard at times.
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I'll check when I get home. I might have some 200.20x hybrids. I don't recall if I ended up getting some 185 gr jugs.
Hopefully Berger is catching up. I was able to get some 140 gr 6.5 hybrids recently. Those were out of stock for a long time.
Really? When I left town Friday morning, it was blowing pretty good in town. I got some high wind warnings from work. We were in Wahiawa/Haleiwa area over the weekend and it was gusting pretty hard at times.
I don’t know about last Friday or Saturday. But past Sunday was nice and a bit over cast. Lots of us at KR3 and over at KR4. I always check https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lon=-158.09326171874994&lat=21.49087551879188 for updates on forecasts.
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I don’t know about last Friday or Saturday. But past Sunday was nice and a bit over cast. Lots of us at KR3 and over at KR4. I always check https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lon=-158.09326171874994&lat=21.49087551879188 for updates on forecasts.
Oh, ya. Sunday wasn't too bad. Was camping, not that far from Schofield. Wasn't too windy Sunday morning. Lots of downed limps as we were making our way to my friend's camp site.
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i hope you guys helped them out...
Oh, ya. Sunday wasn't too bad. Was camping, not that far from Schofield. Wasn't too windy Sunday morning. Lots of downed limps as we were making our way to my friend's camp site.
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i hope you guys helped them out...
they tried to jack someone who shoots low left, so right leg as all buss. . .
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wall! wall! wall!
they tried to jack someone who shoots low left, so right leg as all buss. . .
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Sunday 18 December on E Range
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(https://i.imgur.com/LULuueN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qJLkW3G.jpg)
KR3 on Dec 18th. The sky split open at 11 o'clock and dumped buckets of rain all of a sudden, "the storm has arrived". prior to that had been clear, and occasional slight drizzle. at times the fog descended down to obscure the 500yd targets, but also frequently cleared to 1,500yds. hit and miss. We had actually two hardcore diehard shooters today, thank you, made it worthwhile to open up. We finally threw in the towel and closed up shop at 11.
and that was the last SRGC rifle/pistol shooting day for this year.
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Thanks rpol98 for staying open through the wind and rain had fun shooting today.
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Thanks rpol98 for staying open through the wind and rain had fun shooting today.
:shaka:
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KR3 on Dec 18th. The sky split open at 11 o'clock and dumped buckets of rain all of a sudden, "the storm has arrived". prior to that had been clear, and occasional slight drizzle. at times the fog descended down to obscure the 500yd targets, but also frequently cleared to 1,500yds. hit and miss. We had actually two hardcore diehard shooters today, thank you, made it worthwhile to open up. We finally threw in the towel and closed up shop at 11.
and that was the last SRGC rifle/pistol shooting day for this year.
That’s awesome! Def props to the range staff that ran the range. Hope those die hards had fun!
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Looks like calm winds and sunny skies this weekend. @drck1000, @ren, you guys coming out this weekend? Weather goin be good! No need even run the Kestrel on live.. or no even goin need one.. 😂
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Gonna be there Sunday, KR3. Hopefully can put steel out at 150…
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Looks like calm winds and sunny skies this weekend. @drck1000, @ren, you guys coming out this weekend? Weather goin be good! No need even run the Kestrel on live.. or no even goin need one.. 😂
Damn, can't make it this weekend. Got my membership card tho. Which reminds me I have to register my rifles, oh and load up some ammo. ;D
Have fun, shoot well, share how your day(s) went! :thumbsup:
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Damn, can't make it this weekend. Got my membership card tho. Which reminds me I have to register my rifles, oh and load up some ammo. ;D
Have fun, shoot well, share how your day(s) went! :thumbsup:
Man! You better get them rifles registered soon.. So far we’ve been blessed with nice weather. Literally no winds this weekend? 🤩
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Gonna be there Sunday, KR3. Hopefully can put steel out at 150…
Nice! I’m there Saturday. Though probably gonna shoot Sunday. rpoL98 is running kr3 this whole weekend. Thank you rpoL98!
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Nice! I’m there Saturday. Though probably gonna shoot Sunday. rpoL98 is running kr3 this whole weekend. Thank you rpoL98!
Speaking of which. . .
rpoL98 - Please let me know when the next Range Control brief is, or when SRGC has a brief. I recall they used to setup a brief for the RSOs. So don't have to go to the brief with the active duty folks and get briefed on ALL of the Army Garrison Hawaii ranges.
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Man! You better get them rifles registered soon.. So far we’ve been blessed with nice weather. Literally no winds this weekend? 🤩
Ya. Gotta get off my a$$ and head over to Shafter. Maybe today or this weekend.
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Ya. Gotta get off my a$$ and head over to Shafter. Maybe today or this weekend.
Why register this weekend? When you can register today then shoot this weekend? :geekdanc:
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Speaking of which. . .
rpoL98 - Please let me know when the next Range Control brief is, or when SRGC has a brief. I recall they used to setup a brief for the RSOs. So don't have to go to the brief with the active duty folks and get briefed on ALL of the Army Garrison Hawaii ranges.
@drck1000 still the same format, some Saturday morning. I'll have to be on the look-out for that, and will "try my darndest to remember" to give you a heads-up. My own renewal is coming up also, FWIW.
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Nice turnout this weekend at kr3. Thanks again at rpoL98 .. :shaka:
Some gun porn… >:D
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Speaking of which. . .
rpoL98 - Please let me know when the next Range Control brief is, or when SRGC has a brief. I recall they used to setup a brief for the RSOs. So don't have to go to the brief with the active duty folks and get briefed on ALL of the Army Garrison Hawaii ranges.
@drck1000 January 28th (Saturday).
wow, record turnout this weekend at KR3, OMG. I guess due to KHSC closure. Kind of a delayed reaction ... lots of new faces, nice! :)
We got shut down at 2pm on Saturday due to the Burn Index going RED (not the same as Rhed) ;D. Sunday we had light mist (with the occasional boom of 50BMG), supposedly "scattered showers", so we were spared from Burn Index shut-down. Summer months are going to be "interesting".
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@drck1000 January 28th (Saturday).
wow, record turnout this weekend at KR3, OMG. I guess due to KHSC closure. Kind of a delayed reaction ... lots of new faces, nice! :)
We got shut down at 2pm on Saturday due to the Burn Index going RED (not the same as Rhed) ;D. Sunday we had light mist (with the occasional boom of 50BMG), supposedly "scattered showers", so we were spared from Burn Index shut-down. Summer months are going to be "interesting".
Yes! That BMG was crazy. My son and me got to shoot that beast. What’s crazy about it too was the turbulence(I think that what’s it called) from that 650 gr projectile. Would literally knock down the 100 and 300 yrd pop ups. As it pass right over it. Normally you hear a lag of flight time to impact at 1k with .308. The 50? As soon as I pulled the trigger, impact report came right after! That quick! Like shooting 100 yards with .308. 😂
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:worship:Yes! That BMG was crazy. My son and me got to shoot that beast. What’s crazy about it too was the turbulence(I think that what’s it called) from that 650 gr projectile. Would literally knock down the 100 and 300 yrd pop ups. As it pass right over it. Normally you hear a lag of flight time to impact at 1k with .308. The 50? As soon as I pulled the trigger, impact report came right after! That quick! Like shooting 100 yards with .308. 😂
Thanks to a fellow member offering other members at the range to shoot his 50! :shaka:
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Nice turnout this weekend at kr3. Thanks again at rpoL98 .. :shaka:
Flexing on the poors
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Flexing on the poors
i'm glad you said it, and not me. ;D
although truthfully, I think @Rhed was inspired by your set-up.
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some glitch causing double posts when trying to edit or correct typos. :grrr:
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Lots of fancy rifles this past weekend.
Thanks to all that made the range happen :thumbsup: Suggest moving the edge of the firing line back about 2 feet so that positions were on more flat terrain. I was struggling to maintain elevation in all positions :shaka:.
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Lots of fancy rifles this past weekend.
Thanks to all that made the range happen :thumbsup: Suggest moving the edge of the firing line back about 2 feet so that positions were on more flat terrain. I was struggling to maintain elevation in all positions :shaka:.
@Ren i'll try to do a better job at slotting you in to a better (flatter) parking slot next time, sorry you ended up in the overflow parking in the tall grass rolling hills with the recreational folks shooting faux suppressed 22LR, and being rained on by AK47 steel cases. I actually do put some thought into the prospective shooters needs when I park them, but alas, subject to resources available at the time. we had triple our previous max turnouts these past 2 days, not making excuses. definitely food-for-thought for the OIC. Previous two Saturday KR3 shooting days, we had 1 shooter. no kidding. 1 solitary shooter. and alluvasudden, it's frickin' Woodstock 1969. "Event Planning", I guess it's a thing...
I appreciate your comment. there were a lot of lessons learned this weekend. Thank goodness I don't have to write up an After-Action-Report (AAR). :shaka:
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Flexing on the poors
😝 well, I chickened s**t on the rain at around 1300. And rpoL98 was calling me out on that casually saying “we still have 1hr more of shooting to go!” 🤢 Didn’t have any excuse to that until the wifey text and said she was hungry. So I had an excuse to pack it up.. so yea, seeing the gear getting rained on started to make me nauseous.. 😂 though, I did take your idea about the whole compressor thing..
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Lots of fancy rifles this past weekend.
Thanks to all that made the range happen :thumbsup: Suggest moving the edge of the firing line back about 2 feet so that positions were on more flat terrain. I was struggling to maintain elevation in all positions :shaka:.
ren.. I was goin come by to say wassup! But you look too serious. I got kinda intimidated with your whole setup for competition style shooting..
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My son shooting the BMG. Owner of another member who generously letting anyone wants to shoot it.
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ren.. I was goin come by to say wassup! But you look too serious. I got kinda intimidated with your whole setup for competition style shooting..
I was just listening to the voice in my head. this guy's voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPVVeKY_puY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPVVeKY_puY)
My "setup" is pake style. Everyone to the left of me shooting all that ammo could've paid for most of my stuff. I could only afford to shoot rimfire over the weekend. :-\ Everytime that 50 cal shot that was 2 gallons of gas for my hybrid.
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I was just listening to the voice in my head. this guy's voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPVVeKY_puY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPVVeKY_puY)
My "setup" is pake style. Everyone to the left of me shooting all that ammo could've paid for most of my stuff. I could only afford to shoot rimfire over the weekend. :-\ Everytime that 50 cal shot that was 2 gallons of gas for my hybrid.
(https://i.imgur.com/HFJSIPz.gif)
Ren's post so deserves a meme reply... ;D
no wonder you looked so unhappy the whole time!
and I thought it was because of that mean old OIC.
AmmoSeek shows .50 cal ball ammo for less than $3 a pop. Lake City.
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I was just listening to the voice in my head. this guy's voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPVVeKY_puY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPVVeKY_puY)
My "setup" is pake style. Everyone to the left of me shooting all that ammo could've paid for most of my stuff. I could only afford to shoot rimfire over the weekend. :-\ Everytime that 50 cal shot that was 2 gallons of gas for my hybrid.
I hear you brotha.. when I pulled the trigger of that 50, it reminded me of a max bet pull of a slot machine I played at Vegas. That BMG @ Hi state was definitely flexing for the pours. I went back to my rifle and I felt like my setup was a pellet gun.
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I hear you brotha.. when I pulled the trigger of that 50, it reminded me of a max bet pull of a slot machine I played at Vegas. That BMG @ Hi state was definitely flexing for the poors. I went back to my rifle and I felt like my setup was a pellet gun.
i've seen lightly used Barrett Model 82A1's going for about $8K on GB, although none right now, i've been wishful thinking, window shopping, bolt-action Barretts for less than $5K, but, just sayin' ...
yeah, I'm absolutely no help when it comes to trying to maintain a budget.
click-click-buy, drop ship to your favorite FFL, all it takes is your VISA and your rifle permit. easy-peasy.
Please don't take me seriously. I have a warped sense of humor.
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Since KHSC closed been dry firing between my other projects and work. When I finally hit the range this weekend, things didn't pan out the way I visualized - so I was trying to find solutions. First was gear. New glasses, spotter and a used SLED. Couldn't find a local prescription lense maker for Radians. Glad I went back to a Kowa - can see mirage better now. And my stupid Sinclair SLED wasn't locking back. Time to get a Bob Sled.
And it was too hot. Who ever was in charge of the AC should be fired. And there was no shade. Shade OIC should be fired.
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😝 well, I chickened s**t on the rain at around 1300. And rpoL98 was calling me out on that casually saying “we still have 1hr more of shooting to go!” 🤢 Didn’t have any excuse to that until the wifey text and said she was hungry. So I had an excuse to pack it up.. so yea, seeing the gear getting rained on started to make me nauseous.. 😂 though, I did take your idea about the whole compressor thing..
I figured you both would of been doing the rain dance.
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@drck1000 January 28th (Saturday).
wow, record turnout this weekend at KR3, OMG. I guess due to KHSC closure. Kind of a delayed reaction ... lots of new faces, nice! :)
We got shut down at 2pm on Saturday due to the Burn Index going RED (not the same as Rhed) ;D. Sunday we had light mist (with the occasional boom of 50BMG), supposedly "scattered showers", so we were spared from Burn Index shut-down. Summer months are going to be "interesting".
Awesome! I signed up to attend.
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For getting prepped for the next range day, I will mostly be noting velocities for some test load. Other than that, I want to shoot 100 yards for bolt gun and 50 and 100 yards for rimfire. What is the system for targets these days? Are there stands or racks set? Or have to bring own stand and frame and set them at appropriate distances?
I don't recall the last time I shot at KR3 or KR4.
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For getting prepped for the next range day, I will mostly be noting velocities for some test load. Other than that, I want to shoot 100 yards for bolt gun and 50 and 100 yards for rimfire. What is the system for targets these days? Are there stands or racks set? Or have to bring own stand and frame and set them at appropriate distances?
I don't recall the last time I shot at KR3 or KR4.
you should be totally self-sufficient. I recommend you bring your own target frame, stand, and means of anchoring to the ground (8" - 10" tent stakes work good).
if you're shooting semi-auto, you really, really need to be using a brass-catcher or a tarp, especially with 22LR, because you are responsible for policing your brass, and sometimes your shooting position is in tall grass. When we're done for the day, the Army inspects the range to make sure it's clean, and we're accountable for that, even if it wasn't when we signed it out.
If you're putting out a paper target at KR3, it's at 100yds. I sent you a PM with some amplifying info.
At KR4, you can put out (multiple) targets near and afar and in-between, e.g. CCW style, but you're limited to the fence line, appx 80yds, for max target distance. From certain KR4 shooting positions you can see the top of a rusty old tank turret at about 380 yds. ;D
sounds to me that if you want to shoot 50yds and 100yds, you might have to split that between the two ranges, sorry.
I recommend you bring a folding table and chair, or a shooting mat. and sun-screen. As @Ren pointed out, there is no shade and no AC, and we've brought this to the attention of mgmt. They've assured us they have Top Men, yes, Top Men working on it. ;D
However, there is shade at KR4, and after 11am, you'll find all the old-timers congregated under the trees, talk story for hours. It's a regular "social hour" down there, all quiet on the range, though. There's some funny stories ...
previously posted pic of KR4, mental refresher:
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you should be totally self-sufficient. I recommend you bring your own target frame, stand, and means of anchoring to the ground (8" - 10" tent stakes work good).
if you're shooting semi-auto, you really, really need to be using a brass-catcher or a tarp, especially with 22LR, because you are responsible for policing your brass, and sometimes your shooting position is in tall grass. When we're done for the day, the Army inspects the range to make sure it's clean, and we're accountable for that, even if it wasn't when we signed it out.
If you're putting out a paper target at KR3, it's at 100yds. I sent you a PM with some amplifying info.
At KR4, you can put out (multiple) targets near and afar and in-between, e.g. CCW style, but you're limited to the fence line, appx 80yds, for max target distance. From certain KR4 shooting positions you can see the top of a rusty old tank turret at about 380 yds. ;D
sounds to me that if you want to shoot 50yds and 100yds, you might have to split that between the two ranges, sorry.
I recommend you bring a folding table and chair, or a shooting mat. and sun-screen. As @Ren pointed out, there is no shade and no AC, and we've brought this to the attention of mgmt. They've assured us they have Top Men, yes, Top Men working on it. ;D
However, there is shade at KR4, and after 11am, you'll find all the old-timers congregated under the trees, talk story for hours. It's a regular "social hour" down there, all quiet on the range, though. There's some funny stories ...
previously posted pic of KR4, mental refresher:
Great. I don't have my own target stands, but easy peasy to get a viable setup.
Noted on the brass. Being a prior RSO, went through that. Especially the part of picking up .22 lr brass afterwards. Where I swear and area was clear, the shooter left, then would find plenty of brass. Depended on angle at which you were looking. If I shoot .22 lr rifle, would be bolt action. But still noted on the brass. I have a shooting mat and a small tarp as well.
I wouldn't likely shoot 50 yard with .22 lr same day as the 100 yards. Maybe, but noted on the different ranges. Eventually, I would like opportunity to shoot more pistol at SRGC, but I have opportunity to do my pistol shooting elsewhere. It's the rifles, particularly the 6.5 cm I want to get back to load development. Then maybe the steel at KR3.
For the no AC part, haha. All good and I'm used to that. I vaguely recall the setup on the pic you posted. Seems like the road is much improved from when I was last a member. Seems like I'll look for days for KR3 for 100 yards. While I would be down to shoot groups at say 200-600, that's not a keen interest. And yeah, I would need a golf cart or something for targets at those distances. ;D
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Brownells & Midway have some foldable angle-iron target stands at reasonable prices. Starting to show up at KR3...
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Brownells & Midway have some foldable angle-iron target stands at reasonable prices. Starting to show up at KR3...
Yeah, I am going to order one, or maybe two from Midway. Thinking of what else I can get for free shipping. ;D
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those foldable 4-wheel carts, like for picnic use, are popular for hauling all your gear out of your car to the firing line. the ones with the fabric sides. If you buy it new, you'll have to store it outside for a few months because those cheap chinese rubber tires stink to high-heaven for a long time. and don't store them on the carpet. black stains, not removable >:(
also, the 2-wheeled stackable plastic rolling tool boxes.
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heads
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Great. I don't have my own target stands, but easy peasy to get a viable setup.
Noted on the brass. Being a prior RSO, went through that. Especially the part of picking up .22 lr brass afterwards. Where I swear and area was clear, the shooter left, then would find plenty of brass. Depended on angle at which you were looking. If I shoot .22 lr rifle, would be bolt action. But still noted on the brass. I have a shooting mat and a small tarp as well.
I wouldn't likely shoot 50 yard with .22 lr same day as the 100 yards. Maybe, but noted on the different ranges. Eventually, I would like opportunity to shoot more pistol at SRGC, but I have opportunity to do my pistol shooting elsewhere. It's the rifles, particularly the 6.5 cm I want to get back to load development. Then maybe the steel at KR3.
For the no AC part, haha. All good and I'm used to that. I vaguely recall the setup on the pic you posted. Seems like the road is much improved from when I was last a member. Seems like I'll look for days for KR3 for 100 yards. While I would be down to shoot groups at say 200-600, that's not a keen interest. And yeah, I would need a golf cart or something for targets at those distances. ;D
100-300 can set out targets. Well 300, up to OIC @rpoL98 that day. After 300, just shoot the gongs brah! I’d imagine if get plenty shooters show up, and you the only one out there setting target at 300, everyone waiting on you to come back. You gotta run back.. 😂
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100-300 can set out targets. Well 300, up to OIC @rpoL98 that day. After 300, just shoot the gongs brah! I’d imagine if get plenty shooters show up, and you the only one out there setting target at 300, everyone waiting on you to come back. You gotta run back.. 😂
Yeah, I’ll mostly shoot 100. Before, I would mostly shoot 7-50 and 100. There were guys who shot 600, but they left the target out there the whole day. Ya, I not running. Haha
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ideally.
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ideally.
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@ren
wow, now that's travelling First Class. Us country bumpkins at SRGC can only dream ...
curious question. is that pathway between the two yellow lines, is that supposed to be kept clear?
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glitch :grrr:
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I have no idea. Range is Palo Alto and that is their 600 yard line.. https://www.paloaltogunclub.com/therange.html (https://www.paloaltogunclub.com/therange.html)
The Army can have ranges as nice as that with all the money they spend but they / we are stuck in the paradigm of "train as we fight" "We've been doing it THIS way for as long as I remember"... OK, so when do we zero then stop and check on groups downrange without using any type of spotter? Waste time. And oh yeah, Soldiers don't load their own mags at the qual range....too much risk
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ideally.
(https://i.postimg.cc/rpQDdM43/F05-BB779-8-AA4-4-BCB-B802-4-B1-C561-CC878.jpg)
Holy first class kind range.. Must be comfortable. Though wishful thinking, I’d rather have night shooting at Kr3 than shade like that. Cheaper for the Army at no cost to them. Just more cost to us members to shoot at night, lol..
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Pu'uloa Rifle and Pistol Club participates in the Marine Corps Marksmanship Competition - Pacific. It's 2 weeks of shooting government provided ammo with government weapons.
The first week is free instruction from the Marine Corps Shooting Team. The second week is individual and team competition.
https://imgur.com/t6dbeKC
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@Teichi
your pics are always interesting, moar pics please. :shaka:
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What is KR8A?
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What is KR8A?
it's a recent addition to the SRGC available ranges. I've never been there. I'll check it out tomorrow (Saturday, 8 Apr). One rifle shooter who was there last weekend said it's "pretty nice". Not sure how to interpret that, big unknown to me at this time is "how far".
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KR8A was actually pretty fun shooting.
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KR-8A
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it's about 90 yds to the berm, from the firing line, +/-, depending on where the OIC puts the firing line. It might be a struggle to make it 100yds, real estate and geometry and all that. We'll have to figure it out. rifle, pistol, & shotgun.
I'm told, KR8A used to be mortar firing points, that's why the tower is down there by the berms (mortar pits), to spot the mortar impacts, i'm surmising.
it was a nice day, no rain, some clouds, some breeze. that's the perfect combo.
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Anyone know what’s been going on the past two months for Scholfield, KR3 has been open less than KR4 like 3-4 fold. I think KR3 has been open only 2-3 times the past two months. A lot of cancelations, late last year and earlier this year there were a lot of range dates.
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Anyone know what’s been going on the past two months for Scholfield, KR3 has been open less than KR4 like 3-4 fold. I think KR3 has been open only 2-3 times the past two months. A lot of cancelations, late last year and earlier this year there were a lot of range dates.
no volunteers ? It's a challenge to get all the credentials. I have an OIC/RSO card from Schofield but I can't help run the range without CPR and NRA certs.
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Anyone know what’s been going on the past two months for Schofield, KR3 has been open less than KR4 like 3-4 fold. I think KR3 has been open only 2-3 times the past two months. A lot of cancellations, late last year and earlier this year there were a lot of range dates.
different folks running the show now, I'm no longer in the loop.
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no volunteers ? It's a challenge to get all the credentials. I have an OIC/RSO card from Schofield but I can't help run the range without CPR and NRA certs.
I think you already have the NRA cert. Just need First AID cert. if I’m not mistaken. Though, from what I’ve heard since recently being run differently, only selective people is able to OIC now. So probably wouldn’t matter if one has the certs anyway.
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I don't have the NRA cert but if anyone knows a class or instructor please let me know as well as the CPR requirement. My CPR cert has lapsed years ago.
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I don't have the NRA cert but if anyone knows a class or instructor please let me know as well as the CPR requirement. My CPR cert has lapsed years ago.
Affidavit for pistol. So if you took the pistol class, that should be NRA cert.
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Seems like hpd could use better instructors or perhaps better recruits too.
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I don't have the NRA cert but if anyone knows a class or instructor please let me know as well as the CPR requirement. My CPR cert has lapsed years ago.
I've used this one for the CPR cert, $15. pretty straight-forward. good for 2 yrs.
https://www.nationalcprfoundation.com/courses/ (https://www.nationalcprfoundation.com/courses/)
ETA:
you don't need the CPR if you're only going to RSO. You only need the CPR Cert if you're going to OIC.
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Anyone know what’s been going on the past two months for Scholfield, KR3 has been open less than KR4 like 3-4 fold. I think KR3 has been open only 2-3 times the past two months. A lot of cancelations, late last year and earlier this year there were a lot of range dates.
Yea I’ve heard the communication for volunteer for those ranges is vague now. It used to be by email from what heard. Which is probably most effective since it leaves a paper trail of some sort. I really don’t know though.
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I think you already have the NRA cert. Just need First AID cert. if I’m not mistaken. Though, from what I’ve heard since recently being run differently, only selective people is able to OIC now. So probably wouldn’t matter if one has the certs anyway.
I inquired about RSO class/training. Someone emailed me maybe 4-5 months about about a brief setup for SRGC folks, but they never got back to me. I was RSO and OIC qualified during my previous membership stint. I would volunteer more than shoot. Had a cool bunch of RSOs and OICs.
Willing to volunteer again, but haven't gotten any response to my inquiries.
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KR-8A
it's about 90 yds to the berm, from the firing line, +/-, depending on where the OIC puts the firing line. It might be a struggle to make it 100yds, real estate and geometry and all that. We'll have to figure it out. rifle, pistol, & shotgun.
I'm told, KR8A used to be mortar firing points, that's why the tower is down there by the berms (mortar pits), to spot the mortar impacts, i'm surmising.
it was a nice day, no rain, some clouds, some breeze. that's the perfect combo.
Looks like a good opportunity for pistol and .22 lr rifle. For pistol, if can setup stands in the 5-25 yard range and somewhat frequent opportunity to go downrange for target change/repair.
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I was asked by SRGC to do a NRA RSO class for their RSO's a while back, but I put it on the back burner cause they weren't interested in 2A advocacy.
I may reconsider it if there was a change in leadership.
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Sounds like a clown is running the circus
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The change in range procedures may have something to do with their accidental shooting at the shotgun range.
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I was asked by SRGC to do a NRA RSO class for their RSO's a while back, but I put it on the back burner cause they weren't interested in 2A advocacy.
I may reconsider it if there was a change in leadership.
The change in range procedures may have something to do with their accidental shooting at the shotgun range.
Todd, I recently rejoined the club after several years. The past meetings I've attended they presented a state of affairs in the 2a operational environment. I believe the person who always starts the discussion is/was an attorney. What are your specific requirements for 2A advocacy?
The shotgun incident was awhile back.
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I was asked by SRGC to do a NRA RSO class for their RSO's a while back, but I put it on the back burner cause they weren't interested in 2A advocacy.
I may reconsider it if there was a change in leadership.
When I was RSO (and OIC qualified) previously, just needed to sit through the Range Control's brief. I sat through one at the Chapel once, and another that Range Control setup just for SRGC.
I'm NRA RSO cert as well, but was told that didn't matter for Range Control.
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The change in range procedures may have something to do with their accidental shooting at the shotgun range.
I don’t think that’s it. When range re-opened after the accidental discharge investigation, it was smooth sailing after that. Lots of open dates for months. The person who use to OIC Kr3 almost exclusively all the time when no one could, ran it very strict and attentive but smooth. Which is how it supposed to be. After just a few months ago, there was some changes to upper management that runs those specific ranges, and specific requirements to the range, mainly kr3 which is the 100-1600 yrd range. That’s about the same time when it started to have no range dates open or volunteers, then cancellations. I don’t know if it’s the way things just abruptly change as to why no volunteers or a communication issue. And we all know, communication is key. I mean it’s a club with paying members that keep the club going. Not a place of employment where the members get paid like an employee. And has to apply for work. Doesn’t work that way. Volunteer has to come by asking for volunteers first. Not waiting like you a boss at work to get some ass kissin. It works the opposite now when need volunteers. If not, no one will. Well that’s my assumption anyways. I could be wrong though.. I’m just a random guy.
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I don’t think that’s it. When range re-opened after the accidental discharge investigation, it was smooth sailing after that. Lots of open dates for months. The person who use to OIC Kr3 almost exclusively all the time when no one could, ran it very strict and attentive but smooth. Which is how it supposed to be. After just a few months ago, there was some changes to upper management that runs those specific ranges, and specific requirements to the range, mainly kr3 which is the 100-1600 yrd range. That’s about the same time when it started to have no range dates open or volunteers. I don’t know if it’s the way things just abruptly change as to why no volunteers or a communication issue. And we all know, communication is key. I mean it’s a club with paying members that keep the club going. Not a place of employment where the members get paid like an employee. And has to apply for work. Doesn’t work that way. Volunteer has to come by asking for volunteers first. Not waiting like you a boss at work to get some ass kissin. It works the opposite now when need volunteers. If not, no one will. Well that’s my assumption anyways. I could be wrong though.. I’m just a random guy.
Thank you (and others) for updates. I'm looking to get back into shooting my bolt action rifles again soon. So hopefully things get ironed out. If you (or others) catch wind of need for volunteers, RSOs, OICs, etc, please share. Like you mentioned, communication is key. I've reached out to SRGC membership, RSO contacts, etc and don't get much response.
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Thank you (and others) for updates. I'm looking to get back into shooting my bolt action rifles again soon. So hopefully things get ironed out. If you (or others) catch wind of need for volunteers, RSOs, OICs, etc, please share. Like you mentioned, communication is key. I've reached out to SRGC membership, RSO contacts, etc and don't get much response.
Yea.. hopefully next month will have some range dates without any cancellations. It’s a great club with good members. All friendly kine people. Really nice place for shoot.
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Novel idea for you guys.
Give up on Hawaii.
Let me be clear I still live here with my wife who is a voting resident
we own acreage and have two houses here.
But I'm also a legal voting resident of WA state.
which is just a little less "blue" than Hawaii
I don't have to beg the police to buy a gun, register those guns, and I have cheap access to 1,000 meter shooting ranges.
I have stable property owning family there so it is easy to do. Airfare is pretty cheap these days.
It is $140 for an inter-island round trip from the BI to Oahu
$560 round trip from BI to Seattle.
That is not even a monthly car payment difference.
I've bitched about Hawaii laws for years here so I fixed it.
Fuk Hawaii gun laws.
I can't deal with your local Democrats so I go elsewhere.
At least I'll get to shoot as I PLEASE! when i please.
No government employees involved.
A novel concept for Hawaiians.
:shaka:
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Novel idea for you guys.
Give up on Hawaii.
Let me be clear I still live here with my wife who is a voting resident
we own acreage and have two houses here.
But I'm also a legal voting resident of WA state.
which is just a little less "blue" than Hawaii
I don't have to beg the police to buy a gun, register those guns, and I have cheap access to 1,000 meter shooting ranges.
I have stable property owning family there so it is easy to do. Airfare is pretty cheap these days.
It is $140 for an inter-island round trip from the BI to Oahu
$560 round trip from BI to Seattle.
That is not even a monthly car payment difference.
I've bitched about Hawaii laws for years here so I fixed it.
Fuk Hawaii gun laws.
I can't deal with your local Democrats so I go elsewhere.
At least I'll get to shoot as I PLEASE! when i please.
No government employees involved.
A novel concept for Hawaiians.
:shaka:
I like Hawaii..I born and raised here. I like the beaches, fishing, people, food, culture. But here does come with some living expenses.
Now our gun laws.. Not the greatest.. but I still got what I wanted. My biggest gripe which have been for years is, why the f**k can’t we have suppressors when other states can? And now comes the “no ccw in so called sensitive places”. Then all training and classes to acquire and firearm will have to be taken through HPD? Now that is about the money. Ah sh*t! Sorry went off topic for a bit..
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I like Hawaii..I born and raised here. I like the beaches, fishing, people, food, culture. But here does come with some living expenses.
Now our gun laws.. Not the greatest.. but I still got what I wanted. My biggest gripe which have been for years is, why the f**k can’t we have suppressors when other states can? And now comes the “no ccw in so called sensitive places”. Then all training and classes to acquire and firearm will have to be taken through HPD? Now that is about the money. Ah sh*t! Sorry went off topic for a bit..
I'm probably a little more traveled than you are.
Hawaii is obnoxiously self absorbed in it's imagined
importance. It isn't shit.
I have more respect for the Makah tribe than Hawaiians.
as an example.
You Democrats suck!
Hawaiians should have their own government, casinos, and what ever.
Instead you let Japanese, Chinese, and other government centrist
Democrat people control you.
All you want to is blame white people like me, when we are your
best road map to freedom.
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Novel idea for you guys.
Give up on Hawaii.
Let me be clear I still live here with my wife who is a voting resident
we own acreage and have two houses here.
But I'm also a legal voting resident of WA state.
which is just a little less "blue" than Hawaii
I don't have to beg the police to buy a gun, register those guns, and I have cheap access to 1,000 meter shooting ranges.
I have stable property owning family there so it is easy to do. Airfare is pretty cheap these days.
It is $140 for an inter-island round trip from the BI to Oahu
$560 round trip from BI to Seattle.
That is not even a monthly car payment difference.
I've bitched about Hawaii laws for years here so I fixed it.
Fuk Hawaii gun laws.
I can't deal with your local Democrats so I go elsewhere.
At least I'll get to shoot as I PLEASE! when i please.
No government employees involved.
A novel concept for Hawaiians.
:shaka:
you should shoot when you please you sure do need the practice Air Force :thumbsup:
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I'm probably a little more traveled than you are.
Hawaii is obnoxiously self absorbed in it's imagined
importance. It isn't shit.
I have more respect for the Makah tribe than Hawaiians.
as an example.
You Democrats suck!
Hawaiians should have their own government, casinos, and what ever.
Instead you let Japanese, Chinese, and other government centrist
Democrat people control you.
All you want to is blame white people like me, when we are your
best road map to freedom.
Wait.. you telling me I’m blaming white people?
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I'm probably a little more traveled than you are.
Hawaii is obnoxiously self absorbed in it's imagined
importance. It isn't shit.
I have more respect for the Makah tribe than Hawaiians.
as an example.
You Democrats suck!
Hawaiians should have their own government, casinos, and what ever.
Instead you let Japanese, Chinese, and other government centrist
Democrat people control you.
All you want to is blame white people like me, when we are your
best road map to freedom.
Don’t think anyone blamed you in this forum, anyone on this immediate thread. I’m not Hawaiian so I can’t speak for what people think but you might be letting things get to your head a little too much people blame other people other than whites so stop playing victim. I don’t know how this is even remotely related to the range dates of scholfield, I get your previous reply was related by solving the problem yourself but this reply you made was just thrown in there. What do you hope to achieve with this, I’m sure many others know what you’re talking about. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Thank you (and others) for updates. I'm looking to get back into shooting my bolt action rifles again soon. So hopefully things get ironed out. If you (or others) catch wind of need for volunteers, RSOs, OICs, etc, please share. Like you mentioned, communication is key. I've reached out to SRGC membership, RSO contacts, etc and don't get much response.
Did you receive your membership card? I know at one point you reapplied again after, being a former member back then.
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Did you receive your membership card? I know at one point you reapplied again after, being a former member back then.
Yup. Good to go. Have to register a couple of rifles I want to shoot at SRGC, but otherwise all set. Do need to load up some ammo and revive my notes from where I left of when KHSC shut down.
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Hopefully I'll be there this Sat.
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600 yard line Sunday 20 August 2023
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600 yard line Sunday 20 August 2023
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https://imgur.com/fkOWK2q
looks like a beautiful shooting day. that blue sky is just sumtin' else. and a so-far-away berm, in contrast to KHSC. awesome! is it just approved service rifles only? e.g. 20" AR-15's, M1A, Garands, etc? AR-10's? is 6.5CM ok? are M4A1's allowed (admittedly hopeless at 600yds)? looks like a very disciplined measured endeavor.
thanks for posting, you definitely need to post more pics, more often.
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looks like a beautiful shooting day. that blue sky is just sumtin' else. and a so-far-away berm, in contrast to KHSC. awesome! is it just approved service rifles only? e.g. 20" AR-15's, M1A, Garands, etc? AR-10's? is 6.5CM ok? are M4A1's allowed (admittedly hopeless at 600yds)? looks like a very disciplined measured endeavor.
thanks for posting, you definitely need to post more pics, more often.
all of the above are OK. limited to the calibers you mentioned.
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all of the above are OK. limited to the calibers you mentioned.
I’m assuming military type cartridges only? 5.56, 7.62?
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I’m assuming military type cartridges only? 5.56, 7.62?
well, Ren said 6.5CM was GTG, and since M1 Garands shoot 30-06, I guess that's okay also, military provenance and all. in addition to 5.56 and 308 (7.62x51). Service rifles shooting service calibers. but that's just just my guess.
it being a USMC range, I'm guessing probably need USMC Provost Marshal registration.
@ren @Teichi
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well, Ren said 6.5CM was GTG, and since M1 Garands shoot 30-06, I guess that's okay also, military provenance and all. in addition to 5.56 and 308 (7.62x51). Service rifles shooting service calibers. but that's just just my guess.
it being a USMC range, I'm guessing probably need USMC Provost Marshal registration.
@ren @Teichi
Yes
In other related news - the Ewa neighborhood managed to put a short shelf life on this facility
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300 Win Mag is also allowed.
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300 Win Mag is also allowed.
Nice.. I’m venturing into the magnum world soon. Is 300 wsm or 6.5 PRC allowed?
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I've been emailing SRGC trying to start the PAM process since April and have had zero luck. The membership director seems to be asleep at the wheel or does not care, and at this point I'm ready to throw in the towel.
I've sent eight e-mails back and forth over the past six months and still have no idea how to start the process and no one is willing to help or provide any useful information.
I guess it's Koko Head or nothing.
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I've been emailing SRGC trying to start the PAM process since April and have had zero luck. The membership director seems to be asleep at the wheel or does not care, and at this point I'm ready to throw in the towel.
I've sent eight e-mails back and forth over the past six months and still have no idea how to start the process and no one is willing to help or provide any useful information.
I guess it's Koko Head or nothing.
@Fox800
the way you start the process is by showing up, in-person, at one of the monthly wednesday-night meetings. there's one tomorrow night, Sept 6th, at the SR5 Trap/Skeet range, 1900. You have to get there before 1900, because they lock the Kolekole gate when the meeting starts. 1830 is good.
Trap/Skeet calender shows a club monthly meeting scheduled for Sep 6th: https://www.srgchi.org/calendar.html (https://www.srgchi.org/calendar.html)
map to SR5 (meeting location) here, bottom right of the page: https://www.srgchi.org/rifle--pistol.html (https://www.srgchi.org/rifle--pistol.html)
be advised that the short road from Trimble Rd down to SR5 is not paved and very rough, potholes & ruts, not recommended for low-ground-clearance sports cars and such. might be construed as a obstacle course for Mazda Miata's.
Attending the monthly meeting to apply to join this elusive & secretive club is probably spelled out in one of the membership documents, such as the club bylaws, para 4.3, posted under the governance tab:
https://www.srgchi.org/publications.html (https://www.srgchi.org/publications.html)
the membership application form is under the "forms" tab.
membership application policy, and PAM policy is under the "club policies" tab.
club officers are all volunteers, and do this in their spare time.
If you're so inclined, you're more than welcome to actively participate in the meeting, and when the membership director gives his monthly report, you can raise your hand and deliver hellfire-and-brimstone and raise holy hell about how you really feel, and I'm sure the membership committee will appropriately annotate this on your pending application and prioritize your processing. ;D
all part-and-parcel of the so-called "cost of living in Hawaii", nobody every makes it easy.
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@Fox800
the way you start the process is by showing up, in-person, at one of the monthly wednesday-night meetings. there's one tomorrow night, Sept 6th, at the SR5 Trap/Skeet range, 1900. You have to get there before 1900, because they lock the Kolekole gate when the meeting starts. 1830 is good.
Trap/Skeet calender shows a club monthly meeting scheduled for Sep 6th: https://www.srgchi.org/calendar.html (https://www.srgchi.org/calendar.html)
map to SR5 (meeting location) here, bottom right of the page: https://www.srgchi.org/rifle--pistol.html (https://www.srgchi.org/rifle--pistol.html)
be advised that the short road from Trimble Rd down to SR5 is not paved and very rough, potholes & ruts, not recommended for low-ground-clearance sports cars and such. might be construed as a obstacle course for Mazda Miata's.
Attending the monthly meeting to apply to join this elusive & secretive club is probably spelled out in one of the membership documents, such as the club bylaws, para 4.3, posted under the governance tab:
https://www.srgchi.org/publications.html (https://www.srgchi.org/publications.html)
the membership application form is under the "forms" tab.
membership application policy, and PAM policy is under the "club policies" tab.
club officers are all volunteers, and do this in their spare time.
If you're so inclined, you're more than welcome to actively participate in the meeting, and when the membership director gives his monthly report, you can raise your hand and deliver hellfire-and-brimstone and raise holy hell about how you really feel, and I'm sure the membership committee will appropriately annotate this on your pending application and prioritize your processing. ;D
all part-and-parcel of the so-called "cost of living in Hawaii", nobody every makes it easy.
Thanks for the help. I was frustrated because people were occasionally replying, but they would not actually tell me anything of substance.
Asked if they were still accepting PAM applications and how to apply, ignored.
They asked for a brief bio, I provided it, then was ignored.
Tried to follow-up multiple times across several months, ignored.
You're the first person to actually help me! Thank you.
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Thanks for the help. I was frustrated because people were occasionally replying, but they would not actually tell me anything of substance.
Asked if they were still accepting PAM applications and how to apply, ignored.
I.e. they asked for a brief bio, I provided it, then was ignored.
Tried to follow-up multiple times across several months, ignored.
You're the first person to actually help me! Thank you.
:shaka:
the club-member sentry at the Kolekole gate will usually wave you on through, after all, who else would be on this road at this time. But if you feel compelled to say something to the sentry, the secret password is "SRGC meeting".
entrance to SR5 is directly opposite of the entrance to KR3. Take a left, and then the dirt road that veers to the left and down.
the last monthly minutes publication that had a membership status report is May 2023 ("2023.05"), under the Newsletters/Minutes tab: https://www.srgchi.org/publications.html (https://www.srgchi.org/publications.html)
still had some openings at that time. July, August meeting minutes haven't been posted yet, that "all volunteer" thing.
October's club meeting is tentatively scheduled for Oct 11th, usually the 2nd Wednesday of each month, unless there's some Army range scheduling conflict, like there was this month (Sept). Always at 1900, annotated on the Trap/Skeet schedule. (https://www.srgchi.org/calendar.html)
major intersection: Trimble/Kolekole Rd, and SR5 (left), KR3 (right) entrances.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipO_dY1u0qJdbCv4Gf7SpGe6E9Q9a18l19_tih2r=h1440)
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Does anyone know how we start shooting at MCBH, I heard tthere was a way you can shoot at the MCBH range? Is it apart of Pu'uloa? Thank you!
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Does anyone know how we start shooting at MCBH, I heard tthere was a way you can shoot at the MCBH range? Is it apart of Pu'uloa? Thank you!
step #1 is you have to register your weapons with the MARINE CORP provost marshal. at Kaneohe. I think the PMO is identifiable from Google Earth or Google Maps, something like that, I think it's off of 3rd Street, drive in the main gate, make a left on 3rd (traffic light), go about 320 yds, make a left into the pkg lot. I think that's where it's at.
then it's just a matter of finding out what the shooting dates are. I don't know where that's posted, maybe something to do with K-Bay MWR (Morale, Welfare & Recreation)? maybe K-Bay Range Control has the dates posted? dunno.
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step #1 is you have to register your weapons with the MARINE CORP provost marshal. at Kaneohe. I think the PMO is identifiable from Google Earth or Google Maps, something like that, I think it's off of 3rd Street, drive in the main gate, make a left on 3rd (traffic light), go about 320 yds, make a left into the pkg lot. I think that's where it's at.
then it's just a matter of finding out what the shooting dates are. I don't know where that's posted, maybe something to do with K-Bay MWR (Morale, Welfare & Recreation)? maybe K-Bay Range Control has the dates posted? dunno.
in case you didn't know DO NOT BRING YOUR FIREARMS! All you need to bring are the registration docs.
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step #1 is you have to register your weapons with the MARINE CORP provost marshal. at Kaneohe. I think the PMO is identifiable from Google Earth or Google Maps, something like that, I think it's off of 3rd Street, drive in the main gate, make a left on 3rd (traffic light), go about 320 yds, make a left into the pkg lot. I think that's where it's at.
then it's just a matter of finding out what the shooting dates are. I don't know where that's posted, maybe something to do with K-Bay MWR (Morale, Welfare & Recreation)? maybe K-Bay Range Control has the dates posted? dunno.
Someone told me open shooting was Friday’s or sometime during the week. I dunno if it’s true about times. But I’ve heard it was a nice range. I like try..
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KR8A open this weekend. Also MP101 class that wanna draw from holster also this weekend.
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KR8A open this weekend. Also MP101 class that wanna draw from holster also this weekend.
Damn. . . I'll be camping this weekend. Need to make it out to shoot soon. Need to load up some ammo too haha
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was shooting my 14.7" (P&W) 6mm ARC AR. getting consistent hits on a boulder at 1,000yds. ;D
1-10x LPVO. Hornady 108gr ELDM, Craddock RTR.
It was a nice day. and then it rained on my parade. literally. rain. Weather forecast said Sunny & Breezy. They lied. oh well.
Schofield KR3:
(https://i.imgur.com/aJmdHgR.jpg)
afore-mentioned boulder, little red arrow, upper, center of pic:
(https://i.imgur.com/dJE2tcX.jpg)
note: the closest of the white silhouettes is about 580yds.
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My pet target on KR3 is that 2nd sillouette from the left of your picture sitting on top of the dirt berm. I believe it was ranged at 875ish yards. I love taking my 18" 5.56 with a 1-8 LPVO out there to stretch the legs on my handloaded 75gr RMR bullets, practice wind calls, and reading the wind mirage. Even if I only hang out for about an hour I always learn something each trip. Good times.
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we've been getting KR3 range dates several times a month lately. For instance, August, we have 3 range dates, including this coming Saturday (23rd). This past weekend, we had 1 shooter use the range, most of our "regulars" were out-of-town. For September it looks like we have 3 KR3 range dates. Sometimes it's more, sometimes less, depending on the Army's usage and needs. I think Guard and Reservists also use it on weekends. We get what's left, and what we're able to staff. There's 6 shooting positions now, and if there's more than 6 people showing up, people buddy-up: e.g. one person shoots, one person spots. Something like that.
All firearms must be registered with the Army Provost Marshal Office (MP's) before bringing them on base. The PMO uses the HPD registration as their basis.
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SRGC site is down. Though if incase anyone wants to know, KR3 is open this Sunday 9-12. Thanks @ rpoL98
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KR3, downrange, on Saturday, Dec 13th, the day before the heavy rains.
(https://i.imgur.com/SjhMdW2.jpg)
view towards Wahiawa from atop KR3.
(https://i.imgur.com/twMMWcZ.jpg)
the pictures of KR3 all look the same, the only thing that changes is whether the grass is green, or brown, and the cloud cover. lucky for us, it didn't rain while we were there.