2aHawaii

General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: surfmaster on September 19, 2019, 11:59:11 AM

Title: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: surfmaster on September 19, 2019, 11:59:11 AM
Another company, Colt, folding to the anti-gun machine

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/19/business/colt-ar15/index.html

Have a couple of older Colt AR-15s but would not consider Colt for new purchases since the market is flooded with other, better brands. However, it's sad to see companies folding to the anti-gun establishment. Walmart and now Colt. What's next? This is the sad part, our choices are being reduced, which is a big concern.
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: drck1000 on September 19, 2019, 12:12:17 PM
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=34842.msg308507#msg308507

But yeah, there are lots of quality options for ARs.
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: rustyeleio on September 19, 2019, 12:43:28 PM
did not expect that... ::) :wtf:
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 19, 2019, 01:06:55 PM
Overpriced base model AR because they can say LE uses them, so they can charge more.  S&W M&P15 works fine.
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: Chiefjoe1911 on September 19, 2019, 01:09:24 PM
Just saw this on Colt IG
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: mrgaf on September 19, 2019, 01:13:42 PM
Just saw this on Colt IG

Meh.....never cared for their  rifles anyway.......
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: robtmc on September 19, 2019, 01:59:24 PM
What I understand, it has nothing to do with PC bullshiite.

Apparently their polices and military contracts are tying civilian production up.

Of course, leftist gun grabbers will misinterpret and do a victory lap.
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: drck1000 on September 19, 2019, 02:19:51 PM
What I understand, it has nothing to do with PC bullshiite.

Apparently their polices and military contracts are tying civilian production up.

Of course, leftist gun grabbers will misinterpret and do a victory lap.
I agree. Colt in the past has shunned the consumer market to focus on .mil/LE contracts.  To me, I thought it was mostly refocusing.  They've been left behind innovation on both their handguns (particularly 1911) as well as long guns.  Yup, people still covet specific items for specific reasons.  1911, the Pony, LE/Mil use, etc.
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: stangzilla on September 19, 2019, 03:04:50 PM
Bring back the Python and Anaconda and I will forgive you, Colt.  :D
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: mrgaf on September 19, 2019, 04:02:07 PM
Bring back the Python and Anaconda and I will forgive you, Colt.  :D

A-fracking-men to that! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: dafrtknocker on September 19, 2019, 05:19:41 PM
ABC tries to link it to Mass Shootings.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/colt-stop-manufacturing-ar-15-assault-rifle-consumer/story?id=65727090
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 19, 2019, 05:48:06 PM
The public announcement stated quite plainly that this is NOT PERMANENT.  They simply analyzed the market, and they believe it's saturated with more sporting rifles than the market can absorb.  High supply vs. lower demand = lower sales.

They can try lowering prices, but I doubt they can go low enough to really compete with some other makers' prices, especially if they can't sell enough units to make up for the price cuts.

The timing of the announcement seems coincidental, though.  This week, USAG Bill Barr is meeting with Trump to hash out a list of possible gun law changes to present to the Senate for consideration.   I wonder if Colt is wanting to get ahead of the potential call for another AWB by signaling that the current climate is already reducing their numbers.  Who knows?
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: stangzilla on July 08, 2020, 07:19:46 AM
https://warisboring.com/colt-reverses-controversial-decision-decides-to-sell-to-civilian-market-again/

colt wants a piece of the action again
probably be even more expensive than before
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: stangzilla on July 08, 2020, 07:20:29 AM
Bring back the Python and Anaconda and I will forgive you, Colt.  :D

not ready to forgive.  haven't seen a Python yet
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: zippz on July 08, 2020, 08:25:05 AM
If you're willing to pay that much for a Colt milspec rifle, then you may as well get a FN which is better quality.
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: ren on July 08, 2020, 08:25:58 AM
If you're willing to pay that much for a Colt milspec rifle, then you may as well get a FN which is better quality.

blasphemy :rofl:
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: drck1000 on July 08, 2020, 08:54:03 AM
Better quality between quality AR producers?  I guess for people who are interested in "fit and finish".  I have heard one common criticism of Colt is that their guns, uppers/lowers, etc sometimes arrive with nicks and dings.  I haven't noticed that any more over say BCM, LMT, etc. . .

Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: groveler on July 08, 2020, 09:04:17 AM
I don't own any AR platforms.
I did a count and I don't own any Colts.
In fact if it is per capita most my guns
were made by the PLA, that is Peoples
Liberation Army.
Rest are all American, Spanish, or  Italian.
I have one Smith and Wesson,  lots of Ruger.
No Colt.
Ammo availability drives my gun choices.
5.56 X 45 is not made everywhere.
7.62 X 39 is.



Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: CyberNinja808 on July 08, 2020, 09:28:16 AM
Wow, What a shame to see this happen!
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: CyberNinja808 on July 08, 2020, 09:33:46 AM
Ammo availability drives my gun choices.
5.56 X 45 is not made everywhere.
7.62 X 39 is.

5.56 doesnt have to be made everywhere, only where you live and the 556 is America's caliber. unless you plan on taking you AK's over sees to use it doesnt really matter. Anywhere and everywhere here in the USA you can find 556. That drives my gun choices in getting ARs. Just saying.
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: drck1000 on July 08, 2020, 10:57:55 AM
I don't own any AR platforms.
I did a count and I don't own any Colts.
In fact if it is per capita most my guns
were made by the PLA, that is Peoples
Liberation Army.
Rest are all American, Spanish, or  Italian.
I have one Smith and Wesson,  lots of Ruger.
No Colt.
Ammo availability drives my gun choices.
5.56 X 45 is not made everywhere.
7.62 X 39 is.
I'm an equal opportunity firearm owner/shooter.  I expanded my firearm brands and calibers over the years.  Recently though, I've come back to focusing on 5.56/.223 and 9 mm.  I still have and enjoy my 7.62x39, 45 ACP, .357/.38, .308, etc.  But not nearly as much. 
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: hvybarrels on July 08, 2020, 11:23:52 AM
5.56 doesnt have to be made everywhere, only where you live and the 556 is America's caliber. unless you plan on taking you AK's over sees to use it doesnt really matter. Anywhere and everywhere here in the USA you can find 556. That drives my gun choices in getting ARs. Just saying.

From a SHTF perspective, in Hawaii we have large stockpiles of the 5.56x45 in military bases which depend on the soldiers' willingness to let a few cases "fall off the truck". On the other hand we are geographically located in caliber-neutral territory which makes kalash rounds more likely to show up on the black market.
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: Bota-CS1 on July 08, 2020, 03:07:54 PM
It appears Colt changed their mind and are now trying to cash in on the record number of sales in the consumer market.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: hvybarrels on July 08, 2020, 03:53:24 PM
It is like they have a dart board with brand strategy ideas and every once in a while decide to shake things up a bit.
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 08, 2020, 04:25:31 PM
It's a test to see how Colt Brand loyalty correlates to repeatedly pissing-off their customers.

It's the Battered Spouse Syndrome all over again!  (You should always batter your spouse before deep frying).

"There's a sucker born every minute."  -- PT Barnum*



[*unauthoritative attribution]
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: mangosteenqueen on July 08, 2020, 04:35:55 PM
That’s weird. Didn’t Colt announce that it will resume commercial/civilian sales just recently?
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 08, 2020, 04:38:24 PM
That’s weird. Didn’t Colt announce that it will resume commercial/civilian sales just recently?

#NoFocus

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=34890.msg332540#msg332540

 :shaka:
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: hvybarrels on July 08, 2020, 05:31:28 PM
#NoFocus

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=34890.msg332540#msg332540

 :shaka:

Colt is being so erratic that any confusion is completely understandable.
Title: Re: Colt to Stop Making AR-15s for Consumers
Post by: robtmc on July 08, 2020, 07:41:00 PM
Colt is being so erratic that any confusion is completely understandable.
My buddy that bought my early Colt HBAR recently offered to sell it back.  After remembering the lack of removable.front takedown pin (you had to remove a screw) and knowing now the goofy pin diameters they foisted on us, I declined.

Oh yeah, it had a remarkably sloppy lower to upper fit, that I do not recall GI M-16s having.