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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stack_Xchange on November 26, 2019, 01:14:30 PM

Title: 458 SOCOM Bolt gun
Post by: Stack_Xchange on November 26, 2019, 01:14:30 PM
Sorry if this is the wrong place, but I wasn't sure it belongs in the "Classifieds" because I'm not necessarily buying immediately.

I'm looking for a .458 SOCOM Bolt action gun, with Hawaii dealer prices. I do not want to build on an AR platform. Looking for the 458 on maybe a Remington 700 platform.
Title: Re: 458 SOCOM Bolt gun
Post by: mrgaf on November 26, 2019, 06:49:38 PM
Might have to go custom.... Ruger makes  the American Ranch Rifle in 450 Bushmaster. I got one in 7.62x39 and it’s a real nice accurate rifle and the price is rite too. Dunno how the bushmaster compares with the 458 SOCOM though.... ;)
Title: Re: 458 SOCOM Bolt gun
Post by: tillamook on November 26, 2019, 08:36:54 PM
These guys sell a 458 SOCOM bolt action and lever action
http://www.bishopammunition.com/
Title: Re: 458 SOCOM Bolt gun
Post by: stangzilla on November 27, 2019, 07:10:22 AM
why 458 SOCOM bolt gun?
Title: Re: 458 SOCOM Bolt gun
Post by: Stack_Xchange on November 27, 2019, 11:24:55 AM
Might have to go custom.... Ruger makes  the American Ranch Rifle in 450 Bushmaster. I got one in 7.62x39 and it’s a real nice accurate rifle and the price is rite too. Dunno how the bushmaster compares with the 458 SOCOM though.... ;)

I was actually looking for something with ballistics in the middle of the 450 and 50 Beo. The 450 is a little too fast and the 50 has a little too much drop if I have to shoot something 200+ yards away. 450 is a nice caliber though!

These guys sell a 458 SOCOM bolt action and lever action
http://www.bishopammunition.com/

Yeahhhh! The 458 SOCOM Hunter is pretty much what I was looking for. Too bad it's out of stock. Do you know if any dealers/shops have one? Slim chance, but might as well ask!
Title: Re: 458 SOCOM Bolt gun
Post by: tillamook on November 27, 2019, 02:10:50 PM
I was actually looking for something with ballistics in the middle of the 450 and 50 Beo. The 450 is a little too fast and the 50 has a little too much drop if I have to shoot something 200+ yards away. 450 is a nice caliber though!

Yeahhhh! The 458 SOCOM Hunter is pretty much what I was looking for. Too bad it's out of stock. Do you know if any dealers/shops have one? Slim chance, but might as well ask!

Apparently it just got introduced at shot show so they now have a big waiting list.  I doubt you'll find a dealer with one.  But you can ask the dealer to put you on the waiting list and see what happens. 
Title: Re: 458 SOCOM Bolt gun
Post by: tillamook on November 27, 2019, 02:15:34 PM
Another manufacturer

https://www.marsarmory.com/458socom
Title: Re: 458 SOCOM Bolt gun
Post by: Stack_Xchange on November 27, 2019, 02:49:10 PM
Another manufacturer

https://www.marsarmory.com/458socom

Thanks for all the help! Now I know exactly what to ask for next time I go to the store. I got pretty lucky with a Keltec Sub2000 recently, so hopefully I'm still lucky!
Title: Re: 458 SOCOM Bolt gun
Post by: stangzilla on November 27, 2019, 03:40:10 PM
how's the 458 SOCOM ammo availability?
Title: Re: 458 SOCOM Bolt gun
Post by: Jmoto808 on December 03, 2019, 11:29:11 AM
The 458 socom uses a 308 family diameter bolt face. So that's the good part. The hard part with such a stubby cartridge and having a 308 bolt face is finding an action to fit it in to reliably feed, Similar to issues with the 6br family of cases used. In a traditional push-feed action ala rem 700, that's a lot of travel for such a short round before it enters the chamber. But it should be easy to put together, just use an old remington 700 with 308 bolt face, take off barrel, buy a remage barrel from PVA, bugholes, McGowen, X-caliber, etc, and then install via barrel nut / headspace gauges.

Another 45 caliber family to look at is the 45 raptor, not sure if its above the horsepower your looking for, but it looks substantially more appealing in a bolt gun than a 458 socom. Goodluck!