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Title: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: London808 on December 14, 2019, 01:30:03 PM
please pass this out and talk to your clubs and stores about this.  PDF: https://hifico.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/HIFICO-Rally-2020.pdf

We need you to register so I can create the Senate/House breakout groups to meet your legislators.  Register at www.hifico.org/rally2020

(https://i.imgur.com/NQE1EBG.jpg)
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: zippz on December 15, 2019, 10:44:14 AM
I need about 20 volunteers to help plan and run the event.  Please message me if you'd like to help.  Our first planning meeting is this week.
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: zippz on December 15, 2019, 11:17:21 PM
The 1st planning meeting will be held this Friday Dec 20 6:30pm at Ruby Tuesdays - Moanalua Shopping Center.  Please message me if attending.
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: Direjackalope on January 02, 2020, 06:21:24 PM
I let my boss know I’ll be calling in sick on the 30th. He smiled and nodded.  I’ll see you there gentlemen.
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Post by: changemyoil66 on January 03, 2020, 09:59:35 AM
I let my boss know I’ll be calling in sick on the 30th. He smiled and nodded.  I’ll see you there gentlemen.

Would be cool if he said him too and you guys both at the same event.
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Post by: 6716J on January 03, 2020, 05:55:56 PM
I'm sure by now they're all tired of me, but I'm sharing the crap out of the rally info via FB.

Hope to see support via locals and the interwebs peeps
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: zippz on January 04, 2020, 08:51:36 AM
please pass this out and talk to your clubs and stores about this.  PDF: https://hifico.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/HIFICO-Rally-2020.pdf

We need you to register so I can create the Senate/House breakout groups to meet your legislators.  Register at www.hifico.org/rally2020

(https://i.imgur.com/NQE1EBG.jpg)
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: hvybarrels on January 06, 2020, 11:11:02 PM
It would also be cool to have a calendar link after you register so that people can automatically add the event to their calendars
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: zippz on January 07, 2020, 08:36:56 AM
It would also be cool to have a calendar link after you register so that people can automatically add the event to their calendars

I'll try and add one on.  Or at the very least send out an email a couple days prior.
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: zippz on January 11, 2020, 10:21:34 AM
For the rally prep on January 25th I bought the following supplies to make signs.  Anything else I should get?

Posterboards white 24x36in and multicolored 22x28in
36in banner paper
6in and 12in stencils and spray paint
4in  stickon vinyl letters
Bunch of sharpie extra wide markers
glue

I'll also print out pictures of guns and other stuff to glue onto the signs.
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: oldfart on January 11, 2020, 11:30:44 AM
Thanks for your time and effort.
I took a day off to be there.
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: drck1000 on January 11, 2020, 11:48:12 AM
Too early for my schedule to see, but I intend on being there.
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: hvybarrels on January 11, 2020, 08:39:33 PM
Any sign ideas? I would like to find something that grabs the attention of people on the fence without sounding too Tactical Jackhole, which can be a huge turnoff for folks who do not normally cuddle around our campfire.

The biggest story everyone is talking about is the violent crime spike, so signs addressing that issue is probably a good place to start.
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: Jl808 on January 12, 2020, 08:49:36 AM
Maybe even consider adding a social media strategy also. 

I kind of doubt the biased MSM news will cover this event and even if they do, present the pro-2a side fairly.
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 12, 2020, 09:45:26 AM
Maybe even consider adding a social media strategy also. 

I kind of doubt the biased MSM news will cover this event and even if they do, present the pro-2a side fairly.
I urge all my 2a friends to post comments on social media that help the cause. We need to let the people know that the anti 2a arent the only opinion.

Ive seen more pro 2a comments in 2019 than the past few years.

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Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: Platinum808 on January 13, 2020, 06:50:26 AM
They should try to get the Boy Scouts out to the rally i did alot of shooting 22 & this shotgun when i was in scouts!
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: Inspector on January 13, 2020, 07:32:39 AM
Any sign ideas? I would like to find something that grabs the attention of people on the fence without sounding too Tactical Jackhole, which can be a huge turnoff for folks who do not normally cuddle around our campfire.

The biggest story everyone is talking about is the violent crime spike, so signs addressing that issue is probably a good place to start.
How about: All We Need Is A Chance To Defend Ourselves

Might be too long.
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: Inspector on January 13, 2020, 07:34:57 AM
https://hifico.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/HIFICO-Rally-2020.pdf
I just noticed I am in this photo.  :shake:
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: oldfart on January 13, 2020, 09:33:45 AM
Any sign ideas? I would like to find something that grabs the attention of people on the fence without sounding too Tactical Jackhole, which can be a huge turnoff for folks who do not normally cuddle around our campfire.

The biggest story everyone is talking about is the violent crime spike, so signs addressing that issue is probably a good place to start.
....
"I am not a criminal"
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: zippz on January 21, 2020, 08:04:50 AM
Lots of cosponsor signatures for the rifle mag ban which is a good indicator that it will pass.  We need more people to come to the rally to show support or else you'll be getting rid of your mags.

(https://i.imgur.com/xFY4NJH.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/iXuAOtx.jpg)
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: ren on January 21, 2020, 09:56:33 AM
Lots of cosponsor signatures for the rifle mag ban which is a good indicator that it will pass.  We need more people to come to the rally to show support or else you'll be getting rid of your mags.

(https://i.imgur.com/xFY4NJH.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/iXuAOtx.jpg)

they should be ashamed of themselves and they should be voted out of office.
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: drck1000 on January 21, 2020, 01:52:52 PM
Just got my leave for Jan 30 approved.  I'll be there!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: macsak on January 21, 2020, 04:35:36 PM
Just got my leave for Jan 30 approved.  I'll be there!  :thumbsup:


heads
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: Heavies on January 22, 2020, 12:38:05 AM
Hey EFF, you going to the rally?  What about you Flappy?
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: Inspector on January 22, 2020, 05:22:18 AM
Still trying to arrange it with my work. Having a hard time cuz we are so busy right now.
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: Drakiir84 on January 22, 2020, 09:21:31 AM
Just got my leave for Jan 30 approved.  I'll be there!  :thumbsup:

Cool, come pick me up lol.
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: drck1000 on January 22, 2020, 09:30:25 AM
Cool, come pick me up lol.
I can if you want, as long as you bring snacks.   ;D

Seriously though, I can.  I'll be walking from my place though. 
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 22, 2020, 11:16:58 AM
We're UBERing
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Post by: Drakiir84 on January 22, 2020, 11:44:49 AM
I can if you want, as long as you bring snacks.   ;D

Seriously though, I can.  I'll be walking from my place though.

Nah lol, I'll probably just catch the bus....  Think they'll mind me wearing full kit?
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: drck1000 on January 22, 2020, 11:53:44 AM
Nah lol, I'll probably just catch the bus....  Think they'll mind me wearing full kit?
I'll be happy as long as you wear pants and a shirt.  Hopefully underwear too.   ;D

Cool man!  Good to have good people come out!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: Jk2226 on January 22, 2020, 08:18:43 PM
So what exactly is needed as far as volunteers and so on and so forth?
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: Drakiir84 on January 23, 2020, 09:08:25 PM
So what exactly is needed as far as volunteers and so on and so forth?
Just showing up is worth its weight in gold. 

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Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: macsak on January 23, 2020, 09:27:22 PM
So what exactly is needed as far as volunteers and so on and so forth?

there's an organizational meeting on Saturday...
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: zippz on January 25, 2020, 11:49:59 AM
Our legislative meeting is tonight.  See you there.

(https://i2.wp.com/hifico.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/HIFICO-Leg-Mtg-2020-sm.jpg)
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: macsak on January 25, 2020, 10:31:29 PM
Our legislative meeting is tonight.  See you there.

(https://i2.wp.com/hifico.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/HIFICO-Leg-Mtg-2020-sm.jpg)

mahalo to all who attended, dentists are not real doctors and Epstein didn't kill himself
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: macsak on January 25, 2020, 10:33:57 PM
mahalo to all who attended, dentists are not real doctors and Epstein didn't kill himself

https://www.facebook.com/hificoorg/videos/488701588712639/
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: ren on January 25, 2020, 10:36:32 PM
mahalo to all who attended, dentists are not real doctors and Epstein didn't kill himself

#TeethMatter
#HealthyToothDontPull
#RootCanals
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: ren on January 25, 2020, 11:00:11 PM
all these anti 2A bills reminds me of a speech in Red Dawn.

Colonel Strelnikov

    What I despise most about warfare, is the hypocrisy if often breeds. I've heard euphemisms that we are 'containing the enemy', that our 'sector of pacification is growing'. These are the tactics of the lie. Lies have the stench of death and defeat. You can only win a war by exterminating the enemy!
    Do you know who we are fighting? We are fighting Wolverines: small, ferocious animals. For them, you need a hunter. And you know, I am a hunter.
    From this moment on, there will be no further reprisals against civilians. This was stupid. Impotence. Comrades, if a fox stole your chickens, would you slaughter your pig because he saw the fox? No! You would hunt down the fox, find where it lives and destroy it! How do we do this? Become a fox.


Lawmakers are targeting the wrong people.

Thanks to all that attended :shaka: and to all the speakers.
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: drck1000 on January 27, 2020, 12:15:47 PM
Rally is this week.  Encouraged to hear many folks planning to come out, even if just for an hour or so during their lunch break. 
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Post by: changemyoil66 on January 27, 2020, 01:48:44 PM
Rally is this week.  Encouraged to hear many folks planning to come out, even if just for an hour or so during their lunch break.

The female cops funeral is that day at 10am.  I know a few who are coming by after that around 12ish.
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: 6716J on January 27, 2020, 03:39:12 PM
Just in case somebody didn't know

Is there a dress code? Assuming its everyday local kine casual?
run what ya brung
last year, there were people in regular clothes, some with work clothes, others had 2a type shirts on, a few had their organization's gear on
a group of the pistol match shooters came in their competition shirts
the goal is to show the lawmakers that we are a diverse group with a common goal- to preserve the second amendment
No kits, nvg, or comms. Might intimidate law makers.

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Post by: zippz on January 28, 2020, 07:09:24 PM
Subway sandwiches and Costco pizza for lunch.  Weather looks good, should be a good rally.  We may miss some legislators due to the police officers funeral is on the same morning
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: Inspector on January 29, 2020, 12:08:06 PM
Sorry everyone, I will not be able to make it tomorrow. I was going to come in the morning and work in the afternoon but I now have a house showing in the morning.

Good luck everyone! Be good and be persuasive.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: eyeeatingfish on January 29, 2020, 07:59:12 PM
Just a heads up guys, I found out one of the funerals for one of the officers who was killed is being held Thursday morning as well. Of course there is no way anyone could have predicted that when planning this rally bur I fear it may not be looked upon kindly.
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Post by: macsak on January 29, 2020, 08:26:50 PM
Just a heads up guys, I found out one of the funerals for one of the officers who was killed is being held Thursday morning as well. Of course there is no way anyone could have predicted that when planning this rally bur I fear it may not be looked upon kindly.

the organizers are aware of this, mahalo for the notice though
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Post by: zippz on January 29, 2020, 08:40:45 PM
Just a heads up guys, I found out one of the funerals for one of the officers who was killed is being held Thursday morning as well. Of course there is no way anyone could have predicted that when planning this rally bur I fear it may not be looked upon kindly.

Yea it's unfortunate and some people will see it  in a bad way.  I got some strange looks when I passed out rally invitations to the legislators and some wondered if the rally was in response to the shooting.  We didn't invite media to the rally because of the funerals being held and we'll have a moment of silence to recognize the sacrifices made by law enforcement.  We do our best to spread the message that we support the beat cops while opposing the gun control policies at the top.
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Post by: zippz on January 29, 2020, 08:46:45 PM
Dress code is casual.  Wear your HIFICO shirt, 2a related shirts, shooting jersey, hunting vest, whatever to represent.  In good taste of course as this is a peaceful rally and we're building relations with the legislators.

Parking suggestions:

(https://i.imgur.com/rDHzWQC.jpg)

Parking suggestions
Most of the parking around the capitol area will fill up quickly so get there early. Remember to feed the parking meters or it's a $25 ticket. There are other surface metetered stalls in the area like Iolani Palace and on the street, but it's limited to 30 minutes to an hour. I recommend taking the bus, biki bike, and alternative forms of transportation.

State Capitol Underground Garage - Enter the driveway from Punchbowl St across from Queens Hospital. Opens at 6:30am. Quarters only. There is a change machine in the center of the parking lot.

Dept of Health - Surface lot with entrance on Punchbowl Street. Pay with a credit card at the machine.

Kalanimoku Underground Garage - driveway on Punchbowl Street. Coin meters I believe.

Vinyard Garage - I think it's coin meters, not sure.

State Makai Garage - Opens at 7am, get a ticket and pay when you leave.

State Pohukaina Garage - Opens at 7am, get a ticket and pay when you leave.

Aloha Tower - Buy something from the stores and get validation.
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Post by: zippz on January 29, 2020, 08:55:30 PM
one more update, the police procession will pass by at 1PM (for Diamond Head shooting) We will show our support by waiving on Beretania St at that time.
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Post by: drck1000 on January 29, 2020, 09:11:20 PM
one more update, the police procession will pass by at 1PM (for Diamond Head shooting) We will show our support by waiving on Beretania St at that time.
You’ve done a great job organizing this. But don’t think waving (signs or otherwise) at the passing of a solemn procession is a good way of showing respect. If it’s a celebration of life procession, then prob good gesture.
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Post by: macsak on January 29, 2020, 09:53:05 PM
alii place parking garage
on alakea just before hotel street
mauka of mandalay restaurant, makai of district court

Dress code is casual.  Wear your HIFICO shirt, 2a related shirts, shooting jersey, hunting vest, whatever to represent.  In good taste of course as this is a peaceful rally and we're building relations with the legislators.

Parking suggestions:

(https://i.imgur.com/rDHzWQC.jpg)

Parking suggestions
Most of the parking around the capitol area will fill up quickly so get there early. Remember to feed the parking meters or it's a $25 ticket. There are other surface metetered stalls in the area like Iolani Palace and on the street, but it's limited to 30 minutes to an hour. I recommend taking the bus, biki bike, and alternative forms of transportation.

State Capitol Underground Garage - Enter the driveway from Punchbowl St across from Queens Hospital. Opens at 6:30am. Quarters only. There is a change machine in the center of the parking lot.

Dept of Health - Surface lot with entrance on Punchbowl Street. Pay with a credit card at the machine.

Kalanimoku Underground Garage - driveway on Punchbowl Street. Coin meters I believe.

Vinyard Garage - I think it's coin meters, not sure.

State Makai Garage - Opens at 7am, get a ticket and pay when you leave.

State Pohukaina Garage - Opens at 7am, get a ticket and pay when you leave.

Aloha Tower - Buy something from the stores and get validation.
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 31, 2020, 09:02:38 AM
Nice rally yesterday.  Had about 150 people show up.  Met some 2ahawaii forum members. 

OldFart, you're not that hold.  I was expecting someone older.  :rofl:
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Post by: oldfart on January 31, 2020, 09:41:55 AM
Nice rally yesterday.  Had about 150 people show up.  Met some 2ahawaii forum members. 

OldFart, you're not that hold.  I was expecting someone older.  :rofl:
....
My son just retired....yes, I am old.

Indeed it was a nice but somber day for a rally.
It was unfortunate that it was tempered by the funeral procession.

Big mahalo to zip and london for making it happen.
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Post by: drck1000 on January 31, 2020, 10:11:02 AM
Good turnout yesterday!  When the sign waving first started, I counted about 80 folks on the curb and a good amount of folks talking, preparing, etc.  More and more folks showed up while I was there.  What did strike me is the number of positive reactions to drivers passing by.  Wish more would come out to events like this one and even more importantly testify, but I was pretty energized by yesterday. 

Had to leave earlier than I thought since I had to cover a telcon on short notice.  It was good to see many familiar faces as well as meet many new ones.  Was helping a couple of folks with their signs and was talking story.  One has recently purchased some handguns and long guns and was looking for opportunities to shoot them, in addition to getting involved with HIFICO and other firearms coalition groups.  Was also good to see more of the competition shooters come out. 

Great job to HIFICO (London, Zips, Mdot, etc) and the other coalition folks.   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Bota-CS1 on January 31, 2020, 04:14:23 PM
Nice rally yesterday.  Had about 150 people show up.  Met some 2ahawaii forum members. 

OldFart, you're not that hold.  I was expecting someone older.  :rofl:

You’re 12.  EVERYONE is old compared to you
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Post by: aieahound on January 31, 2020, 06:04:50 PM
Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 31, 2020, 08:22:22 PM
You’re 12.  EVERYONE is old compared to you
U old too.

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Title: Re: Hawaii Firearms Coalition Rally for the second amendment and public safety.
Post by: macsak on February 03, 2020, 08:49:06 PM
Lots of cosponsor signatures for the rifle mag ban which is a good indicator that it will pass.  We need more people to come to the rally to show support or else you'll be getting rid of your mags.

(https://i.imgur.com/xFY4NJH.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/iXuAOtx.jpg)

for pictures from the rally- see Hawaii defense foundation on IG and FB