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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: changemyoil66 on December 30, 2019, 09:36:21 AM
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Either stuff doesn't happen as often as it used to for the past few months due to the holidays, or someone called the news and told them to not report the stories.
I don't see as much postings on either news pages or on SSH.
#tinfoil
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Either stuff doesn't happen as often as it used to for the past few months due to the holidays, or someone called the news and told them to not report the stories.
I don't see as much postings on either news pages or on SSH.
#tinfoil
#noteverythingisaconspiracy
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Maybe people are busy to be posting on SSH? 🤷🏻♂️
I’ve actually seen more reports of attacks on elderly and other purse snatching type things.
And maybe criminals have parties to go to as well. 🤔
But IF it was a conspiracy, to what end? That’s becoming a very packed grassy knoll.
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But IF it was a conspiracy, to what end? That’s becoming a very packed grassy knoll.
You mean library #focus
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You mean library #focus
#missedpoint
And it was the Texas Book “Suppository” :rofl:
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#missedpoint
And it was the Texas Book “Suppository” :rofl:
Before my time #uguysareold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liusEeP1QcE
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Before my time #uguysareold
Ok. You got that one. :thumbsup:
And Inspector and OF are old. ;D
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http://hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/12/31/elderly-man-savagely-beaten-during-midday-robbery-ala-moana-center/
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Get too many az why. No can keep up. Fo post all da stuff goin on
you wud spend all day on da computa, No mo time fo dat. Cops tryin
fo help by killing da bad kine guys. Az why get choke police shooting
now days.
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Looks like it was due to the holidays. It's back up.
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January 7, 2020
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/01/07/elderly-women-robbed-gunpoint-salt-lake/
January 6, 2020
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/01/07/woman-viciously-beaten-during-mid-day-purse-snatching-grocery-store-parking-lot/
January 5,2020
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/01/05/man-arrested-waipahu-assault-case/
January 4, 2020
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/01/05/attempted-murder-case-opened-after-mililani-robbery-ends-gunfire/
January 3, 2020
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/01/04/police-arrest-suspect-accused-sexually-assaulting-women-office-building/
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Seems like it was "simple" purse snatching before, but have started seeing more reports of guns being used in recent robberies (at least one of the articles Jl808 posted). Things escalating. . .
I shop at Don Quijote here and there and I always see elderly by themselves loading up their car in the parking lot, especially in the covered parking structure. When I see that, I find myself looking around to see what or who else is around. Gotta keep an eye out for them.
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Seems like it was "simple" purse snatching before, but have started seeing more reports of guns being used in recent robberies (at least one of the articles Jl808 posted). Things escalating. . .
I shop at Don Quijote here and there and I always see elderly by themselves loading up their car in the parking lot, especially in the covered parking structure. When I see that, I find myself looking around to see what or who else is around. Gotta keep an eye out for them.
Why? It's a virtual certainty that the little old lady you're looking out for doesn't want you to be armed; why risk yourself on her behalf when she doesn't even want you to?
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Seems like it was "simple" purse snatching before, but have started seeing more reports of guns being used in recent robberies (at least one of the articles Jl808 posted). Things escalating. . .
I shop at Don Quijote here and there and I always see elderly by themselves loading up their car in the parking lot, especially in the covered parking structure. When I see that, I find myself looking around to see what or who else is around. Gotta keep an eye out for them.
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DQ could hire somebody to sit on the roof in an overwatch position. It's not a large parking lot.
...AR with a low power optic should suffice. :rofl:
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Seems like it was "simple" purse snatching before, but have started seeing more reports of guns being used in recent robberies (at least one of the articles Jl808 posted). Things escalating. . .
I shop at Don Quijote here and there and I always see elderly by themselves loading up their car in the parking lot, especially in the covered parking structure. When I see that, I find myself looking around to see what or who else is around. Gotta keep an eye out for them.
I go there too. at least every other week. that parking structure would be my first guess for a robbery to take place. I usually park on the roof. situational awareness is always my first option wherever I am, especially in a dark parking lot. that area around Kapiolani/keeaumoku get a lot of questionable suspects. or any neighborhood nowadays. my friends lives upscale diamondhead and another friend in kahala, and their neighborhood gets robberies and home invasions probably more than my neighborhood in kaimuki
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DQ could hire somebody to sit on the roof in an overwatch position. It's not a large parking lot.
...AR with a low power optic should suffice. :rofl:
I would take that job. all I need is my Ruger SBH Hunter 44mag and i'm good. if I need less than lethal I can use it as a club. :shaka:
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Why? It's a virtual certainty that the little old lady you're looking out for doesn't want you to be armed; why risk yourself on her behalf when she doesn't even want you to?
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
Why? Because I care about the elderly, especially them being targeted. No one said anything about being armed. No one said putting myself at risk. IMO, having a someone who isn't "as easy a target" in the area would serve as a deterrent. From what I've seen of recent incidents, the attackers picked out elderly out either alone, without any else in the area. Something I choose to do. . .
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I go there too. at least every other week. that parking structure would be my first guess for a robbery to take place. I usually park on the roof. situational awareness is always my first option wherever I am, especially in a dark parking lot. that area around Kapiolani/keeaumoku get a lot of questionable suspects. or any neighborhood nowadays. my friends lives upscale diamondhead and another friend in kahala, and their neighborhood gets robberies and home invasions probably more than my neighborhood in kaimuki
Yup. Lots of questionables in the area. Lots of areas, but that area especially.
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“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
Why? Because I care about the elderly, especially them being targeted. No one said anything about being armed. No one said putting myself at risk. IMO, having a someone who isn't "as easy a target" in the area would serve as a deterrent. From what I've seen of recent incidents, the attackers picked out elderly out either alone, without any else in the area. Something I choose to do. . .
In today's MODERN COMMERCIAL UNIVERSE, with crimes and accidents a daily reality, one would assume businesses would install cameras and hire security staff to monitor them as Standard Operating Procedure.
Accidents, insurance scams, shoplifting, theft/damage by employees, robbery, and a whole host of other events are much easier to deter and resolve when someone is watching and recording the site on video surveillance..
You'd think as often as Hawaii's population visit's Vegas casinos they'd understand the benefits of wall-to-wall surveillance.
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“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
Why? Because I care about the elderly, especially them being targeted. No one said anything about being armed. No one said putting myself at risk. IMO, having a someone who isn't "as easy a target" in the area would serve as a deterrent. From what I've seen of recent incidents, the attackers picked out elderly out either alone, without any else in the area. Something I choose to do. . .
I'm a fan of letting people have what they want, which in this case is a population of sheep unequipped to look out for each other. Sure, the presence of someone who looks capable of handling himself might deter a criminal, but it might just add another victim to the tally. To each their own, though. Do what makes you happy.
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some people choose to do nothing. that is enabling evil to win
my past has taught me to be proactive and reactive, not inactive
if I saw an older person obviously getting mugged and assaulted and there is no way they can help themselves, you dam right i'm going to help them. what exactly that help is depends on the situation. but i'm not going to stand by and do nothing.
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More than 90% of the people I observe appear to be unarmed. No pocket clip to indicate a tactical folder, no cane, etc. My daughter doesn't carry a purse but carries a Mace gun with her hand on it in a light jacket pocket when walking to and from her car. I also tell her to keep her head on a swivel.
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More than 90% of the people I observe appear to be unarmed. No pocket clip to indicate a tactical folder, no cane, etc. My daughter doesn't carry a purse but carries a Mace gun with her hand on it in a light jacket pocket when walking to and from her car. I also tell her to keep her head on a swivel.
My EDC doesn't show any clips. I have my OC and knives in my pockets/IWB. The only place I show the clip is at the range.
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My EDC doesn't show any clips. I have my OC and knives in my pockets/IWB. The only place I show the clip is at the range.
Same here. I keep my knives concealed and I almost always wear a baseball cap that has a flat 8 oz lead weight in sewn in the back. Getting hit by that will knock you out. Cap is not at all uncomfortable and I can wear it for hours not even noticing the weight.
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In today's MODERN COMMERCIAL UNIVERSE, with crimes and accidents a daily reality, one would assume businesses would install cameras and hire security staff to monitor them as Standard Operating Procedure.
Accidents, insurance scams, shoplifting, theft/damage by employees, robbery, and a whole host of other events are much easier to deter and resolve when someone is watching and recording the site on video surveillance..
You'd think as often as Hawaii's population visit's Vegas casinos they'd understand the benefits of wall-to-wall surveillance.
I'm seeing a lot more folks with Ring doorbells, other remote video stuff, etc. Usually when they report the incidents those cameras capture. Some of them get the trespasser (usually worse) almost looking directly at the camera.
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I'm a fan of letting people have what they want, which in this case is a population of sheep unequipped to look out for each other. Sure, the presence of someone who looks capable of handling himself might deter a criminal, but it might just add another victim to the tally. To each their own, though. Do what makes you happy.
So they deserve what they get? I don't know any of those that were victimized, but I know many seniors who choose to do things on their own. There are also those that don't really have anyone else for support.
Yeah, to each his own for sure. A lot of my perspective on the attacks on the elderly comes from my grandmother. She really valued her independence and lived on her own for maybe 10 years after my grandfather died. She would go from Kalihi by bus all around. Church, bank, grocery shopping, etc. Was a lot of that because it was safer back then? Maybe. In any case, she preferred to do things on her own and be independent. One of her worst fears about growing old was that she would be a burden on family. And there was plenty of available and willing support. At times I would practically have to force her to let me help her with things. Of course there's more, but she was a huge part of what formed my values.
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some people choose to do nothing. that is enabling evil to win
my past has taught me to be proactive and reactive, not inactive
if I saw an older person obviously getting mugged and assaulted and there is no way they can help themselves, you dam right i'm going to help them. what exactly that help is depends on the situation. but i'm not going to stand by and do nothing.
Pretty much spot on to what I think/believe. Context of the situation is key, but I too wouldn't be able to just sit back and just witness something like that going down.
Little bit different topic, but those whose first instinct is to pull out their phones and capture things usually make me ::) and :grrr: Have seen it too many times. In one case, I was walking back to my car and I came across a few people with cell phones videoing toward a side street. I get to the side street and see a person lying on the sidewalk and sort of writhing and could tell right away something was wrong. I went over and it was a woman in her 20s and was sort of dazed and just looking at the sky. I asked her if she was ok and no response. I asked if anyone called 911 and all said no, so I called 911 and was on the phone with the dispatcher and was describing the situation. While I was clarifying the location, she suddenly just got up and started stumbling down the street. After I thought to myself "WTF people! You just thought to video things and no one called 911!"
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Pretty much spot on to what I think/believe. Context of the situation is key, but I too wouldn't be able to just sit back and just witness something like that going down.
Little bit different topic, but those whose first instinct is to pull out their phones and capture things usually make me ::) and :grrr: Have seen it too many times. In one case, I was walking back to my car and I came across a few people with cell phones videoing toward a side street. I get to the side street and see a person lying on the sidewalk and sort of writhing and could tell right away something was wrong. I went over and it was a woman in her 20s and was sort of dazed and just looking at the sky. I asked her if she was ok and no response. I asked if anyone called 911 and all said no, so I called 911 and was on the phone with the dispatcher and was describing the situation. While I was clarifying the location, she suddenly just got up and started stumbling down the street. After I thought to myself "WTF people! You just thought to video things and no one called 911!"
I have a sort of similar story:
I was at the gym between sets, catching my breath. I see this girl squatting a pretty heavy weight and notice after she racks the bar, she goes down to her knees and then lies on her back and breathing heavy. I think maybe shes just really tired and resting. after a couple minutes she is still lying on the ground. this doesn't look normal to me. everybody just walking right by her. so I go up to her and ask if she's ok, needs help, needs water, wants me to get help for her. but she says she just lifted too much weight and will be ok. so I just keep watching her for a while and she gets up very slowly holding her back and looks like her back is strained. so I go up to her again and ask if she's ok. she says she'll be ok and thanks me for my concern, and as she is walking away I can tell her back is pretty sore by the way she is walking. but I was thinking to myself, "wow, all these people in here just walked right by her without any concern for another persons well being." years ago I tore my pec in the gym benching. I was by myself. for a while I was down on the ground too and nobody asked me if I was ok. gets me to realize there's no social politeness anymore, or concern for others
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So they deserve what they get? I don't know any of those that were victimized, but I know many seniors who choose to do things on their own. There are also those that don't really have anyone else for support.
This state has the most restrictive gun laws in the country. That doesn't mean they deserve to get mugged, but it does mean I'm not lifting a finger to help someone I don't know, putting myself at risk. If the voters want to constantly bleat for ever more restrictive gun laws, that's their prerogative, and the police are just a phone call away. I'll be minding my own business. People who have no respect for my human rights don't deserve my help or sympathy when things go poorly for them.
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I have a sort of similar story:
I was at the gym between sets, catching my breath. I see this girl squatting a pretty heavy weight and notice after she racks the bar, she goes down to her knees and then lies on her back and breathing heavy. I think maybe shes just really tired and resting. after a couple minutes she is still lying on the ground. this doesn't look normal to me. everybody just walking right by her. so I go up to her and ask if she's ok, needs help, needs water, wants me to get help for her. but she says she just lifted too much weight and will be ok. so I just keep watching her for a while and she gets up very slowly holding her back and looks like her back is strained. so I go up to her again and ask if she's ok. she says she'll be ok and thanks me for my concern, and as she is walking away I can tell her back is pretty sore by the way she is walking. but I was thinking to myself, "wow, all these people in here just walked right by her without any concern for another persons well being." years ago I tore my pec in the gym benching. I was by myself. for a while I was down on the ground too and nobody asked me if I was ok. gets me to realize there's no social politeness anymore, or concern for others
BLUF: You were checking out the cutie lifting. . . ;D Yoga pants? :love:
At least that's what I got from the story :rofl:
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BLUF: You were checking out the cutie lifting. . . ;D Yoga pants? :love:
At least that's what I got from the story :rofl:
Maybe :D
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Murder on street by a naked man wielding a knife in Eden Roc last night, the subdivision next to mine.
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In today's MODERN COMMERCIAL UNIVERSE, with crimes and accidents a daily reality, one would assume businesses would install cameras and hire security staff to monitor them as Standard Operating Procedure.
Accidents, insurance scams, shoplifting, theft/damage by employees, robbery, and a whole host of other events are much easier to deter and resolve when someone is watching and recording the site on video surveillance..
You'd think as often as Hawaii's population visit's Vegas casinos they'd understand the benefits of wall-to-wall surveillance.
The problem is most have shitty systems. All blurry and stuff. Even banks camera's blurry. My $24 WYZE camera is way clearer than what the media post.
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The problem is most have shitty systems. All blurry and stuff. Even banks camera's blurry. My $24 WYZE camera is way clearer than what the media post.
4K HD standard recording wasn't available when most systems were purchased. "TV quality", or 480p (720x480), was the standard for many, many years -- and expensive compared to less resolution 320p cameras.
The higher the resolution, the more recording and backup storage space is needed, and the faster the recording system needs to be to handle that data stream, Multiply that HD camera's needs by a dozen or more, and the trade-offs start happening. Lower resolution, B&W vs color, and slower refresh rates (standard TV is 60Hz, and better TVs do higher multiples like 120Hz & 240Hz). Lowering the refresh to 30 frames per second (fps) or 15 fps greatly reduces the system requirements to handle the video being recorded and stored.
Prices have come way down, thanks to companies like Wyze. However, if you read the manual (website), they specifically state their products are not to be relied upon for security applications. They just aren't that reliable.
It costs a bunch to upgrade a security system. You need to run power and a/v cables if not already in place and capable. You need backup power, a/v recording and backup media/hardware. Cameras need to be protected from the elements if outdoors and from tampering (heavy duty housings, cable conduit, etc). WiFi is not reliable enough nor robust enough to handle most business' video surveillance needs. Physical cables run to each camera is needed. Luckily, PoE cables that carry both power and a/v signals saves on the installation cost, but the cameras and recording systems can cost a little more, too.
Most of these places that show their crappy video on the news use the systems mainly as a visible deterrent more than anything. It can fill in the gaps when needing to know who did what and in what order, but it is horrible for identification.
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“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
Why? Because I care about the elderly, especially them being targeted. No one said anything about being armed. No one said putting myself at risk. IMO, having a someone who isn't "as easy a target" in the area would serve as a deterrent. From what I've seen of recent incidents, the attackers picked out elderly out either alone, without any else in the area. Something I choose to do. . .
Thanks for watching out for us "Old Farts". :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:
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wear a baseball cap that has a flat 8 oz lead weight in sewn in the back.
I might have to start wearing a hat :D
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Thanks for watching out for us "Old Farts". :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:
:bow:
1) You aren't that old.
2) You're more than capable of watching out for yourself and defending yourself. That and you'll always have Rockette :love:
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Either stuff doesn't happen as often as it used to for the past few months due to the holidays, or someone called the news and told them to not report the stories.
I don't see as much postings on either news pages or on SSH.
#tinfoil
Cops did kill 3 guys in the past 2 months or so... Maybe the criminals cut back?
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January 10, 2020
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/01/10/sources-violent-robberies-that-happened-minutes-apart-likely-connected/
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Cops did kill 3 guys in the past 2 months or so... Maybe the criminals cut back?
No, gun related crimes begun again. It was the holidays.
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We need Death Wish vigilantes to roam the streets.
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We need Death Wish vigilantes to roam the streets.
Like Duarte does. My friend who has a gf that's in a village that heavily went after the drug dealers said that he cleaned up that village big time. Everyone who lives there all praise Duarte for doing what needed to be done and not afraid of bad PC. Of course the drug dealers are not happy.
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https://www.khon2.com/local-news/digging-deeper-into-the-recent-violent-crime-wave-in-hawaii/
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https://www.khon2.com/local-news/digging-deeper-into-the-recent-violent-crime-wave-in-hawaii/
Hope McCarthy was misquoted. Contradiction much?
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Hawaii should adopt stiffer penalties for property crime.
Not exactly apples vs apples, but maybe this has something to do with why Japan crime rate is very low.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1ZLGqL1FMo
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Jan 11, 2020
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/01/11/police-launch-investigation-after-shooting-central-oahu/
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There is a lot more vigilante sentiment out there than previous years. I heard in passing someone mention that if the cops cant do their job then someone ought to do it for them, and it would not be too difficult since it is an island. That would be a total disaster. Angry mobs are not known for their careful consideration of the facts.
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There is a lot more vigilante sentiment out there than previous years. I heard in passing someone mention that if the cops cant do their job then someone ought to do it for them, and it would not be too difficult since it is an island. That would be a total disaster. Angry mobs are not known for their careful consideration of the facts.
Few years back in Laie, a "guy" was accused of molesting some kids, arrested and released. :grrr:
Couple days later found him in a stream off of Malaekahana. :o
Little press and the last I heard of it. :sleeping:
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Few years back in Laie, a "guy" was accused of molesting some kids, arrested and released. :grrr:
Couple days later found him in a stream off of Malaekahana. :o
Little press and the last I heard of it. :sleeping:
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What an unfortunate accident.
River rocks can be slippery. It's easy to fall and hit your head.
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What an unfortunate accident.
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River rocks can be slippery. It's easy to fall and hit your head ^ .
:thumbsup:
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January 14, 2020
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/01/15/man-uses-knife-robbery-salt-lake-hpd-investigating/
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January 14, 2020
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/01/15/man-posing-security-guard-carjacks-student-outside-uh-manoa-dorm/
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I know ren made a thread about it, but I figured I can add it to this one.
https://www.khon2.com/local-news/police-respond-to-shooting-in-waianae-area/ (https://www.khon2.com/local-news/police-respond-to-shooting-in-waianae-area/)