Post by: changemyoil66 on January 24, 2020, 01:26:57 PM
Coincide with Chinese New Year, when lots of Chinese travel.
#tinfoil
Post by: macsak on January 24, 2020, 01:45:10 PM
Is it any surprise that the city that started the virus was China's first biological study office?
Coincide with Chinese New Year, when lots of Chinese travel.
#tinfoil
does tinfoil keep away the virus?
Post by: drck1000 on January 24, 2020, 01:48:28 PM
does tinfoil keep away the virus?If you have a full body wrap. With duct tape to make airtight seals at the overlaps.
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 27, 2020, 11:52:42 AM
Who holds the patent on the virus and cure???
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Post by: Bota-CS1 on January 27, 2020, 12:08:55 PM
Duct tape will compromise the shinyness. Multi layers are used instead.
Who holds the patent on the virus and cure???
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Can I pour a gallon of mayonnaise over you and see if the rumors are true?
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 27, 2020, 01:10:37 PM
Can I pour a gallon of mayonnaise over you and see if the rumors are true?
Well you already tried a gallon of honey. So why not? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: macsak on January 27, 2020, 01:33:52 PM
Who holds the patent on the virus and cure???
#noteverythingisaconspiracy
Post by: drck1000 on January 27, 2020, 01:40:42 PM
#noteverythingisaconspiracy#whaddyayouknowyourenotarealdoctor
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 27, 2020, 02:58:53 PM
#noteverythingisaconspiracy
Guess who's a major stock holder of the company who got the grant to make the cure? Our good friend Soro's...#brbputtingontinfoilhazmatsuit
Post by: Inspector on January 27, 2020, 03:22:59 PM
#BestWithALime
Post by: macsak on January 27, 2020, 05:13:58 PM
#whaddyayouknowyourenotarealdoctor
heads
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 27, 2020, 08:17:14 PM
That's just par for Socialist countries, though -- building hospitals at break-neck speed to take care of the people the government cares for so deeply. :rofl:
It has nothing whatsoever to do with a massive outbreak of a disease with a 5%+ fatality rate and no way to stop transmission. :shake:
https://youtu.be/meKTtgOJql0
Post by: Heavies on January 27, 2020, 09:16:46 PM
#CoronaEspecialVirus:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
#BestWithALime
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 28, 2020, 02:09:22 PM
According to reports, China is rapidly completing one hospital with a 1,000 bed capacity, and they have started construction on three more hospitals.
That's just par for Socialist countries, though -- building hospitals at break-neck speed to take care of the people the government cares for so deeply. :rofl:
It has nothing whatsoever to do with a massive outbreak of a disease with a 5%+ fatality rate and no way to stop transmission. :shake:
https://youtu.be/meKTtgOJql0
They should use the bird nest stadium that was built for the Olympics.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 28, 2020, 05:03:31 PM
They should use the bird nest stadium that was built for the Olympics.
Side-by-side stadium seating for people with a contagious disease?
What could possibly go wrong? :wacko:
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 29, 2020, 08:33:45 AM
Side-by-side stadium seating for people with a contagious disease?
What could possibly go wrong? :wacko:
China's so crowded anyways, everyone is always side by side. So same same.
Post by: Mdotweber on January 29, 2020, 09:54:43 AM
Prominent Harvard professor arrested with links to Wuhan. Coincident?
https://khn.org/morning-breakout/prominent-harvard-scientist-arrested-by-u-s-authorities-charged-with-hiding-ties-to-china/
Im just here to stir sh!t up.
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 29, 2020, 10:14:54 AM
Why would they build 1 of 3 hospitals in 24 hours if it wasn't that bad. Or why would they barricade the entire city off (walls do work I guess).
Post by: drck1000 on January 29, 2020, 11:07:27 AM
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 29, 2020, 11:27:39 AM
Heard reports on the radio something about the Chinese "central gov't" is blaming (or at least at odds) with the local gov't for downplaying the initial reports, concerns, etc. That now many surrounding areas are totally blocked off from the ground-zero area. That sort of reports made me wonder when the "central gov't" will order firebombing of the ground-zero area, ala Outbreak movie.
The Mayor of Wuhan has resigned and stated that 5 million out of 11 million residence already left the city before they could set up the barriers.
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 29, 2020, 11:28:26 AM
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Post by: drck1000 on January 29, 2020, 11:31:13 AM
The Mayor of Wuhan has resigned and stated that 5 million out of 11 million residence already left the city before they could set up the barriers.Entire homes already left? 😳
:rofl:
Post by: macsak on January 29, 2020, 11:59:47 AM
Daisy cutter style (Outbreak movie)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200129/883380004c8b8b7a0bd5d52d8b7d6c35.jpg)
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I don't think that meme is about daisy cutters...
Post by: Inspector on January 29, 2020, 12:05:16 PM
Heard reports on the radio something about the Chinese "central gov't" is blaming (or at least at odds) with the local gov't for downplaying the initial reports, concerns, etc. That now many surrounding areas are totally blocked off from the ground-zero area. That sort of reports made me wonder when the "central gov't" will order firebombing of the ground-zero area, ala Outbreak movie.I heard reports this morning that this strain is worse than the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918 because it spreads easier for whatever the reason. They did not state that it was more deadly or not. I don't think it will be much of an issue here although it could be YUGE in China. Actually it some ways it already is. Quarantine measures are much better these days as well communications. We cut off flights to China early on and brought out all of our citizens from the area. Whoever made those command decisions did the right thing and did it early. Almost as if they care about the American people...
For those of you who don't know the history of the Spanish Flu pandemic. Over a 2 year period it affected about one third of the world's population or about 500 million people. And about 50 million worldwide died from it. Usually only the very young, the very old and the sickly are mostly affected by viruses like this.
Post by: drck1000 on January 29, 2020, 12:32:02 PM
I heard reports this morning that this strain is worse than the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918 because it spreads easier for whatever the reason. They did not state that it was more deadly or not. I don't think it will be much of an issue here although it could be YUGE in China. Actually it some ways it already is. Quarantine measures are much better these days as well communications. We cut off flights to China early on and brought out all of our citizens from the area. Whoever made those command decisions did the right thing and did it early. Almost as if they care about the American people...Heard about a chartered flight to evacuate US citizens from China (I think Wuhan). That they would be flying into Alaska first, with a screening process there, and then onto Cali, where there will be another screening. Something about the Cali location was designated a while ago for this sort of evacuation and potential quarantine scenarios.
For those of you who don't know the history of the Spanish Flu pandemic. Over a 2 year period it affected about one third of the world's population or about 500 million people. And about 50 million worldwide died from it. Usually only the very young, the very old and the sickly are mostly affected by viruses like this.
Post by: macsak on January 29, 2020, 12:43:27 PM
Heard about a chartered flight to evacuate US citizens from China (I think Wuhan). That they would be flying into Alaska first, with a screening process there, and then onto Cali, where there will be another screening. Something about the Cali location was designated a while ago for this sort of evacuation and potential quarantine scenarios.
I just watched a youtube video that said they would be quarantined for a week in Alaska...
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 29, 2020, 12:48:00 PM
Entire homes already left? 😳
:rofl:
#NoFocus. Residents
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 29, 2020, 12:52:33 PM
Heard about a chartered flight to evacuate US citizens from China (I think Wuhan). That they would be flying into Alaska first, with a screening process there, and then onto Cali, where there will be another screening. Something about the Cali location was designated a while ago for this sort of evacuation and potential quarantine scenarios.
Was this the flight that was diverted to the Air Force Base?
Since China has no 1a, very little info is getting out via the internet or other sources. So it's hard to get more updates. Some stuff is getting out, but I'm sure by now their government pinged their IP address.
Post by: astroboy on January 29, 2020, 02:04:22 PM
https://youtu.be/7OEqybiGdaA
Post by: Inspector on January 29, 2020, 02:09:50 PM
Heard about a chartered flight to evacuate US citizens from China (I think Wuhan). That they would be flying into Alaska first, with a screening process there, and then onto Cali, where there will be another screening. Something about the Cali location was designated a while ago for this sort of evacuation and potential quarantine scenarios.What you said is exactly why I doubt we will ever see another pandemic outbreak like the Spanish Flu. We are fairly prepared for something like this. The Chinese are reacting quickly but took their time before they started reacting. They waited to quarantine the area and worse they waited to report the outbreak. Therefore the problem will be larger than it had to be. It could devastate a third world country. Hell, it could devastate China because they waited so long to start doing something about it.
I heard on the radio today that the number the Chinese are reporting dead more than doubled since yesterday. And that they felt the Chinese were waaaaaaay under reporting the actual number of infected and the number who have died. They also said the Chinese might have taken way too long to quarantine a large enough area. But that will have to wait to be seen. If they start seeing infections outside the quarantined areas you know they waited too long.
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 29, 2020, 02:51:28 PM
Brave young man posted frank video on Wuhan situation
https://youtu.be/7OEqybiGdaA
I don't speak Chinese, so the subtitles could be wrong. He might be talking about how he is the best Xbox player in the country.
All jokes aside, hope everyone here prepares for if SHTF. Not only food and water, but like he mentioned, medicine and other daily essentials if you can't leave your home. What do you have to do if outside is no habitable? Sit tight and go off of your supplies and cross your fingers.
Post by: drck1000 on January 29, 2020, 03:38:03 PM
What you said is exactly why I doubt we will ever see another pandemic outbreak like the Spanish Flu. We are fairly prepared for something like this. The Chinese are reacting quickly but took their time before they started reacting. They waited to quarantine the area and worse they waited to report the outbreak. Therefore the problem will be larger than it had to be. It could devastate a third world country. Hell, it could devastate China because they waited so long to start doing something about it.Sometimes I wonder if there are folks with similar "what if type" minds that write these SHTF books and movies (or maybe same people). Then there are shows like Criminal Minds, Law Abiding Citizen, etc where I think to myself "what kind of an asshole would think up things like that". But hopefully we have enough in the US who do contingency planning. We have a group that does that at work, but for more focused group and scenarios.
I heard on the radio today that the number the Chinese are reporting dead more than doubled since yesterday. And that they felt the Chinese were waaaaaaay under reporting the actual number of infected and the number who have died. They also said the Chinese might have taken way too long to quarantine a large enough area. But that will have to wait to be seen. If they start seeing infections outside the quarantined areas you know they waited too long.
The part about devastating a smaller country probably isn't very far fetched. With the areas around Wuhan being pretty rural and poor (at least reports I heard mentioned that), with access to healthcare and stuff like quarantine responses being pretty much non-existent, I would envision things spreading pretty wide in that area with incubation period of days to a week (or more).
Post by: Inspector on January 29, 2020, 07:39:19 PM
Brave young man posted frank video on Wuhan situationIf true it is quite sad. What I took away from this video is he kept saying he is not brainwashed. He knows how bad the government is. How bad he is treated. And how he would love to live in democracy and freedom. Very very sad.
https://youtu.be/7OEqybiGdaA
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 29, 2020, 10:35:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/nBh0jQt.jpg?1)
The number of Google searches for "Corona Beer Virus" is multiplying faster than the actual cases of the disease.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/01/30/coronavirus-is-not-the-corona-beer-virus-what-people-are-googling/#1ed6c7a65884
Post by: new guy on January 29, 2020, 11:00:53 PM
Post by: Kuleana on January 29, 2020, 11:49:29 PM
Brave young man posted frank video on Wuhan situation
https://youtu.be/7OEqybiGdaA
He seemed very authentic, until he started criticizing his country and asking overseas Chinese to spread the word of how bad the response of China's government is to the current epidemic. How will demonizing China help those who are suffering in Wuhan?
Why not ask overseas Chinese to send medical supplies to Wuhan instead?
No way of telling if he is truly from Wuhan or some ethnic Chinese stooge who has been paid-off to demonize China.
Post by: Inspector on January 30, 2020, 12:36:41 AM
Latest casualty of the virus:https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=35841.msg317690#msg317690
(https://i.imgur.com/nBh0jQt.jpg?1)
The number of Google searches for "Corona Beer Virus" is multiplying faster than the actual cases of the disease.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/01/30/coronavirus-is-not-the-corona-beer-virus-what-people-are-googling/#1ed6c7a65884
Post by: Inspector on January 30, 2020, 07:51:00 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/health/person-to-person-transmission-coronavirus-reported-in-us-cdc
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 30, 2020, 11:23:04 AM
He seemed very authentic, until he started criticizing his country and asking overseas Chinese to spread the word of how bad the response of China's government is to the current epidemic. How will demonizing China help those who are suffering in Wuhan?
Why not ask overseas Chinese to send medical supplies to Wuhan instead?
No way of telling if he is truly from Wuhan or some ethnic Chinese stooge who has been paid-off to demonize China.
I have a better question. Why is he DEMONIZING China? Isn't that what you're doing to the USA on a regular basis?
I see him as CRITICIZING China. That's a more honest characterization.
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Demonize:
to try to make someone or a group of people seem as if they are evil:
The Nazis used racist propaganda in an attempt to demonize the Jews.
He's not saying they are evil based on no evidence. He is saying there are conditions there that indicate the gov't, includng local gov't, is not being honest nor reacting to the crisis in a rational or serious manner. Gas stations are shut down, all trains are halted, hospitals can't provide needed services, emergency numbers are not answering due to the volume of calls, etc, etc.
Demonize? Hardly.
You think China can't produce or obtain supplies? That they need to rely on overseas donations? Please! Most of what the world buys is marked "Made in China." :rofl:
Post by: Kuleana on January 30, 2020, 12:42:52 PM
I have a better question. Why is he DEMONIZING China? Isn't that what you're doing to the USA on a regular basis?
I see him as CRITICIZING China. That's a more honest characterization.
He's not saying they are evil based on no evidence. He is saying there are conditions there that indicate the gov't, includng local gov't, is not being honest nor reacting to the crisis in a rational or serious manner. Gas stations are shut down, all trains are halted, hospitals can't provide needed services, emergency numbers are not answering due to the volume of calls, etc, etc.
Demonize? Hardly.
You think China can't produce or obtain supplies? That they need to rely on overseas donations? Please! Most of what the world buys is marked "Made in China." :rofl:
Just because many things are made in China, does not mean the government can simply grab what has been produced for export. They have to produce what they need on-top what is contractually promised to their foreign customers.
With that online poster, there is no evidence that he is even living in China or a Chinese national. With all the anti-Chinese rhetoric circulating online, it would be no surprise that he is just one of those people adding to the evil-China propaganda.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 30, 2020, 01:37:38 PM
Just because many things are made in China, does not mean the government can simply grab what has been produced for export. They have to produce what they need on-top what is contractually promised to their foreign customers.
You know that for a FACT? Or are you hypothesizing?
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With that online poster, there is no evidence that he is even living in China or a Chinese national. With all the anti-Chinese rhetoric circulating online, it would be no surprise that he is just one of those people adding to the evil-China propaganda.
You have evidence he's NOT living in China? Without evidence to support your arguments, you cast doubt on the video because he, too, didn't present evidence to establish his credibility.
You are welcome to have the opinion that the video can't be trusted, but without evidence to support that opinion, you're in no better a position than the person who may be risking his freedom (or life) to put a video out about local conditions.
Post by: macsak on January 30, 2020, 08:12:50 PM
With that online poster, there is no evidence that he is even living inChinaHawaii or (is) aChineseHawaiian national. With all the anti-ChineseAmerican rhetoric circulating online, it would be no surprise that he is just one of those people adding to the evil-ChinaAmerica propaganda.
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 30, 2020, 09:44:57 PM
Sometimes I wonder if there are folks with similar "what if type" minds that write these SHTF books and movies (or maybe same people). Then there are shows like Criminal Minds, Law Abiding Citizen, etc where I think to myself "what kind of an asshole would think up things like that". But hopefully we have enough in the US who do contingency planning. We have a group that does that at work, but for more focused group and scenarios.Visiting taiwan, now i understand why they love american action films. Taiwan action films suck. Shitty gun scenes and cgi. On par with low budget action films here.
The part about devastating a smaller country probably isn't very far fetched. With the areas around Wuhan being pretty rural and poor (at least reports I heard mentioned that), with access to healthcare and stuff like quarantine responses being pretty much non-existent, I would envision things spreading pretty wide in that area with incubation period of days to a week (or more).
Taiwan has more movies/shows that involve talking, like soaps and stuff.
American imagination vs. Asian.
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Post by: Kuleana on January 30, 2020, 10:03:10 PM
same thing could be said of you
You really want to make this personal with your ongoing personal attacks.
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 31, 2020, 09:28:12 AM
Same could be said about Flap, never met him/her either.
Post by: macsak on January 31, 2020, 09:59:39 AM
You really want to make this personal with your ongoing personal attacks.
pointing out irony is different than a personal attack...
Post by: ren on January 31, 2020, 12:12:19 PM
pointing out irony is different than a personal attack...:shaka:
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 31, 2020, 12:52:24 PM
Since I have never met Kuleana, I can neither confirm or deny that Kuleana lives in China. Schroddingers cat reference.
Same could be said about Flap, never met him/her either.
Just because you think you haven't met me doesn't mean you haven't. :wave:
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 31, 2020, 08:20:37 PM
Cause were closer than CA? And do we not have a choice, as in the feds made us be 1?
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Post by: macsak on January 31, 2020, 08:57:59 PM
Is there a reason why were 1 of 7 points of entry for china?
Cause were closer than CA? And do we not have a choice, as in the feds made us be 1?
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it's all part of their plan...
Post by: macsak on January 31, 2020, 09:40:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AI3R41dGnU
Post by: Rocky on February 01, 2020, 10:20:28 AM
Is there a reason why were 1 of 7 points of entry for china?
Cause were closer than CA? And do we not have a choice, as in the feds made us be 1?
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ALL PREDOMINATELY BLUE CITY / STATE
Post by: Rocky on February 01, 2020, 10:21:45 AM
more evil-China propaganda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AI3R41dGnU
Spot on ! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: ren on February 01, 2020, 01:03:21 PM
Post by: drck1000 on February 03, 2020, 08:39:39 AM
pointing out irony is different than a personal attack...I guess his meds kicked in. . .
Post by: macsak on February 03, 2020, 09:07:20 AM
Where;s Josh Green? He responded to the measles outbreak in Samoa.
josh green has been on tv the last 2 nights railing on the feds for choosing Hawaii
we're a logical point to try and control entry of ill people...
Post by: Teichi on February 03, 2020, 01:28:08 PM
josh green has been on tv the last 2 nights railing on the feds for choosing Hawaii
we're a logical point to try and control entry of ill people...
We are just a larger version of Ellis Island.
Post by: hvybarrels on February 03, 2020, 11:03:48 PM
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 05, 2020, 02:20:10 PM
Post by: Heavies on February 05, 2020, 07:14:56 PM
Damn, cops in China in medical gowns and arming up (bullpup rifles)
I have a feeling those "hospitals" they put up in 10 days aren't for what we think they are for....
Post by: ren on February 05, 2020, 08:31:30 PM
I have a feeling those "hospitals" they put up in 10 days aren't for what we think they are for....
assembling my Z kit...
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Post by: changemyoil66 on February 06, 2020, 08:51:35 AM
Post by: Heavies on February 06, 2020, 01:25:58 PM
Post by: ren on February 06, 2020, 09:35:29 PM
Post by: Heavies on February 07, 2020, 05:46:26 AM
awww man...anyone else got mags that hold more than 10 rounds? Got choke Zs. :shake:
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Post by: changemyoil66 on February 07, 2020, 05:43:02 PM
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Post by: hvybarrels on February 07, 2020, 06:56:33 PM
Giovanni shrimp truck, usualy 45 min wait. 7 mins today.
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It is funny you mentioned this as I was noticing similar no-line or reduced-wait phenomena at different places that are usually packed to the gills. Its like the Corona Express Lane. Enjoy it now and hope those places do not go out of business.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on February 07, 2020, 08:19:51 PM
I almost "warned" them that they ought to have it tested for the virus, but they probably would not have gotten the joke. They didn't look like they are "up" on current events.
:shake:
Post by: Inspector on February 07, 2020, 08:27:38 PM
I was at Costco last night, and I saw 2 guys walking behind a cart with 3 or 4 cases of Corona.Went to a super bowl party on Sunday and I stopped at Malama Market to buy some green bottles. Eighteen bottles for $30. :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
I almost "warned" them that they ought to have it tested for the virus, but they probably would not have gotten the joke. They didn't look like they are "up" on current events.
:shake:
I’m glad I’m not an alcoholic anymore. I’d be broke.
Post by: Heavies on February 07, 2020, 08:32:18 PM
Went to a super bowl party on Sunday and I stopped at Malama Market to buy some green bottles. Eighteen bottles for $30. :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
I’m glad I’m not an alcoholic anymore. I’d be broke.
30 rollingrock for $20 at Walmart..
Post by: Heavies on February 07, 2020, 08:32:58 PM
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/02/07/breaking-news/7-in-quarantine-in-hawaii-homes-after-returning-from-china/
Post by: Heavies on February 07, 2020, 09:25:44 PM
https://www.facebook.com/100024553898725/posts/634232944071830/
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 08, 2020, 12:44:53 AM
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Post by: Inspector on February 08, 2020, 05:53:17 AM
Fake news?I watched this. While it is a bit compelling I was put off by some of the things they said and showed. For instance, the video stated that San Francisco will probably be the major epicenter of where the US will get this pandemic, when our China Syndrome/Fukushima Syndrome starts here in the US. This is certainly very possible. But the video also stated that they deserve it. This includes Nancy Pelosi and all the elites that live in “Commiefornia”. Sorry, but I don’t think anyone deserves this. Even Nancy Pelosi. The scene with “Death” standing on the Golden Gate Bridge being shown over and over again was quite melodramatic. They also kept playing the same shocking scenes over and over again. It was over dramatized and that made this more unbelievable than believable.
https://www.facebook.com/100024553898725/posts/634232944071830/
While I’m not saying this is not a serious threat. I agree that China is not being honest with the numbers. They have a serious problem on their hands. We here in the US have a serious threat on our hands. So far I see our government handling this appropriately. The problem I see is that our MSM outlets lie so much now I cannot rely on them to give accurate information about what is happening here in the US.
Is this a WMD that got loose from a China lab? Until we have proof, this sort of speculation does nothing more than scare people that are already susceptible to believing everything they are told.
Post by: Inspector on February 08, 2020, 06:32:52 AM
Post by: Inspector on February 08, 2020, 07:22:32 AM
“Before you start popping your bubble wrap, just remember the air in the bubbles is from China” :shake: :shake: :shake:
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on February 08, 2020, 10:30:56 AM
Okay, I just read this on FaceBook:
“Before you start popping your bubble wrap, just remember the air in the bubbles is from China” :shake: :shake: :shake:
Better yet, how many products are in everyone's homes marked "Made in China?"
We've had radioactive and lead-containing products pulled from store shelves. Who's to say what kinds of nasty germs have arrived here?
Ever see Outbreak with Dustin Hoffman? It's not just the products we have to be concerned with, but the ships' crews that transport the products as well as any animals the crews may have as pets.
Not a farfetched scenario, actually.
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 08, 2020, 09:46:15 PM
#falseflag
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Post by: changemyoil66 on February 10, 2020, 07:24:42 AM
28 mil affected
2.8 mill quaranteened
112k dead
Those numbers i believe.
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Post by: Inspector on February 10, 2020, 09:07:44 AM
Some sourcesWOW!!! :o :o :o
28 mil affected
2.8 mill quaranteened
112k dead
Those numbers i believe.
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Post by: changemyoil66 on February 10, 2020, 09:26:27 AM
WOW!!! :o :o :o
These numbers sound more accurate than the 250 deaths that China is reporting. You don't build 3 heath centers in 10 days for 250 deaths.
Post by: macsak on February 10, 2020, 10:11:58 AM
These numbers sound more accurate than the 250 deaths that China is reporting. You don't build 3 heath centers in 10 days for 250 deaths.
"hospitals"
Post by: macsak on February 10, 2020, 10:12:26 AM
Some sources
28 mil affected
2.8 mill quaranteened
112k dead
Those numbers i believe.
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"intel" from "sources"
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 10, 2020, 10:16:43 AM
Old vid, there are more recent ones.
Post by: aieahound on February 10, 2020, 10:57:04 AM
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Post by: drck1000 on February 10, 2020, 02:28:36 PM
Post by: Inspector on February 10, 2020, 02:58:11 PM
President Xi came out today and poured some cold water on the "this will be over soon" wishful thinking. They were supposed to open the Foxconn plants today but we will see that that actually means. Indications are this is a lot worse than what they are letting on, but on the bright side Trumps trade war might be over.I had not heard about Foxconn but I heard they reopened 10% of the Tesla plant and Apple (I think).
Post by: Inspector on February 10, 2020, 02:59:04 PM
I am not surprised by the updated numbers from "intel". A close friend is part of the State of Hawaii health emergency response-something-or-other and while no immediate alarm locally, the general message to me was the whole situation is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. Mostly because the spread to poorer countries in the region (Vietnam, Thailand, etc) that have little to no resources for this quickly escalating virus.I’m not surprised by the Intel numbers any more. They actually make more sense to me. I just wonder when are going to get the real number?
Post by: macsak on February 10, 2020, 03:03:59 PM
I had not heard about Foxconn but I heard they reopened 10% of the Tesla plant and Apple (I think).
apple doesn't make anything
hon hai (Foxconn) is the major producer of iPhones and iPads, and I believe apple laptops, not sure about computers
they were supposed to restart today, but it was postponed
Post by: Inspector on February 10, 2020, 05:22:48 PM
apple doesn't make anythingThanks for clearing that up. I try and keep up with the business news but I find myself not remembering details correctly lately. Stress and old age.
hon hai (Foxconn) is the major producer of iPhones and iPads, and I believe apple laptops, not sure about computers
they were supposed to restart today, but it was postponed
Post by: macsak on February 10, 2020, 07:34:54 PM
Thanks for clearing that up. I try and keep up with the business news but I find myself not remembering details correctly lately. Stress and old age.
sold the rest of my AAPL last week
for some reason, still up since then
Cramer was screaming about the effects of the corona virus on tech stocks
and yahoo reporting that docks are slow since shipments from china haven't restarted after Chinese new year
and also a report about most of pharmaceuticals coming from china
even if the infection is confined to china, it will still have a huge effect on the world economy
something or someone is still propping up the stock market, but I sold all my mom's mutual funds in her IRAs today
not that cash is going to be any better in the zombie apocalypse...
Post by: macsak on February 10, 2020, 07:56:59 PM
sold the rest of my AAPL last week
for some reason, still up since then
Cramer was screaming about the effects of the corona virus on tech stocks
and yahoo reporting that docks are slow since shipments from china haven't restarted after Chinese new year
and also a report about most of pharmaceuticals coming from china
even if the infection is confined to china, it will still have a huge effect on the world economy
something or someone is still propping up the stock market, but I sold all my mom's mutual funds in her IRAs today
not that cash is going to be any better in the zombie apocalypse...
Post by: Inspector on February 10, 2020, 08:55:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXjx3D066p0If you quote yourself and then post something new to yourself, isn’t that like talking to yourself? Heads
While I have made a great deal of money in the stock markets over the long haul, I lost my nerve back in early 2008 and sold all of my stock. In hindsight that was a great move because I sold right before the crash. The problem is I never jumped back in and missed probably the greatest rally ever. I decided to invest in real estate instead. Slow and steady wins the race they say. But it sure would have been nice if I could have sped up the process. I played the market back in the early 2000’s. I started with a couple of grand and turned it into a pretty good size chunk in a matter of a year. But I’ll never do that again. Too much work and stress for what I made. But the excitement and adrenaline when I sold big was amazing. I’m happy with my financial position I have now. I’m getting ready to retire. Just could have done better.
You can never time the market perfectly. You probably jumped out too soon. But if I learned one thing from my time in the markets. Never second guess yourself. See my comments above. I constantly second guess myself. It’s not good for you. So take your profits and wait out the virus. Just be ready to jump back in when the time looks good. Find something safe to put your money in temporarily until this whole thing blows over. Just one word. If the virus does not become a pandemic here in the US. And if our markets are not terribly affected by China’s shut down, our markets are not going to crash. So be ready every day to make that call. :thumbsup:
Post by: macsak on February 10, 2020, 09:19:58 PM
i'm all in cash now in my SIMPLE-IRA
my ROTH-IRA is self-directed and all in real estate
are you on Bigger Pockets?
If you quote yourself and then post something new to yourself, isn’t that like talking to yourself? Heads
While I have made a great deal of money in the stock markets over the long haul, I lost my nerve back in early 2008 and sold all of my stock. In hindsight that was a great move because I sold right before the crash. The problem is I never jumped back in and missed probably the greatest rally ever. I decided to invest in real estate instead. Slow and steady wins the race they say. But it sure would have been nice if I could have sped up the process. I played the market back in the early 2000’s. I started with a couple of grand and turned it into a pretty good size chunk in a matter of a year. But I’ll never do that again. Too much work and stress for what I made. But the excitement and adrenaline when I sold big was amazing. I’m happy with my financial position I have now. I’m getting ready to retire. Just could have done better.
You can never time the market perfectly. You probably jumped out too soon. But if I learned one thing from my time in the markets. Never second guess yourself. See my comments above. I constantly second guess myself. It’s not good for you. So take your profits and wait out the virus. Just be ready to jump back in when the time looks good. Find something safe to put your money in temporarily until this whole thing blows over. Just one word. If the virus does not become a pandemic here in the US. And if our markets are not terribly affected by China’s shut down, our markets are not going to crash. So be ready every day to make that call. :thumbsup:
Post by: Heavies on February 10, 2020, 09:31:17 PM
sold the rest of my AAPL last week
for some reason, still up since then
Cramer was screaming about the effects of the corona virus on tech stocks
and yahoo reporting that docks are slow since shipments from china haven't restarted after Chinese new year
and also a report about most of pharmaceuticals coming from china
even if the infection is confined to china, it will still have a huge effect on the world economy
something or someone is still propping up the stock market, but I sold all my mom's mutual funds in her IRAs today
not that cash is going to be any better in the zombie apocalypse...
Going to move some stuff around, was going to wait till closer to election to do it, but I think now might be a good time, at least until this stuff blows over (or blows up) Thanks for the insight!
Post by: Heavies on February 10, 2020, 09:34:05 PM
If you quote yourself and then post something new to yourself, isn’t that like talking to yourself? Heads
While I have made a great deal of money in the stock markets over the long haul, I lost my nerve back in early 2008 and sold all of my stock. In hindsight that was a great move because I sold right before the crash. The problem is I never jumped back in and missed probably the greatest rally ever. I decided to invest in real estate instead. Slow and steady wins the race they say. But it sure would have been nice if I could have sped up the process. I played the market back in the early 2000’s. I started with a couple of grand and turned it into a pretty good size chunk in a matter of a year. But I’ll never do that again. Too much work and stress for what I made. But the excitement and adrenaline when I sold big was amazing. I’m happy with my financial position I have now. I’m getting ready to retire. Just could have done better.
You can never time the market perfectly. You probably jumped out too soon. But if I learned one thing from my time in the markets. Never second guess yourself. See my comments above. I constantly second guess myself. It’s not good for you. So take your profits and wait out the virus. Just be ready to jump back in when the time looks good. Find something safe to put your money in temporarily until this whole thing blows over. Just one word. If the virus does not become a pandemic here in the US. And if our markets are not terribly affected by China’s shut down, our markets are not going to crash. So be ready every day to make that call. :thumbsup:
As soon as oblama crashed the markets I moved in, bought up all low, after his reign of terror, and trump got elected I've been making a killing! ;D Going to lay off a while now that this china thing is getting nuts, and just incase the demos steal the election and kill the economy again.
Post by: Inspector on February 11, 2020, 05:33:16 AM
I've made (and lost) plenty of money on AAPL over the yearsSelling AAPL years and years ago was a big mistake but hindsight is 20/20. At the time AAPL was up and down and was performing well. I bought stock in the tech company I was working for.
i'm all in cash now in my SIMPLE-IRA
my ROTH-IRA is self-directed and all in real estate
are you on Bigger Pockets?
My IRA’s are in cash and CD’s now that I’m close to retirement.
I’m not on bigger pockets but my nephew is. He is on there a lot. His name is JEB Brilliant. He invests in real estate in Indiana. He does flips and rentals mostly.
Post by: Inspector on February 11, 2020, 08:26:36 AM
As soon as oblama crashed the markets I moved in, bought up all low, after his reign of terror, and trump got elected I've been making a killing! ;D Going to lay off a while now that this china thing is getting nuts, and just incase the demos steal the election and kill the economy again.As I write this the markets are off their all time high this morning. But they are still up for the session. I got cold feet as I got closer to retirement to get back into the market. I think it was the uneasiness I felt from the Obama economy along with my forthcoming retirement. I was terrified of timing the market wrong and then end up like a lot of my friends whose 401K's and IRA's were at a loss at the time they wanted to retire because they didn't look ahead to their retirement date. I, on the other hand went waaaaaay overboard and went to cash/CD's far too soon. Stoopid, hindsight 20/20, regret..... :grrr:
I had $300 or $400 lying in a dormant account and bought the S&P 500 ETF and I am up well over 25% in a year or two. ;D
So far the market is not effected much by this virus. But if it breaks out and really becomes a pandemic all over I see the markets tanking. But that is just my own opinion. So far, as long as the bulk of the virus stays in China, the markets will mostly ignore it. Break out, or major companies become effected by China's slowing economy and the markets tank. I think the market is seriously watching this virus. One little breakout will affect it even if only for a day or week.
Meanwhile a 13th person has been quarantined here in the US.
Post by: drck1000 on February 11, 2020, 09:11:38 AM
As I write this the markets are off their all time high this morning. But they are still up for the session. I got cold feet as I got closer to retirement to get back into the market. I think it was the uneasiness I felt from the Obama economy along with my forthcoming retirement. I was terrified of timing the market wrong and then end up like a lot of my friends whose 401K's and IRA's were at a loss at the time they wanted to retire because they didn't look ahead to their retirement date. I, on the other hand went waaaaaay overboard and went to cash/CD's far too soon. Stoopid, hindsight 20/20, regret..... :grrr:I just switched financial guys and consolidated some of my old/stray accounts. I had a 401k from my previous job that I had rolled over. But then I started getting notices and invoices from it. I was super busy at the time and didn't pay much attention. There were a number of folks who had left the company prior to them being fully vested, so I was getting distributions of their non-vested balances. I should have been watching as the account had some awesome gains. Too bad the figures were in the thousands of dollars. . . :(
I had $300 or $400 lying in a dormant account and bought the S&P 500 ETF and I am up well over 25% in a year or two. ;D
SNIP
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 11, 2020, 09:14:06 AM
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 11, 2020, 09:30:25 AM
I had not heard about Foxconn but I heard they reopened 10% of the Tesla plant and Apple (I think).
So the couch cover I ordered is coming out of Shenzhen. Which is the same city that Foxconn is supposed to open in. 600 miles from Wuhan. As of yesterday, they were told to go back to work.
Post by: drck1000 on February 11, 2020, 09:39:00 AM
So the couch cover I ordered is coming out of Shenzhen. Which is the same city that Foxconn is supposed to open in. 600 miles from Wuhan. As of yesterday, they were told to go back to work.Be SUPER careful if what you orders comes with bubble wrap. The air in the bubbles is likely from a factory in China. . .
#somethingsaretinfoil
#beafraidveryafraid
Post by: macsak on February 11, 2020, 09:39:42 AM
I am not surprised by the updated numbers from "intel". A close friend is part of the State of Hawaii health emergency response-something-or-other and while no immediate alarm locally, the general message to me was the whole situation is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. Mostly because the spread to poorer countries in the region (Vietnam, Thailand, etc) that have little to no resources for this quickly escalating virus.
sounds like it's in NK too
it could spread like wildfire there...
Post by: drck1000 on February 11, 2020, 09:52:38 AM
sounds like it's in NK tooThem too. And we all know the info coming out of NK is super duper ultra reliable. They would never hide anything from the US, would they?
it could spread like wildfire there...
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 11, 2020, 09:57:55 AM
Be SUPER careful if what you orders comes with bubble wrap. The air in the bubbles is likely from a factory in China. . .
#somethingsaretinfoil
#beafraidveryafraid
Don't pop the bubble wrap. Super hard to resist.
Headlines on HNN would read "Man orders stuff from China and gets coronavirus because he couldn't resist the temptation not to pop bubble wrap"
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 11, 2020, 09:58:32 AM
Them too. And we all know the info coming out of NK is super duper ultra reliable. They would never hide anything from the US, would they?
NK already grabs many of it's citizens and puts them in the gulag. So no diff if they do the same with Corona.
Post by: Inspector on February 11, 2020, 10:34:45 AM
I just switched financial guys and consolidated some of my old/stray accounts. I had a 401k from my previous job that I had rolled over. But then I started getting notices and invoices from it. I was super busy at the time and didn't pay much attention. There were a number of folks who had left the company prior to them being fully vested, so I was getting distributions of their non-vested balances. I should have been watching as the account had some awesome gains. Too bad the figures were in the thousands of dollars. . . :(I won't mention the company. But one of the company's I worked for here kept taking my 401K contributions out of my paycheck and did not deposit them into my 401K account. I found this out when my quarterly statement came in the mail. Now, mind you, there were 25 or 30 employees there and I called almost everyone and asked them if the company was doing the same thing to them. And you know what they told me? "I don't know." "How do I check?" Do you know that no one ever checked nor even seem to care. It was quite the coincidence that the entire owner's family (Approx. 12 people) also went on a big overseas vacation right before I figured it out. I wrote the owner a nasty e-mail and threatened to turn the company in to the AG if he didn't put the money back into my account ASAP. Which he didn't do ASAP. He did it in two or three payments. Which was obvious to me that big vacation was taken on my 401K money. I finally got all my money minus the earnings I would have had. I left right after I got all my money back. BTW, the total amount he owed me was $900. I can't tell you how angry I was.
Post by: drck1000 on February 11, 2020, 11:09:55 AM
I won't mention the company. But one of the company's I worked for here kept taking my 401K contributions out of my paycheck and did not deposit them into my 401K account. I found this out when my quarterly statement came in the mail. Now, mind you, there were 25 or 30 employees there and I called almost everyone and asked them if the company was doing the same thing to them. And you know what they told me? "I don't know." "How do I check?" Do you know that no one ever checked nor even seem to care. It was quite the coincidence that the entire owner's family (Approx. 12 people) also went on a big overseas vacation right before I figured it out. I wrote the owner a nasty e-mail and threatened to turn the company in to the AG if he didn't put the money back into my account ASAP. Which he didn't do ASAP. He did it in two or three payments. Which was obvious to me that big vacation was taken on my 401K money. I finally got all my money minus the earnings I would have had. I left right after I got all my money back. BTW, the total amount he owed me was $900. I can't tell you how angry I was.:grrr:
Damn, that sucks!
Post by: Inspector on February 11, 2020, 05:37:16 PM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/suitcase-full-of-dead-birds-from-china-intercepted-at-virginia-airport?itm_source=parsely-api%3Futm_content%3Dnews&utm_campaign=daily_shapiro&utm_medium=email&utm_source=housefile&_hsenc=p2ANqtz--l-mfanmSc2FjHU1CgX06E2dn_2ce_QwnaNn8dqWP4Zul6s177ZRI1gemkqfiHavkUfYK-jX__EkVZ66yDMH0fNDmU8Q&_hsmi=83233051
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 11, 2020, 06:48:08 PM
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Post by: Inspector on February 12, 2020, 06:49:59 AM
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/us-stocks-feb-12-2020
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 12, 2020, 08:39:00 AM
Still keeping my order from China, Shenztsu Provence. Virus can only live for a few hours with no host. So item takes at least 2 weeks once in the box is sealed. But I'm still gonna lysol the shit out of it when it arrives. Rubber gloves and all.
Post by: Inspector on February 12, 2020, 12:11:18 PM
Watching KHON2 this morning and they reported for 2 days in a row, the number of people/new cases have dropped. Take with a grain of salt.They said on the radio this morning that they think they virus can live as long as 9 days now. Who knows?
Still keeping my order from China, Shenztsu Provence. Virus can only live for a few hours with no host. So item takes at least 2 weeks once in the box is sealed. But I'm still gonna lysol the shit out of it when it arrives. Rubber gloves and all.
Post by: macsak on February 12, 2020, 07:34:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Rd6oKbZc8
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 12, 2020, 07:40:39 PM
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Post by: Inspector on February 12, 2020, 07:55:09 PM
well, looks like the "slowing down" of the viral spread is over...Watch the markets are not going to like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Rd6oKbZc8
Post by: macsak on February 12, 2020, 08:18:49 PM
Watch the markets are not going to like that.
uh...
yeah
that means a 33% increase in infected cases and almost 20% deaths in one day
and even if you take into account the "slowing" over the last day, it's still a huge increase over 2 days
Post by: Inspector on February 12, 2020, 08:26:44 PM
uh...Depending on how the markets react and for how long, you could be looking like a genius for going into cash when you did. :thumbsup:
yeah
that means a 33% increase in infected cases and almost 20% deaths in one day
and even if you take into account the "slowing" over the last day, it's still a huge increase over 2 days
Post by: Inspector on February 12, 2020, 08:31:17 PM
Post by: macsak on February 13, 2020, 05:10:48 AM
Post by: Inspector on February 13, 2020, 05:11:23 AM
News this morning is defending China’s under reporting of the virus. They are saying that they don’t have enough test kits to make certain that the diagnosis are accurate. The new higher numbers are due to China finally deciding to diagnose cases based on symptoms. They said we should start seeing bigger numbers coming out daily for a while until the number of test kits catches up with infections. They said reporting is about 100,000 less than actual. If you can believe what they are saying.
I think the US, and particular the Trump administration, has done a good job tracking and quarantining possible cases. With the number of US citizens that had travelled to China and then came back, we only have 14 verified cases. It seems that this virus spreads easier than SARS, but most cases are fairly mild. Except for the rather young and elderly.
Right before I click post the market has dropped to 0.56% from the opening.
Post by: drck1000 on February 13, 2020, 07:36:05 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-reports-spike-in-virus-cases-with-new-diagnosis-method/ar-BBZWN53?ocid=spartanntpThe new diagnosis and classification makes sense on the reported cases. The rise in deaths still concerning. Heard a “health expert” on the radio this morning and he explained the typical evolution of a new infectious disease and trends and makes sense. At first, they don’t have the virus or agent identified, so general symptoms. Mild cases maybe previously not identified. Yadda yadda yadda.
In any case, sounds like it isn’t as lethal as some precision infections, but spreads faster/easier.
Post by: Inspector on February 13, 2020, 07:48:15 AM
The new diagnosis and classification makes sense on the reported cases. The rise in deaths still concerning. Heard a “health expert” on the radio this morning and he explained the typical evolution of a new infectious disease and trends and makes sense. At first, they don’t have the virus or agent identified, so general symptoms. Mild cases maybe previously not identified. Yadda yadda yadda.Also, on the radio this morning they were saying this is related to SARS. Much more easily transmitted but not as deadly. They also mentioned the swine flu/Spanish flu pandemic of the early 20th century. They mentioned that it was a couple of different viruses that had mutated that became the swine flu/Spanish flu pandemic. They were saying that it is possible for this virus to mutate to having the worst features of SARS and Corona. Meaning it becoming easier to spread with the deadly nature of the SARS. Not saying it is or is going to happen. It was just conjecture. It just makes everyone nervous when they put these types of thoughts into people's heads.
In any case, sounds like it isn’t as lethal as some precision infections, but spreads faster/easier.
I also read this morning that NK has a big problem with Corona and they are not reporting it because their health system cannot deal with it. They have a very porous border with China and they report zero cases of Corona. Seems impossible to me. It is easier just to kill and burn bodies than actually trying to keep people alive. We'll see what the truth is someday.
Post by: drck1000 on February 13, 2020, 09:25:51 AM
Also, on the radio this morning they were saying this is related to SARS. Much more easily transmitted but not as deadly. They also mentioned the swine flu/Spanish flu pandemic of the early 20th century. They mentioned that it was a couple of different viruses that had mutated that became the swine flu/Spanish flu pandemic. They were saying that it is possible for this virus to mutate to having the worst features of SARS and Corona. Meaning it becoming easier to spread with the deadly nature of the SARS. Not saying it is or is going to happen. It was just conjecture. It just makes everyone nervous when they put these types of thoughts into people's heads.Virus evolution/mutation is :shake: Already happens with the "regular" flu. People who don't cover their mouth when they cough drives me nuts anyways, even more now. . .
I also read this morning that NK has a big problem with Corona and they are not reporting it because their health system cannot deal with it. They have a very porous border with China and they report zero cases of Corona. Seems impossible to me. It is easier just to kill and burn bodies than actually trying to keep people alive. We'll see what the truth is someday.
Yeah, the NK thing came up previously in my convos with my buddy who is part of the State's response team. Luckily, not common for a Nork to vacation in Hawaii. :rofl:
Post by: Inspector on February 13, 2020, 10:00:35 AM
Virus evolution/mutation is :shake: Already happens with the "regular" flu. People who don't cover their mouth when they cough drives me nuts anyways, even more now. . .
Cough cough cough... :wave: :wave: :wave:
Yeah, the NK thing came up previously in my convos with my buddy who is part of the State's response team. Luckily, not common for a Nork to vacation in Hawaii. :rofl:Imagine::: Rocket Man in a Speedo!!! :shake: :shake: :shake:
Post by: drck1000 on February 13, 2020, 10:10:50 AM
Cough cough cough... :wave: :wave: :wave::shake: :shake: :shake:
Imagine::: Rocket Man in a Speedo!!! :shake: :shake: :shake:
and
:barf: :barf: :barf:
I am (hopefully) in the ending stages of a very mild cold. More irritating than serious.
Post by: Inspector on February 13, 2020, 10:38:08 AM
:shake: :shake: :shake:I hope you feel better.
and
:barf: :barf: :barf:
I am (hopefully) in the ending stages of a very mild cold. More irritating than serious.
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 13, 2020, 11:38:16 AM
Post by: tillamook on February 14, 2020, 04:14:03 PM
I heard home depot is limiting sales of N95 mask already so might be a good time to stock up before the panic hits. Regular paper masks dont protect, you need a N95 or better. I'll be in my bunker, see you guys on the other side :)
Post by: macsak on February 14, 2020, 04:48:25 PM
Possible exposures in Maui and Oahu with the visitor who tested positive when arriving back in Japan today.
I heard home depot is limiting sales of N95 mask already so might be a good time to stock up before the panic hits. Regular paper masks dont protect, you need a N95 or better. I'll be in my bunker, see you guys on the other side :)
N95 doesn't totally protect you either
it prevents 95% of particles 300 um from entering mask
virus size is 120 um...
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on February 14, 2020, 04:51:16 PM
Possible exposures in Maui and Oahu with the visitor who tested positive when arriving back in Japan today.
I heard home depot is limiting sales of N95 mask already so might be a good time to stock up before the panic hits. Regular paper masks dont protect, you need a N95 or better. I'll be in my bunker, see you guys on the other side :)
I've read/seen the virus, or a variant, can also infect people through the ocular membrane. if that's true, then no respirator masks will stop it.
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Chaolin Huang and colleagues reported the epidemiology, symptoms, and treatment of patients infected by the
2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in Wuhan, China. As ophthalmologists, we believe that transmission of
2019-nCoV through the eyes was ignored.
On Jan 22, Guangfa Wang, a member of the national expert panel on pneumonia, reported that he was infected
by 2019-nCoV during the inspection in Wuhan. He wore an N95 mask but did not wear anything
to protect his eyes. Several days before the onset of pneumonia, Wang complained of redness of the eyes.
Unprotected exposure of the eyes to 2019-nCoV in the Wuhan Fever Clinic might have allowed the virus to infect
the body.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30313-5/fulltext
About Lancet: => https://www.thelancet.com/about-us
Post by: tillamook on February 15, 2020, 05:56:38 PM
N95 doesn't totally protect you either
it prevents 95% of particles 300 um from entering mask
virus size is 120 um...
Luckily most viruses are transported in droplets sneezed or coughed out, not just floating in the air individually. No mask is perfect but it is worth the risk reduction
But It does not matter here, Ace hardware and HPM were all sold out Friday afternoon of every mask they had.
Now I have a full facemask with the p100's cartridges ready to go that have been in my prep stuff for a while. Even those are not 100% but it is so much better than the simple paper masks everyone in China is walking around with.
Post by: GlockNewb on February 16, 2020, 05:00:49 PM
OF COURSE China had a biolab a stone’s-throw away from the wet market...
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 16, 2020, 06:27:05 PM
https://youtu.be/_FRRgKBBmAEI think i mentioned the biolab when this first started. #nottinfoilanymore
OF COURSE China had a biolab a stone’s-throw away from the wet market...
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Post by: macsak on February 17, 2020, 09:00:32 PM
Post by: macsak on February 17, 2020, 09:08:16 PM
Post by: Inspector on February 18, 2020, 06:14:33 AM
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/02/investor-update-on-quarterly-guidance/Yup. Corona virus is causing apple to reissue its guidance for the quarter. This was expected by the experts but now is official. Since Apple comprises a large percentage of the Dow it is dragging the Dow down today. Right now the Dow is down around 200 points or about two thirds of a percent. China is having a hard time allowing workers back to work without spreading the virus further.
Post by: Inspector on February 24, 2020, 05:48:12 AM
Due to this the market futures dropped almost 1,000 points. So, the market opened down 997 points! About 3.5%. It has since come back up about 150 points as I write this. So it is not in free fall but a big sell off and not a crash.
Apple dropped 5% or 6% this morning. It seems like Mac is looking pretty smart this morning for his temporary flight to cash. Be ready to jump back in and make some more money.
I thought things were stabilizing until the news this weekend. The outbreak in Italy has huge implications as Europe was the hardest hit in the last big worldwide pandemic.
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 24, 2020, 11:51:49 AM
And in Germany Carnival, a car drives through the crowd...
Post by: Heavies on February 24, 2020, 02:51:41 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/millions-of-chinese-firms-face-collapse-if-banks-dont-act/ar-BB10hAyF?ocid=spartandhp
US Markets headed down....
Post by: Inspector on February 24, 2020, 04:18:30 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/millions-of-chinese-firms-face-collapse-if-banks-dont-act/ar-BB10hAyF?ocid=spartandhpYes the markets dropped a lot today. However, it remains to be seen how much exposure a lot of our companies actually have in China. Also, a lot of our companies are quite nimble and have either moved a lot of their manufacturing out of china, or are in the process, or could easily do so. I suspect retailers like Walmart might be hurt the worst but their stock didn’t take quite the hit that the rest of the market took today. Chip manufacturers and electronics manufacturers could take a huge hit since their manufacturing is harder to move to another country. Even Apple had already started building manufacturing plants in other countries. Travel and cruise stocks are dropping like rocks right now.
US Markets headed down....
It still remains to be seen how big a hit we will take. But at the same time there are a lot of other countries in much worse shape than we are due to this. I heard this morning that an email from Amazon was leaked and they are scrambling to bring as much product from Asia (particularly China) over to the mainland and stockpile it for Prime Day which is coming up. So they should be able to supply customers without fear of running out. Other news I heard is that some companies that get parts from China are sending over employees with big suitcases to transport the parts they need directly from China in order to keep their supplies continuous. While Indonesia and Vietnam are increasing their manufacturing output.
I will say this, if China doesn’t contain the virus, and if it starts spreading throughout Europe the global economy will suffer greatly. And it will effect us to some extent. However, it could also work in our favor for selling what we already supply like oil. China is Iran’s biggest customer for oil. And Iran went from like 3 to 50 (or 150?) infections overnight. All their neighbors have closed their borders with Iran. And China has backed off on oil purchases causing oil prices to drop. Iran is in big trouble financially and could be even worse if they cannot contain the virus. But I think that works to our favor.
Financial news this morning also said the clothing industry here in the US will take a huge hit because most of the sportier type clothes like sweats and hoodies a t-shirts and such are made in China mostly. So if continued look for price gauging and eventually lack of stock. Once again, this is big news and it is bad news but our exposure generally speaking is not as bad off due to the Trump sanctions causing some companies to move away from China. Our exposure seems to not be so bad. And our economy is still strong despite the rest of the world. The big thing is how well the virus is contained in other countries. And eventually our country. So far no Pandemic but it could reach that level quickly. I think we have to just wait and see at this point.
Post by: Heavies on February 24, 2020, 04:55:58 PM
Yes the markets dropped a lot today. However, it remains to be seen how much exposure a lot of our companies actually have in China. Also, a lot of our companies are quite nimble and have either moved a lot of their manufacturing out of china, or are in the process, or could easily do so. I suspect retailers like Walmart might be hurt the worst but their stock didn’t take quite the hit that the rest of the market took today. Chip manufacturers and electronics manufacturers could take a huge hit since their manufacturing is harder to move to another country. Even Apple had already started building manufacturing plants in other countries. Travel and cruise stocks are dropping like rocks right now.
It still remains to be seen how big a hit we will take. But at the same time there are a lot of other countries in much worse shape than we are due to this. I heard this morning that an email from Amazon was leaked and they are scrambling to bring as much product from Asia (particularly China) over to the mainland and stockpile it for Prime Day which is coming up. So they should be able to supply customers without fear of running out. Other news I heard is that some companies that get parts from China are sending over employees with big suitcases to transport the parts they need directly from China in order to keep their supplies continuous. While Indonesia and Vietnam are increasing their manufacturing output.
I will say this, if China doesn’t contain the virus, and if it starts spreading throughout Europe the global economy will suffer greatly. And it will effect us to some extent. However, it could also work in our favor for selling what we already supply like oil. China is Iran’s biggest customer for oil. And Iran went from like 3 to 50 (or 150?) infections overnight. All their neighbors have closed their borders with Iran. And China has backed off on oil purchases causing oil prices to drop. Iran is in big trouble financially and could be even worse if they cannot contain the virus. But I think that works to our favor.
Financial news this morning also said the clothing industry here in the US will take a huge hit because most of the sportier type clothes like sweats and hoodies a t-shirts and such are made in China mostly. So if continued look for price gauging and eventually lack of stock. Once again, this is big news and it is bad news but our exposure generally speaking is not as bad off due to the Trump sanctions causing some companies to move away from China. Our exposure seems to not be so bad. And our economy is still strong despite the rest of the world. The big thing is how well the virus is contained in other countries. And eventually our country. So far no Pandemic but it could reach that level quickly. I think we have to just wait and see at this point.
I agree, I see the US not being impacted as bad if it can be contained. Auto industries are being hit. A lot of the plastic pieces and parts all made in china. Can't build cars without vent deflectors and headlight lenses...
Post by: Inspector on February 25, 2020, 12:19:19 PM
I agree, I see the US not being impacted as bad if it can be contained. Auto industries are being hit. A lot of the plastic pieces and parts all made in china. Can't build cars without vent deflectors and headlight lenses...Yeah, and even more infections in other countries effecting the markets again today. Then the CDC announces to us that we should be prepared for the virus to hit the US. That is going to effect the markets tomorrow as well I am sure.
Since we don't have a pandemic yet on our hands it still remains to be seen. I don't want things to get worse. We just have to wait and see what is in store for us...
Post by: Rocky on February 25, 2020, 04:24:22 PM
Due to this the market futures dropped almost 1,000 points. So, the market opened down 997 points! About 3.5%. It has since come back up about 150 points as I write this. So it is not in free fall but a big sell off and not a crash.
Apple dropped 5% or 6% this morning. It seems like Mac is looking pretty smart this morning for his temporary flight to cash. Be ready to jump back in and make some more money.
Invest in 3M (face mask's) 3M United States :thumbsup:
Post by: Inspector on February 25, 2020, 05:04:23 PM
Invest in 3M (face mask's) 3M United States :thumbsup:Good call! :thumbsup:
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on February 25, 2020, 07:23:04 PM
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Mayor London Breed declared a local emergency in San Francisco Tuesday amid the coronavirus outbreak,
despite there being no confirmed cases among the city's residents.
"Although there are still zero confirmed cases in San Francisco residents, the global picture is changing rapidly,
and we need to step-up preparedness," Breed said in a statement. "We see the virus spreading in new parts of
the world every day, and we are taking the necessary steps to protect San Franciscans from harm."
Meanwhile, the SF poop patrols continue to fight the ever-growing fecal matter "epidemic" that has created real cases of hepatitis, typhus and plague/
:wacko:
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/san-francisco/sf-mayor-london-breed-declared-local-emergency-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/2241796/
Post by: Inspector on February 26, 2020, 05:39:02 AM
This morning the market is up at the time of my writing this. The market closed down another 900 points or so yesterday. We are currently up 1.25% or over $300. The level is solidly over 27,000 at 27,414. Of course that could change quickly.
China is reporting a slowing of infections and deaths. But Europe is reporting an increase in infections. Our own fed gov announced that we will get the virus here. Not a matter of if, but when. SF over reacted and declared a state of emergency. Most of the expansion of the virus is in Asia and especially the oil patch countries. The price of oil dropped to below $50 today. That is VERY low considering the norms that have been set in the Trump era. Gold, silver are down as well as the 10 year bonds are up. Meaning that people are back buying stocks again and leaving safe havens. But not in a big way. So it looks like a lot of caution out there. Most of big stock guys are saying this is a buying opportunity. Apple is up almost 3% this morning. So if you didn’t jump in when the market opened you missed the surge.
Post by: Rocky on February 26, 2020, 02:52:58 PM
Rockette said "WonTon Chip's or Maui Chip's ?"
I said "BOTH ! " :o
"We're in obviously in crisis mode ! " :shake:
LOL
Post by: Inspector on February 27, 2020, 05:23:57 AM
Wish I could post a pic to show you the naked aisle's and shelves (water, TP and other necessities) at Costco !I’d take both as well. :rofl:
Rockette said "WonTon Chip's or Maui Chip's ?"
I said "BOTH ! " :o
"We're in obviously in crisis mode ! " :shake:
LOL
I had no idea there is a run on stuff? I have not been out much lately due to the problems I am dealing with my wife. Fortunately, I don’t think we are going to need much before we leave the island. We have sufficient amounts of most everything except fresh foods. If you see me on your corner begging, please give generously! :rofl:
Post by: Inspector on February 27, 2020, 05:29:12 AM
Our economy is still strong. But these interruptions in the supply chain from China could throw us into a recession of some sort. Stay tuned...
Post by: ren on February 27, 2020, 07:36:44 AM
Post by: Inspector on February 28, 2020, 05:22:39 AM
The market is in a correction. It is apparent that there is panic in the markets and the selloff is huge. Only those who are trying to garner market share are calling this a crash. It could eventually be called a crash but at this time the experts are calling this a panic selloff. Our economy is still strong the the supply chain from China and Asia is going to effect it soon. Buying opportunities are upcoming. Because eventually the market will recover. All American companies that make virus masks are up to the tune of 40%-50% already. A lot of that are on the hopes that the Administration is considering enforcing a law from one of the wars forcing the virus mask companies to start manufacturing more masks. It seems the world is not really panicking yet. But the worldwide investors certainly are. The flight to safety such as the 10 year bond rate is significantly lower. One unintended consequence of all of this is that China’s demand for oil is way down so the price of crude is also way down. Look for lower gas prices. One last thing, the FED has said they won’t lower interest rates due to the virus. But the experts are saying to look for the FED to lower rates as much as a half percent in March. So lower mortgage rates as well are coming. Time to refi?
The bad news is that the virus seems to be spreading in Europe. Some countries/areas are restricting movement due to this. This is causing a lot of the market panic and the current selloff. China is claiming the spread is slowing in China. Can’t trust them but that is their official word. The American drug companies are developing a vaccination. Look for it in about a year. But Israel announced they may have a vaccine much sooner than that. They apparently were developing a method of using the body’s own immune system to fight viruses and they were already using a similar strain of Corona as their base. So it is possible a vaccine may be coming sooner than later. We’ll see.
Post by: drck1000 on February 28, 2020, 05:52:18 AM
A few takes from this mornings news.DARPA is supposed to be doing the same (or similar) method for developing a vaccine as Israel. They guessed having something in 90 days (was over a week ago I read the report), BUT testing, trials, and first to “high priority” groups (not us).
The market is in a correction. It is apparent that there is panic in the markets and the selloff is huge. Only those who are trying to garner market share are calling this a crash. It could eventually be called a crash but at this time the experts are calling this a panic selloff. Our economy is still strong the the supply chain from China and Asia is going to effect it soon. Buying opportunities are upcoming. Because eventually the market will recover. All American companies that make virus masks are up to the tune of 40%-50% already. A lot of that are on the hopes that the Administration is considering enforcing a law from one of the wars forcing the virus mask companies to start manufacturing more masks. It seems the world is not really panicking yet. But the worldwide investors certainly are. The flight to safety such as the 10 year bond rate is significantly lower. One unintended consequence of all of this is that China’s demand for oil is way down so the price of crude is also way down. Look for lower gas prices. One last thing, the FED has said they won’t lower interest rates due to the virus. But the experts are saying to look for the FED to lower rates as much as a half percent in March. So lower mortgage rates as well are coming. Time to refi?
The bad news is that the virus seems to be spreading in Europe. Some countries/areas are restricting movement due to this. This is causing a lot of the market panic and the current selloff. China is claiming the spread is slowing in China. Can’t trust them but that is their official word. The American drug companies are developing a vaccination. Look for it in about a year. But Israel announced they may have a vaccine much sooner than that. They apparently were developing a method of using the body’s own immune system to fight viruses and they were already using a similar strain of Corona as their base. So it is possible a vaccine may be coming sooner than later. We’ll see.
Post by: Inspector on February 28, 2020, 07:00:57 AM
DARPA is supposed to be doing the same (or similar) method for developing a vaccine as Israel. They guessed having something in 90 days (was over a week ago I read the report), BUT testing, trials, and first to “high priority” groups (not us).Due to our restrictions we may not get the early vaccines. But we may not have the need for them that some countries do. I have been reading about how woefully lacking countries with socialized medicine actually are. Most countries with socialized medicine do not have trauma centers. If you are that bad off, they just can't save you. I read this morning that a famous doctor is going around now speaking about the lacking of facilities in countries with socialized medicine. He uses the example of Princess Diana. She was in that bad crash in France. They apparently left her in the tunnel for over an hour before they could figure out where to take her because France apparently does not have a trauma center or one nearby. She apparently died because they couldn't stop the internal bleeding. For over 3 hours after she got to the hospital. Why? Because of a lack of qualified people who know what they are doing and the equipment necessary to facilitate that. In other words, if she had been in that same accident in the U.S. she probably would have been saved. Of course this is all theoretical. But it is realistic. My point in all of this being that the countries that are able to treat the virus have the abilities to treat the symptoms. I heard a lot of people who got Corona died from malnutrition and dehydration. That would be almost unheard of in this country. I would venture to guess when this thing is all over with the rate of death from Corona in this country will be much lower than most other countries. Assuming the info I heard and my assumptions are correct.
Post by: drck1000 on February 28, 2020, 07:17:28 AM
Due to our restrictions we may not get the early vaccines. But we may not have the need for them that some countries do. I have been reading about how woefully lacking countries with socialized medicine actually are. Most countries with socialized medicine do not have trauma centers. If you are that bad off, they just can't save you. I read this morning that a famous doctor is going around now speaking about the lacking of facilities in countries with socialized medicine. He uses the example of Princess Diana. She was in that bad crash in France. They apparently left her in the tunnel for over an hour before they could figure out where to take her because France apparently does not have a trauma center or one nearby. She apparently died because they couldn't stop the internal bleeding. For over 3 hours after she got to the hospital. Why? Because of a lack of qualified people who know what they are doing and the equipment necessary to facilitate that. In other words, if she had been in that same accident in the U.S. she probably would have been saved. Of course this is all theoretical. But it is realistic. My point in all of this being that the countries that are able to treat the virus have the abilities to treat the symptoms. I heard a lot of people who got Corona died from malnutrition and dehydration. That would be almost unheard of in this country. I would venture to guess when this thing is all over with the rate of death from Corona in this country will be much lower than most other countries. Assuming the info I heard and my assumptions are correct.Regarding restrictions and prioritization, yup. I hear ya. I was just surprised to hear that DARPA was working on it. You can probably read between the lines on the whys. . .
Regarding socialized medicine, yup. I hear that too. I've been to countries where it's like that and f-me if I were to have needed medical attention when I was there. I probably would have gotten better treatment going to a local Long's.
On the numbers, I can totally see the malnutrition and dehydration part. That and the mortality rates will likely do down as the "mild to no symptoms" cases start getting documented via better diagnosing methods. Time will tell, but I agree with ya. Will have to watch as things start "heating up" in S Korea, Japan, and Europe.
Post by: macsak on February 28, 2020, 07:24:34 AM
Post by: drck1000 on February 28, 2020, 07:37:40 AM
https://nypost.com/2020/02/27/americans-are-avoiding-corona-beer-amid-coronavirus-outbreak-survey-finds/Nice! Sales on Corona soon!
Post by: Rocky on February 28, 2020, 09:17:23 AM
Post by: RSN172 on February 28, 2020, 09:18:09 AM
Post by: groveler on February 28, 2020, 12:03:14 PM
Nice! Sales on Corona soon!Corona beer is pretty lame. I'm a Dos Equis dark
guy.
Buenos Tardes.
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 28, 2020, 07:29:28 PM
Geneva Auto Show cancelled after the cars and a lot of attendees already there. Coronavirus fears and panic buying.Some major bicycle race also cancelled in europe. Not tour de france
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Post by: changemyoil66 on March 01, 2020, 08:16:53 AM
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Post by: Inspector on March 01, 2020, 09:17:10 AM
What is the % if 100k people died from the virus?Well, hopefully it won’t go over the current 2% worldwide no matter how many die from the virus. Even better the percentage would go down. I was thinking if worldwide the death rate was 2% then here in the US we would probably be around 1.5%. The issue is that we only have 69 cases of infection to use as case study. That is not really enough to say that the current rate of 1.4% is an accurate number.
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Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 01, 2020, 06:54:13 PM
2nd person in WA died.
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The first fatality was a man in his 50s with preexisting health problems. Second was in his 70s and also with underlying health problems.
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In a statement, Public Health-Seattle & King County said a man in his 70s died Saturday. On Friday, health officials
said a man in his 50s died of coronavirus. Both had underlying health conditions, and both were being treated at a
hospital in Kirkland, Washington, east of Seattle.
Washington state now has 12 confirmed cases.
https://abc7ny.com/health/coronavirus-outbreak-washington-state-health-officials-report-2nd-us-death/5978117/
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Older patients and people with preexisting health conditions face the highest risk of dying from the new coronavirus,
a recent study found.
The study, done by the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, found that the overall chances of dying
from COVID-19 — the disease caused by the virus — are 2.3%. Other estimates suggest the fatality rate could be
higher: around 4.3%. The current rate, based on the ratio of reported deaths to total cases worldwide, hovers around
3.4%.
But the Chinese CDC study found that the fatality rate rate rose to 8% for patients in their 70s and 15% among those
in their 80s. Out of more than 44,000 coronavirus patients studied, the majority of deaths were among those at least 60
or older.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-death-rates-preexisting-conditions-heart-disease-cancer-2020-2
Post by: oldfart on March 01, 2020, 10:11:13 PM
https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/how-many-people-die-of-the-flu-every-year
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 02, 2020, 12:08:04 AM
How many people die from influenza? A lot.
https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/how-many-people-die-of-the-flu-every-year
Right, but the raw number of people who died to date or annually can't be compared. Have to look at the rate of deaths per infected, speed and ease of transmission, incubation periods, hosts (apparently dogs can get this new one), and ability of hospitals to treat patients in addition to their normal workload/bed space.
Coronavirus is actually the name of a family of viruses that includes MERS and SARS. It's just bad media reporting that nicknamed this specific strain, COVID-19, "coronavirus". Maybe if they could have thought of "Covfefe," they would have. :rofl:
Coronaviruses have been researched since the 1960s. Yet, the media wants us to believe it's some new virus that Trump helped create and spread.
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There are hundreds of coronaviruses, most of which circulate among animals including pigs, camels, bats and cats.
Sometimes those viruses jump to humans—called a spillover event—and can cause disease. Seven coronaviruses
are known to cause human disease, four of which are mild: viruses 229E, OC43, NL63 and HKU1. Three of the
coronaviruses can have more serious outcomes in people, and those diseases are SARS (severe acute respiratory
syndrome) which emerged in late 2002 and disappeared by 2004; MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome), which
emerged in 2012 and remains in circulation in camels; and COVID-19, which emerged in December 2019 from China
and a global effort is under way to contain its spread. COVID-19 is caused by the coronavirus known as SARS-CoV-2.
Thanks to research investments into the SARS and MERS outbreaks, NIAID scientists and grantees are better prepared
to develop diagnostics, therapeutics and vaccines against COVID-19. Included in those projects are basic research to
understand how the virus infects cells and causes disease; adapting platforms used to develop diagnostic tests and
vaccines; and evaluating treatments such as broad-spectrum antivirals and potentially monoclonal antibodies.
In fact, within two weeks of the discovery of COVID-19, NIAID researchers had determined how the virus enters cells.
https://www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-conditions/coronaviruses
Post by: Inspector on March 02, 2020, 05:17:08 AM
Post by: Inspector on March 02, 2020, 06:48:52 AM
The word is this rebound is probably due to the rumor (or news leak) that the FED is going to drop the rate a quarter of half point and might do some Quantitative Easing. The rate drop I like but the QE is harmful to our economy in the long run. If the markets stay up today and close like this we'll have to wait to see if it is just a bounce or the floor from last weeks losses. Either way, the economy is still strong and the virus is still spreading. Stay tuned...
Post by: Rocky on March 02, 2020, 07:05:38 AM
I wasn't able to post about the market earlier. But as I write this the market is up big. Up almost 600 points or 2.33%. I don't know if this is a bounce or the floor where we just go up from here. But the Futures market was swinging wildly positive to negative and back again almost a 1,000 point swing. So the markets are still volatile. Buying opportunities abound. Especially Apple if that is what you are into.Check out Inovus and others working on vaccine, especially the Australian Co which would have no FDA wait time. :wave:
The word is this rebound is probably due to the rumor (or news leak) that the FED is going to drop the rate a quarter of half point and might do some Quantitative Easing. The rate drop I like but the QE is harmful to our economy in the long run. If the markets stay up today and close like this we'll have to wait to see if it is just a bounce or the floor from last weeks losses. Either way, the economy is still strong and the virus is still spreading. Stay tuned...
Post by: drck1000 on March 02, 2020, 08:12:21 AM
As soon as we are able to start getting test kits for the virus into more hands you will probably see big chunks or people reportedly having the virus. Some are saying hundreds and some are saying thousands overnight. So theoretically, we probably already have infected in the thousands, we just don’t know it yet. I just think it is bad how the market is just panicking and predicting economic gloom and doom. I’m not saying it won’t happen but it’s not a pandemic yet.I'm thinking this is the case. That many infected either have mild symptoms or symptoms written off as the "common flu". That now that there are faster tests (CT scans) besides the "official" CDC confirmation, that the numbers will rise. I think the same thing happened in China and what CDC mentioned as the typical evolution when a new virus/infection/etc comes up.
I think it is already a pandemic, just hopefully not quite a serious as many are making it out to be. People are losing their damn minds!
Post by: drck1000 on March 02, 2020, 08:14:19 AM
Check out Inovus and others working on vaccine, especially the Australian Co which would have no FDA wait time. :wave:I bought Purell and Charmin :rofl:
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 02, 2020, 10:08:18 AM
All these are what are causing my speculation for China to be hiding info. And the 2 layers of tinfoil that I'm using now.
Post by: Inspector on March 02, 2020, 11:47:24 AM
Post by: ren on March 02, 2020, 01:54:12 PM
Post by: Inspector on March 02, 2020, 02:33:10 PM
DOn't remember a panic in 2009 over H1N1I remember that pandemic. Obama took 6 months to declare a state of emergency. After 100’s if not 1,000 US citizens had already died. Around 12k US citizens died from the Swine Flu. I don’t remember the market tanking like it did last week?
It is obvious to me the difference between then and now is social media and the main stream media. They are willing to play to the emotions of the uninformed and divide the country in order to try and hurt the president.
Post by: Rocky on March 02, 2020, 03:03:20 PM
As soon as we are able to start getting test kits for the virus into more hands you will probably see big chunks or people reportedly having the virus. Some are saying hundreds and some are saying thousands overnight. So theoretically, we probably already have infected in the thousands, we just don’t know it yet. I just think it is bad how the market is just panicking and predicting economic gloom and doom. I’m not saying it won’t happen but it’s not a pandemic yet.
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I cannot personally guarantee source >:D
CORONA UPDATE
From: "DOH.dirclerk"
Date: February 29, 2020 at 5:16:40 PM HST
Subject: COVID-19 Daily Update 2/29/20
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
DAVID Y. IGE
GOVERNOR
BRUCE S. ANDERSON, Ph.D.
DIRECTOR
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
February 29, 2020 20-009
COVID-19 Daily Update
DOH State Laboratories Division now capable of COVID-19 testing
Hawai‘i Department of Health (DOH) is now capable of in-state testing for COVID-19 and results can be ready within 24-48 hours of a sample being collected. This is a new, major development that enhances the state’s prevention and mitigation response capabilities to further safeguard the health of the people in Hawai‘i.
Previously, the state had earlier reported that testing capacity would not be ready until early next week. The DOH State Laboratories Division staff worked closely with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) around the clock to receive approval from the CDC and complete the validation process to move forward with the testing procedure in Hawai‘i.
No cases of COVID-19 identified in Hawai‘i at this time
Currently, there are no cases of COVID-19 identified in Hawai‘i. DOH is actively preparing for possible cases and working with state, county, and federal partners including the medical community in Hawai‘i. The following summary as of Feb. 29 shows the number of individuals being monitored or under quarantine. Many of these individuals were identified through screening by federal officials at the Daniel K. Inouye International Airport. These numbers fluctuate often as travelers arrive, depart, or begin and end their self-monitoring with supervision by DOH.
COVID-19 Summary of Numbers as of Feb. 29, 2020
(updated as new information becomes available)
Number of Confirmed Case(s)
0
Number of Persons Under Investigation (current, testing pending)
0
Number of Persons Under Investigation (closed, testing negative)
1
Number of Persons Under Quarantine
0
Number of Persons Self-Monitoring with DOH supervision
96
Of the 96 individuals who are self-monitoring with public health supervision, 88 are on O‘ahu, 5 are on Hawai‘i Island, 1 is on Maui, and 2 are on Kaua‘i.
Confirmed: Meets CDC criteria and positive test result received from a certified laboratory.
Person Under Investigation (PUI): Meets CDC criteria for investigation and testing pending.
Quarantine: Individuals are required to remain in a designated location and separated from others. They are actively monitored by Department of Health staff. Quarantine is enforceable by law.
Monitoring: Individuals voluntarily remain at home and refrain from work, school, gathering places, and public transit. They communicate daily with Department of Health staff.
Updating physician guidance and criteria for persons under investigation
On Feb. 27, the CDC updated the definition of a Person Under Investigation (PUI) to include travelers to other areas. CDC has posted updated Criteria to Guide Evaluation of PUI for COVID-19. On Feb. 26, the DOH issued a medical advisory which encourages clinicians to reach out to the health department to discuss testing if they have a patient who meets the criteria for a PUI.
Guidance for schools and childcare programs
The CDC recently posted interim guidance for administrators of childcare programs and K-12 schools to plan, prepare, and respond to COVID-19. School closures have taken place in Japan and South Korea.
Business continuity planning
State and county agencies are actively preparing for continuity of business operations to deal with the potential impact of COVID-19. The goal is to enable ongoing operations during a public health emergency. To address concerns about workers who have travelled to China, DOH developed a list of frequently asked questions and answers to guide local businesses.
Hawaii Department of Transportation (HDOT)
HDOT Airports Division is diligently working to clean and sanitize the facilities, especially common touchpoints like escalator handrails, doorknobs, and elevator buttons at airports statewide. HDOT is currently working to install additional hand sanitizer dispensers at HNL and neighbor island airports, especially in the lobbies and high passenger volume areas. Airlines are taking precautions by continually cleaning and sanitizing public areas, equipment and aircrafts.
National travel advisories
Before you travel, check out Travel Advisories and Alerts for your destination(s) at www.travel.state.gov/destination. The State Department and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention provide specific advice to travelers on their websites.
Preventing the spread of misinformation and disease
The Department of Health is committed to sharing information as it becomes available. People are urged not to spread misinformation or inaccurate statements that are not confirmed, and keep updated and informed on the situation. Everyone can help prevent the spread of respiratory illness with these everyday actions.
Wash your hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds.
Avoid touching your eyes, nose, and mouth with unwashed hands.
Avoid close contact with people who are sick.
Stay home when you are sick.
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Prepare for the possibility that people may want to stay home or may be asked to stay home to prevent the spread of illness.
If you have daily medication needs, have more than a week’s supply on hand and have as much on hand as your insurance will allow you to have.
Not everyone can afford to stock up on supplies or has the space to store them, but anything you can arrange in advance means one less inconvenience or one less trip to the store while you are sick.
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Screening of arriving passengers at Daniel K. Inouye International Airport in Honolulu
Foreign nationals who have traveled to mainland China within the last 14 days are being denied entry into the U.S. This includes not only people with a China passport, but all foreign nationals per Department of Homeland Security guidance. The exception is U.S. citizens, legal permanent U.S. residents or their immediate family.
Enhanced screening procedures are in place at Daniel K. Inouye International Airport to help keep the public and traveling community safe. An additional feature is the non-contact thermal temperature scanners that are used for incoming passengers from China. Airport passenger screening continues to be conducted by federal authorities from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP).
Post by: hvybarrels on March 02, 2020, 07:08:10 PM
WOW! Just WOW! The stock market seemed to shrug off all the Corona Virus panic and it closed up almost 1,300 points over 5%. Apple up 25 over 9% to 298.81. I suspected this would happen but just not today and not this much. I think the big thing is now let's wait and see how quickly China can recover its manufacturing and supply lines. If they can come back significantly in a month or less you will see the stock market respond significantly. :thumbsup:
My guess is that it is a Toilet Paper Bounce. Retail is getting some love after a record number of store closures over the past few years. We will see what happens
Post by: Inspector on March 03, 2020, 05:54:42 AM
My guess is that it is a Toilet Paper Bounce. Retail is getting some love after a record number of store closures over the past few years. We will see what happensSo far this morning the markets are up/down numerous times already. Swinging back and forth. As I write this it is down 80 points or so. But I have seen 500 point swings already this morning. The market may be down/stagnant for a few weeks. The economy might take a bit of a hit.
Toilet Paper Bounce? I have not heard that term in a while. Could very well happen. Like you said, we’ll see what happens.
Post by: oldfart on March 03, 2020, 08:21:26 AM
Went to Walmart late last night. They were nearly "wiped out" of toilet paper. :rofl:
Rubbing alcohol was gone. They had plenty of disinfectant wipes.
Distilled water was a buck a gallon. I use it for antifreeze mix, windshield washer.
Mixed with Clorox for disinfectant. Mix with Lysol or pinesol for quick floor mopping solution.
Post by: Rocky on March 03, 2020, 01:32:30 PM
Mixed with Clorox for disinfectant. Mix with Lysol or pinesol for quick floor mopping solution.Notice you didn't mention that li'l tidbit of info when Inspector was looking for a house cleaner. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: oldfart on March 03, 2020, 01:41:18 PM
Notice you didn't mention that li'l tidbit of info when Inspector was looking for a house cleaner. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:...
Would YOU want to go clean up after him?
Eeewwww
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 03, 2020, 10:54:42 PM
Notice you didn't mention that li'l tidbit of info when Inspector was looking for a house cleaner. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:Will work for ammo. Well at min spam musubi.
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Post by: changemyoil66 on March 04, 2020, 09:26:41 AM
Post by: tillamook on March 04, 2020, 09:47:26 AM
So assume it is already here and take appropriate precautions. Dont want for the idiots at the department of health tell you what to do.
Post by: tillamook on March 05, 2020, 10:36:09 AM
Inducing panic wont really help but we really need to induce some outrage that our health department is totally failing us on this.
The only think I trust less than a politician is the media though and I dont know how to get this information out.
stay safe out there, assume the virus is here and spreading. We should know if this is the case in 2-3 weeks if the hospitals get overrun with patient. But I cant test patients I want to test.
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 05, 2020, 02:00:14 PM
I think I need to call the media. Both myself and one of the docs from the urgent care here seeing patients who have just arrived from seattle and california cant get an answer when we call the health department to arrange testing. That urgent care closed today because they cant get the support and dont want to get infected themselves. The health department isnt even answering the phones for the hotline numbers they gave for physicians to call.
Inducing panic wont really help but we really need to induce some outrage that our health department is totally failing us on this.
The only think I trust less than a politician is the media though and I dont know how to get this information out.
stay safe out there, assume the virus is here and spreading. We should know if this is the case in 2-3 weeks if the hospitals get overrun with patient. But I cant test patients I want to test.
Created a dummy FB account and post on SSH what you did here. Then hundreds will comment on it and it will force action. Do it at Apple so they can't trace the IP. Unless you already have a VPN.
Post by: Heavies on March 05, 2020, 08:11:43 PM
Created a dummy FB account and post on SSH what you did here. Then hundreds will comment on it and it will force action. Do it at Apple so they can't trace the IP. Unless you already have a VPN.
This. Stolen Stuff Hawaii has a lot of pull. Don't be surprised if the media contacts YOU afterwards.
Post by: ren on March 05, 2020, 08:33:23 PM
I think I need to call the media. Both myself and one of the docs from the urgent care here seeing patients who have just arrived from seattle and california cant get an answer when we call the health department to arrange testing. That urgent care closed today because they cant get the support and dont want to get infected themselves. The health department isnt even answering the phones for the hotline numbers they gave for physicians to call.
Inducing panic wont really help but we really need to induce some outrage that our health department is totally failing us on this.
The only think I trust less than a politician is the media though and I dont know how to get this information out.
stay safe out there, assume the virus is here and spreading. We should know if this is the case in 2-3 weeks if the hospitals get overrun with patient. But I cant test patients I want to test.
our leaders will blame Pres Trump
Post by: Inspector on March 06, 2020, 06:00:19 AM
The markets are in an obvious panic. Listening to Larry Kudlow this morning reinforced my thoughts that the economy is still very strong. Especially after the job numbers for February were released. Unemployment still at a low of 3.5%. Participation rate at 63.4%. Wages up month over month 3.0%. Added number of jobs for February is 273,000. These are terrific numbers and a leading indicator that the economy is still strong. The 10 year treasury is at an all time low as traders continue to pull out of the panicked market in their flight to safety. There is some concern that this rate could turn negative. This is the same deflation that Japan and Germany are experiencing. I have long said here that deflation is probably the biggest threat to our economy. Even tho we have never really experienced deflation, it is a threat that can be hard to recover from. On the plus side most mortgage rates are tied to the 10 year treasury so look for mortgage rates to drop if they have not already. Kudlow also said that some stimulus is on the table but it won’t be panic stimulus rather it will be targeted. The stimulus will mostly be used to help prevent our economy from slowing too much due to the market panic. So the administration doesn’t want anyone to think we are panicking because we are not. I’m not sure I like this. More liquidity usually means quantitative easing or printing more money.
On a positive note, China claims the infection rate is slowing as well as the death rate. I heard a rumor late last month which I have not been able to corroborate that Foxconn will be back up and running near capacity by the end of March. We’ll see if that is true or not.
I think we’ll see the markets bottom out when we see the virus infections slow down every where else in the world other than China.
Adding to this post:
I forgot to add that airline and hotel stocks, which have been some of the hardest his in this panic drop, are coming back up today. Could this be a sign the market is going to come back soon? We’ll see.
Post by: ren on March 06, 2020, 07:30:40 AM
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 06, 2020, 08:44:04 AM
As I progress towards retirement and moving I have not had much of a chance to post in this thread.
The markets are in an obvious panic. Listening to Larry Kudlow this morning reinforced my thoughts that the economy is still very strong. Especially after the job numbers for February were released. Unemployment still at a low of 3.5%. Participation rate at 63.4%. Wages up month over month 3.0%. Added number of jobs for February is 273,000. These are terrific numbers and a leading indicator that the economy is still strong. The 10 year treasury is at an all time low as traders continue to pull out of the panicked market in their flight to safety. There is some concern that this rate could turn negative. This is the same deflation that Japan and Germany are experiencing. I have long said here that deflation is probably the biggest threat to our economy. Even tho we have never really experienced deflation, it is a threat that can be hard to recover from. On the plus side most mortgage rates are tied to the 10 year treasury so look for mortgage rates to drop if they have not already. Kudlow also said that some stimulus is on the table but it won’t be panic stimulus rather it will be targeted. The stimulus will mostly be used to help prevent our economy from slowing too much due to the market panic. So the administration doesn’t want anyone to think we are panicking because we are not. I’m not sure I like this. More liquidity usually means quantitative easing or printing more money.
On a positive note, China claims the infection rate is slowing as well as the death rate. I heard a rumor late last month which I have not been able to corroborate that Foxconn will be back up and running near capacity by the end of March. We’ll see if that is true or not.
I think we’ll see the markets bottom out when we see the virus infections slow down every where else in the world other than China.
Adding to this post:
I forgot to add that airline and hotel stocks, which have been some of the hardest his in this panic drop, are coming back up today. Could this be a sign the market is going to come back soon? We’ll see.
i thought they forced the Foxconn people to go back to work?
Post by: Rocky on March 07, 2020, 07:19:29 AM
Post by: oldfart on March 07, 2020, 08:25:22 AM
Google stopped personnel from flying to Japan and other highly infected areas on Thursday========
instead of flying, they could take a cruise ship ride. LOL
Post by: oldfart on March 07, 2020, 08:29:16 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/seventy-trapped-in-collapsed-chinese-quarantine-hotel/ar-BB10SgL7?ocid=spartanntp
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 07, 2020, 11:49:23 AM
So the Chinese govt commandeered a hotel to quarantine people....then the hotel collapsed.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/seventy-trapped-in-collapsed-chinese-quarantine-hotel/ar-BB10SgL7?ocid=spartanntp
That's one way to "treat" patients.
"No, they didn't die of the virus. They died of injuries."
Helps their coronavirus fatality stats ...
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 07, 2020, 11:56:06 AM
Among all the "we're doing everything to protect our passengers" verbiage, they say they are allowing anyone who buys a ticket through the end of March change it over the next 12 months – any ticket, any fare type, any destination -- with no change fees.
Post by: oldfart on March 07, 2020, 12:08:25 PM
Could this thing be nature's way of correcting overpopulation?
ie, a biological market correction.
Anybody remember the old Star Trek episode where the away team lands on a planet with only young people because all the old people died off?
Getting rid of grups is a recurring theme in sci fi stories. Eg. Logan's Run.
Post by: ren on March 07, 2020, 12:19:30 PM
Pondering.....
Could this thing be nature's way of correcting overpopulation?
ie, a biological market correction.
Anybody remember the old Star Trek episode where the away team lands on a planet with only young people because all the old people died off?
Getting rid of grups is a recurring theme in sci fi stories. Eg. Logan's Run.
liberal thinking you got going on
(https://www.comicsbeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/rainbow-brite-1200.jpg)
I remember that from the original Star Trek
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusroute.co.uk%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F12%2Ftrekmiri2.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
maybe we should have carousel ?
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hDt5gtMe3Go/T2EQmE5aJrI/AAAAAAAAAc0/xjrOOyaFt1c/s400/logans-run-carousel.jpg)
but I think Ace Hunter can save us from Covid19..."Deeds not Words"
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so that we don't have to turn into Damnation Alley
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Post by: Rocky on March 07, 2020, 05:08:35 PM
Getting rid of grups is a recurring theme in sci fi stories. Eg. Logan's Run.
Soylent Green anybody ? :shake: :shake:
Post by: ren on March 07, 2020, 07:58:32 PM
Soylent Green anybody ? :shake: :shake:
you old...
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 07, 2020, 07:59:45 PM
you old...
Are you insinuating nobody ever watches movies made before they were born?
If that's true, a great many people are missing out! :popcorn:
Post by: tillamook on March 07, 2020, 08:27:36 PM
Are you insinuating nobody ever watches movies made before they were born?
If that's true, a great many people are missing out! :popcorn:
Andromeda strain from 1971. Where the government actually tries to contain a virus.
Post by: Rocky on March 08, 2020, 07:32:10 AM
you old...
Eat me ! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: drck1000 on March 08, 2020, 04:02:02 PM
Eat me ! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:Old meat too tough...
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 08, 2020, 04:58:38 PM
On a side note, i watched 10 seconds of the stephen steponnappo something and had 1 guy blaming trump. Saying he is doing nothing to prevent this. Ummmm, be blocked chinese from coming in early on. I had to turn. Same ole fake news.
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Post by: Inspector on March 08, 2020, 05:30:34 PM
But the big surprise this weekend was Saudi Arabia, Russia and OPEC. Since countries are closing off areas and travel has decreased significantly all over the world, demand for crude oil has dropped. It seems that Saudi Arabia wanted OPEC to cut oil production because demand for oil is slowing. Russia, being a member of OPEC gave OPEC the finger and refuses to cut production. Meaning they will produce more than demand causing the price to drop. If they cut production along with the rest of OPEC, the price will stay fairly stabile. Assuming everyone cuts production, they will make good money per barrel but not produce as many barrels. But because Russia turned their backs on OPEC and the Saudis the Saudis decided to take things into their own hands and increased their production. In essence dropping the price and competing directly with Russia. But now supply is much higher than demand. So the price of crude oil dropped 25% down to $34/barrel by late Sunday. This is a HUGE drop in such a short period. And the Saudis are much more efficient at production and can weather the price drop much better than the Russians can. So not only can we look forward to cheaper gas, but Russia is going to get hurt financially over this. Big time. I wonder if they are going to take some sort of action militarily against the Saudis? Just a thought.
Our oil industry is also going to take a hit since the price drop will hurt us as well. Stocks will probably drop. Not just the oil stocks but the wider markets as well. This will slow our economy. So it looks like in the short term things are not getting any better. But we’ll get cheap gas.
Post by: Heavies on March 08, 2020, 06:04:19 PM
Well, a lot has happened this weekend. Looks like Italy is closing off their rich districts as CMO mentioned above. That is serious stuff.
But the big surprise this weekend was Saudi Arabia, Russia and OPEC. Since countries are closing off areas and travel has decreased significantly all over the world, demand for crude oil has dropped. It seems that Saudi Arabia wanted OPEC to cut oil production because demand for oil is slowing. Russia, being a member of OPEC gave OPEC the finger and refuses to cut production. Meaning they will produce more than demand causing the price to drop. If they cut production along with the rest of OPEC, the price will stay fairly stabile. Assuming everyone cuts production, they will make good money per barrel but not produce as many barrels. But because Russia turned their backs on OPEC and the Saudis the Saudis decided to take things into their own hands and increased their production. In essence dropping the price and competing directly with Russia. But now supply is much higher than demand. So the price of crude oil dropped 25% down to $34/barrel by late Sunday. This is a HUGE drop in such a short period. And the Saudis are much more efficient at production and can weather the price drop much better than the Russians can. So not only can we look forward to cheaper gas, but Russia is going to get hurt financially over this. Big time. I wonder if they are going to take some sort of action militarily against the Saudis? Just a thought.
Our oil industry is also going to take a hit since the price drop will hurt us as well. Stocks will probably drop. Not just the oil stocks but the wider markets as well. This will slow our economy. So it looks like in the short term things are not getting any better. But we’ll get cheap gas.
This may be good news if you are into stocks. Lower gas prices will ultimately fuel the economy, when the markets drop BUY. when things recover you'll make a profit. i'm waiting for 24K but, things may get worse before they get better..... That's my plan anyway.. each his own...
Post by: Inspector on March 08, 2020, 06:39:07 PM
Well, a lot has happened this weekend. Looks like Italy is closing off their rich districts as CMO mentioned above. That is serious stuff.I realized I made a mistake in this post. Russia is not part of OPEC. But rather Russia has an agreement with OPEC to support their market pricing in order to keep prices higher and stabile. Which is probably why Russia reneged on their agreement.
But the big surprise this weekend was Saudi Arabia, Russia and OPEC. Since countries are closing off areas and travel has decreased significantly all over the world, demand for crude oil has dropped. It seems that Saudi Arabia wanted OPEC to cut oil production because demand for oil is slowing. Russia, being a member of OPEC gave OPEC the finger and refuses to cut production. Meaning they will produce more than demand causing the price to drop. If they cut production along with the rest of OPEC, the price will stay fairly stabile. Assuming everyone cuts production, they will make good money per barrel but not produce as many barrels. But because Russia turned their backs on OPEC and the Saudis the Saudis decided to take things into their own hands and increased their production. In essence dropping the price and competing directly with Russia. But now supply is much higher than demand. So the price of crude oil dropped 25% down to $34/barrel by late Sunday. This is a HUGE drop in such a short period. And the Saudis are much more efficient at production and can weather the price drop much better than the Russians can. So not only can we look forward to cheaper gas, but Russia is going to get hurt financially over this. Big time. I wonder if they are going to take some sort of action militarily against the Saudis? Just a thought.
Our oil industry is also going to take a hit since the price drop will hurt us as well. Stocks will probably drop. Not just the oil stocks but the wider markets as well. This will slow our economy. So it looks like in the short term things are not getting any better. But we’ll get cheap gas.
Post by: macsak on March 08, 2020, 07:09:44 PM
Well, a lot has happened this weekend. Looks like Italy is closing off their rich districts as CMO mentioned above. That is serious stuff.
But the big surprise this weekend was Saudi Arabia, Russia and OPEC. Since countries are closing off areas and travel has decreased significantly all over the world, demand for crude oil has dropped. It seems that Saudi Arabia wanted OPEC to cut oil production because demand for oil is slowing. Russia, being a member of OPEC gave OPEC the finger and refuses to cut production. Meaning they will produce more than demand causing the price to drop. If they cut production along with the rest of OPEC, the price will stay fairly stabile. Assuming everyone cuts production, they will make good money per barrel but not produce as many barrels. But because Russia turned their backs on OPEC and the Saudis the Saudis decided to take things into their own hands and increased their production. In essence dropping the price and competing directly with Russia. But now supply is much higher than demand. So the price of crude oil dropped 25% down to $34/barrel by late Sunday. This is a HUGE drop in such a short period. And the Saudis are much more efficient at production and can weather the price drop much better than the Russians can. So not only can we look forward to cheaper gas, but Russia is going to get hurt financially over this. Big time. I wonder if they are going to take some sort of action militarily against the Saudis? Just a thought.
Our oil industry is also going to take a hit since the price drop will hurt us as well. Stocks will probably drop. Not just the oil stocks but the wider markets as well. This will slow our economy. So it looks like in the short term things are not getting any better. But we’ll get cheap gas.
oil and stock futures were halted multiple times because they are cratering...
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 08, 2020, 09:29:31 PM
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Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 08, 2020, 10:04:49 PM
Asians all over the world being attacked. If this happened to blacks, it would be front page news.
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Asians? I thought Corona was bottled in Mexico..... :thumbsup:
Post by: Inspector on March 09, 2020, 05:22:30 AM
oil and stock futures were halted multiple times because they are cratering...The market dropped almost 2100 points this morning. They stopped trading for 15 minutes. It is currently down about 1600 points. I think this is the first time in my lifetime I have seen such a market sell off with the economy in such good shape. But this market sell off could trigger a recession.
The thought for the oil war between Russia and Saudi Arabia is that Russia decided to continue its production in order to drop oil prices purposely because they are trying to bankrupt the US oil industry. The shale oil we get from fracking requires a price of $45-$54 a barrel in order to be profitable. And since we are competing against Russia now that we are a net exporter of oil and gas, the Russians know the low prices will hurt our industry. And Saudi Arabia is trying to flood the market by increasing production because they are pissed that Russia did not live up to its agreement with OPEC. They are trying to hurt Russia’s economy. So the oil wars are on.
Post by: tillamook on March 09, 2020, 08:01:02 AM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 09, 2020, 10:22:24 AM
at very least the lack of proper testing by the health Department will likely get the state government shut down here pretty soon before these bills can be voted on.. Sick patient on a plane from Seattle tests positive but the other 250 people on that plane are now walking around Honolulu untested.
I'm sure the others were provided complimentary hand sanitizer and a $10 voucher for the airport food court to apologize for the screening delay.
The gov't will protect us .... *cough*cough.
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 09, 2020, 12:39:27 PM
at very least the lack of proper testing by the health Department will likely get the state government shut down here pretty soon before these bills can be voted on.. Sick patient on a plane from Seattle tests positive but the other 250 people on that plane are now walking around Honolulu untested.
I'm upset that they didn't release the flight number and seats at the 5pm PC. Instead they did the next morning. That's 14 hours someone could have stayed home instead of going out to dinner.
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 09, 2020, 01:22:42 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 09, 2020, 02:49:32 PM
On a side note, on KTUH 90.3 radio 2 weeks ago, there was a gal who called in saying she lives in Hualei and was on lock down. She states that she hasn't had any human contact in 2 weeks. What's keeping her sane is she's skyping with friends and family in the US. So hows she getting her food?
Domino's?
Pay by credit card, and have the driver leave it on a table by the door?
Post by: macsak on March 09, 2020, 03:22:47 PM
On a side note, on KTUH 90.3 radio 2 weeks ago, there was a gal who called in saying she lives in Hualei and was on lock down. She states that she hasn't had any human contact in 2 weeks. What's keeping her sane is she's skyping with friends and family in the US. So hows she getting her food?
she has no guns ammo reloading components magazines clips body armor comms or preps
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 09, 2020, 04:48:57 PM
Domino's?Not sure if delivery has was also shut down.
Pay by credit card, and have the driver leave it on a table by the door?
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Post by: ren on March 09, 2020, 04:57:47 PM
Post by: Inspector on March 10, 2020, 06:17:18 AM
Post by: Kuleana on March 10, 2020, 07:23:39 AM
The Chinese leader visited Wuhan today. He claims he is ordering everyone back to work by the end of the week. Can we believe him?
Trump also does not think the Coronavirus is big deal after learning about Washington DC's first case. (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-life-during-coronavirus-business-as-usual/ar-BB10YRj7?li=BBnbcA1)
Do we not believe him?
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 10, 2020, 07:30:15 AM
Gov saya travel wont be restricted, markets will remain open. Just gatherings closed such as school, church, events.
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Post by: zippz on March 10, 2020, 10:02:41 AM
All this time I thought cleaning latrines was punishment in the military Now I learned it was actually job skills training.
Post by: RSN172 on March 11, 2020, 08:02:55 AM
Flew from HNL to ITO on HA yesterday and quite a bit of empty seats. Don't know if that is the SW effect or because of CVirus. Airport in general was pretty light, but Tue is one of the lightest travel days.
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 11, 2020, 08:10:00 AM
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Post by: changemyoil66 on March 11, 2020, 11:16:05 AM
Post by: ren on March 11, 2020, 11:19:51 AM
Entire Italy on lock down, all non-essential told to stay home. Not sure how reliable theintelinformation is, source is not a real doctor.
Post by: Rocky on March 11, 2020, 11:53:04 AM
Quote from: changemyoil66 on Today at 11:16:05 AM
Entire Italy on lock down, all non-essential told to stay home. Not sure how reliable theintelinformationWhistle Blower is, source is not a real doctor.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 11, 2020, 03:39:45 PM
https://youtu.be/dcsZjfs2cB4
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 11, 2020, 04:15:17 PM
U guys want some tinfoil?
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Post by: macsak on March 11, 2020, 04:16:28 PM
Today, President Trump announced a 30-day travel ban from the US to Europe.
https://youtu.be/dcsZjfs2cB4
https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-suspends-season-after-player-reportedly-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-013559701.html
Post by: macsak on March 11, 2020, 04:16:41 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-suspends-season-after-player-reportedly-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-013559701.html
https://www.khon2.com/top-stories/tom-hanks-and-rita-wilson-test-positive-for-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR0gwIJQtXVz9qJUmQD7SARNkAnBnR9jHte3vlUJcivzIaWyOxLpSl2QOxk
Post by: drck1000 on March 11, 2020, 04:22:33 PM
Post by: Inspector on March 11, 2020, 04:32:35 PM
I have TP. . . anyone wanna barter for some ammo? ;DI have ammo. Need TP. Meet for dinner?
Post by: macsak on March 11, 2020, 04:33:51 PM
I have ammo. Need TP. Meet for dinner?
no handshakes or hugs
Post by: Inspector on March 11, 2020, 04:42:05 PM
no handshakes or hugsIs Corona okay?
Post by: drck1000 on March 11, 2020, 04:45:44 PM
I have ammo. Need TP. Meet for dinner?Oh yeah. Need to schedule that.
If ya seriously need TP, DM me. . . ??? :rofl:
no handshakes or hugsclips
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 11, 2020, 04:48:00 PM
I have TP. . . anyone wanna barter for some ammo? ;D
If you don't have at least SOME ammo, I wouldn't be advertising you have something someone WITH ammo needs.
Just saying. :shake:
Post by: drck1000 on March 11, 2020, 04:53:59 PM
If you don't have at least SOME ammo, I wouldn't be advertising you have something someone WITH ammo needs.Nope. I don't have ANY ammo. Bring lots of ammo. O0
Just saying. :shake:
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 11, 2020, 04:57:30 PM
If you don't have at least SOME ammo, I wouldn't be advertising you have something someone WITH ammo needs.I do not have any
Just saying. :shake:
FirearmsammoreloadingequipmentbodyarmorcommsTP
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Post by: macsak on March 11, 2020, 05:00:12 PM
Oh yeah. Need to schedule that.
If ya seriously need TP, DM me. . . ??? :rofl:
clips
talula hugs
Post by: drck1000 on March 11, 2020, 05:02:20 PM
talula hugsKnock it off Joe "Macsak" Biden :crazy:
:rofl:
Post by: Inspector on March 11, 2020, 05:19:45 PM
Oh yeah. Need to schedule that.Got plenty, thanks! Just have to pay an additional $35 for an extra suitcase to bring it with me to AZ. I can’t take a chance that the shelves will still be empty when I arrive in a couple of weeks. Assuming my luggage doesn’t disappear in transit. TP is a hot commodity right now. :wacko:
If ya seriously need TP, DM me. . . ??? :rofl:
clips
Post by: drck1000 on March 11, 2020, 05:50:49 PM
Got plenty, thanks! Just have to pay an additional $35 for an extra suitcase to bring it with me to AZ. I can’t take a chance that the shelves will still be empty when I arrive in a couple of weeks. Assuming my luggage doesn’t disappear in transit. TP is a hot commodity right now. :wacko:How about have Amazon deliver some?
Post by: Inspector on March 11, 2020, 06:36:33 PM
How about have Amazon deliver some?I just assumed Amazon would be out too. I’ll check it out.
Post by: aieahound on March 11, 2020, 06:57:11 PM
Cornholio ?
Need TP for my bunghole?
My wife’s been ordering from Sam’s Club.
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 11, 2020, 07:05:38 PM
I just assumed Amazon would be out too. I’ll check it out.They might have delivery gps on the trucks, so u know where they are and when to be home.
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Post by: drck1000 on March 11, 2020, 07:09:00 PM
https://youtu.be/LHv2dIM3t9IYeah. Free delivery in the Sams brand stuff. Seems like they are getting stock back in. Was out for a little bit there.
Cornholio ?
Need TP for my bunghole?
My wife’s been ordering from Sam’s Club.
Post by: drck1000 on March 11, 2020, 07:09:42 PM
I just assumed Amazon would be out too. I’ll check it out.Seems like certain brands are out here and there. Had to check going rate for potential bartering ;D
Post by: oldfart on March 11, 2020, 07:55:52 PM
How about have Amazon deliver some?....
Some my coworkers actually received deliveries of TP yesterday.
From Amazon, I think.
Post by: ren on March 11, 2020, 08:16:22 PM
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 12, 2020, 07:56:59 AM
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Post by: drck1000 on March 12, 2020, 08:13:49 AM
....The USPS lady in my bldg probably hates our floor. My next door neighbor (a good friend) and I buy all sorts of crap from Amazon. Plus his work sends him a bunch of stuff via USPS. My neighbor on the other side is a Sears appliance guy and all sorts of stuff gets delivered, alot via USPS. ;D
Some my coworkers actually received deliveries of TP yesterday.
From Amazon, I think.
Post by: oldfart on March 12, 2020, 09:24:04 AM
https://youtu.be/PN4JZOZ3rpg
:thumbsup:
Post by: 6716J on March 12, 2020, 01:10:41 PM
Post by: zippz on March 12, 2020, 02:02:54 PM
Post by: 6716J on March 12, 2020, 04:25:06 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 12, 2020, 05:00:58 PM
are the exact same people pushing for government-run healthcare and the destruction of private health insurance?
Post by: oldfart on March 12, 2020, 05:42:20 PM
Post by: RSN172 on March 12, 2020, 08:50:50 PM
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 13, 2020, 06:07:08 PM
Cant win with these people. Barry waited months for his flu epidemic. Trump saw the writing on the wall and blocked early.
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Post by: oldfart on March 13, 2020, 09:26:10 PM
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 13, 2020, 09:27:30 PM
Daughter was flying out to CA tomorrow. Trip is cancelled. Dad is relieved.Im amazed, still got a good # of friends in diff groups traveling to japan, australia, and korea.
Mainland ok, as long as not wa, ny, ca
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Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 13, 2020, 11:38:34 PM
Im amazed, still got a good # of friends in diff groups traveling to japan, australia, and korea.
Mainland ok, as long as not wa, ny, ca
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News said there's nothing Hawaii can do right now to stop anyone from traveling here from any mainland US area, even those that have been seeing a large number of cases.
They also said we still have people traveling here from S. Korea, even though they have a rapidly increasing number of cases there. There's an "honor system" here. When they arrive, they are supposed to self-quarantine if they start to experience symptoms.
Of course, that does nothing for the planes full of passengers who were exposed BEFORE symptoms were presented.
Hawaii is 100% dependent on travel. They'll risk a massive outbreak before putting common sense restrictions on arrivals from anywhere that the feds don't make them.
Post by: Inspector on March 14, 2020, 05:34:47 AM
A guy at work told me that Hawaiian is cancelling all flights to the mainland. This is how fake news is created.
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 14, 2020, 07:19:20 AM
News said there's nothing Hawaii can do right now to stop anyone from traveling here from any mainland US area, even those that have been seeing a large number of cases.My coworkers wife came in from the city where s.korea had the outbreak. Shes been there for a month. No symptoms, and she is not self guaranteeing. Her english sucks so he cant argue or make her do anything.
They also said we still have people traveling here from S. Korea, even though they have a rapidly increasing number of cases there. There's an "honor system" here. When they arrive, they are supposed to self-quarantine if they start to experience symptoms.
Of course, that does nothing for the planes full of passengers who were exposed BEFORE symptoms were presented.
Hawaii is 100% dependent on travel. They'll risk a massive outbreak before putting common sense restrictions on arrivals from anywhere that the feds don't make them.
Instead, he will self quarantine. For 2 weeks he will stay home so he doesn't infect the office. She is in her 60s and hes in his 70s.
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Post by: Inspector on March 14, 2020, 09:05:07 AM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 14, 2020, 12:56:02 PM
During the Corona Virus update this morning the president hinted at possibly restricting domestic travel over the next couple of weeks. I’m due to fly out on the 25th. I sure hope whatever restrictions they put on domestic travel don’t include from Hawaii to the mainland. I’ll be homeless with no where to go.
I've seen many times that there is always space available at the homeless shelters. :thumbsup:
Hint: dress "down".
Post by: Rocky on March 14, 2020, 03:33:09 PM
During the Corona Virus update this morning the president hinted at possibly restricting domestic travel over the next couple of weeks. I’m due to fly out on the 25th. I sure hope whatever restrictions they put on domestic travel don’t include from Hawaii to the mainland. I’ll be homeless with no where to go."Pretty wide open. You can call my activity director to make reservations"
"Wanna stay 8+ days, pay rent". :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: Inspector on March 14, 2020, 04:01:09 PM
"Pretty wide open. You can call my activity director to make reservations"Touché :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
"Wanna stay 8+ days, pay rent". :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: hvybarrels on March 14, 2020, 04:31:47 PM
There are still sick people out and about so my guess is we are likely to get whacked pretty hard. The virus is one thing, but also dangerous is how people react. Locals are still going to work sick because they cannot afford to stay home. Will see if there is a spike in crimes of desperation but other states are already rolling out the martial law language just in case.
Right now we have something like 20 people per hospital bed so hopefully the tourists clear out and improve those odds. Today after watching an elderly man have a coughing fit at the supermarket I am voluntarily reducing unnecessary trips, especially if they involve large crowds and tight quarters.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 14, 2020, 08:20:05 PM
After waiting to sort through the facts from the fiction it now looks like c19 is the real deal. Not a world ender but life after will be different. US is totally unprepared, some states worse than others. From the initial outbreak it seems to take about 50 days to peak and run its course. That means Italy is about halfway through.
There are still sick people out and about so my guess is we are likely to get whacked pretty hard. The virus is one thing, but also dangerous is how people react. Locals are still going to work sick because they cannot afford to stay home. Will see if there is a spike in crimes of desperation but other states are already rolling out the martial law language just in case.
Right now we have something like 20 people per hospital bed so hopefully the tourists clear out and improve those odds. Today after watching an elderly man have a coughing fit at the supermarket I am voluntarily reducing unnecessary trips, especially if they involve large crowds and tight quarters.
Long before Trump ran for the job, he was saying how we are way too dependent on China and other countries to provide the manufacturing we need here. Now we see how China TURNED SHIPS AROUND to use the medical supplies and other goods they made rather than have them delivered to the buyers.
We rely on China, not only for the huge number of medical devices and products used daily to treat patients, but also our medications.
This should be not only a wake-up call to those globalists who don't believe other countries would be evil enough to deprive others of the things they themselves need, but also another in a long list of things Trump got right.
According to Sleepy Creepy Joe, China is not a threat to the US.
They are if we let them continue to be our sole source for critical products.
Post by: Inspector on March 15, 2020, 07:11:47 AM
...Now we see how China TURNED SHIPS AROUND to use the medical supplies and other goods they made rather than have them delivered to the buyers.
Do you have a link to a story for this? I Googled all sorts of stuff and could not find any information on this. I mostly get cruise ship story’s and I found one story where the supplies for masks was low due to China not shipping them. But nothing about medical supplies. Thanks!
Post by: Kuleana on March 15, 2020, 07:56:46 AM
Do you have a link to a story for this? I Googled all sorts of stuff and could not find any information on this. I mostly get cruise ship story’s and I found one story where the supplies for masks was low due to China not shipping them. But nothing about medical supplies. Thanks!
I'm sorry, but he will not be able to provide you any links because his top secret security clearance prevents him from sharing his sources. :wacko:
Maybe, if we ask nicely, he can share the inside scope whether or not Trump has COVID19. :rofl:
Post by: ren on March 15, 2020, 08:02:22 AM
I'm sorry, but he will not be able to provide you any links because his top secret security clearance prevents him from sharing his sources. :wacko:
Maybe, if we ask nicely, he can share the inside scope whether or not Trump has COVID19. :rofl:
racist...
Post by: Kuleana on March 15, 2020, 08:03:36 AM
racist...
You racist.
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 15, 2020, 08:19:38 AM
Do you have a link to a story for this? I Googled all sorts of stuff and could not find any information on this. I mostly get cruise ship story’s and I found one story where the supplies for masks was low due to China not shipping them. But nothing about medical supplies. Thanks!"They" are censoring info like always.
Major defiant protest in EU today.
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Post by: ren on March 15, 2020, 09:21:15 AM
You racist.
you distressed racist
Post by: Kuleana on March 15, 2020, 09:52:44 AM
you distressed racist
You even more distressed racist.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 15, 2020, 11:07:56 AM
Do you have a link to a story for this? I Googled all sorts of stuff and could not find any information on this. I mostly get cruise ship story’s and I found one story where the supplies for masks was low due to China not shipping them. But nothing about medical supplies. Thanks!
Which part?
This article is about how China could cause our hospitals to "CEASE TO FUNCTION" if they cut off shipments of medical supplies and pharmaceuticals.
Quote
Quality isn’t the only concern. Shortages could also arise from attempts by the Chinese to cut off supply, particularly amid the U.S.-China trade standoff.
“If China shut the door on exports, our hospitals would cease to function, so this has tremendous urgency,” Gibson said.
https://www.supplychainbrain.com/articles/30066-pentagon-sees-security-threat-in-chinas-drug-supply-dominance
That was published in Aug 2019, months before the pandemic.
As for recalling cargo ships, it's been reported early on in many newscasts, but since then has been downplayed online to cover for the Communist Chinese government.
It's possible the return-to-China stories were fake news, but the facts could have been multi-faceted. Returning to port not only eased the shortages China was experiencing, but it also could have been an effort to stop the spread of the virus to other countries as well as the restrictions enacted by those other countries on any travel -- including cargo ships -- from China.
Regardless of why, there are tons of articles on how the global cargo container industry is being upended right now, particularly with regard to refrigerated containers. That underscores how dependent the world, including the US, is on China exports.
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=china+cargo+container+ships+coronavirus
Post by: Inspector on March 16, 2020, 05:37:18 AM
Which part?Thanks. The problem with my searches were that they kept coming up with cruise ship links and after 20 or so pages I wasn’t finding anything.
This article is about how China could cause our hospitals to "CEASE TO FUNCTION" if they cut off shipments of medical supplies and pharmaceuticals.
https://www.supplychainbrain.com/articles/30066-pentagon-sees-security-threat-in-chinas-drug-supply-dominance
That was published in Aug 2019, months before the pandemic.
As for recalling cargo ships, it's been reported early on in many newscasts, but since then has been downplayed online to cover for the Communist Chinese government.
It's possible the return-to-China stories were fake news, but the facts could have been multi-faceted. Returning to port not only eased the shortages China was experiencing, but it also could have been an effort to stop the spread of the virus to other countries as well as the restrictions enacted by those other countries on any travel -- including cargo ships -- from China.
Regardless of why, there are tons of articles on how the global cargo container industry is being upended right now, particularly with regard to refrigerated containers. That underscores how dependent the world, including the US, is on China exports.
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=china+cargo+container+ships+coronavirus
I have been a big proponent about keeping local. Both here in Hawaii and in the US. Being that I used to work construction, a lot of the products we would use were made in the US. Like reinforcing steel. But the cement for concrete was imported. But since the concrete was made here, it qualified as made in the US. A lot of the other products are made in the US with Chinese components. Quality was not always great. Price is always a factor. We depend too much on China for too many things. I agree with the president signing an EO to make our medicine here in the US.
Post by: Kuleana on March 16, 2020, 08:16:46 AM
Shame on you! >:(
Is this more top secret classified information that you are leaking to the public? :wtf:
I am going to tell on you..... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
"It's possible the return-to-China stories were fake news, but the facts could have been multi-faceted. Returning to port not only eased the shortages China was experiencing, but it also could have been an effort to stop the spread of the virus to other countries as well as the restrictions enacted by those other countries on any travel -- including cargo ships -- from China."
Fake news? No way; stop lying! :grrr:
Everyone knows better than to doubt or question the information you share on this forum. :thumbsup:
You are the forum's resident top secret information clearinghouse, where even the NSA, FBI, CIA, ATF, and etc. has to consult with you before sharing their findings in meetings with Trump, Congress, and/or other government officials! :worship:
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 16, 2020, 08:44:59 AM
Thanks. The problem with my searches were that they kept coming up with cruise ship links and after 20 or so pages I wasn’t finding anything.
Google censorship is strong.
Post by: Heavies on March 16, 2020, 09:28:35 AM
Google censorship is strong.
I know right. I've resorted to using multiple search engines such as bing and duckduckgo
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 16, 2020, 11:08:48 AM
"As for recalling cargo ships, it's been reported early on in many newscasts, but since then has been downplayed online to cover for the Communist Chinese government."(https://i.imgur.com/IzIYEFo.gif)
Shame on you! >:(
Is this more top secret classified information that you are leaking to the public? :wtf:
I am going to tell on you..... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
"It's possible the return-to-China stories were fake news, but the facts could have been multi-faceted. Returning to port not only eased the shortages China was experiencing, but it also could have been an effort to stop the spread of the virus to other countries as well as the restrictions enacted by those other countries on any travel -- including cargo ships -- from China."
Fake news? No way; stop lying! :grrr:
Everyone knows better than to doubt or question the information you share on this forum. :thumbsup:
You are the forum's resident top secret information clearinghouse, where even the NSA, FBI, CIA, ATF, and etc. has to consult with you before sharing their findings in meetings with Trump, Congress, and/or other government officials! :worship:
Post by: hvybarrels on March 16, 2020, 11:46:29 AM
I know right. I've resorted to using multiple search engines such as bing and duckduckgo
Quant is also good. Google AI is superior but the censorship sucks.
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 16, 2020, 01:48:01 PM
It may have already started. Vatican priest arrested, Iran politicians arrested, massive gang arrest...
#tinfoil #wouldyouliketoknowmore
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 16, 2020, 01:52:48 PM
Gonna lay it out there, this is all a cover to take down the DS. This includes the fed reserve, celebrities, politicians all over the world. Not just in the US. It comes down to money, pedophilia, and adrenochrome.
It may have already started. Vatican priest arrested, Iran politicians arrested, massive gang arrest...
#tinfoil #wouldyouliketoknowmore
^^^^
... Mental Development Arrested ...
:crazy:
Post by: aieahound on March 16, 2020, 02:28:17 PM
Gonna lay it out there, this is all a cover to take down the DS. This includes the fed reserve, celebrities, politicians all over the world. Not just in the US. It comes down to money, pedophilia, and adrenochrome.
It may have already started. Vatican priest arrested, Iran politicians arrested, massive gang arrest...
#tinfoil #wouldyouliketoknowmore
I wanna know more.
#Somethings not right....
Post by: Inspector on March 16, 2020, 02:42:12 PM
I know right. I've resorted to using multiple search engines such as bing and duckduckgoBeen using DDG a lot lately but I get in a hurry due to lack of time and sleep and I forget to use it. I'll check it later if I can.
Post by: zippz on March 16, 2020, 04:14:05 PM
Post by: hvybarrels on March 16, 2020, 05:28:42 PM
I wanna know more.
#Somethings not right....
The stock market was way out of whack with reality, so they could use CV to deflate it and buy up everything cheap for when the panic is over.
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 16, 2020, 06:02:27 PM
And switch to gold backed currency....
The stock market was way out of whack with reality, so they could use CV to deflate it and buy up everything cheap for when the panic is over.
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Post by: Heavies on March 16, 2020, 06:55:34 PM
And switch to gold backed currency....
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Media has the sheep in an uproar. Soon will be the call for the wide spread suspension of all liberty for that government provided "security"
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 16, 2020, 07:02:19 PM
Media has the sheep in an uproar. Soon will be the call for the wide spread suspension of all liberty for that government provided "security"
There are already fake news stories asking "will Trump cancel the 2020 general election to remain in office?"
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: Inspector on March 16, 2020, 07:31:08 PM
I sincerely hope this madness has calmed down by the time I get situated because walking thru Costco Saturday and Sunday I saw so many empty shelves. Eggs, chicken, hot dogs, all forms of beef except the really expensive cuts, hot pockets, etc were all gone. And I’m low on food. Surprising thing was there was choke bottled water.
This move couldn’t happen at a worst time. At least the president mentioned not taking the next step for at least 2 weeks. I move in 9 days. Now if my flight doesn’t cancel, I’m hoping I dodged a bullet.
Post by: hvybarrels on March 16, 2020, 09:00:27 PM
I think we should put a bounty out on toilet paper hoarders to shame them now rather than wait until the all clear. Post pics of your friends ridiculous TP stash and win cash!
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 16, 2020, 10:08:40 PM
https://youtu.be/xhPRxhYHqO8
Post by: Rocky on March 17, 2020, 08:31:07 AM
18 immediate family members in house, media extended to 25 total property count
Funny thing is I got wind of this 5 hrs and 15 minutes before Dr reported it.
Gotta love that coconut wireless. :shaka:
Post by: drck1000 on March 17, 2020, 08:48:40 AM
It's getting out to the country now with a community spread infection at Kualoa Ranch. :shake:Yikes! Yeah, I heard about it before the "official" reports as well.
18 immediate family members in house, media extended to 25 total property count
Funny thing is I got wind of this 5 hrs and 15 minutes before Dr reported it.
Gotta love that coconut wireless. :shaka:
Starting telework starting today. Made one last trip to Sam's yesterday, but to get a larger monitor to facilitate working from home better. Sam's actually wasn't bad yesterday. It was crowded, but lines were moving. Some people trying to hoard water and also trying to argue that they didn't see the sign for 2 limit (not sure if it was per person or transaction). They did have a lot of stock and could see a lot in the back. No TP. Lots of meat, but mostly in the back waiting for the cutters to process.
Post by: Rocky on March 17, 2020, 08:55:48 AM
Made one last trip to Sam's yesterday, but to get a larger monitor to facilitate working from home better.
Getting them "Old Man " eyes ?
Next is a scope on your EDC pistol :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: drck1000 on March 17, 2020, 09:01:48 AM
Getting them "Old Man " eyes ?You should see this thing! I got a 27" monitor and was close to getting a 32" model. Good thing I didn't as the 27" monitor is bordering too big.
Next is a scope on your EDC pistol :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Size
does
matter
:rofl:
But seriously, mostly for multitasking capability. My office workstation has two large monitors, so transitioning to working from just a laptop is a PITA.
And the RDS is just fine. As Rockette. . . 8)
Post by: zippz on March 17, 2020, 09:41:47 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/9H7CZJ3.jpg)
Post by: oldfart on March 17, 2020, 09:57:06 AM
Post by: ren on March 17, 2020, 10:28:24 AM
Post by: oldfart on March 17, 2020, 10:31:45 AM
where's PETA?====
they found jobs at Burger King, making impossible whoppers.
Post by: drck1000 on March 17, 2020, 10:34:21 AM
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 17, 2020, 10:34:59 AM
Updated this pic to reflect our current situation.
(https://i.imgur.com/9H7CZJ3.jpg)
The entire list is crossed off when I'm trying to bang a hot vegan chick. :rofl:
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 17, 2020, 10:35:13 AM
I've tried horse, whale, and kangaroo. . . :o
How was whale?
Post by: drck1000 on March 17, 2020, 12:36:03 PM
How was whale?Meh, nothing special. Had it prepared a bunch of different ways. The sashimi was interesting. It seemed more like beef tartar.
Kangaroo was really good though. Very tasty for a lean section of meat. You should check it out to keep yourself all swole. 8)
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 17, 2020, 01:01:03 PM
The entire list is crossed off when I'm trying to bang a hot vegan chick. :rofl:
You animal!
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 17, 2020, 01:59:43 PM
You animal!
Sacrifices will be made to do so. "No, I do not eat meat. And no, I do not own any firearms".
Post by: Inspector on March 18, 2020, 07:21:07 AM
The market reopened now. It’s still dropping.
Oil is at a 20 year low due to the trade war between Russia and Saudi Arabia. This is going to hurt our oil industry. Hard. We will have cheap gas for a while. That’s a good thing. We’ll see some oil companies go under or be absorbed by the bigger guys. Fracking is going to slow or stop. It remains to be seen how long they will are going to fight it out. One of them will have to give up eventually. I’m predicting it will be Russia as Saudi Arabia is a very rich country. I think they can outlast Russia. Actually, I think this is going to hurt us more than the CV is going to over the long haul. The CV and stock market is nothing more than a psychological panic. But this oil war is real and will hurt us more than is apparent currently.
Post by: drck1000 on March 18, 2020, 07:51:46 AM
Believe there are a few "Type As" on 2a. . .
Post by: crazy cat on March 18, 2020, 09:22:42 AM
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 18, 2020, 10:12:30 AM
Post by: hvybarrels on March 18, 2020, 10:45:30 AM
The dollar will be backed by gold...
The way things are going the dollar will be worth its weight in toilet paper.
Post by: hvybarrels on March 18, 2020, 01:23:33 PM
https://www.kitv.com/story/41911290/do-not-take-a-bunch-of-cash-out-of-the-bank-because-of-coronavirus
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 18, 2020, 01:30:39 PM
If we're sanitizing hand railings, chairs, doors and even the air to kill the coronavirus, why are we not also making sure the things that touch the food we feed to our families is not likewise sanitary?
Washing reusable bags carries it's own costs, as in water, detergent, heat (if using a dryer which helps kill germs), and time.
Another example of attempts to save the planet causing potentially more harm for humans.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 18, 2020, 01:40:09 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/health/people-blood-type-a-might-susceptible-coronavirus-study-finds (https://www.foxnews.com/health/people-blood-type-a-might-susceptible-coronavirus-study-finds)
Believe there are a few "Type As" on 2a. . .
The study was based on patients in China. What if the combination of "Asian" and "Type A Blood" is the reason for higher rates of infections & deaths, not blood type alone?
There are genetic differences between races that make some more susceptible to some diseases than others. Sickle cell comes to mind.
US Distribution of Blood Types
O-positive (37.4 percent)
A-positive (35.7 percent)
B-positive (8.5 percent)
O-negative (6.6 percent)
A-negative (6.3 percent)
AB-positive (3.4 percent)
B-negative (1.5 percent)
AB-negative (0.6 percent)
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 18, 2020, 02:29:50 PM
The study was based on patients in China. What if the combination of "Asian" and "Type A Blood" is the reason for higher rates of infections & deaths, not blood type alone?
There are genetic differences between races that make some more susceptible to some diseases than others. Sickle cell comes to mind.
US Distribution of Blood Types
O-positive (37.4 percent)
A-positive (35.7 percent)
B-positive (8.5 percent)
O-negative (6.6 percent)
A-negative (6.3 percent)
AB-positive (3.4 percent)
B-negative (1.5 percent)
AB-negative (0.6 percent)
So not only are we more lactose intolerant, but not with CV. Asians getting screwed again.
Post by: drck1000 on March 18, 2020, 02:32:42 PM
The study was based on patients in China. What if the combination of "Asian" and "Type A Blood" is the reason for higher rates of infections & deaths, not blood type alone?Mostly posted that in jest. Are you trying to take dogman's title? :rofl:
There are genetic differences between races that make some more susceptible to some diseases than others. Sickle cell comes to mind.
SNIP
Post by: dafrtknocker on March 18, 2020, 04:03:50 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 18, 2020, 05:33:58 PM
Mostly posted that in jest. Are you trying to take dogman's title? :rofl:
Just bored.
I'm A POS, so ..... :shake:
:geekdanc: :rofl:
Post by: Kuleana on March 18, 2020, 05:41:43 PM
{'m A POS, so ..... :shake:
I can't believe it. :shake:
You finally posted something that I am 100% in total agreement! :'(
You da man! :worship:
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 18, 2020, 05:56:05 PM
I can't believe it. :shake:
You finally posted something that I am 100% in total agreement! :'(
You da man! :worship:
I was hoping somebody got the joke.
Would have to be you .... :geekdanc: :wave:
p.s. That's how military dog tags list A+, so I've enjoyed that joke many times. :rofl:
(https://i.imgur.com/12OOOYF.jpg)
Post by: Kuleana on March 18, 2020, 06:04:11 PM
I was hoping somebody got the joke.
Would have to be you .... :geekdanc: :wave:
p.s. That's how military dog tags list A+, so I've enjoyed that joke many times. :rofl:
Joke? Was there a joke?
I always take our resident top secret information agent seriously.
Hey, did you intercept any secret transmission from Governor Ige to Mayor Caldwell to enact quasi-martial law like what is happening on Kauai?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 18, 2020, 06:05:14 PM
Joke? Was there a joke?
I always take our resident top secret information agent seriously.
Hey, did you intercept any secret transmission from Governor Ige to Mayor Caldwell to enact quasi-martial law like what is happening on Kauai?
:sleeping:
Post by: Kuleana on March 18, 2020, 06:27:25 PM
:sleeping:
No luck then? :(
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 18, 2020, 08:06:39 PM
No luck then? :(
I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.
O0
Post by: dogman on March 18, 2020, 09:11:03 PM
Mostly posted that in jest. Are you trying to take dogman's title? :rofl:
??? What'd I miss?
Post by: Kuleana on March 18, 2020, 09:18:07 PM
I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.
O0
You have to stand in line then. O0
The fascist goons that are waiting for their orders from Emergency Management to disarm the 2nd Amendment community has first cracks. :wacko:
Post by: oldfart on March 19, 2020, 07:24:09 AM
...
Joke? Was there a joke?
I always take our resident top secret information agent seriously.
Hey, did you intercept any secret transmission from Governor Ige to Mayor Caldwell to enact quasi-martial law like what is happening on Kauai?
I got a hall pass from homeland security, also issued travel credentials for curfews and roadblocks.
Assume that quasi-martial law is forthcoming.
But since khsc is closed, Ainokea
Post by: Kuleana on March 19, 2020, 07:46:08 AM
...
I got a hall pass from homeland security, also issued travel credentials for curfews and roadblocks.
Assume that quasi-martial law is forthcoming.
But since khsc is closed, Ainokea
BEWARE OF CONFISCATION!
Post by: oldfart on March 19, 2020, 08:06:27 AM
BEWARE OF CONFISCATION!...
They got bigger fish to fry now.
Post by: drck1000 on March 19, 2020, 08:17:04 AM
Nuttin'
??? What'd I miss?
Was just trying to interject some humor and sarcasm. Usual for me. ;D
Post by: Rocky on March 19, 2020, 08:32:44 AM
I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.
O0
RED FLAGGGGG ! :shake: :shake: :shake:
Post by: drck1000 on March 19, 2020, 08:48:44 AM
Instant replay "red flag"? :shake:
RED FLAGGGGG ! :shake: :shake: :shake:
:rofl:
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 19, 2020, 09:18:44 AM
BEWARE OF CONFISCATION!
Everyone should print out the law where they cannot. Because if the power or internet is out, you won't be able to pull it up online. But TBH, once they're at your door, you won't be able to change their minds.
Post by: Rocky on March 21, 2020, 06:00:58 PM
LAST UPDATED ON MARCH 20, 2020 -- 11 new cases today and 1 is a young child
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on March 20, 2020
Total (new) 37 (11)
County
Hawaii 1 (0)
Honolulu 28 (10)
Kauai 3 (1)
Maui 5 (0)
*includes presumptive and confirmed
By HNN Staff | March 20, 2020 at 1:49 PM HST - Updated March 20 at 4:41 PM
HONOLULU, Hawaii (HawaiiNewsNow) - The state Health Department on Friday confirmed community spread of coronavirus in Hawaii after two new cases were found to have no link to recent travel.
It’s a dramatic new development that will undoubtedly bolster growing calls for the governor to institute stricter measures aimed at locking down the state and stopping travel to the islands.
The Health Department reported 11 new cases of coronavirus virus Friday, including one child, bringing the statewide total to 37. Both of the new cases of community transmission are on Oahu, and the patients ― tested by private labs ― have had no direct contact with each other.
Six Hawaii residents and an injured passenger and her spouse on board the Maasdam cruise ship at Honolulu Harbor have been allowed to disembark.
The state Department of Transportation said none of the passengers had a fever or displayed any other symptoms of quarantine. They’ve been asked to self-quarantine for 14 days as a precaution.
Meanwhile, no other passengers or crew on the vessel are being allowed to leave.
“Allowing the Hawaii residents off the ship means they will avoid unnecessary air travel and reduces their risk of exposure to COVID-19," Gov. David Ige said, in a news release. "The woman with a fractured leg needs medical attention and therefore must be allowed off the boat.”
Keep safe everyone!
Post by: hvybarrels on March 21, 2020, 09:52:06 PM
All jokes aside it looks more like a lock down coming soon. Ige is waiting for testing surveillance but there is already community spread and as results come back in the numbers are growing exponentially.
Post by: Rocky on March 22, 2020, 03:17:09 PM
48 cases today. When they hit 50 does it cue the theme music?forwarded
All jokes aside it looks more like a lock down coming soon. Ige is waiting for testing surveillance but there is already community spread and as results come back in the numbers are growing exponentially.
Post by: zippz on March 22, 2020, 06:14:54 PM
Post by: drck1000 on March 23, 2020, 11:48:27 AM
Post by: RSN172 on March 23, 2020, 12:29:24 PM
Why the F is Biden putting on briefings for COVID-19? I didn't listen to the briefing, but saw that he was reported to be putting out briefings on the situation.Bcuz he figga he goin be da nex POTUS, az why.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 23, 2020, 02:15:25 PM
Bcuz he figga he goin be da nex POTUS, az why.
This was not a briefing. It was an attack ad for his campaign.
He's not telling us anything useful. He's merely doing the only thing Dems know how -- sling accusations that the media picks up and runs with no matter how dishonest they may be.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/489014-biden-trumps-failure-of-planning-and-preparation-worsened-coronavirus
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The former vice president accused the Trump administration of ignoring early warning signs
about the pandemic and of downplaying the disease at critical points when the virus was primarily
concentrated in China.
“For too long, the warning signs were ignored,” Biden said. “For too long, the administration
said the threats were under control, contained, or like the flu. The president said no one saw
this coming. That’s just not accurate. Our intelligence officials were warning about the coronavirus
threat in January. Just based on public information I had, I warned the threat was getting worse
way back on January 27.”
"For too long?" LOL! :rofl:
Quote
The first known case in the United States of COVID-19 was confirmed in the state of Washington on January 20, 2020,
in a 35-year-old man who had returned from Wuhan, China on January 15.[4]
The White House Coronavirus Task Force was established on January 29.[2]
On January 31, the Trump administration declared a public health emergency,[5] and placed travel restrictions on entry for travellers from China.[6]
Joe said he knew things were getting worse "way back on January 27th". Must have had insider information from his China contacts that paid Hunter all that money.
Poor old Joe has lost the ability to gauge time.
Meanwhile, a guest on MSNBC said Trump's actions in January (while the Dems were busy impeaching him, btw) likely prevented the US from being another Italy with regard to number and rate of new cases in Feb and Mar.
This week, the DEMOCRATS blocked the Coronavirus Stimulus Bill -- TWICE. This ought to go over well in November when voters consider who was trying to help them in a crisis, and who was obstructing.
Post by: Rocky on March 23, 2020, 04:03:03 PM
Post by: Heavies on March 23, 2020, 10:31:21 PM
1st Corona virus related death in Hawaii on Oahu.
https://buff.ly/3dsetzy?fbclid=IwAR2x3sdhfinzu6QJGbyJ-C_Wp1O1v0YPuQDMeslsxJF9V7nEmmlAvdB4HEU
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 24, 2020, 09:37:09 AM
1st Corona virus related death in Hawaii on Oahu.
https://buff.ly/3dsetzy?fbclid=IwAR2x3sdhfinzu6QJGbyJ-C_Wp1O1v0YPuQDMeslsxJF9V7nEmmlAvdB4HEU
And it was likely caught from someone who caught it while traveling. So most likely someone in the household. I've been blasting friends on social media for traveling if it's not work related cause stuff like this can happen and that's how stuff spreads. My friend who's a RN went to Australia last week and came back. First thing she did was hang at the beach in Kailua on the weekend. Another friend is in Singapore for his wedding anniversary.
I blasted that girl from BI who caught CV while in NY trying out for the Jets dance team. Cause you know, it's not like NY is the #1 for CV cases or anything.
Post by: Rocky on March 24, 2020, 06:09:01 PM
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 25, 2020, 09:30:56 AM
1st Corona virus related death in Hawaii on Oahu.
https://buff.ly/3dsetzy?fbclid=IwAR2x3sdhfinzu6QJGbyJ-C_Wp1O1v0YPuQDMeslsxJF9V7nEmmlAvdB4HEU
They made a mistake. The person didn't die from CV19.
Post by: drck1000 on March 25, 2020, 09:49:30 AM
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 25, 2020, 11:29:42 AM
Then there's the report of a family member of Hawaii Kai Costco testing positive, then later retraction. I don't shop there, but know many who do. While I think the risk would still be low, but that news is causing more panic. . .
Heads
Post by: crazy cat on March 25, 2020, 11:42:47 AM
"A sickly season," the merchant said,
"The town I left was filled with dead,
and everywhere these queer red flies
crawled upon the corpses' eyes,
eating them away."
"Fair make you sick," the merchant said,
"They crawled upon the wine and bread.
Pale priests with oil and books,
bulging eyes and crazy looks,
dropping like the flies."
"I had to laugh," the merchant said,
"The doctors purged, and dosed, and bled;
"And proved through solemn disputation
"The cause lay in some constellation.
"Then they began to die."
"First they sneezed," the merchant said,
"And then they turned the brightest red,
Begged for water, then fell back.
With bulging eyes and face turned black,
they waited for the flies."
"I came away," the merchant said,
"You can't do business with the dead.
"So I've come here to ply my trade.
"You'll find this to be a fine brocade..."
And then he sneezed.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 25, 2020, 12:12:40 PM
They made a mistake. The person didn't die from CV19.
So, the gov't is putting out fake news?
I'm shocked ....
Post by: astroboy on March 26, 2020, 11:45:11 AM
The masks were found just days after AG Barr announced a warning to those who hoard or price gouge critical medical supplies. Coincidence?
I wonder just who had possession of these masks and how many different caches made up this stash of 39 million.
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 26, 2020, 01:24:15 PM
So, the gov't is putting out fake news?
I'm shocked ....
Because it's Hawaii's gov, I wouldn't say fake news, but more incompetence. IDK which is worst.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 26, 2020, 03:45:48 PM
Because it's Hawaii's gov, I wouldn't say fake news, but more incompetence. IDK which is worst.
Fake news is anything that was published without verification and turns out to be wrong, among other types of Fakery.
They admitted they wanted to make information public as quickly as they got it. Maybe verifying it's true is just as important as rushing to make it public, if not more so?
Post by: ren on March 27, 2020, 08:02:30 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/contagion-stars-reunite-coronavirus-advice (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/contagion-stars-reunite-coronavirus-advice)
Post by: Rocky on March 27, 2020, 08:41:56 AM
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 27, 2020, 06:13:20 PM
In jan, ukraine impeachment was full steam. Could our leaders have focuses else where, like on china? Trump mentions china in his speech at sotu and pelosi tears it up.
Its a stretch.
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Post by: aieahound on March 27, 2020, 06:44:59 PM
The State should be reporting the communities they are in and if there are any clusters.
How many of them you think have a tie to Costco ? :wacko:
Post by: passivekinetic on March 27, 2020, 06:50:05 PM
Post by: macsak on March 27, 2020, 07:50:35 PM
Saw an interesting post. The cost of impeachment.
In jan, ukraine impeachment was full steam. Could our leaders have focuses else where, like on china? Trump mentions china in his speech at sotu and pelosi tears it up.
Its a stretch.
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moreso than your other "intel"?
Post by: hvybarrels on March 27, 2020, 10:00:18 PM
Post by: aieahound on March 27, 2020, 11:26:59 PM
Let us hope we acted in time. The next two weeks will be very telling.
Amen Brother.
By now there's probably no real ties to anywhere. It's everywhere already. Not like we didn't have tourists from all the major hot zones for 3 months.
It would be interesting to know the results of contact tracing.
If they’re even doing it.
Post by: Heavies on March 28, 2020, 12:21:34 AM
Amen Brother.Was watching the mayor's briefing this morning, they said that if people test positive, they would be contacting community, directly somehow ???, where the positive person resides, so they can self monitor for symptoms and take extra precautions.. for privacy concerns.
It would be interesting to know the results of contact tracing.
If they’re even doing it.
That's far fetched IMO, the can't even get their own facts straight from hour to hour....
The Ewa Beach man, currently in ICU, seemed to have caught it earlier this month, he is a Waikiki bartender. So between that time, when they kept saying "only visitor/import" infections was going on, the unfortunate man was exposed and exposing everyone from my side all the way to waikiki.
They seem to be keeping the real scoop under the radar, most definitely to prevent panic, but their inability to keep a straight story is telling.
Stay safe and take all precautions
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 28, 2020, 09:46:56 AM
moreso than your other "intel"?Dnc needed to focus more on wuhan than ukraine.
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Post by: passivekinetic on March 28, 2020, 10:15:53 AM
Works in Waikiki where tons of tourists from all over come.
Works as a bartender, so probably drinks a lot of alcohol and sleeps late. Maybe not eat the healthiest food either.
Same with his customers. Everyone has lowered immunity.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 28, 2020, 10:46:00 AM
Dnc needed to focus more on wuhan than ukraine.
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DNC? They aren't in any way an organization we should ever count on to do anything that's in the public's best interests.
PARTY FIRST.
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 28, 2020, 07:59:31 PM
DNC? They aren't in any way an organization we should ever count on to do anything that's in the public's best interests.Meant dnc senators.
PARTY FIRST.
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Post by: Rocky on March 29, 2020, 08:15:42 AM
Post by: hvybarrels on March 29, 2020, 08:46:11 AM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 29, 2020, 09:01:31 AM
Meant dnc senators.
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Oh. That's so much better! :rofl:
Post by: Rocky on March 29, 2020, 02:29:08 PM
Post by: Rocky on March 30, 2020, 07:51:38 AM
Looking for the vid someone posted re: unbagging your grocery's.
Been looking all morning and no kin fine
Would like to share with another group.
:shaka:
Post by: drck1000 on March 30, 2020, 08:07:48 AM
Help Please.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKx-F4AKteE
Looking for the vid someone posted re: unbagging your grocery's.
Been looking all morning and no kin fine
Would like to share with another group.
:shaka:
Post by: Rocky on March 30, 2020, 08:27:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKx-F4AKteE:thumbsup:
Ma-Jello
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 30, 2020, 11:50:25 AM
Our "social fabric" was torn long before any lockdown.
"Just a Prank!" - Coughing Woman Charged with Four Felonies
https://youtu.be/3RDx3vKyfZo
Post by: Rocky on March 30, 2020, 02:40:51 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 30, 2020, 04:18:26 PM
The US has exceeded 1,000,000 completed tests.
Both of those numbers exceeds any and all other nations, including China -- even though they started much sooner.
We stopped the distribution of (faulty) masks from China in the US. That action alone may have prevent thousands of new cases, particularly among healthcare workers and first responders.
So, if you read/hear that the US has identified more CV cases than any other country, it might be because we are screening more people in less time than any other country. This should help reduce the rate of transmission significantly as new cases are isolated before they spread it to more people.
Post by: pj_benn on March 30, 2020, 04:21:34 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 30, 2020, 04:56:12 PM
Can someone tell me what the published number of pending means? I know there are more people than that waiting on their test results so I’m confused
Person Under Investigation (PUI):
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1. Select “PUI, testing pending” if a PUI has been identified but the initial laboratory testing
has not yet been completed.
2. Select “PUI, tested negative” if a PUI was previously identified, but the laboratory testing
for the virus that causes COVID-19 was negative.
3. Select “laboratory-confirmed case” if a person has at least one respiratory specimen that
tested positive for the virus that causes COVID-19 by a CDC laboratory, state or local public
health laboratory, or commercial laboratory using FDA-validated COVID 19 NAA.
(Note: effective 3/14/2020 there is no longer the designation of “presumptive positive”).
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/downloads/COVID-19-Persons-Under-Investigation-and-Case-Report-Form-Instructions.pdf
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Pending cases are reclassified to appropriate categories as more information is collected
https://health.hawaii.gov/coronavirusdisease2019/what-you-should-know/current-situation-in-hawaii/
Post by: pj_benn on March 30, 2020, 05:13:06 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 30, 2020, 06:35:45 PM
Thanks for that. Guess they lying on those numbers too unless they get notified of results long before the person tested gets notified
Some show symptoms and may have been exposed, but they test negative. They might/will be quarantined for 2 weeks to make sure.
Even though those could count as negatives in the testing lists, they are actually "pending".
I'm not 100% sure on that, but it's what I've gathered from news discussions.
Post by: Rocky on March 31, 2020, 08:31:15 AM
Post by: aieahound on March 31, 2020, 09:26:44 AM
(Map from Dept of Health)
https://www.bigislandvideonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/2020-03-30-maps-2.jpg
From DOH. To be updated every Monday.
https://health.hawaii.gov/coronavirusdisease2019/what-you-should-know/current-situation-in-hawaii/
Post by: passivekinetic on March 31, 2020, 11:18:32 AM
The Zaandam originally departed from Buenos Aires on March 7 — a day before the U.S. State Department advised to avoid cruise travel and before any substantial restrictions were in place in Florida. DeSantis declared a state of emergency in the state two days later.
Passenger Emily Spindler Brazell, of Tappahannock, Virginia, said they’ve been treated to extravagant meals, wine and unlimited phone calls, but have had to isolate in their rooms.
At least two of the four deaths on the Zaandam were caused by the coronavirus, according to Panamanian authorities. Carnival said nine others have tested positive. And while many more reported feeling ill, most of the passengers and crew on both ships appear to be in good health.
“Florida continues to receive flights from New York, and it allowed spring break gatherings to go on as planned. Why turn their backs on us?” Gabaroni said.
MIAMI >> Passengers from an ill-fated South American cruise are anxious to disembark once they reach Florida, but Gov. Ron DeSantis said the state’s health care resources are already stretched too thin to take on another ship’s coronavirus caseload. The U.S. Coast Guard said today that the decision would be punted to Washington if authorities can’t agree.
The ships became pariahs as country after country sealed borders in response to the pandemic. Passengers said they were asked to keep their rooms dark and leave their drapes closed as they passed through the Panama Canal.
[Curious why "keep their rooms dark and leave their drapes closed as they passed through the Panama Canal"?]
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 31, 2020, 12:11:25 PM
The ships became pariahs as country after country sealed borders in response to the pandemic. Passengers said they were asked to keep their rooms dark and leave their drapes closed as they passed through the Panama Canal.[/i]
[Curious why "keep their rooms dark and leave their drapes closed as they passed through the Panama Canal"?]
Off the top of my head, I would guess it's purely for appearances -- an attempt to make the ship look somber and serious, less like a cruise ship full of "wealthy" people just out for a good time.
Post by: passivekinetic on March 31, 2020, 01:21:36 PM
Off the top of my head, I would guess it's purely for appearances -- an attempt to make the ship look somber and serious, less like a cruise ship full of "wealthy" people just out for a good time.
Right.
Also maybe less of a target of opportunity? LOL
Post by: RSN172 on March 31, 2020, 02:34:18 PM
Post by: passivekinetic on March 31, 2020, 03:25:13 PM
Extravagant meals, wine and confined to their room.....me thinks going get some fat people coming off that ship.
It's been noted that obesity is a risk factor for Covid LOL
Post by: drck1000 on March 31, 2020, 08:50:18 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/03/27/scientists-track-coronavirus-strains-mutation/5080571002/
Post by: Kumachan on March 31, 2020, 11:04:30 PM
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/03/af7259e5ad04-breaking-news-japan-comedian-ken-shimura-dies-after-coronavirus-infection.html
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 31, 2020, 11:15:17 PM
he will continue working from home
Quote
New York (CNN Business) CNN anchor Chris Cuomo said Tuesday that he has been diagnosed
with Covid-19.
He is feeling well, and will continue to anchor his 9 p.m. program "Cuomo Prime Time" from his
home.
"In these difficult times that seem to get more difficult and complicated by the day, I just found out
that I am positive for coronavirus," Cuomo wrote in a message on Twitter.
"I have been exposed to people in recent days who have subsequently tested positive and I had
fevers, chills and shortness of breath," he wrote. "I just hope I didn't give it to the kids and Cristina.
That would make me feel worse than this illness!"
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/media/chris-cuomo-coronavirus/index.html
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 01, 2020, 09:34:39 AM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 01, 2020, 10:56:45 AM
I'm going to assume that there are some rich dudes on that ship with their younger gf, while their wife is at home. I wonder if a 1 week business trip got extended and what they had to tell their wife. Or if the wife at home is wondering why her baby sitter cannot come to work for the same amount of time her husband is "out of town".
Your imagination is working overtime .... :popcorn:
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 01, 2020, 01:13:20 PM
Your imagination is working overtime .... :popcorn:
Bored at home. Condo is brand new, so not much to clean.
Post by: Rocky on April 01, 2020, 03:19:31 PM
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 02, 2020, 06:24:41 PM
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Post by: ren on April 02, 2020, 06:33:19 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 03, 2020, 12:04:24 AM
So the new england patriots used their plane to grab more n95 from china...no one in the gov could have done that?
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It's obvious the Chinese gov't is not going to do anything to help the US gov't look good. Hell, they tried to spread rumors that the pandemic is the result of a US Army bio-weapon.
However, they can earn PR points in the press by helping our Massachusetts hospitals out via a private endeavor. Even the private Boeing 767 was required to carry its own spare tires and parts (China can't guarantee parts if needed), and the plane was allowed 3 hours on the ground. They refueled, got the crew something to eat, loaded 1.2 million masks, and were airborne in 2 hours 57 minutes. I just hope someone performs some QA testing to make sure these aren't the bad ones other countries got from China.
If you're expecting the gov't to do everything, you haven't been paying attention.
Post by: drck1000 on April 03, 2020, 06:08:18 AM
SnipThat would certainly set a dangerous president...
If you're expecting the gov't to do everything, you haven't been paying attention.
:shake:
#nofocusonpurpose
Post by: Kuleana on April 03, 2020, 07:51:00 AM
Well, surrounding China with military bases, aircraft launched missiles, and the Seventh Fleet all poised to attack them is not the best way to maintain diplomatic relations.
"However, they can earn PR points in the press by helping our Massachusetts hospitals out via a private endeavor. Even the private Boeing 767 was required to carry its own spare tires and parts (China can't guarantee parts if needed), and the plane was allowed 3 hours on the ground. They refueled, got the crew something to eat, loaded 1.2 million masks, and were airborne in 2 hours 57 minutes. I just hope someone performs some QA testing to make sure these aren't the bad ones other countries got from China."
That is what a true anti-China war-hawk, so consumed by jealousy and hatred of China, that a clear gesture of humanitarian aid is met with bitter contempt and suspicion would say.
Post by: Rocky on April 03, 2020, 08:04:49 AM
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 03, 2020, 09:02:03 AM
That would certainly set a dangerous president...
:shake:
#nofocusonpurpose
lots of dangerous president's set due to CV. :rofl:
Post by: drck1000 on April 03, 2020, 09:13:35 AM
lots of dangerous president's set due to CV. :rofl::facepalm:
Ever seen the movie Class Act? Wedge
Probably before your time. . .
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 03, 2020, 11:52:53 AM
"It's obvious the Chinese gov't is not going to do anything to help the US gov't look good. Hell, they tried to spread rumors that the pandemic is the result of a US Army bio-weapon."
Well, surrounding China with military bases, aircraft launched missiles, and the Seventh Fleet all poised to attack them is not the best way to maintain diplomatic relations.
Leave it to you to defend China against the US... or ANY OTHER COUNTRY against the US. :sleeping:
"However, they can earn PR points in the press by helping our Massachusetts hospitals out via a private endeavor. Even the private Boeing 767 was required to carry its own spare tires and parts (China can't guarantee parts if needed), and the plane was allowed 3 hours on the ground. They refueled, got the crew something to eat, loaded 1.2 million masks, and were airborne in 2 hours 57 minutes. I just hope someone performs some QA testing to make sure these aren't the bad ones other countries got from China."
That is what a true anti-China war-hawk, so consumed by jealousy and hatred of China, that a clear gesture of humanitarian aid is met with bitter contempt and suspicion would say.
Not exactly a logical, fact-based argument/position...as usual.
Post by: Kuleana on April 03, 2020, 12:32:20 PM
Nice deflection.
I defend acts of humanitarian aid that is in desperate need by all people in the US suffering Covid-19 against the imperialists, war junkies, military industrial complex, etc., who will stop at nothing in perpetuating the animosity to those countries that they need to hate, despite the pandemic war currently being fought by the Trump Administration.
"Not exactly a logical, fact-based argument/position...as usual."
Did that description sound like what you were doing?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 03, 2020, 12:37:37 PM
Post by: Inspector on April 03, 2020, 01:14:04 PM
Well, surrounding China with military bases, aircraft launched missiles, and the Seventh Fleet all poised to attack them is not the best way to maintain diplomatic relations.Really? I see what you just described as the BEST WAY to maintain diplomatic relations. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 03, 2020, 01:19:37 PM
Really? I see what you just described as the BEST WAY to maintain diplomatic relations. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I'm no longer interested in engaging Kuleana. I may change my mind when someone uncovers an ICBM silo in Kunia. Until then ...
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :sleeping:
Post by: Inspector on April 03, 2020, 01:22:09 PM
I'm no longer interested in engaging Kuleana. I may change my mind when someone uncovers an ICBM silo in Kunia. Until then ...Not really trying to engage him. I just like to point out that there are others here that are right when he is wrong! :rofl:
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :sleeping:
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 03, 2020, 01:33:37 PM
Not really trying to engage him. I just like to point out that there are others here that are right when he is wrong! :rofl:
Sounds like a full time job! :rofl:
If Kuleana had a fish-eyed son .....
Post by: hvybarrels on April 03, 2020, 02:19:26 PM
The other argument is that without the US being the big bad enemy there is not much to hold the Xi regime together. They have a lot of problems but manage to distract their population with brinksmanship, like some other countries I know.
Post by: aieahound on April 03, 2020, 02:29:50 PM
FlappMauiDarmokMoosed is the Hahvahd guy in good will hunting.
Awesome at regurgitation but limited in thought.
His googlefu is unmatched though.
And great at deflection and attack.
Not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone.
Just making an observation.
And the Coronavirus / COVID 19 sucks.
But I guess at least we’re living ( hopefully) through a historical event.
If we make it, our kids can tell their kids “ I lived through that shit” because it will be in the history books.
Stay safe everybody.
Post by: hvybarrels on April 03, 2020, 02:48:44 PM
Post by: Kuleana on April 03, 2020, 03:32:14 PM
I'm no longer interested in engaging Kuleana. I may change my mind when someone uncovers an ICBM silo in Kunia. Until then ...
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :sleeping:
Victory.
Long live free thinking!
Viva la Revolution!
:stopjack:
Post by: Kuleana on April 03, 2020, 03:49:25 PM
Not really trying to engage him. I just like to point out that there are others here that are right when he is wrong! :rofl:
You are definitely entitled to your opinion. :thumbsup:
BTW, I know you just retired and surely hope you are healthy because the American health system is very overtaxed at the moment, due to all overspending on the military, albeit indirectly resulting in the deaths of thousands of American citizens due to Covid-19.
But, if I am not mistaken, this situation is acceptable to you, as I once recall you saying something to the effect that you rather have the US spend more of its budget to the military over silly and wasteful domestic items such as health care.
I wonder if your views have changed...
Post by: Kuleana on April 03, 2020, 04:34:34 PM
HB, I really need to reclarify something you posted above.
America, China, Russia, Iran, DPRK, etc. or any country for that matter is not inherently good or bad. Rather, it is the level of tyranny that its leadership displays to its own citizenry or to its international neighbors that one can make a determination of whether that nation is good or bad. In addition, empires and nation states on the decline also tend to be heavily corrupt and resort to miscreant foreign policies in order to divert its citizens attention away from doing the things they need to do to reclaim and clean-up their nation, so it can be sincerely respected and not feared amongst its peers.
As to your point of whether do I believe everyone should be punished for the sins for the America's ruling class; no I do not. However, I do believe everyone should be educated and reminded of those sins, if those sins continue to persist to the present.
"My concern is that, as is happening now, the predictable fallout from a failing-empire crisis will give the derp state free reign to destroy what is left of our rights. The toilet paper hoarders will beg for some 1984/BNW/Handmaid Tale rules to "protect us" and effectively end the experiment with the greatest constitution ever written (as far as I know)."
Totally agree.
Although justified due to the current pandemic crisis, we now see becoming the new norm: curfews, concentration camps for the infected, the return of the draft this time for medical professionals, and the national guard on the streets. If this will be the new norm in the future, you can bet that martial law and the confiscation of firearms for our protection will be around the corner, if and, I pray not, when this country falls into an economic depression resulting in widespread civil unrest and riots, potentially as soon during the third quarter of this year.
Post by: passivekinetic on April 03, 2020, 06:07:02 PM
Could be wrong. Could be this year.
Post by: Kuleana on April 03, 2020, 07:45:42 PM
My guess is we will see MAJOR crumbling in another two months, and it gets progressively worse, and then the SHTF thing you mention will happen NEXT year.
Could be wrong. Could be this year.
I hope I am 1,000,000% wrong and that there will be no economic depression and the multitrillion dollars that will be spent in the next couple of months will result into a situation of some normalcy by the third or fourth quarter of this year.
But, I will tell you that all of my economic colleagues have more or less said the same thing. If the nations of the World do not get control of Covid-19 in their respective countries by the end of Summer, the second wave of the virus will make a global comeback on the onset of the next flu season; hence, throwing everyone back into the same economic situation we are in right now.
If that happens, the whole World goes from a bad economic whatevers to an even worse one with hyperinflation and martial law declared everywhere. Suffice-to-say, American gun owners will have to gut check their beliefs of the 2nd Amendment because we all know what comes next, if we reach that point.
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 03, 2020, 07:47:00 PM
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Post by: hvybarrels on April 03, 2020, 10:24:38 PM
Also most viruses of the past do their damage in a period of months, not years.
Post by: Kuleana on April 03, 2020, 10:36:27 PM
I don’t see it as an overnight event but more of a slow erosion of our rights for increasingly ridiculous reasons that capitalize on the cascade of crises. Pretty much just a continuation of what has happened so far. The boiling frog approach has worked really well so far. Why mess with a good thing?
Also most viruses of the past do their damage in a period of months, not years.
Once again, I am sincerely hoping you are right and I am wrong in that the transformation of the US into a true fascist police state will not happen when we wake up in the morning.
However, we are living in an unprecedented time where global economic history is in the making. Hence, the powers elite and ultra-wealthy know they have the populace in their grasp with the upcoming economic turmoil and may want to push the button first before the economic situation gets so bad that radical revolutionary forces begin to emerge leading to a potential Second American Revolution or Civil War II that finally throws them out of power.
Post by: Inspector on April 04, 2020, 04:46:30 AM
You are definitely entitled to your opinion. :thumbsup:Oh Kuleana,
BTW, I know you just retired and surely hope you are healthy because the American health system is very overtaxed at the moment, due to all overspending on the military, albeit indirectly resulting in the deaths of thousands of American citizens due to Covid-19.
But, if I am not mistaken, this situation is acceptable to you, as I once recall you saying something to the effect that you rather have the US spend more of its budget to the military over silly and wasteful domestic items such as health care.
I wonder if your views have changed...
You took my bait hook line and sinker. I trolled you and was totally upfront about it and you still decided to try and engage me. And this coming from the masterful trolling mind that started that military spending thread that eventually got closed down. This is meant as a total compliment, BTW. I purposely stayed out of it for that reason.
Unfortunately, you misquoted me but ended making my point for me. Which is surprising as I am not sure why you disagree with me? Basically I stated I was against Social Programs that are wasteful. I did not say I was against “wasteful domestic item”. There are some I actually like. I also stated I am for most Social programs just not in their current form. And I gave the example of people being on welfare for life. I believe in limited time welfare. And I don’t believe in government run healthcare system. But I believe there should be a limited government run healthcare system that has private sector oversight. Or possibly run by a private sector group. And I believe in having a choice. My wife would prefer to have a private sector health insurance plan but is FORCED to be on Medicare. She has NO CHOICE. That sounds like Socialism to me. Also, I want to buy a private health sector health insurance plan but I am FORCED to buy Obamacare. I have NO CHOICE. This smacks of Socialism to me. And by the way is quite wasteful. But I digress. This is a subject for a different thread.
But I am getting away from the point you made for me so eloquently. The point is “wasteful”. I am against all waste. And I am quite surprised that you are not supporting me on this. Why would you not be on my side on waste of taxpayer dollars? It sounds like you might be a Socialist.... :rofl:
Post by: Kuleana on April 04, 2020, 09:13:08 AM
However, they can earn PR points in the press by helping our Massachusetts hospitals out via a private endeavor. Even the private Boeing 767 was required to carry its own spare tires and parts (China can't guarantee parts if needed), and the plane was allowed 3 hours on the ground. They refueled, got the crew something to eat, loaded 1.2 million masks, and were airborne in 2 hours 57 minutes. I just hope someone performs some QA testing to make sure these aren't the bad ones other countries got from China.
Well, Mr. anti-China, GOOD NEWS for New York; it appears China will be coming to the aid of American citizens once again with sending 1,000 ventilators to that state! :worship: :worship: :worship:
Funny how COMMUNIST CHINA is rushing to help American doctors and patients in need of medical equipment, while AMERICAN CAPITALIST COMPANIES like 3M and other PRIVATE GOUGERS are shafting their own people just to earn a buck. :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
What does this say as to who are the American people's real friends and enemies? :shake: :shake: :shake:
Communism is definitely NOT the right answer, but now we see capitalism too is NOT the right answer in all cases after all. :oops: :oops: :oops:
Post by: Rocky on April 04, 2020, 03:25:38 PM
Post by: hvybarrels on April 04, 2020, 07:47:54 PM
https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/490856-when-will-coronaviruses-cases-peak-in-your-state
Post by: Rocky on April 05, 2020, 06:24:40 AM
Post by: pj_benn on April 05, 2020, 12:39:34 PM
https://health.hawaii.gov/coronavirusdisease2019/what-you-should-know/current-situation-in-hawaii/
Read through this today because I still didn’t understand why they had so low pending numbers. Hawaii is not following the cdc guidelines from the link you posted. Their pending numbers are confirmed cases that they haven’t yet put into a certain county yet.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 05, 2020, 02:52:30 PM
Read through this today because I still didn’t understand why they had so low pending numbers. Hawaii is not following the cdc guidelines from the link you posted. Their pending numbers are confirmed cases that they haven’t yet put into a certain county yet.
That's because "We're not going to do anything like it's done on the mainland, because Hawaii is unique." :crazy:
Post by: new guy on April 05, 2020, 06:09:40 PM
Post by: 19pontiac79 on April 06, 2020, 05:42:26 AM
That's because "We're not going to do anything like it's done on the mainland, because Hawaii is unique." :crazy:
Lol I wish. Hawaii always has its mouth attached to California's ass. Except not releasing prisoners due to the wuhan. Guess there's that :thumbsup:
Post by: Rocky on April 06, 2020, 03:16:08 PM
Monitors please feel free to remove all of my "Forwarded" and "updated" posts. :worship:
Post by: Rocky on April 07, 2020, 03:45:17 PM
Post by: Rocky on April 09, 2020, 05:27:43 PM
Only 6 questions: https://www.alohatrace.org/
Filling this out even if you are well helps to track and monitor spread. :thumbsup:
Post by: RSN172 on April 09, 2020, 06:03:07 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 09, 2020, 06:21:12 PM
Regarding the BI, I read today that there were 28 that tested positive, 21 have recovered and they rest are in self quarantine. None needed to be hositalized. Guess we all got preconditioned from the vog that used to be around but disappeared in 2018.
Yeah, that has to be the reason. :crazy:
Maybe all that praying on Mauna Kea created a positive energy field around the island?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 09, 2020, 09:54:22 PM
Starting Friday night, no vehicles (cars, trucks, bikes, mopeds, scooters, etc.) are allowed on the roads from 11PM through 5AM the next morning. This will be in effect Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights -- so ending Monday morning at 5AM.
Exceptions will be made for emergency medical situations, looking for prescription refills (no word on whether medical MJ counts :rofl:), going to/from work at a place that's on the "essential" list, etc.
Walking in your community is okay. Just no driving.
Cops will be out to enforce the curfew and other lockdown orders such as only essential trips away from home. Punishment for not obeying these rules can include a $5,000 fine, 1 year in jail, or both.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/04/09/city-has-instituted-nighttime-curfew-easter-weekend-heres-how-it-works/
And for those not dealing well with these lockdown restrictions, remember it could always be worse ....
(https://i.imgur.com/GtkDQts.png)
Post by: Heavies on April 09, 2020, 10:15:39 PM
In case you haven't heard, the state is on curfew during the Easter weekend.
Starting Friday night, no vehicles (cars, trucks, bikes, mopeds, scooters, etc.) are allowed on the roads from 11PM through 5AM the next morning. This will be in effect Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights -- so ending Monday morning at 5AM.
Exceptions will be made for emergency medical situations, looking for prescription refills (no word on whether medical MJ counts :rofl: ), going to/from work at a place that's on the "essential" list, etc.
Walking in your community is okay. Just no driving.
Cops will be out to enforce the curfew and other lockdown orders such as only essential trips away from home. Punishment for not obeying these rules can include a $5,000 fine, 1 year in jail, or both.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/04/09/city-has-instituted-nighttime-curfew-easter-weekend-heres-how-it-works/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/04/09/city-has-instituted-nighttime-curfew-easter-weekend-heres-how-it-works/)
And for those not dealing well with these lockdown restrictions, remember it could always be worse ....
(https://i.imgur.com/GtkDQts.png)
(http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/ghettos/krakowgal/German%20police%20or%20soldiers%20check%20the%20identification%20papers%20of%20a%20Jew%20in%20the%20streets%20of%20Krakow.jpg)
Post by: Kuleana on April 09, 2020, 10:49:07 PM
In case you haven't heard, the state is on curfew during the Easter weekend.
Starting Friday night, no vehicles (cars, trucks, bikes, mopeds, scooters, etc.) are allowed on the roads from 11PM through 5AM the next morning. This will be in effect Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights -- so ending Monday morning at 5AM.
Exceptions will be made for emergency medical situations, looking for prescription refills (no word on whether medical MJ counts :rofl:), going to/from work at a place that's on the "essential" list, etc.
Walking in your community is okay. Just no driving.
Cops will be out to enforce the curfew and other lockdown orders such as only essential trips away from home. Punishment for not obeying these rules can include a $5,000 fine, 1 year in jail, or both.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/04/09/city-has-instituted-nighttime-curfew-easter-weekend-heres-how-it-works/
And for those not dealing well with these lockdown restrictions, remember it could always be worse ....
(https://i.imgur.com/GtkDQts.png)
The fascist transformation of the American empire has begun showing its true colors under the cover of this pandemic.
Can gun confiscation be around the corner? Better believe it can.
They are just waiting for some areas to have civil unrest and/or riots to occur; then its game on.
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 09, 2020, 11:22:23 PM
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Post by: hvybarrels on April 09, 2020, 11:34:13 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 10, 2020, 12:50:01 AM
Maybe more this ....
(https://i.imgur.com/JVAmj2y.png?1)
Post by: Rocky on April 10, 2020, 02:33:37 PM
Post by: aieahound on April 10, 2020, 06:11:19 PM
Today 23 new cases as of yesterday. :(
https://hawaiicovid19.com/
I’m convinced they go up nearing weekends due to free drive through weekend testing and results taking about a week to come back.
Who knows how much of this is out there!
Stay safe Rock....and everyone else.
Especially you OF cause you old and your dog is batshit crazy. :D (probably same age as me. OF, not his dog.)
Post by: Rocky on April 11, 2020, 08:46:33 AM
That’s yesterday’s stats.Yo Dog :wave:
Today 23 new cases as of yesterday. :(
https://hawaiicovid19.com/
I’m convinced they go up nearing weekends due to free drive through weekend testing and results taking about a week to come back.
Who knows how much of this is out there!
Stay safe Rock....and everyone else.
Especially you OF cause you old and your dog is batshit crazy. :D (probably same age as me. OF, not his dog.)
I get these stats sent to me and I am subject to their timeline, too lazy to look them up myself. :sleeping:
AND FOR CRIPES SAKE, WASH YOUR HANDS ! :shake: :shake: :shake:
:shaka:
Post by: Rocky on April 11, 2020, 05:36:46 PM
Post by: Rocky on April 12, 2020, 03:10:52 PM
Post by: Rocky on April 13, 2020, 07:46:02 PM
updated
Post by: Rocky on April 15, 2020, 05:39:35 PM
Post by: Rocky on April 18, 2020, 08:24:10 AM
Post by: oldfart on April 18, 2020, 10:05:04 AM
By HNN Staff | April 17, 2020 at 1:37 PM HST - Updated April 17 at 5:30 PM
HONOLULU, Hawaii (HawaiiNewsNow) - The governor is now mandating that everyone wear a face mask or covering while in essential businesses — or while waiting to get inside.
The requirement was included in an emergency supplemental proclamation issued Friday and takes effect immediately. But it wasn’t clear how — or when — it would be enforced.
The face mask requirement applies to both employees and customers in essential businesses.
===============
I'm going to the bank now.
(https://i.postimg.cc/L6PTYhZQ/shemaugh.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D82sRv61)
Post by: Rocky on April 18, 2020, 02:22:43 PM
Post by: oldfart on April 20, 2020, 10:00:45 AM
A random observation.....
Presumably, since more people are home nowadays, I seem to notice more people out walking their dogs.
Jus' sayin'
Post by: Rocky on April 20, 2020, 10:50:57 AM
Happier pets!(http://i.imgur.com/crjjeD2.jpg) (https://imgur.com/crjjeD2)
A random observation.....
Presumably, since more people are home nowadays, I seem to notice more people out walking their dogs.
Jus' sayin'
Post by: oldfart on April 20, 2020, 01:02:07 PM
Post by: Rocky on April 20, 2020, 03:04:36 PM
Post by: drck1000 on April 20, 2020, 03:17:58 PM
Personally, I think the resurgence will happen quite a bit in the US. Just hopefully by then the healthcare system is shored up (more people, equipment, procedures, etc), treatments are better known or developed, other screening measures in place, etc to limit the effects.
Post by: groveler on April 20, 2020, 06:05:07 PM
I read somewhere that Hawaii's trend for hospitalization shows that we've reached the peak ahead of the projections. Many starts are still trending upward in terms of hospitalizations though. Also something about there's a "next wave" expected from Europe to impact the US. The "second wave" has already happened in Hokkaido and when rules on migrant workers were relaxed in Singapore. Hopefully the healthcare systems in those area are now more robust and are better able to handle the resurgence.I experienced pneumonia when I was in the military.
Personally, I think the resurgence will happen quite a bit in the US. Just hopefully by then the healthcare system is shored up (more people, equipment, procedures, etc), treatments are better known or developed, other screening measures in place, etc to limit the effects.
Scary stuff. I was hospitalized next to the ICU where people
died. I heard it all day long, for way too many days.
Watching that when you are 18 makes an impression.
This new stuff doesn't scare me.
What scares me this is the price our kids and grand kids
will pay for Democrat stupidity.
Post by: macsak on April 20, 2020, 07:35:57 PM
I read somewhere that Hawaii's trend for hospitalization shows that we've reached the peak ahead of the projections. Many starts are still trending upward in terms of hospitalizations though. Also something about there's a "next wave" expected from Europe to impact the US. The "second wave" has already happened in Hokkaido and when rules on migrant workers were relaxed in Singapore. Hopefully the healthcare systems in those area are now more robust and are better able to handle the resurgence.
Personally, I think the resurgence will happen quite a bit in the US. Just hopefully by then the healthcare system is shored up (more people, equipment, procedures, etc), treatments are better known or developed, other screening measures in place, etc to limit the effects.
you can check out Hawaii and the other "starts" here
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/hawaii
they also predict a date when the state can start easing restrictions
the hospitals here are using this data, and I am pretty sure this is what the state govt is using too...
Post by: drck1000 on April 20, 2020, 07:38:42 PM
you can check out Hawaii and the other "starts" hereSharts...
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/hawaii
they also predict a date when the state can start easing restrictions
the hospitals here are using this data, and I am pretty sure this is what the state govt is using too...
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 20, 2020, 07:39:21 PM
Didn't we already give federal aid to all the states declaring national emergencies? Now they want us to give them money for ENDING the emergency?
Really?
Post by: macsak on April 20, 2020, 07:45:25 PM
States like NY are already standing up their list of excuses for why they can't open the stores there. Cuomo wants the Feds (Trump) to provide personnel and equipment support.
Didn't we already give federal aid to all the states declaring national emergencies? Now they want us to give them money for ENDING the emergency?
Really?
they asking for money for testing, which is part of the criteria to open up
Post by: ren on April 20, 2020, 07:48:25 PM
you can check out Hawaii and the other "starts" here
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/hawaii
they also predict a date when the state can start easing restrictions
the hospitals here are using this data, and I am pretty sure this is what the state govt is using too...
they have been saying that the IHME model is flawed about a week ago
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 20, 2020, 07:50:43 PM
they asking for money for testing, which is part of the criteria to open up
If only that was the extent of what they are asking for ...
Quote
“I get that we have to fund airlines, small businesses—Yeah, I agree 100%,
but you also have to fund state governments,” Cuomo said in his press
conference on Saturday.
When you fund a state government, you’re funding small business, hospitals,
and schools anyway, he added. “If you want [states] to reopen, we need funding.”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/04/18/cuomo-if-you-want-states-to-reopen-we-need-funding/#28b749706e5e
Post by: pj_benn on April 20, 2020, 08:39:27 PM
I experienced pneumonia when I was in the military.a complication of covid19 is severe double pneumonia. Just a heads up if by new stuff not scaring you you are talking about covid19
Scary stuff. I was hospitalized next to the ICU where people
died. I heard it all day long, for way too many days.
Watching that when you are 18 makes an impression.
This new stuff doesn't scare me.
What scares me this is the price our kids and grand kids
will pay for Democrat stupidity.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 21, 2020, 04:14:28 PM
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As COVID-19 has spread, we have seen an increase in people shopping online.
To serve our customers while also helping to ensure the safety of our associates,
we have changed our logistics, transportation, supply chain, purchasing, and third-
party seller processes to prioritize stocking and delivering items that are a higher
priority for our customers. This has resulted in some of our delivery promises being
longer than usual. We're also hiring over 100,000 positions across the U.S. to enable
us to provide this vital service to people everywhere, especially to those, like the
elderly, who are most vulnerable.
I've had to cancel a pump for my washing machine and order from another site. Amazon had that order for 2 weeks, had not shipped it yet. It was showing May 15-30 for estimated delivery.
Same for a product I needed to fix a gasket.
I guess popping the heat spreader off the top of my Intel CPU and replacing the exhaust hose on a portable AC unit are higher priority than clean clothes and a working vehicle.
Each order that wasn't delayed took less than a week to arrive and only 1-2 days to ship out.
:wtf:
I'm not sure they have their priorities straight.
I placed the new order for the washer pump on the 19th late at night. It shipped today and should arrive by Saturday, Apr 25th.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 21, 2020, 04:24:32 PM
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The U.S. Food and Drug Administration made a big revelation on Tuesday (April 21),
announcing it has authorized the first at-home coronavirus diagnostic test that allows
individuals to collect and mail their samples to a laboratory.
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Reuters reported that the company conducts as many as 65,000 tests per day and is
able to offer results within two to four days.
https://news.iheart.com/featured/coronavirus/content/2020-04-21-fda-authorizes-first-at-home-coronavirus-sample-collection-kit/?mid=385200&rid=98839342&sc=email&pname=newsletter&cid=NATIONAL&keyid=National%20iHeart%20Daily%20NewsTalk&campid=headline1_readmore
Ancestry.com was not available for comment. :rofl:
Post by: Inspector on April 21, 2020, 05:20:34 PM
Amazon's policy:We had to order bedding and some items related to my wife’s disability and they all arrived in less than a week. In most cases 3-4 days. However, I ordered a new phone case on the 19th and it is due to arrive on May 11. :wtf: I know its not a big deal, but still. Three weeks is ridiculous for something supposedly in stock. Also, I ordered a book on the 10th and it is supposed to arrive by May 7. It’s just a book. Again, almost a month for something supposedly in stock. In the case of the book it was shipped right away. It is the PO that is taking so long to deliver. My phone case has not shipped yet.
I've had to cancel a pump for my washing machine and order from another site. Amazon had that order for 2 weeks, had not shipped it yet. It was showing May 15-30 for estimated delivery.
Same for a product I needed to fix a gasket.
I guess popping the heat spreader off the top of my Intel CPU and replacing the exhaust hose on a portable AC unit are higher priority than clean clothes and a working vehicle.
Each order that wasn't delayed took less than a week to arrive and only 1-2 days to ship out.
:wtf:
I'm not sure they have their priorities straight.
I placed the new order for the washer pump on the 19th late at night. It shipped today and should arrive by Saturday, Apr 25th.
I really want this book so I’ll wait for it. But I’m thinking of cancelling the phone case. This lockdown will be over before it arrives.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 21, 2020, 05:23:25 PM
We had to order bedding and some items related to my wife’s disability and they all arrived in less than a week. In most cases 3-4 days. However, I ordered a new phone case on the 19th and it is due to arrive on May 11. :wtf: I know its not a big deal, but still. Three weeks is ridiculous for something supposedly in stock. Also, I ordered a book on the 10th and it is supposed to arrive by May 7. It’s just a book. Again, almost a month for something supposedly in stock. In the case of the book it was shipped right away. It is the PO that is taking so long to deliver. My phone case has not shipped yet.
I really want this book so I’ll wait for it. But I’m thinking of cancelling the phone case. This lockdown will be over before it arrives.
Yeah. Some orders I placed to see if they would ship sooner than later -- to save a couple of bucks with Prime shipping.
After they took way too long and still didn't ship, I went elsewhere.
I understand their prioritization policy, but I don't think they're doing it right. :wacko:
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 21, 2020, 09:02:39 PM
you can check out Hawaii and the other "starts" hereSo whos gonna take 1 for the team and give a reach around to the IT guy to change hawaii to open now?
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/hawaii
they also predict a date when the state can start easing restrictions
the hospitals here are using this data, and I am pretty sure this is what the state govt is using too...
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Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 21, 2020, 09:06:01 PM
So whos gonna take 1 for the team and give a reach around to the IT guy to change hawaii to open now?
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All you need is Ige's Twitter password. I bet he's got it written down in a dozen places now! :rofl:
Post by: drck1000 on April 21, 2020, 10:11:11 PM
All you need is Ige's Twitter password. I bet he's got it written down in a dozen places now! :rofl:12345
Post by: macsak on April 22, 2020, 05:18:55 AM
12345
how did you know my password!?!
Post by: Inspector on April 22, 2020, 05:24:01 AM
how did you know my password!?!When did you change it from “heads”??????
Post by: drck1000 on April 22, 2020, 07:52:43 AM
how did you know my password!?!Too easy. . .
When did you change it from “heads”??????Dammit. . . now I'm gonna have to change mine from "clips"
:rofl:
Post by: Rocky on April 22, 2020, 02:32:14 PM
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 21, 2020
Total cases (new): 586 (2)
Hawai’i County: 64 (0)
Honolulu County: 385 (0)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 110 (2)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 6 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 56 (1)
Hawaii deaths: 12 (2)
Recovered: 437 (14)
Confirmed Cases by Age Group: (new)
0-19: 22 (0) - none were hospitalized (0 new)
20-39: 186 (0) - 6 were hospitalized (0 new)
40-59: 192 (0) - 15 were hospitalized (0 new)
60+: 130 (0) - 35 were hospitalized (0 new)
We have had 2 deaths in the past 24 hours - 2 men over the age of 65 - and only 2 new cases, both from Maui (see table). As of April 20, 25,579 people have been tested.
Lockdown is extended until May 31.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 20, 2020
Total cases (new): 584 (4)
Hawai’i County: 64 (2)
Honolulu County: 385 (0)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 108 (2)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 6 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 55 (3)
Hawaii deaths: 10 (0)
Recovered: 423 (9)
Confirmed Cases by Age Group: (new)
0-19: 22 (0) - none were hospitalized (0 new)
20-39: 185 (1) - 6 were hospitalized (0 new)
40-59: 193 (1) - 14 were hospitalized (1 new)
60+: 129 (0) - 35 were hospitalized (2 new)
We have had no deaths in the past 24 hours - and only 4 new cases, 3 of which have been hospitalized (see table).
As of April 19, 24,971 people have been tested.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 19, 2020
Total cases (new): 580 (6)
Hawai’i County: 62 (1)
Honolulu County: 385 (3)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 106 (2)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 6 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 52 (1)
Hawaii deaths: 10 (1)
Recovered: 414 (4)
Confirmed Cases by Age Group: (new)
0-19: 22 (0) - none were hospitalized (0 new)
20-39: 184 (4) - 6 were hospitalized (0 new)
40-59: 192 (3) - 13 were hospitalized (0 new)
60+: 130 (0) - 33 were hospitalized (1 new)
We have had another death in the past 24 hours - but only 6 new cases, 1 of which has been hospitalized (see table). We have 4 deaths in Maui County and 6 deaths on Oahu. As of April 18, 24,452 people have been tested.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 18, 2020
Total cases (new): 574 (21)
Hawai’i County: 61 (17)
Honolulu County: 382 (2)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 104 (2)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 6 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 51 (3)
Hawaii deaths: 9 (0)
Recovered: 410 (20)
Confirmed Cases by Age Group: (new)
0-19: 22 (1) - none were hospitalized (0 new)
20-39: 180 (11) - 6 were hospitalized (1 new)
40-59: 189 (2) - 13 were hospitalized (1 new)
60+: 130 (4) - 32 were hospitalized (2 new)
While there have been no new deaths, there have been new hospitalizations. (see table).
As of April 17, 23,617 people have been tested.
The spike in cases on the Big Island is likely tied to a cluster of cases the DOH previously investigated involving two McDonald’s restaurants in Kona. The DOH previously said that 14 cases were tied to those restaurants. On Saturday, that number rose to 29, including 17 employees and 12 of their household members, according to a press release.
The governor has issued a moratorium yesterday on evictions, including for failure to pay rent, as Hawaii grapples with the colossal economic fallout of the COVID-19 shutdown. Violators of the order face a misdemeanor charge, punishable by up to a year in jail or $5,000 fine.
All schools are closed until the fall semester - any summer school sessions will be online.
Also Friday, the governor issued new rules that clarify that all beaches are closed, and that lounging or sunbathing on the sand is not allowed. People can still cross beaches to get to the ocean. The state also said that no more than two people or a single family are allowed on recreational boats, and group hiking is not allowed.
Social distancing and self-isolation are both helping. Wearing a mask in public is mandatory in the State of Hawaii - unless you are going into a bank or using an ATM. Includes public transportation riders.
The statistics show we will remain on lockdown through April 30.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 17, 2020
Total cases (new): 553 (12)
Hawai’i County: 44 (3)
Honolulu County: 380 (7)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 102(7)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 6 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 48 (3)
Hawaii deaths: 9 (0)
Recovered: 390 (16)
Confirmed Cases by Age Group: (new)
0-19: 21 (1) - none were hospitalized (0 new)
20-39: 169 (1) - 6 were hospitalized (1 new)
40-59: 189 (4) - 12 were hospitalized (1 new)
60+: 126(3) - 30 were hospitalized (1 new)
While we have had no new deaths, 3 addiitonal people have been hospitalized.
We have tested 22,638 people as of 04/16/20.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 16, 2020
Total cases (new): 541 (11)
Hawai’i County: 41 (0)
Honolulu County: 373 (4)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 95 (3)
Pending: 5 (4)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 6 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 45 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 9 (0)
Recovered: 374 (15)
Confirmed Cases by Age Group: (new)
0-19: 20 (1) - none were hospitalized (0 new)
20-39: 168 (2) - 5 were hospitalized (0 new)
40-59: 185 (6) - 11 were hospitalized (0 new)
60+: 123(2) - 29 were hospitalized (0 new)
No new deaths. 21,985 people have been tested as of 04/15/20.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 15, 2020
Total cases (new): 530 (13)
Hawai’i County: 41 (0)
Honolulu County: 369 (11)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 92 (4)
Pending: 1 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 6 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 45 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 9 (0)
Recovered: 359 (26)
Confirmed Cases by Age Group: (new)
0-19: 19 (0) - none were hospitalized (0 new)
20-39: 166 (3) - 5 were hospitalized (0 new)
40-59: 179 (6) - 11 were hospitalized (0 new)
60+: 121(4) - 29 were hospitalized (0 new)
No new deaths. 20,170 people have been tested as of 04/14/20. Nearly 360 non-hospitalized patients — almost 70% of cases documented by the Department of Health — have been “released from isolation” to date, according to the department.
Those who qualify to be released from isolation are considered to have recovered if at least seven days have passed since their symptoms began. Approximately 170 active cases of the coronavirus remain.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 14, 2020
Total cases (new): 517 (13)
Hawai’i County: 41 (1)
Honolulu County: 358 (6)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 88 (2)
Pending: 3 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 6 (4)
Required Hospitalization: 45 (1)
Hawaii deaths: 9 (0)
Recovered: 333 (18)
Confirmed Cases by Age Group: (new)
0-19: 19 (1)- none hospitalized
20-39: 163 - (eight) 5 hospitalized
40-59: 173 - (5) 11 hospitalized
60+: 117 - (3) 29 hospitalized
One new hospitalization in the over 60 category. No new deaths.
19,286 people have been tested at this time.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 13, 2020
Total cases (new): 504 (5)
Hawai’i County: 40 (1)
Honolulu County: 352 (2)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 86 (2)
Pending: 3 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 2 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 44 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 9 (0)
Recovered: 315 (5)
Confirmed Cases by Age Group: (new)
0-19: 18 (0)- none hospitalized
20-39: 155 - (0) 5 hospitalized
40-59: 168 - (13) 11 hospitalized
60+: 114 - (0) 28 hospitalized
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 12, 2020
Total cases (new): 499 (13)
Hawai’i County: 39 (5)
Honolulu County: 350 (2)
Kaua’i County: 21 (2)
Maui County: 84 (4)
Pending: 3 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 2 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 44 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 9 (1)
Recovered: 310 (10)
Confirmed Cases by Age Group: (new)
0-19: 18 (0)- none hospitalized
20-39: 155 - (6) 5 hospitalized
40-59: 155 - (19) 11 hospitalized
60+: 114 - (5) 28 hospitalized
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 11, 2020
Total cases (new): 486 (21)
Hawai’i County: 34 (3)
Honolulu County: 348 (5)
Kaua’i County: 19 (0)
Maui County: 80 (14)
Pending: 3 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 2 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 44 (1)
Hawaii deaths: 8(0)
Recovered: 300(16)
Confirmed Cases by Age Group: (new)
0-19: 18 (1)- none hospitalized
20-39: 149 - (5) 5 hospitalized
40-59: 149 - (17) 11 hospitalized
60+: 109 - (11) 28 hospitalized
The DOH has been monitoring two clusters at the Maui Memorial Medical Center, where a patient yesterday tested positive for the virus. Eighteen staff have also tested positive at the hospital, where the virus has been identified in a pediatrics ward and another for patients with chronic conditions. DOH Director Bruce Anderson said Friday that the department is also investigating possible clusters in a church group and among members of a motorcycle club.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 10, 2020
Total cases (new): 465 (23)
Hawai’i County: 31 (3)
Honolulu County: 343 (9)
Kaua’i County: 19 (0)
Maui County: 66 (9)
Pending: 4 (1)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 2 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 43 (1)
Hawaii deaths: 8(2)
Recovered: 284(33)
Confirmed Cases by Age Group: (new)
0-19: 17 (1)- none hospitalized
20-39: 144 - (7) 5 hospitalized
40-59: 149 - (EIGHT) 11 hospitalized
60+: 98 - (6) 27 hospitalized
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 9, 2020
Total cases (new): 442 (7)
Hawai’i County: 28 (2)
Honolulu County: 334 (6)
Kaua’i County: 18 (0)
Maui County: 57 (3)
Pending: 3 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 2 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 42 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 6(1)
Recovered: 251(138)
Confirmed Cases by Age Group:
0-19: 16 - none hospitalized
20-39: 137 - 5 hospitalized
40-59: 149 - 11 hospitalized
60+: 98 - 26 hospitalized
As of April 7, 15,316 cases have tested negative, 428 tested positive and 7 are still pending.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 8, 2020
Total cases (new): 435 (25)
Hawai’i County: 26 (3)
Honolulu County: 328 (16)
Kaua’i County: 18 (0)
Maui County: 54 (6)
Pending: 7 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 2 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 42 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 5(0)*
Recovered: 113 (24)
Four of the deaths have occurred on Oahu and two on Maui.
* (1 additional death is NOT reflected in today's report but will be reflected tomorrow.)
Confirmed Cases by Age Group:
0-19: 16 - none hospitalized
20-39: 133 - 5 hospitalized
40-59: 145 - 11 hospitalized
60+: 99 - 26 hospitalized
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 7, 2020
Total cases (new): 410 (23)
Hawai’i County: 23 (0)
Honolulu County: 312 (20)
Kaua’i County: 18 (1)
Maui County: 48 (4)
Pending: 7 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 2 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 42 (16)
Hawaii deaths: 5(0) Recovered: 113 (24)
The state has conducted 15,149 COVID-19 tests to date. Most of those who have been hospitalized in Hawaii for the coronavirus are over the age of 60. As of Tuesday, the largest COVID-19 patient cohort were people between 40 and 59 years old. Approximately 148 people were in that age category. About 128 people were between 20 and 39 years old, but only about 4% of them required hospitalization. There have been 119 people over the age of 60 diagnosed with COVID-19, 26 of whom have required hospitalization. The University of Hawaii would like everyone to fill out surveys daily regarding symptoms to try to help stop the spread of Covid-19. Only 6 questions: https://www.alohatrace.org/
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 5, 2020
Total cases (new): 371 (20)
Hawai’i County: 22 (0)
Honolulu County: 281 (15)
Kaua’i County: 16 (1)
Maui County: 43 (5)
Pending: 7 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 2 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 21 (2)
Hawaii deaths: 4 (0)
Recovered: 85 (3)
On Saturday, officials released a breakdown of the cases by ages of the patients. Their graphic — which only has data up until April 3 — showed there were 13 cases of those ages 0-19 112 cases of those ages 20-39 120 cases of those ages 40-50 87 cases of those 60 and up - 11 of those required hospitalization, officials said. This is prior to the 52 cases reported over the weekend.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 4, 2020
Total cases (new): 351 (32)
Hawai’i County: 22 (2)
Honolulu County: 266 (29)
Kaua’i County: 15 (2)
Maui County: 38 (2)
Pending: 8 (-3)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 2 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 19 (1)
Hawaii deaths: 3 (0)
Recovered: 82 (4)
A fourth death was reported on 4/4/2020 in a hospitalized individual on Oahu and will be included in tomorrow’s counts. He was a 65 year old Oahu resident from the east side. Positive cases includes presumptive and confirmed cases, data are preliminary and subject to change; Of the total cases to date, 184 have been related to travel, 20 have shown evidence of community spread and the source of 147 cases is still unknown. Kauai police arrested a third man from the mainland Friday for violating the travel quarantine. The man refused to produce evidence that he had lodging on Kauai, according to a press release. Gov. David Ige said Friday that anyone coming into the state without accommodations or
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 3, 2020
Total cases (new): 319 (34)
Hawai’i County: 20 (2)
Honolulu County: 237 (31)
Kaua’i County: 13 (1)
Maui County: 36 (9)
Molokai 1 (Islands first case)
Pending: 11 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 2 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 18 (3)
Hawaii deaths: 3 (1)
Recovered: 78 (6
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 2, 2020
Total cases (new): 285 (27)
Hawai’i County: 18 (0)
Honolulu County: 206 (24)
Kaua’i County: 12 (0)
Maui County: 27 (1)
Pending: 20 (2)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 2 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 15 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 2 (1)
Recovered: 72 (3)
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 1, 2020
Total cases (new): 258 (34)
Hawai’i County: 18 (3)
Honolulu County: 182 (25)
Kaua’i County: 12 (0)
Maui County: 26 (1)
Pending: 18 (5)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 2 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 15 (2)
Hawaii deaths: 1 (0)
Recovered: 69 (11)
Among the latest confirmed infections are a Queen’s Health Systems employee and a U.S. Postal Service worker.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on March 30, 2020
Total cases (new): 204 (29)
Hawai’i County: 15 (3)
Honolulu County: 139 (16)
Kaua’i County: 12 (0)
Maui County: 25 (5)
Pending: 20 (7)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 2 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 12 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 0 (0)
The cases bring the state’s total to 204, or more than double what Hawaii was reporting just five days ago.
The DOH said 55 (6 new) people have been released from isolation.
Regarding how long we need to stay in isolation, the CDC recommends isolation should be maintained until at least 3 days (72 hours) after resolution of fever and myalgia without the use of antipyretics OR at least 7 days have passed since symptom onset, whichever is longer.
A Honolulu firefighter and a police officer have tested positive for coronavirus, authorities said Saturday.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on March 29, 2020
Total cases (new): 175 (24)
Hawai’i County: 12 (2)
Honolulu County: 123 (15)
Kaua’i County: 12 (1)
Maui County: 20 (4)
Pending: 6 (2)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 2 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 12 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 0 (0)
The DOH said 49 people have also been released from isolation.
The total number of statewide tests to date done via private, state and military channels is roughly 8,107, according to Janice Okubo, spokeswoman for the DOH.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00 noon on March 28, 2020
Total (new) 151 (29)
Hawaii 10 (3)
Oahu 108 (19)
Kauai 11 (6)
Maui 16 (0)
Non-Hawaii Residents 14 (3)
Required Hospitalization 12 (4)
Deaths 0 (0)
Pending 4 (1)
Hawaii residents diagnosed outside of Hawaii 2 (0)
one of them is a minor, 24 others are Hawaii residents, and three are non-residents. Health officials told a legislative committee on Friday that there has been little evidence of community spread and that most cases have been travel related. .
Cumulative totals as of 12:00 noon on March 27, 2020
Total (new) 120 (14)
By Residence
Hawaii 7 (2)
Honolulu 87 (10)
Kauai 5 (0)
Maui 16 (2)
Non-Hawaii Residents 14 (3)
Required Hospitalization 8 (0)
Deaths 0 (0)
Pending 3 (0)
Hawaii residents diagnosed outside of Hawaii 2 (0)
Cumulative totals as of 12:00 noon on March 26, 2020.
Total (new) 106 (11)
Oahu: 77 (8 new)
Maui: 14 (1 new)
Big Island: 5
Kauai: 5
Unknown: 3
Diagnosed out of state: 2 (2 new)
Deaths 0
11 new coronavirus cases announced Thursday don’t have a link to recent travel, indicating a widening transmission (community transmission) of the virus in the community.
12:00 noon on March 25, 2020
Total (New) 95 (6) (5 Hawai‘i residents, 1 visitor)
Honolulu (4 new cases, total of 68)
Hawai‘i (0 new cases, total of 5)
Maui (1 new case, total of 13)
Kaua‘i (1 new case, total of 5)
Hospitalized (1 current + 3 discharged)
Deaths - 0
Risk Factors (2 new travel related cases, 59 total)
95 total cases since 2/28/20
All cases have a travel history or exposure to someone who traveled. We have not see any community transmission so far.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00 noon on March 24, 2020
Total (new) 90 (14)
Hawaii 2 (0)
Honolulu 58 (10)
Kauai 1 (0)
Maui 9 (0)
Non-Hawaii Residents 14 (3)
Pending 6 (1)
Required Hospitalization 6 (2)
Deaths 1 (1) (Deleted)
Cumulative totals as of 12:00 noon on March 23, 2020
Total (new) 77 (21)
County
Hawaii 5 (2)
Honolulu 53 (12)
Kauai 3 (0)
Maui 11 (2)
Pending 5 (5)
Required Hospitalization 4 (1)
Deaths 0 (0)
*includes presumptive and confirmed cases, and Hawaii and non-Hawaii residents; note that CDC provides case counts according to states of residence.
March 22, 2020 at 12:00 p.m. HST
Total (new) 56 ( 8 )
City & County of Honolulu 41
County of Maui 9
County of Kaua‘i 3
County of Hawai‘i 3
Governor’s Order for Self-Quarantine of All Travelers to Hawai‘i
COVID-19 Positive* Cases
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on March 21, 2020
Total (new) 48 (11)
County
Hawaii 3 (2)
Honolulu 35 (7)
Kauai 3 (0)
Maui 7 (2)
Hospitalized 3 (1)
Deaths 0 (0)
Post by: RSN172 on April 22, 2020, 05:21:55 PM
12345That's a weak password. You should always use a min of 8. Change it to 12345678.
how did you know my password!?!
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 22, 2020, 05:24:47 PM
That's a weak password. You should always use a min of 8. Change it to 12345678.
Too long. He'll never be able to remember that! :wave:
Post by: macsak on April 22, 2020, 07:33:43 PM
Too long. He'll never be able to remember that! :wave:
heads1234
Post by: Heavies on April 22, 2020, 08:07:01 PM
Post by: drck1000 on April 22, 2020, 08:24:45 PM
https://youtu.be/a6iW-8xPw3kmacsak’s going from suck, to blow
Post by: Rocky on April 23, 2020, 05:16:23 PM
If this bores you, tell me to stop. :D ;)
Today's DOH update on Coronavirus in Hawaii
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 22, 2020
Total cases (new): 592 (6)
Hawai’i County: 67 (3)
Honolulu County: 388 (3)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 110 (0)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 6 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 63 (7)
Hawaii deaths: 12 (0)
Recovered: 444 (7)
Confirmed Cases by Age Group: (new)
0-19: 23 (1) - none were hospitalized (0 new)
20-39: 188 (2) - 6 were hospitalized (0 new)
40-59: 194 (2) - 15 were hospitalized (0 new)
60+: 124 (0) - 42 were hospitalized (7 new)
We have had 0 deaths in the past 24 hours - but we have 6 new cases - 3 on Oahu and 3 on the Big Island (see table). As of April 21, the number of
Post by: macsak on April 23, 2020, 06:21:13 PM
macsak’s going from suck, to blow
heads
Post by: drck1000 on April 23, 2020, 06:23:47 PM
Starting NEW thread as CV19 history exceeds character limit, leaving old for reference.Stop, just stop...
If this bores you, tell me to stop. :D ;)
Nah, nah. Jk. I think 1 or maybe 2 days prior is helpful to see changes. The 5+ day history was wearing out my scrolling capabilities. :rofl:
Post by: GlockNewb on April 24, 2020, 07:53:52 AM
https://quillette.com/2020/04/23/covid-19-superspreader-events-in-28-countries-critical-patterns-and-lessons/
Post by: Kuleana on April 24, 2020, 08:24:17 AM
Came across this in my Twitter feeds...one man’s data set and observation.
https://quillette.com/2020/04/23/covid-19-superspreader-events-in-28-countries-critical-patterns-and-lessons/
Though not a medical researcher, a very impressive effort on what data he was able to collect and analyze. If I read correctly, it provides further evidence of what we intuitively expected all along. The closer and longer you are in proximity to an infected person with Covid-19, the higher chance of transmission from large droplets when that person coughs, sneezes, breaths too hard, laughs, or talks too loud.
What we need now is a thorough demographic, internal diagnostic, and state of health analysis from all those who have contracted Covid-19 to further pinpoint what kind of people are more susceptible to that illness. This information would prove most strategic in determining the personal protection protocols for people, especially those most at-risk, when returning to work.
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 24, 2020, 09:06:01 AM
Post by: GlockNewb on April 24, 2020, 09:19:56 AM
Can anyone verify if the vid of the woman placing the dry ice in front of an air vent in a market is legit? The site that I get some info from is 70% accurate. Can't find info on anything else. But then again, I'm sure someone is trying to scrub the info.
First time seeing this, so to what end was the woman taking action? COVID mitigation? Dry ice = carbon dioxide....so mass suffocation?
Post by: macsak on April 24, 2020, 10:16:34 AM
Can anyone verify if the vid of the woman placing the dry ice in front of an air vent in a market is legit? The site that I get some info from is 70% accurate. Can't find info on anything else. But then again, I'm sure someone is trying to scrub the info.
that much?
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 24, 2020, 10:36:34 AM
First time seeing this, so to what end was the woman taking action? COVID mitigation? Dry ice = carbon dioxide....so mass suffocation?
She was spreading the virus which was infused in dry ice. She put the block in front of a vent that goes into the market. She works at the Wuhan lab as a doctor there. She then gets on a train after.
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 24, 2020, 10:37:38 AM
that much?
More acccurate than fact checking sites. I remember about 5 years ago, I googled something about Hawaiian history and on 3 occasions, fact check was wrong. Or maybe they're correct and Hawaii history books are wrong. InB4Kulena.
Post by: macsak on April 24, 2020, 11:05:09 AM
She was spreading the virus which was infused in dry ice. She put the block in front of a vent that goes into the market. She works at the Wuhan lab as a doctor there. She then gets on a train after.
was the earth flat or round?
was it building #7?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 24, 2020, 11:46:16 AM
A block of dry ice has a surface temp of -109.3°F and turns into a gas as it returns to ambient temperature. No liquid to ruin contents or container, and the weight of the item gets lighter over time.
I've had Dungeness Crab packaged in Seattle for my trip back to Hawaii. They used dry ice. I was told it would keep for up to 48 hours.
I think it's reasonable to assume a "wet market" might offer the same packaging for customers shipping their purchases or not returning home for hours. Dry ice at that market? Meh ???
Post by: drck1000 on April 24, 2020, 12:19:46 PM
Heard report about test/study with nicotine patches effectiveness in reducing, or even blocking infection from CV19. I think it’s starting in France. It’s based on observations on numbers of smokers vs non-smokers in infected as well as hospitalizations.
And Trump didn’t recommend injecting disinfectant directly. MSM again :facepalm:
Post by: GlockNewb on April 24, 2020, 12:25:34 PM
She was spreading the virus which was infused in dry ice. She put the block in front of a vent that goes into the market. She works at the Wuhan lab as a doctor there. She then gets on a train after.
Bio-terrorism...considering how Info-Wars-y MSM is now, not taking anything lightly anymore.
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 24, 2020, 12:26:29 PM
Smokers, you’re safe :thumbsup:
Heard report about test/study with nicotine patches effectiveness in reducing, or even blocking infection from CV19. I think it’s starting in France. It’s based on observations on numbers of smokers vs non-smokers in infected as well as hospitalizations.
And Trump didn’t recommend injecting disinfectant directly. MSM again :facepalm:
He did look directly at the eclipse. So he don't let no body tell him what to do.
Post by: Rocky on April 24, 2020, 12:27:28 PM
And Trump didn’t recommend injecting disinfectant directly. MSM again :facepalm:Correct !
He said you should shove a UV lamp up your . . . :shake:
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 24, 2020, 12:27:46 PM
was the earth flat or round?
was it building #7?
It was the moon landing hoax.
Post by: drck1000 on April 24, 2020, 12:28:39 PM
Correct !Dark hole?
He said you should shove a UV lamp up your . . . :shake:
You sick puppy 😝
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 24, 2020, 12:29:30 PM
Dry ice is used very often to keep fresh food fresh as it makes a great refrigerant.
A block of dry ice has a surface temp of -109.3°F and turns into a gas as it returns to ambient temperature. No liquid to ruin contents or container, and the weight of the item gets lighter over time.
I've had Dungeness Crab packaged in Seattle for my trip back to Hawaii. They used dry ice. I was told it would keep for up to 48 hours.
I think it's reasonable to assume a "wet market" might offer the same packaging for customers shipping their purchases or not returning home for hours. Dry ice at that market? Meh ???
It;s a combo, why would a Dr. from the Wuhan Biolab be putting what looks to be a block of dry ice in front of an air intake vent? Then quickly get on a train? Coincidences added up tell what happens.
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 24, 2020, 12:30:05 PM
Correct !
He said you should shove a UV lamp up your . . . :shake:
In that case, I know some guys who would be CV free for years now.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 24, 2020, 12:32:31 PM
It;s a combo, why would a Dr. from the Wuhan Biolab be putting what looks to be a block of dry ice in front of an air intake vent? Then quickly get on a train? Coincidences added up tell what happens.
Can you identify her as a doctor 100%? White coats are used in markets, too.
Is there a better place for dry ice to circulate and make cold air than on a vent?
"Quickly"? As compared to how she usually has to hurry to catch the train? :rofl:
Post by: drck1000 on April 24, 2020, 12:35:56 PM
Can you identify her as a doctor 100%? White coats are used in markets, too.How dare you question CMO and his “intel”?
Is there a better place for dry ice to circulate and make cold air than on a vent?
"Quickly"? As compared to how she usually has to hurry to catch the train? :rofl:
He has spoken...
:rofl:
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 24, 2020, 12:37:16 PM
How dare you question CMO and his “intel”?
He has spoken...
:rofl:
The tin foil hat has been placed on my head. I have spoken.
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 24, 2020, 12:40:50 PM
Can you identify her as a doctor 100%? White coats are used in markets, too.
Is there a better place for dry ice to circulate and make cold air than on a vent?
"Quickly"? As compared to how she usually has to hurry to catch the train? :rofl:
She was wearing a black coat actually, but I guess vid traces her from leaving the lab to the market. Then placing the object by the intake for X reason.
The reason for placing the object near the vent is to release CV and have it circulate in the market. It may not have been dry ice, but looks like it. Why else would a person place it near an intake vent? Is this common practice at markets in Wuhan? No it's not.
I'm trying to find the vid and story, but google has erased it. But the images are not super clear either. Same quality like when Kim Jongs brother was injected.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 24, 2020, 12:44:37 PM
She was wearing a black coat actually, but I guess vid traces her from leaving the lab to the market. Then placing the object by the intake for X reason.
The reason for placing the object near the vent is to release CV and have it circulate in the market. It may not have been dry ice, but looks like it. Why else would a person place it near an intake vent? Is this common practice at markets in Wuhan? No it's not.
I'm trying to find the vid and story, but google has erased it. But the images are not super clear either. Same quality like when Kim Jongs brother was injected.
I'm shocked ....
Shocked that it took this long for someone to edit together this kind of video to feed the crazies of the world! :rofl:
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 24, 2020, 12:56:56 PM
I'm shocked ....
Shocked that it took this long for someone to edit together this kind of video to feed the crazies of the world! :rofl:
Do not under estimate the powers of the tin foil hat.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 24, 2020, 01:02:23 PM
Do not under estimate the powers of the tin foil hat.
I'm afraid you've misjudged me.
I said I was shocked it took this long, implying I OVERESTIMATED the power, if not the video editing skills, of the Paranoid Party.
Post by: Rocky on April 24, 2020, 03:18:08 PM
Dark hole?.
You sick puppy 😝
(http://i.imgur.com/oswbBLL.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/oswbBLL)
Post by: macsak on April 24, 2020, 08:13:24 PM
It;s a combo, why would a Dr. from the Wuhan Biolab be putting what looks to be a block of dry ice in front of an air intake vent? Then quickly get on a train? Coincidences added up tell what happens.
that's not how it works...
Post by: macsak on April 24, 2020, 08:14:10 PM
She was wearing a black coat actually, but I guess vid traces her from leaving the lab to the market. Then placing the object by the intake for X reason.
The reason for placing the object near the vent is to release CV and have it circulate in the market. It may not have been dry ice, but looks like it. Why else would a person place it near an intake vent? Is this common practice at markets in Wuhan? No it's not.
I'm trying to find the vid and story, but google has erased it. But the images are not super clear either. Same quality like when Kim Jongs brother was injected.
insert "how convenient" .gif
Post by: eyeeatingfish on April 24, 2020, 09:35:39 PM
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Post by: changemyoil66 on April 24, 2020, 10:05:06 PM
1st time no report on new cases. Khon.
+edit 5 new. They announced it at 10:06 and noy at the start of the show like how they normally do.
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Post by: macsak on April 24, 2020, 10:20:43 PM
Watched 6pm and 10pm news, no #s for today. If it was zero, they would say. High new cases maybe?
1st time no report on new cases. Khon.
+edit 5 new. They announced it at 10:06 and noy at the start of the show like how they normally do.
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4D chess
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 24, 2020, 10:27:01 PM
4D chess5d...5g...oh snap.
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Post by: Bota-CS1 on April 24, 2020, 11:28:22 PM
5d...5g...oh snap.
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5G, Greta Thumberg, and the CCP are all colluding CMO! Carole Baskin is the real mastermind tho... :thumbsup: FREE Joe Exotic before Hillary can Epstein him like they did to Harambe 🦍!! 😱
Post by: macsak on April 25, 2020, 07:06:20 AM
5G, Greta Thumberg, and the CCP are all colluding CMO! Carole Baskin is the real mastermind tho... :thumbsup: FREE Joe Exotic before Hillary can Epstein him like they did to Harambe 🦍!! 😱
oh, man, you've almost got the whole story put together
"they" are going to scrub this post off the internet soon...
Post by: Rocky on April 25, 2020, 08:21:18 AM
Today's DOH update on Coronavirus in Hawaii
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 24, 2020
Total cases (new): 601 (5)
Hawai’i County: 69 (1)
Honolulu County: 392 (3)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 113 (1)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 6 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 67 (4)
Hawaii deaths: 14 (2)
Recovered: 463 (8)
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 23, 2020
Total cases (new): 596 (4)
Hawai’i County: 68 (1)
Honolulu County: 389 (1)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 112 (2)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 6 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 63 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 12 (0)
Recovered: 455 (11)
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 22, 2020
Total cases (new): 592 (6)
Hawai’i County: 67 (3)
Honolulu County: 388 (3)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 110 (0)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 6 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 63 (7)
Hawaii deaths: 12 (0)
Recovered: 444 (7)
Confirmed Cases by Age Group: (new)
0-19: 23 (1) - none were hospitalized (0 new)
20-39: 188 (2) - 6 were hospitalized (0 new)
40-59: 194 (2) - 15 were hospitalized (0 new)
60+: 124 (0) - 42 were hospitalized (7 new)
We have had 0 deaths in the past 24 hours - but we have 6 new cases - 3 on Oahu and 3 on the Big Island (see table). As of April 21, the number of
12:00 noon on March 25, 2020
Total (New) 95 (6) (5 Hawai‘i residents, 1 visitor)
Honolulu (4 new cases, total of 68)
Hawai‘i (0 new cases, total of 5)
Maui (1 new case, total of 13)
Kaua‘i (1 new case, total of 5)
Hospitalized (1 current + 3 discharged)
Deaths - 0
Risk Factors (2 new travel related cases, 59 total)
95 total cases since 2/28/20
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 25, 2020, 08:57:41 AM
oh, man, you've almost got the whole story put togetherOnly real doctors wear scrubs.
"they" are going to scrub this post off the internet soon...
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Post by: changemyoil66 on April 25, 2020, 08:58:57 AM
5G, Greta Thumberg, and the CCP are all colluding CMO! Carole Baskin is the real mastermind tho...Ur missing that elon will send another tesla in space and hide the body as the driver of it.FREE Joe Exotic before Hillary can Epstein him like they did to Harambe
!!
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Post by: changemyoil66 on April 26, 2020, 05:20:35 PM
Is there money to be made if someone goes to the hospital for CV? Thats why navy ship was so empty?
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Post by: macsak on April 26, 2020, 08:58:24 PM
How come NYC had so many CV and Japan has much less? What is NY doing that no one else is? Both are densely populated.
Is there money to be made if someone goes to the hospital for CV? Thats why navy ship was so empty?
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chemtrails?
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 26, 2020, 09:05:52 PM
chemtrails?#steelmeltsat1500degrees
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Post by: Rocky on April 27, 2020, 07:44:07 AM
Today's DOH update on Coronavirus in Hawaii
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 26, 2020
Total cases (new): 606 (2) Both under 18 yrs old
Hawai’i County: 70 (1)
Honolulu County: 396 (1)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 112 (0)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 7 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 68 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 14 (0)
Recovered: 488 (6)
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 25, 2020
Total cases (new): 604 (3)
Hawai’i County: 69 (0)
Honolulu County: 395 (3)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 112 (0) *As a result of updated information, a case previously included in Maui’s count was re-categorized to Honolulu.
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 7 (1)
Required Hospitalization: 68 (1)
Hawaii deaths: 14 (2)
Recovered: 482 (19)
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 24, 2020
Total cases (new): 601 (5)
Hawai’i County: 69 (1)
Honolulu County: 392 (3)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 113 (1)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 6 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 67 (4)
Hawaii deaths: 14 (2)
Recovered: 463 (8)
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 23, 2020
Total cases (new): 596 (4)
Hawai’i County: 68 (1)
Honolulu County: 389 (1)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 112 (2)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 6 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 63 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 12 (0)
Recovered: 455 (11)
12:00 noon on March 25, 2020
Total (New) 95 (6) (5 Hawai‘i residents, 1 visitor)
Honolulu (4 new cases, total of 68)
Hawai‘i (0 new cases, total of 5)
Maui (1 new case, total of 13)
Kaua‘i (1 new case, total of 5)
Hospitalized (1 current + 3 discharged)
Deaths - 0
Risk Factors (2 new travel related cases, 59 total)
95 total cases since 2/28/20
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Post by: Kuleana on April 27, 2020, 05:11:40 PM
It appears the US National Institute of Health was grant funding research to study bat-human virus transmission and had given funding to the infamous Wuhan Institute of Virology to do just that. Funding for this project to Wuhan started back during the Obama Administration, but was only recently cut by the Trump Administration last week.
Not surprisingly, US intelligence services and scientists reported that there was no evidence to suggest that the current Covid-19 pandemic was anyway connected to the infamous Wuhan Lab.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-cuts-us-research-on-bat-human-virus-transmission-over-china-ties/ar-BB13hJI1?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout
Have fun with this one!
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 27, 2020, 05:19:58 PM
Breaking news!
It appears the US National Institute of Health was grant funding research to study bat-human virus transmission and had given funding to the infamous Wuhan Institute of Virology to do just that. Funding for this project to Wuhan started back during the Obama Administration, but was only recently cut by the Trump Administration last week.
Not surprisingly, US intelligence services and scientists reported that there was no evidence to suggest that the current Covid-19 pandemic was anyway connected to the infamous Wuhan Lab.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-cuts-us-research-on-bat-human-virus-transmission-over-china-ties/ar-BB13hJI1?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout
Have fun with this one!
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence -- nor of compliance with all security and containment protocols.
If you're trying to make a case that lack of evidence is proof of something, you need to revisit your beliefs on Hawaii-based ICBMs. :geekdanc:
Post by: Kuleana on April 27, 2020, 06:45:07 PM
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence -- nor of compliance with all security and containment protocols.
The point is that the US played a role in bat-human virus transmission studies conducted at the Wuhan lab. Whether Covid-19 was a direct result of some sort of release from that lab has yet to be conclusively proven. It is just funny how talking heads in the US geopolitically attack and want to demonize China for whatever reason, but still relies on them to conduct scientific studies. :wtf:
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 27, 2020, 06:54:23 PM
The point is that the US played a role in bat-human virus transmission studies conducted at the Wuhan lab. Whether Covid-19 was a direct result of some sort of release from that lab has yet to be conclusively proven. It is just funny how talking heads in the US geopolitically attack and want to demonize China for whatever reason, but still relies on them to conduct scientific studies. :wtf:
Please elaborate on the "role" the US played. If it was merely the funding of research, I guess we should stop helping other nations 100% and never expect to benefit from their work?
Post by: Kuleana on April 27, 2020, 07:03:45 PM
Please elaborate on the "role" the US played. If it was merely the funding of research, I guess we should stop helping other nations 100% and never expect to benefit from their work?
America never helps any nation for free without any strings attached. In this case, the US grant funders funded human-bat virus transmission studies in Wuhan to obviously learn a thing or two on this topic that they felt was presumably within the national interest.
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 27, 2020, 08:27:44 PM
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Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 27, 2020, 08:40:34 PM
What are our flu numbers this year? Or did the cdc classify everything as cv?
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The year isn't over, and anything they have to date is a guesstimate.
They aren't currently testing all flu victims for CV unless their symptoms or travel/contact history says they ought to.
So, it's more likely the CV number will be undercounted and regular flu deaths over-counted.
Post by: macsak on April 27, 2020, 08:56:56 PM
What are our flu numbers this year? Or did the cdc classify everything as cv?
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flu numbers in many countries are down to zero over a month early due to handwashing and social distancing
anecdotally, in HI, we are experiencing the same thing...
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 27, 2020, 09:01:58 PM
flu numbers in many countries are down to zero over a month early due to handwashing and social distancing
anecdotally, in HI, we are experiencing the same thing...
I bet hepatitis, dysentery and food poisoning cases will be lower, too.
Good hygiene is critical to preventing almost any disease.
Post by: drck1000 on April 27, 2020, 09:26:27 PM
flu numbers in many countries are down to zero over a month early due to handwashing and social distancingSad when hand washing is seemingly a new thing to many. 🤢
anecdotally, in HI, we are experiencing the same thing...
I thought robbery incidents would’ve gone way up. Or at least I didn’t see coverage or data.
Post by: Kuleana on April 27, 2020, 09:32:58 PM
I thought robbery incidents would’ve gone way up. Or at least I didn’t see coverage or data.
Maybe its because there are no stores open for potential thieves spend their ill-gotten loot.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 27, 2020, 11:50:32 PM
Maybe its because there are no stores open for potential thieves spend their ill-gotten loot.
New York City and other large cities have reported a decrease in murders, but a huge increase in property crimes, like burglaries and car theft.
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Burglars and car thieves, though, seemed undeterred by the potentially deadly bug.
Both categories saw a significant increase last month compared to the year prior.
Burglaries were up by nearly 200 — or 26.3 percent — and grand larceny autos increased
by 61.7% or 187 more stolen cars.
https://nypost.com/2020/04/02/major-crimes-up-12-percent-in-nyc-despite-covid-19-outbreak/
Post by: Rocky on April 28, 2020, 07:31:58 AM
I thought robbery incidents would’ve gone way up. Or at least I didn’t see coverage or data.Home invasions are probably in decline.
Everyone is home with guns and enough bleach and towels to clean up the scene. :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: drck1000 on April 28, 2020, 07:53:57 AM
Home invasions are probably in decline.Yeah, what I was thinking. Mostly home invasions, not robbery of business... Well, at least folks are at home, maybe some waiting for guns.
Everyone is home with guns and enough bleach and towels to clean up the scene. :rofl: :rofl:
I was expecting folks to start getting desperate due to loss of jobs as well as knuckleheads with nothing better to do. Was seeing more home camera type reports initially, but that seemed to go down as well. Not the best or most accurate indicator, but I do think we would hear of the “near miss” type incidents via the various groups online, SM, etc.
Post by: Rocky on April 28, 2020, 08:51:34 AM
Today's DOH update on Coronavirus in Hawaii
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 27, 2020
Total cases (new): 607 (1)
Hawai’i County: 70 (0)
Honolulu County: 396 (0)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 113 (1)
Required Hospitalization: 68 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 16 (1) * Please note my calculations do not match the DOH - We had 14 yesterday - I'm waiting for clarification.
Recovered: 493 (5)
We have 1 new death to report and there is only 1 new case from Maui (see table). The Oahu woman who died was older than 65 and had been hospitalized since early April. She had other health conditions. As of April 26 the number of people who have been tested is 29,422. There currently are 114 active cases in the State that we are aware of. If you get a chance to get tested, do it.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 26, 2020
Total cases (new): 606 (2) Both under 18 yrs old
Hawai’i County: 70 (1)
Honolulu County: 396 (1)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 112 (0)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 7 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 68 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 14 (0)
Recovered: 488 (6)
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 25, 2020
Total cases (new): 604 (3)
Hawai’i County: 69 (0)
Honolulu County: 395 (3)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 112 (0) *As a result of updated information, a case previously included in Maui’s count was re-categorized to Honolulu.
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 7 (1)
Required Hospitalization: 68 (1)
Hawaii deaths: 14 (2)
Recovered: 482 (19)
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 24, 2020
Total cases (new): 601 (5)
Hawai’i County: 69 (1)
Honolulu County: 392 (3)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 113 (1)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 6 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 67 (4)
Hawaii deaths: 14 (2)
Recovered: 463 (8)
12:00 noon on March 25, 2020
Total (New) 95 (6) (5 Hawai‘i residents, 1 visitor)
Honolulu (4 new cases, total of 68)
Hawai‘i (0 new cases, total of 5)
Maui (1 new case, total of 13)
Kaua‘i (1 new case, total of 5)
Hospitalized (1 current + 3 discharged)
Deaths - 0
Risk Factors (2 new travel related cases, 59 total)
95 total cases since 2/28/20
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Post by: changemyoil66 on April 28, 2020, 11:14:42 AM
But the guy she was talking to has more of an educated judgement. So I told him some info that showed she suffers from TDS and he agreed. He also brought up more stuff about CV that he didn't want to argue with her about.
Post by: macsak on April 28, 2020, 11:19:41 AM
Yeah, what I was thinking. Mostly home invasions, not robbery of business... Well, at least folks are at home, maybe some waiting for guns.
I was expecting folks to start getting desperate due to loss of jobs as well as knuckleheads with nothing better to do. Was seeing more home camera type reports initially, but that seemed to go down as well. Not the best or most accurate indicator, but I do think we would hear of the “near miss” type incidents via the various groups online, SM, etc.
I was walking in the valley this weekend and I hear two neighbors on the next street discussing the fact that their cars were broken into
they are much closer to the main road (2-3 houses) than I am though
Post by: drck1000 on April 28, 2020, 11:43:07 AM
I was walking in the valley this weekend and I hear two neighbors on the next street discussing the fact that their cars were broken into:( >:(
they are much closer to the main road (2-3 houses) than I am though
The corner house at the top of the street with intersection with a main drag got hit a few times. They added bars on windows and doors in addition to their big dog. House location and proximity is definitely a factor.
I do recall reports of break-ins while people were home in the PC area. One family friend goes for walks in the neighborhood and talks story with pretty much everyone. Coconut wireless security system is pretty strong. They were the ones who let me know that the roofing on my dad's house was flapping in the wind. It was one shingle and very small section. My friend said someone from like 3 streets up noticed it one day. I was like "damn, these old folks must have been bored to notice that". :rofl:
Post by: Rocky on April 28, 2020, 12:42:18 PM
Home invasions are probably in decline.
Everyone is home with guns and enough bleach and towels to clean up the scene. :rofl:
Yeah, what I was thinking. Mostly home invasions, not robbery of business... Well, at least folks are at home, maybe some waiting for guns.Spoke too soon :oops:
I was expecting folks to start getting desperate due to loss of jobs as well as knuckleheads with nothing better to do. Was seeing more home camera type reports initially, but that seemed to go down as well. Not the best or most accurate indicator, but I do think we would hear of the “near miss” type incidents via the various groups online, SM, etc.
Stay tuned :thumbsup:
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 28, 2020, 01:28:29 PM
It hasn't gotten desperate yet, maybe a meat shortage might push people over the edge.
Post by: Rocky on April 29, 2020, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: changemyoil66 on April 27, 2020, 08:27:44 PM
What are our flu numbers this year? Or did the cdc classify everything as cv?
flu numbers in many countries are down to zero over a month early due to handwashing and social distancingIn total, the CDC estimates that up to 42.9 million people got sick during the 2018-2019 flu season, 647,000 people were hospitalized and 61,200 died. That’s fairly on par with a typical season, and well below the CDC’s 2017-2018 estimates of 48.8 million illnesses, 959,000 hospitalizations and 79,400 deaths.
anecdotally, in HI, we are experiencing the same thing...
At least 14,000 people have died and 250,000 have already been hospitalized during the 2019-2020 flu season, according to estimates from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. More than 26 million Americans have fallen ill with flu-like symptoms.
So that's a 75% drop in deaths CLASSIFIED as flu.
Gosh Dang Muricle ! :o
I still think many flu and other "natural causes" deaths are being classified as CV-19 deaths, even if they were CV-19 infected yet that was not the CAUSE of death.
JMHO
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 29, 2020, 12:55:19 PM
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 29, 2020, 03:46:19 PM
Hydrochloro cost $0.60 per pill. 12 companies make it, including that french pharma who is the 5th largest in the world. The one Trumps family trust has a mutual fund of which, 3% is allocated to it.
That stuff that Japan uses cost $0.40 per pill. Starts with an A something. 10 companies make it
Nothing to see here.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200430/49abc4322dbf2dbbf493d96adc0ea212.jpg)
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Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 29, 2020, 05:55:32 PM
FDA to approve Remdisvir which cost $1k per pill and only 1 company makes it Gilead. See below when i went to their website.
Hydrochloro cost $0.60 per pill. 12 companies make it, including that french pharma who is the 5th largest in the world. The one Trumps family trust has a mutual fund of which, 3% is allocated to it.
That stuff that Japan uses cost $0.40 per pill. Starts with an A something. 10 companies make it
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Yeah, here's what happens when someone not on a crappy cell phone connection goes to that site ...
(https://i.imgur.com/jR8iiLo.png)
BTW, your FAKE NEWS is showing. How can something that is in trials have any known costs for the public?
Not only that, but I must have missed the part where pills are being administered intravenously! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Since January, Gilead has invested significant capital to establish a supply chain capable of large-
scale production of remdesivir.
The production of remdesivir is a long, linear chemical synthesis process that must be completed
sequentially and includes several specialized chemistry steps and novel substances with limited
global availability. The process is both resource- and time-intensive, with some individual manufacturing
steps taking weeks to complete. Because remdesivir is administered intravenously, production
also requires sterile drug product manufacturing capabilities, which limits the number of organizations
capable of manufacturing the medicine. This complex process impacts the ability to rapidly produce large
quantities of drug supply in an emergency situation like the COVID-19 pandemic. In light of these realities,
Gilead worked early on, before any clinical trials had started, to procure a steady flow of long-lead-time
raw materials that will accelerate large-scale production of remdesivir by our current and future partners
once these materials become available in significant quantities.
https://www.gilead.com/purpose/advancing-global-health/covid-19/working-to-supply-remdesivir-for-covid-19
Post by: macsak on April 29, 2020, 08:26:50 PM
Yeah, here's what happens when someone not on a crappy cell phone connection goes to that site ...
BTW, your FAKE NEWS is showing. How can something that is in trials have any known costs for the public?
Not only that, but I must have missed the part where pills are being administered intravenously! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
https://www.gilead.com/purpose/advancing-global-health/covid-19/working-to-supply-remdesivir-for-covid-19
don't doubt his "intel"
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 29, 2020, 09:09:18 PM
Dont fall for what the pharma is telling u how hard its to make and maintain quality via their own words.
The page is working now. Guess they had to add in how they make it to justify its cost. We will see if its a few dollars to be fixed or thousands...
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Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 29, 2020, 09:12:14 PM
My bad, comes in a powder form that is then diluted. Mg to ml.
Dont fall for what the pharma is telling u how hard its to make and maintain quality via their own words.
The page is working now. Guess they had to add in how they make it to justify its cost. We will see if its a few dollars to be fixed or thousands...
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What's your source for the cost, as you said, of $1000 per pill?
Or is that now being altered to $100 per some arbitrary number of milligrams? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 29, 2020, 09:18:09 PM
My bad, comes in a powder form that is then diluted. Mg to ml.
Dont fall for what the pharma is telling u how hard its to make and maintain quality via their own words.
The page is working now. Guess they had to add in how they make it to justify its cost. We will see if its a few dollars to be fixed or thousands...
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By the way, if the drug is already in liquid form, it's easier to administer. Using a powder requires reagents and possibly buffers and the like to preserve and emulsify the drug to solid form.
Of course, I'm not an expert, but it seems implausible that the drug is in powder form, especially when their cost breakout is by the pill! :wacko:
Post by: Rocky on April 30, 2020, 06:58:37 AM
Post by: Jl808 on May 03, 2020, 07:36:37 AM
Newsweek Bombshell: Covid-19 Lab Made? Fauci Connected?
Post by: Rocky on May 03, 2020, 06:53:22 PM
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 04, 2020, 12:44:36 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on May 04, 2020, 12:52:36 PM
How many of you got a N95 with a valve or a P100 respirator that has an exhale type valve? San Fran bans these types of mask. How long b4 Hawaii follows?
If they ban those, they have to ban all types of masks that use valves to allow exhaled air to exit unfiltered -- pretty much every single mask that uses replaceable filters.
Simple solution: wear a bandana over your mask.
BTW, most of those valves have a cover that is designed to prevent particles from falling into and collecting in the valve -- i.e. the exhaust holes face down.
If someone coughs or sneezes in the mask, any droplets will either collect on the inside of the valve cover, or it will be directed downward, preventing the droplets from becoming airborne.
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 04, 2020, 01:59:03 PM
If they ban those, they have to ban all types of masks that use valves to allow exhaled air to exit unfiltered -- pretty much every single mask that uses replaceable filters.
Simple solution: wear a bandana over your mask.
BTW, most of those valves have a cover that is designed to prevent particles from falling into and collecting in the valve -- i.e. the exhaust holes face down.
If someone coughs or sneezes in the mask, any droplets will either collect on the inside of the valve cover, or it will be directed downward, preventing the droplets from becoming airborne.
Your analysis sounds good, but you know how Hawaii law makers think. SF already banned any valve type regardless which direction it faces.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on May 04, 2020, 07:21:08 PM
Your analysis sounds good, but you know how Hawaii law makers think. SF already banned any valve type regardless which direction it faces.
They also let illegals live there without fear of deportation (sanctuary), have a massive poop problem in their streets, and made it a mere misdemeanor to knowingly be HIV positive and have unprotected sex with someone.-- without informing their partner of their HIV status.
It's obvious SF has the health and welfare of American citizens in mind when they make these decisions.
Post by: RSN172 on May 04, 2020, 08:08:23 PM
How many of you got a N95 with a valve or a P100 respirator that has an exhale type valve? San Fran bans these types of mask. How long b4 Hawaii follows?My N95s are medical grade. No mo valves.
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 04, 2020, 08:40:00 PM
My N95s are medical grade. No mo valves.Not allowed to wear in public per mayors order.
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Post by: ren on May 04, 2020, 08:43:35 PM
Post by: RSN172 on May 05, 2020, 12:03:23 AM
Not allowed to wear in public per mayors order.With all due respect to da Mayor, Gov and whomever else it may concern. I don't give a rat's ass. I use um anyway and nobody has said anything. In fact every time I go shopping I see at least 10 or more wearing N95s.
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Post by: changemyoil66 on May 05, 2020, 08:58:12 AM
With all due respect to da Mayor, Gov and whomever else it may concern. I don't give a rat's ass. I use um anyway and nobody has said anything. In fact every time I go shopping I see at least 10 or more wearing N95s.
Keep in mind not all N95's are medical grade. The white ones are "carpenter grade". The blue ones are medical grade. Diff between the 2 is the blue ones are FDA approved and NIOSH approved. White ones are just NIOSH approved (with or without valve).
Post by: RSN172 on May 05, 2020, 10:36:03 AM
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 05, 2020, 12:35:26 PM
I going use one bandana over my mask fo hide um den.
Make ninja mask from tshirt. elementary school style.
Post by: Rocky on May 05, 2020, 06:15:15 PM
Post by: aieahound on May 05, 2020, 11:32:33 PM
2 Chinese, 1 a scientist doing coronavirus research, found shot dead in Pennsylvania within a mile of each other.
CMO, I‘M gonna need more tinfoil.
Post by: Rocky on May 06, 2020, 10:02:59 AM
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 06, 2020, 12:32:12 PM
Post by: RSN172 on May 06, 2020, 01:35:20 PM
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 06, 2020, 02:01:45 PM
In dis case, da Japanee git mo powah den da hauole.
Revenge for putting us in camps in 1942
Post by: groveler on May 06, 2020, 02:39:54 PM
If they ban those, they have to ban all types of masks that use valves to allow exhaled air to exit unfiltered -- pretty much every single mask that uses replaceable filters.If they ban,
Simple solution: wear a bandana over your mask.
BTW, most of those valves have a cover that is designed to prevent particles from falling into and collecting in the valve -- i.e. the exhaust holes face down.
If someone coughs or sneezes in the mask, any droplets will either collect on the inside of the valve cover, or it will be directed downward, preventing the droplets from becoming airborne.
will you obey?
I won't.
This whole thing is horse shit.
I wear the useless masks to not upset the stupid
people I'm stuck with living with.
When nobody is watching we take them off.
and act like normal people.
Post by: ren on May 06, 2020, 03:42:36 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on May 06, 2020, 04:11:17 PM
If they ban,
will you obey?
I won't.
This whole thing is horse shit.
I wear the useless masks to not upset the stupid
people I'm stuck with living with.
When nobody is watching we take them off.
and act like normal people.
The 2 masks I wear have the valves -- one a soft mask, the other a half-face 3M with the dual cartridge filters.
I keep a bandana in my pocket, too, for whatever need arises.
I'd put the bandana over the filter mask if stopped. It'll be fun to hear the Cop complain that I have to remove the mask beneath it to be compliant. :rofl:
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 06, 2020, 06:42:27 PM
The 2 masks I wear have the valves -- one a soft mask, the other a half-face 3M with the dual cartridge filters.Dont give them ideas
I keep a bandana in my pocket, too, for whatever need arises.
I'd put the bandana over the filter mask if stopped. It'll be fun to hear the Cop complain that I have to remove the mask beneath it to be compliant. :rofl:
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Post by: Rocky on May 08, 2020, 04:51:33 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on May 08, 2020, 06:19:56 PM
Coronavirus: Ted Cruz says
San Antonio's ban on racist term
'Chinese virus' is 'nuts'
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Calling the coronavirus the "Chinese virus" can be investigated as hate speech in the city of San Antonio,
Texas.
The San Antonio City Council voted 11-0 Thursday to classify terms like "Chinese virus" and "Kung Fu Virus"
as hate speech, and encouraged residents to report "any such antisemitic, discriminatory or racist incidents
to the proper authorities for investigation."
The resolution was introduced by the city's mayor, Ron Nirenberg, as a response to increased aggression
aimed at Asians and Jewish people in the city, stating "the safety and well-being of all community members,
including the Asian and Jewish communities, and in combating hate crimes targeting Asians, Jews and Pacific
Islanders."
According to Councilwoman Shirley Gonzales, a local Chinese restaurant had been the site of several racist
incidents rooted in coronavirus fears.
"It's been in operation for almost 90 years. They have been the victims of hate speech and hate crimes, with
vandalism and that sort of thing on their property," Ms Gonzales said.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/san-antonio-bans-racist-chinese-virus-ted-cruz-a9505881.html
So, basically, instead of catching and prosecuting the actual vandals and other criminals breaking actual laws, they want to make new criminals of people for using words which were already used in the official media to label the COVID-19 virus.
Too bad there's not a PC-Snowflake-Virus.
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 09, 2020, 12:42:05 AM
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Post by: Flapp_Jackson on May 09, 2020, 10:05:47 AM
Outbreak is on netflix. Puts a good perspective on things. Writers did their homework seeing what were going thru with corona.
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My favorite "who thought that was a good idea?" part of the film is when the two choppers chasing Cuba and Dustin almost collide head-on. The sound effect is like something they stole from a Bugs Bunny cartoon!
Post by: Rocky on May 09, 2020, 11:42:30 AM
Post by: Rocky on May 12, 2020, 06:43:39 AM
Post by: RSN172 on May 12, 2020, 07:07:28 AM
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 12, 2020, 12:47:08 PM
Post by: groveler on May 12, 2020, 01:16:25 PM
https://youtu.be/X29lF43mUloMy Da earned a BS degree in Microbiology
later in Life. I helped him on his senior project,
growing Typhus. I did most the cultures.
I was 8 or 9 years old.
I'm not sure why a Lab Tech gets thousands of
dollars a year to grow stuff in a Petrie dish and
then make slides from the culture.
But that is Old school.
For the most part Carlin is right.
Except
You always wash after defecating.
You always wash after dealing with raw
foods and going on to something else.
Your mouth is the most filthy part of your body
wash after you floss.
Post by: Rocky on May 12, 2020, 03:36:03 PM
Post by: ren on May 12, 2020, 03:40:56 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on May 12, 2020, 04:23:56 PM
so if iPhones and Nikes are still being made isn't that a good pulse from China that thousands aren't dying as we thought?
"Thousands" is a drop in the bucket with a country of 1.393 BILLION.
They are not suffering a shortage of workers.
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 13, 2020, 09:02:34 AM
I got money that there will be a "2nd" infection and the numbers will skyrocket because there is no way China can half as little deaths as they're claiming (4400 total deaths and 88K infected). They're going to use the 2nd wave to increase the numbers ten fold. They got caught in a lie.
Post by: drck1000 on May 13, 2020, 09:16:58 AM
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 13, 2020, 01:34:36 PM
I’m more wondering about accounting for folks who were in locked down areas of China that are not accounted for.
Follow the cell phone usage...#rabithole
Post by: drck1000 on May 13, 2020, 01:42:21 PM
Follow the cell phone usage...#rabithole#imnotahightechwabbit
I mean I'm no conspiracy theorist, but reports of whole provinces (not sure if that's the correct term) were locked down. And some areas on outskirts of Wuhan were pretty rural and were essentially cut off from neighbors. Some of those rural areas maybe not where cell phone usage ownership is as common as what we are used to, as well as starvation a pretty big concern in normal times.
Post by: ren on May 13, 2020, 09:43:27 PM
https://www.khon2.com/coronavirus/arriving-passenger-who-tested-positive-for-covid-19-showed-no-symptoms/ (https://www.khon2.com/coronavirus/arriving-passenger-who-tested-positive-for-covid-19-showed-no-symptoms/)
so no ankle bracelet, hotel staff snitching (maybe neighbors?)
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 14, 2020, 09:20:18 AM
not a tourist
https://www.khon2.com/coronavirus/arriving-passenger-who-tested-positive-for-covid-19-showed-no-symptoms/ (https://www.khon2.com/coronavirus/arriving-passenger-who-tested-positive-for-covid-19-showed-no-symptoms/)
so no ankle bracelet, hotel staff snitching (maybe neighbors?)
So he showed no symptoms and said he felt fine. Yet he had a 101 fever...I call BS.
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 14, 2020, 09:22:12 AM
#imnotahightechwabbit
I mean I'm no conspiracy theorist, but reports of whole provinces (not sure if that's the correct term) were locked down. And some areas on outskirts of Wuhan were pretty rural and were essentially cut off from neighbors. Some of those rural areas maybe not where cell phone usage ownership is as common as what we are used to, as well as starvation a pretty big concern in normal times.
Cell phone subscriptions dropped by a huge percent. So those who already had a plan, didn't pay or renew it for some odd reason...1 could say that maybe they're weren't making $, so they had to stop their cell plan. In this day and age, people find ways to keep their phones. Especially in a high tech country like China.
Post by: ren on May 14, 2020, 09:31:34 AM
So he showed no symptoms and said he felt fine. Yet he had a 101 fever...I call BS.
Point is that a lot of the public's perception that this virus was brought largely by tourists is not accurate. All the tourist "hating", the convoys were all misdirected. Think about it - was is the average length of stay of a tourist versus a returning resident?
Post by: drck1000 on May 14, 2020, 09:41:23 AM
Cell phone subscriptions dropped by a huge percent. So those who already had a plan, didn't pay or renew it for some odd reason...1 could say that maybe they're weren't making $, so they had to stop their cell plan. In this day and age, people find ways to keep their phones. Especially in a high tech country like China.Yeah, I remember hearing some of that. I was more referring to the folks in the boonies that I remember hearing stories of them being totally cut off by the next major metro area over. NPR covered one where the access to that area was a bridge over the river and the metro area locked it down, like in the movie I am Legend. The concern was that those people had no access to healthcare and no voice to report how things went. The theory was hundreds died due to starvation and numbers weren't reported. I'm not saying that that's the truth, but I would not be surprised at all if it came out that's what happened. Though it was in line with my concern more with the reaction to the virus than the virus itself.
Post by: drck1000 on May 14, 2020, 09:42:34 AM
Point is that a lot of the public's perception that this virus was brought largely by tourists is not accurate. All the tourist "hating", the convoys were all misdirected. Think about it - was is the average length of stay of a tourist versus a returning resident?I felt bad for that one guy on Molokai that returned from Vegas and ended testing positive and resulted in the local stores closing.
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 14, 2020, 09:47:15 AM
Point is that a lot of the public's perception that this virus was brought largely by tourists is not accurate. All the tourist "hating", the convoys were all misdirected. Think about it - was is the average length of stay of a tourist versus a returning resident?
100% accurate. Almost all the CV cases from Jan-March were from residents traveling. IDK how many were work related, but I'm gonna assume most work related travel was cancelled unless they're essential. So majority were from Vacation, even 1 of our senators. He went to Vegas end of feb for his reunion. Got CV. I have at least 10 friends on FB who posted pics of them on vacation from jan-March. And another 3 who were on vacation international. Luckily, none came down with CV because their pics on their pages continued without interruption. And during those early months, lots of CV was not known, so cancelling vacation would be the best option.
Now we understand more about CV and traveling isn't that bad, as long as you avoid the high CV areas like NY and it's surrounding states. WA has 200 active CV cases and OR has 800.
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 14, 2020, 09:48:02 AM
I felt bad for that one guy on Molokai that returned from Vegas and ended testing positive and resulted in the local stores closing.
Yet no one is mad at him for going on vacation. But they will show up at the airport with signs saying tourist go home. This guy shut down the only market in the area.
Post by: Inspector on May 14, 2020, 09:57:28 AM
Yeah, I remember hearing some of that. I was more referring to the folks in the boonies that I remember hearing stories of them being totally cut off by the next major metro area over. NPR covered one where the access to that area was a bridge over the river and the metro area locked it down, like in the movie I am Legend. The concern was that those people had no access to healthcare and no voice to report how things went. The theory was hundreds died due to starvation and numbers weren't reported. I'm not saying that that's the truth, but I would not be surprised at all if it came out that's what happened. Though it was in line with my concern more with the reaction to the virus than the virus itself.I was wondering what happened to those who I heard the doors to their apartments were welded shut. Did they ever come back and grind off the welds? Crazy stuff.
Post by: drck1000 on May 14, 2020, 10:01:08 AM
Yet no one is mad at him for going on vacation. But they will show up at the airport with signs saying tourist go home. This guy shut down the only market in the area.While I don't know for sure either way, I would assume that he definitely caught flak for it, if not worse. My dad's family is from Molokai and I still have some family that live there. I haven't heard from them on this issue, but I would be very surprised if he didn't catch $hit for his actions and decisions.
Post by: drck1000 on May 14, 2020, 10:01:28 AM
I was wondering what happened to those who I heard the doors to their apartments were welded shut. Did they ever come back and grind off the welds? Crazy stuff.Jump out the window. . . :o
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 14, 2020, 10:06:03 AM
I was wondering what happened to those who I heard the doors to their apartments were welded shut. Did they ever come back and grind off the welds? Crazy stuff.
From the vids that I saw, it seems like the occupants welded the doors or bars over the doors to keep the government out. Because the vids I saw were of police/health care people waiting next to the guy trying to saw the bars.
Post by: macsak on May 14, 2020, 10:17:58 AM
Cell phone subscriptions dropped by a huge percent. So those who already had a plan, didn't pay or renew it for some odd reason...1 could say that maybe they're weren't making $, so they had to stop their cell plan. In this day and age, people find ways to keep their phones. Especially in a high tech country like China.they did not drop by a huge percent
Post by: groveler on May 14, 2020, 11:30:58 AM
Cell phone subscriptions dropped by a huge percent. So those who already had a plan, didn't pay or renew it for some odd reason...1 could say that maybe they're weren't making $, so they had to stop their cell plan. In this day and age, people find ways to keep their phones. Especially in a high tech country like China.I'm pretty sure under Chinese law most
everyone has to own a cell phone, if they
live in a city.
Post by: drck1000 on May 14, 2020, 11:54:51 AM
I'm pretty sure under Chinese law mostThey are called "XI Jinping-phone". Chinese equivalent of Obamaphone. Mandatory to use your communist allowance to buy Huawei phone.
everyone has to own a cell phone, if they
live in a city.
[mostly sarcasm]
Post by: drck1000 on May 14, 2020, 11:55:18 AM
they did not drop by a huge percentIt's "uge", instead of huge. . . :rofl:
Post by: zippz on May 14, 2020, 03:08:45 PM
Post by: Rocky on May 14, 2020, 03:27:46 PM
Today's DOH update on Coronavirus in Hawaii
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on May 14, 2020
Total cases (new): 637 (0)
Hawai’i County: 75 (0)
Honolulu County: 414 (0)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 117 (0)
Pending: 0 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 81 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 17 (0)
Recovered: 564 (1)
There have been 637 cases of COVID-19 identified in Hawaii. Of those cases, 13% have required hospitalization, and 576 (90%) were residents.
As of May 13 the number of people who have been tested is 39,767. There currently are 73 active cases in the State that we are aware of.
Mayor Caldwell announced the rules included in a new emergency order that extends through June 30, and incorporates previous requirements for wearing a face mask in public and maintaining social distancing guidelines. The new order allows public and private outdoors sports fields and courts on Oahu to reopen for one-on-one activities in which it is possible to maintain 6 feet of physical distance between each other at all time. Some examples of permitted activities include singles tennis and pickleball, yoga, and tai chi. An example of an excluded activity would be one-on-one or team basketball.
The order also allows drive-in religious services starting Friday as long as worshippers remain in their vehicles and park at least 6 feet from each other or keep their windows up. Retail shops and malls open tomorrow.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on May 13, 2020
Total cases (new): 638 (3)
Hawai’i County: 75 (0)
Honolulu County: 414 (3)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 117 (0)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 11 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 81 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 17 (0)
Recovered: 563 (0)
0-19: 32 (2) - none were hospitalized (0 new)
20-39: 208 (0) - 7 were hospitalized (0 new)
40-59: 197 (1) - 23 were hospitalized (0 new)
60+: 120 (0) - 51 were hospitalized (0 new)
new cases are on Oahu and includes an adult and 2 children from a cluster being found at Kalihi Valley Homes Housing Complex.
As of May 12 the number of people who have been tested is 38,881. There currently are 75 active cases in the State that we are aware of.
The governmental administration is trying to figure a safe way to control visitors for now. A few days ago, while checking temperatures for people getting on and off the planes, they discovered a man from Arkansas that had been in Hawaii and was going to fly home to Arkansas had an elevated temperature. He was prevented from traveling back until he was cleared. Many hotels are now issuing single use room keys to visitors who are supposed to be doing 14 days of quarantine. If they leave the room for any reason, they need to check in with the hotel front desk to be issued a citation and a new key. Not all hotels are participating in this, but are using other methods to help maintain quarantine. The governor also stated that rental cars are not available to visitors until they have finished quarantine. This just shows how much easier it would be to test people before they got on the plane to come here. We are waiting for the appropriate test to do this. Then everyone could move about safely without worry.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on May 11, 2020
Total cases (new): 634 (2)
Hawai’i County: 75 (0)
Honolulu County: 410 (2)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 117 (0)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 11 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 81 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 17 (0)
Recovered: 561 (0)
We have 0 new deaths to report - and 2 new cases (see table). The new cases are on Oahu and are in the 0-19 age range. For 23 consecutive days, fewer than six new cases of the novel coronavirus have been reported statewide.
As of May 10 the number of people who have been tested is 38,042. There currently are 73 active cases in the State that we are aware of.
Hawaii’s hospital bed capacity is currently sufficient to handle the demand should we have a surge.
The state has a plan to increase contact tracing “should the number of cases grow to 1,000 per day,” according to the Governor. Laboratories across the islands are capable of conducting as many as 3,000 diagnostic tests per day, but currently process 400 to 500 specimens each day based on doctor referrals.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on May 5, 2020
Total cases (new): 625 (4)
Hawai’i County: 74 (0)
Honolulu County: 404 (4)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 116 (0)
Pending: 0 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 73 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 17 (0)
Recovered: 551 (3)
and 4 new cases, 2 in the 20-39 range and 2 in the 40-59 range. One of the new cases was on the Big Island and three were on Oahu .
The one person on Kauai that was hospitalized has now recovered and has been released.
As of May 4 the number of people who have been tested is 35,918. There currently are 74 active cases in the State that we are aware of.
Today Governor Ige announced changes to take place starting Thursday, May 7.
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 22, 2020
Total cases (new): 592 (6)
Hawai’i County: 67 (3)
Honolulu County: 388 (3)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 110 (0)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 6 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 63 (7)
Hawaii deaths: 12 (0)
Recovered: 444 (7)
Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 7, 2020
Total cases (new): 410 (23)
Hawai’i County: 23 (0)
Honolulu County: 312 (20)
Kaua’i County: 18 (1)
Maui County: 48 (4)
Pending: 7 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 2 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 42 (16)
Hawaii deaths: 5(0) Recovered: 113 (24)
The state has conducted 15,149 COVID-19 tests to date
12:00 noon on March 25, 2020
Total (New) 95 (6) (5 Hawai‘i residents, 1 visitor)
Honolulu (4 new cases, total of 68)
Hawai‘i (0 new cases, total of 5)
Maui (1 new case, total of 13)
Kaua‘i (1 new case, total of 5)
Hospitalized (1 current + 3 discharged)
Deaths - 0
Risk Factors (2 new travel related cases, 59 total)
95 total cases since 2/28/20
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Post by: changemyoil66 on May 18, 2020, 09:16:21 PM
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Post by: macsak on May 20, 2020, 08:24:29 AM
Trump mentions he like other docs take HCQ for prevention. Wouldnt be surprised if someone is wondering why he isnt sick yet after sending in a trojan horse.
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so wait, HCQ causes Covid? I thought it was 5G?
Post by: ren on May 20, 2020, 08:27:17 AM
Trump mentions he like other docs take HCQ for prevention. Wouldnt be surprised if someone is wondering why he isnt sick yet after sending in a trojan horse.
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HCQ is a topical ointment for teeth whitening....
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Post by: changemyoil66 on May 20, 2020, 08:45:39 AM
HCQ is a topical ointment for teeth whitening....
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Shhhh, someone might ingest it to protect themselves from CV. BRB buying more tin foil and teeth whitening strips.
Post by: drck1000 on May 20, 2020, 09:30:10 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/health/cdc-now-says-coronavirus-does-not-spread-easily-via-contaminated-surfaces (https://www.foxnews.com/health/cdc-now-says-coronavirus-does-not-spread-easily-via-contaminated-surfaces)Can't wait to see how Ige effs this up when he tries to field questions. . .
Post by: oldfart on May 20, 2020, 11:23:09 AM
Can't wait to see how Ige effs this up when he tries to field questions. . .=============
Governor Ige at the next press conference...
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Post by: zippz on May 20, 2020, 11:58:49 AM
Hawaii is having a stronger realization on how everything is connected to tourism when businesses reopen but are still losing money because there are no tourists. This also affects suppliers to these tourism related businesses and other wide ranging effects.
Post by: groveler on May 20, 2020, 02:05:43 PM
I expect Hawaii will be opening up faster than previously expected and I think that will be the tone for the Governor's press release. This is due to seeing the rest of the nation opening up rapidly, even in Democrat strongholds like Los Angeles and New York and Congresses reluctance on passing further stimulus and bailouts. The Hawaii legislatures cautious approach to the budget is an indicator of that. Also the media is letting up on the criticism of states reopening.Another national article on us
Hawaii is having a stronger realization on how everything is connected to tourism when businesses reopen but are still losing money because there are no tourists. This also affects suppliers to these tourism related businesses and other wide ranging effects.
https://apnews.com/5f76272b22f2171ded94fb0bd84d7e9e
I don't see Hawaii tourism recovering that quick.
If they institute limits on tourists such as quarantine,
verification of health before arrival, 6 foot spacing in restaurants,
beaches, et al. Nobody is going to want to deal with that.
Couple that with economics, not a lot of people are going to
want to travel and spend like they used to.
Another problem is most business's have the same costs.
Hard to run a restaurant/Airline/Tour at 50% of capacity in
a facility where they were barely making it at 100% capacity.
Post by: Rocky on June 15, 2020, 03:48:55 PM
Cases in past 28 days by zip code:
96717--0
96762--0
96731--0
96712--0
96786--0
96791--0
96759--0
96792--1-5 Waianae
96707--1-5 Kapolei
96706--0
96818--1-5 Honolulu (Hickam)
96707--1-5 Kapolei
96797--21-50 Waipahu
96789--0
96782--1-5
96819--21-50 Honolulu
96817--1-5 Honolulu
96814--1-5 Honolulu
96813--1-5 Honolulu
96817--1-5 Honolulu
96822--1-5 Honolulu
96816--1-5 Honolulu
96815--1-5 Honolulu
96826--1-5 Honolulu
96821--0
96895--0
96825--1-5 Honolulu
96795--0
96734--1-5 Kailua
96744--1-5
96786--0
96701--1-5
Post by: macsak on June 15, 2020, 04:24:40 PM
Please add neighborhood if you know
Cases in past 28 days by zip code:
96717--0
96762--0
96731--0
96712--0
96786--0
96791--0
96759--0
96792--1-5 Waianae
96707--1-5 Kapolei
96706--0
96818--1-5 Honolulu (Hickam)
96707--1-5 Kapolei
96797--21-50 Waipahu
96789--0
96782--1-5
96819--21-50 Honolulu
96817--1-5 Honolulu
96814--1-5 Honolulu
96813--1-5 Honolulu
96817--1-5 Honolulu
96822--1-5 Honolulu
96816--1-5 Kaimuki
96815--1-5 Honolulu
96826--1-5 Honolulu
96821--0 aina haina/niu valley
96895--0
96825--1-5 HK
96795--0
96734--1-5 Kailua
96744--1-5 Kaneohe
96786--0
96701--1-5