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General Topics => Legal and Activism => Topic started by: 6716J on March 04, 2020, 01:58:01 PM

Title: FUNDRAISING
Post by: 6716J on March 04, 2020, 01:58:01 PM
Started a fundraising thing for us

You want'em, you got'em

Proceeds will go to support us in our fight for our rights

Spread the word

https://www.bonfire.com/hele-mai-lawe-ia/
Different colors available
$25 for short sleeve
$30 for long sleeve

(https://c.bonfireassets.com/thumb/design-image/67200e2c-9127-4d74-87a0-692dfc22cbf5/525c8344-a051-4133-822b-d74451e7e7c4/?size=900)
(https://c.bonfireassets.com/thumb/design-image/9d631202-68ba-4fa8-b884-d753f47f99a1/525c8344-a051-4133-822b-d74451e7e7c4/?size=900)
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: groveler on March 04, 2020, 02:29:10 PM
I hate to be an a$$,
I spent years as a project engineer
on multi-million dollar projects.
Can you tell us a little bit about how
your funds will be dispensed?
I joined HIFISCO or whatever.
I'm Life NRA member.
I'm also GOA member.
Most these "clubs" are disappointing
in some way shape or form.
Why should we buy into yours?
Just asking.
P.S. I like the shirt, but can buy one
on-line cheaper.
Aloha

Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: 6716J on March 04, 2020, 02:47:57 PM
No offense taken. I get it.

Bottom line is shirts get sold, the profit will go to HiFiCo. Profit is about $7.50 depending, after costs per shirt.

Yes you can get t-shirts way cheaper online but these are printed and shipped to whomever buys them. And it's for our cause. It's up to you, but nobody is holding a proverbial gun to your head. But I hope you do.

(https://i.imgflip.com/3rfy3i.jpg)
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 04, 2020, 02:59:17 PM
I hate to be an a$$,
I spent years as a project engineer
on multi-million dollar projects.
Can you tell us a little bit about how
your funds will be dispensed?
I joined HIFISCO or whatever.
I'm Life NRA member.
I'm also GOA member.
Most these "clubs" are disappointing
in some way shape or form.
Why should we buy into yours?
Just asking.
P.S. I like the shirt, but can buy one
on-line cheaper.
Aloha

Political fundraisers charge $500-$25,000 for a chicken dinner.  I'm sure the donors aren't thinking the price is supposed to be competitive with $10-$30 alternatives.
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: hvybarrels on March 04, 2020, 07:59:07 PM
I am not doing it for charity. I just want to start a conversation with some book-smart kanakas and find out what we agree on.
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: Heavies on March 05, 2020, 09:46:53 AM
Ordered.
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: oldfart on March 05, 2020, 10:26:38 AM
I wasn't sure how big to get it so I got an XL in grey and a XXL in red. I love loose fitting clothing anyway.
The AC is cold at work so this is perfect.
Thanks for doing this.
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: groveler on March 05, 2020, 10:37:15 AM
No offense taken. I get it.

Bottom line is shirts get sold, the profit will go to HiFiCo. Profit is about $7.50 depending, after costs per shirt.

Yes you can get t-shirts way cheaper online but these are printed and shipped to whomever buys them. And it's for our cause. It's up to you, but nobody is holding a proverbial gun to your head. But I hope you do.

(https://i.imgflip.com/3rfy3i.jpg)
Thanks.
I'll skip on the shirt but will divert one of my GOA donations to
HiFiCo. that is way more than the shirt profit.
I tend to go through life being "Gray".
I don't like to attract attention in public.
I gave my HiFiCo shirt to my wife.
Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: 6716J on March 05, 2020, 10:37:20 AM
Mahalo guys.

Hoping to spread this to the mainland too so they can understand our plight out here
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: oldfart on March 05, 2020, 11:54:56 AM
Thanks.
I'll skip on the shirt but will divert one of my GOA donations to
HiFiCo. that is way more than the shirt profit.
I tend to go through life being "Gray".
I don't like to attract attention in public.
I gave my HiFiCo shirt to my wife.
Keep up the good work.
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I have a yellow HIFICO shirt that I got at the last gun show. But after I washed it da bugga wen shrink so no fit any moa
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: Brystont1 on March 05, 2020, 12:03:00 PM
I am not doing it for charity. I just want to start a conversation with some book-smart kanakas and find out what we agree on.

I wonder why more kanakas aren’t pro gun.
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: groveler on March 05, 2020, 12:35:44 PM
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I have a yellow HIFICO shirt that I got at the last gun show. But after I washed it da bugga wen shrink so no fit any moa
You must be rich, washing with hot water.
I'm retired, so I can only afford cold water for washing.
Plus my solar water heater just failed and I haven't
installed the new one yet.
Us outer island guys will survive.

Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: hvybarrels on March 05, 2020, 01:04:37 PM
I wonder why more kanakas aren’t pro gun.

I am guessing a lot of them do have guns but they do not register them because of mistrust issues with the government. Also many have priors, which tends to happen a lot when people grow up poor. The more wealthy university-connected ones tend to lean more liberal since that is where their bread gets buttered with scholarships, grants, govt programs, etc. It is a very large generalization but basically FedRec separated out the two camps with the University Liberals realizing they could get a huge payday while the more purist Hawaiian nationals would never exchange their legal options for a handout. It seems one of the major reasons Aloha Aina party was founded was to let the purist group know that it is right and necessary to engage in Babylon politics without selling out. I went to a meeting with them a few years ago and there were some crazies (one pseudo-lawyer chick really stood out),  but most realize that things can never go back to the way they were and their survival means inclusion. They had break out groups to discuss policies of the government they envision including artists, healers, legal/political experts, but the one that caught my attention was koa (warriors). I did not get to the group part because the speeches went on too long, but supposedly the group had active and retired military as well as police officers among its members which means they also took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States.

So far the Aloha Aina party has not taken a public stance on gun control, but that will probably change soon now that they are expected to become a bona-fide Hawaii political party next week.
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: Kuleana on March 05, 2020, 04:42:20 PM
I am not doing it for charity. I just want to start a conversation with some book-smart kanakas and find out what we agree on.

Book-Smart Kanakas?

I wish there were more.  What do you want to know?   :wave:
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: hvybarrels on March 05, 2020, 09:35:07 PM
Book-Smart Kanakas?

I wish there were more.  What do you want to know?   :wave:

Oooh I got a question. Does anything in my previous post sound inaccurate?
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: astroboy on March 06, 2020, 09:47:00 AM
I ordered a shirt. Mahalo 67 for your efforts.
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: groveler on March 06, 2020, 11:58:57 AM
Oooh I got a question. Does anything in my previous post sound inaccurate?
The only thing I noticed was you missed that all military members take an oath
to uphold the constitution in addition to other responsibilities,
that oath does not have an end date. 
At least marriage vows have an end date.
My wife hasn't killed me yet so I'm still married.

Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: Kuleana on March 07, 2020, 07:00:29 PM
"I am guessing a lot of them do have guns but they do not register them because of mistrust issues with the government."

Many Hawaiians are proud gun owners for more or less the reasons as anyone else.  There are anti-gunners and for the same liberal reasons as well.



"The more wealthy university-connected ones tend to lean more liberal since that is where their bread gets buttered with scholarships, grants, govt programs, etc."

Very accurate point, as most academic-types are brainwashed with the same liberal and anti-guns propaganda.



"It is a very large generalization but basically FedRec separated out the two camps with the University Liberals realizing they could get a huge payday while the more purist Hawaiian nationals would never exchange their legal options for a handout."

Very accurate assessment and important point to make.

The US Government's attempt in duping the Hawaiians with "FedRec" to address their illegal annexation of Hawaii in 1898 and allow Hawaiians to assent and be given the same treatment as any Native American Tribe was vigorously supported by OHA, Hawaiian academic liberals, and the like in order to hoard more money to themselves and their cronies, while leaving the majority of Hawaiians to their own devices.



"It seems one of the major reasons Aloha Aina party was founded was to let the purist group know that it is right and necessary to engage in Babylon politics without selling out."

From my own conversations with the Aloha Aina party members, I recognize their position to play both sides and see the logic of their wanting to participate in the political process to better the social-economic situation of Hawaiians.  In the long-term, the money powers that ultimately control/influence the actions of both the Republican and Democrat spectrum will eventually undermine their efforts or work to their demise from within.  However, in the short-term, I do agree that Hawaiians can achieve some local victories; protecting the 2nd Amendment being one of them.



"I went to a meeting with them a few years ago and there were some crazies (one pseudo-lawyer chick really stood out),  but most realize that things can never go back to the way they were and their survival means inclusion."

I agree; there are a few number of crazies that compose that party.

A question though: What do you mean by "most realize that things can never go back to the way they were and their survival means inclusion?"



"So far the Aloha Aina party has not taken a public stance on gun control, but that will probably change soon now that they are expected to become a bona-fide Hawaii political party next week."

I have not spoke to any party members recently, but I hope they support the 2nd Amendment.   :shaka:
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: Glasser on March 08, 2020, 06:38:36 PM
in for 1, who doesnt love a subversive T-Shirt.
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: oldfart on April 04, 2020, 03:02:50 PM
I got my 2 shirts yesterday.
The shirt material seems thin, but looks nice.
I'm washing them now to see how much they shrink.
If they shrink too much, I will be forced to lose weight! :rofl:

A win-win all around.
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 04, 2020, 06:33:38 PM
I got my 2 shirts yesterday.
The shirt material seems thin, but looks nice.
I'm washing them now to see how much they shrink.
If they shrink too much, I will be forced to lose weight! :rofl:

A win-win all around.

T-shirts are supposed to make good mask material.

FYI.   :geekdanc:
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: oldfart on April 04, 2020, 07:02:42 PM
T-shirts are supposed to make good mask material.

FYI.   :geekdanc:
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How about a used bra from a hot chick? better, eh?
(https://i.postimg.cc/0zBLZBDv/Gas-mask-bra-available-online.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0zBLZBDv)
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: oldfart on April 05, 2020, 11:44:15 AM
Update...
After washing and drying, it looks like they did not shrink.
The material may be thin but extremely soft and comfortable.
I'm going to enjoy wearing these to work!
Thank you 671!
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: 6716J on April 06, 2020, 03:53:58 PM
Update...
After washing and drying, it looks like they did not shrink.
The material may be thin but extremely soft and comfortable.
I'm going to enjoy wearing these to work!
Thank you 671!

Glad you like!!!
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: 6716J on April 13, 2020, 09:58:10 AM
Raised $78.58 after the cost of the shirts.

Money sent on over to HiFiCo

Mahalos to you guys for supporting
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: oldfart on April 13, 2020, 10:27:04 AM
Raised $78.58 after the cost of the shirts.

Money sent on over to HiFiCo

Mahalos to you guys for supporting
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It's really soft and comfortable :thumbsup:
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Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: Glasser on April 14, 2020, 07:17:52 PM
Got mine, spiffy shirt. I did notice not every color was 100% cotton. I got the dark Gray because it was all cotton, the thinner gauge fabric is the new thing in Ts its seems. Comfy and quality of the printing was good. 
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: Heavies on April 14, 2020, 08:03:41 PM
Got mine too last week. Looks great
Title: Re: FUNDRAISING
Post by: dwela on April 19, 2020, 03:50:23 AM
You should print one with the second ammendment in Hawaiian.  I’ve seen it translated before online.