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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: changemyoil66 on March 17, 2020, 09:04:00 AM
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So in CA, more Asians are buying guns because they're being targeted due to CV. We all know CA is 2a friendly. Other cities like Vegas has empty shelves of ammo and guns.
So thoughts on anti 2a people buying guns now? Is it an opportunity to show them the light? Or do you think they will revert back to being anti 2a once the hysteria is over? I'm not talking about people who have never thought about it before, but those who say assault rilfes and mag limits are needed to save the children type of attitude (MDA).
A few hurricanes ago, I had a friend buy his first AR after I asked him how he will protect all his supplies if people get nuts. He never thought about it until I brought it up. So he's not anti 2a, just never thought about it. But his mom is a pink hatter. Like she went to DC to march with them. He didn't tell her he bought an AR.
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Everyone should track, ask, and monitor how many local and national democratic government officials as well as registered democrats have exercised their 2nd Amendment Rights since January in lieu of Covid-19.
Everyone should post pictures if anyone of them is seen shopping at gun stores.
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People don't know what they don't know. That is very much true for the anti-2a folks with their head in the sand (or other dark hole) with their utopian view of the world.
Personally, anyone who is interested in being a reponsible firearms owner is :thumbsup: I met a few folks recently that were getting their affidavit because there were some violent break-ins in their neighborhood recently and "shit was getting real" for them. They were looking to buy a handgun and were getting training as well, so :geekdanc:
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LOL "other dark hole" :rofl:
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The more people who go through the hassle of the application process, the less likely we are to hear arguments that keep beating the "Loopholes Everywhere!" drum. Being a gun owner in this state is a serious undertaking and requires wading through fetid bureaucratic swamps that were designed to scare away people from exercising their rights.
I imagine some antis would be shocked to find out that they have to wait weeks and make multiple trips during frustratingly narrow hours to pick up stuff at a window that might be shut down by emergency proclamation at any time.
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STUPID! :wacko:
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Get what you want NOW, before legislative changes! I just bought a M1A SOCOM 16 and ordering a G19 Gen 5 MOS and that's all I want to complete my gun purchases for as long as I still live in Hawaii. I splurged on a Sig MCX Virtus and das ist alles.
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The more people who go through the hassle of the application process, the less likely we are to hear arguments that keep beating the "Loopholes Everywhere!" drum. Being a gun owner in this state is a serious undertaking and requires wading through fetid bureaucratic swamps that were designed to scare away people from exercising their rights.
I imagine some antis would be shocked to find out that they have to wait weeks and make multiple trips during frustratingly narrow hours to pick up stuff at a window that might be shut down by emergency proclamation at any time.
Plus handgun safety class.
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The more people who go through the hassle of the application process, the less likely we are to hear arguments that keep beating the "Loopholes Everywhere!" drum. Being a gun owner in this state is a serious undertaking and requires wading through fetid bureaucratic swamps that were designed to scare away people from exercising their rights.
I imagine some antis would be shocked to find out that they have to wait weeks and make multiple trips during frustratingly narrow hours to pick up stuff at a window that might be shut down by emergency proclamation at any time.
Or that they can't just buy a gun online and have it delivered to their door.
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Or that they can't just buy a gun online and have it delivered to their door.
Too bad they just missed the recent “gun show” loophole where they could have bought anything they wanted without a background check. :D
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Or that they can't just buy a gun online and have it delivered to their door.
it's easier to get a Glock than a book...
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it's easier to get a Glock than a book...
Took a month for me to get a library card back in 1985.....
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it's easier to get a Glock than a book...
Says HK fanboi #1 :rofl:
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Stuebs (in Hilo) had only birdshot and a few forlorn cases of .45ACP when I was there yesterday. And about half of the guns were gone. Folks must have applied for permits before The Donald admitted that we might have a problem....
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In regards to these new gun owners, it can definetly go very wrong. Some of these panic buyers are the same people who hate/fear guns due to their own instability/insecurities. They didnt want us to own guns becuase in their minds they would act irrationalally if wronged. They're narcissistic and unstable and dont realize that that isnt normal, hence their fear or hatred of firearms.
Or... im just being a snobbish prick and this could help our cause, in my opinion its a coin toss.
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In regards to these new gun owners, it can definetly go very wrong. Some of these panic buyers are the same people who hate/fear guns due to their own instability/insecurities. They didnt want us to own guns becuase in their minds they would act irrationalally if wronged. They're narcissistic and unstable and dont realize that that isnt normal, hence their fear or hatred of firearms.
Or... im just being a snobbish prick and this could help our cause, in my opinion its a coin toss.
There is truth to that. If they do something wrong (like shooting someone or themselves), we can only hope their social media can be found that shows old post about their anti 2a protest. Like that mom who killed her kids who was a lesbo, the youtube building shooter, etc...
But there are some who really never felt the need for a firearm, but didn't hate the 2a. So gun stores nation wide should ask 1) if this is their 1st gun & 2) thoughts on assault rifles with 30 clip magazines.
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So gun stores nation wide should ask 1) if this is their 1st gun & 2) thoughts on assault rifles with 30 clip magazines.
That is a great idea. Save the guns for people who were not actively trying to take away gun rights. It is not like they will miss out on a sale during a gun panic.
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That is a great idea. Save the guns for people who were not actively trying to take away gun rights. It is not like they will miss out on a sale during a gun panic.
Exactlly and ammo. Because I bet once this scare is over, they will still feel the same way. Maybe some might change their thoughts, but not enough. I rather the people who don't protest get their 1st firearms.
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That is a great idea. Save the guns for people who were not actively trying to take away gun rights. It is not like they will miss out on a sale during a gun panic.
The thing about human rights is they exist whether or not the individual works to end them.
Perhaps a new mental disorder -- "Snowflake Syndrome?" -- to prohibit ownership and possession?
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first-time gun buyers are probably in a bad predicament. they will have a difficult time finding ammo for their gun and any ammo they do find will be very expensive. because the ammo is expensive, they will probably buy very little and practice/shoot very little.
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The thing about human rights is they exist whether or not the individual works to end them.
Perhaps a new mental disorder -- "Snowflake Syndrome?" -- to prohibit ownership and possession?
But these people don't believe in them, so g2g. :crazy:
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I grew up with guns.
My military gun training was a Joke.
I was required to qualify as a Security policeman
with no instruction, I passed. Repeatedly.
I was not a security policeman.
My BIL was a USMC rifle instructor.
He taught me a few things.
If you aren't comfortable with guns, like they are
your car keys/fob, your wallet, your clothes,
your tooth brush, that is a panic buy.
Hopefully these people get comfortable
with their tools.
That is all a gun is, a tool.
We need tools to protect us from Democrats
and their fear.
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My nephew just came back from a LGS in Phoenix. He said the walls are bare. They have a few not so common handgun and rifle caliber ammo in stock. But the more common calibers are gone. He said they had a very small amount of .22 ammo left. Only a few FN handguns and no other handguns. A Brownells retro AR, a Bren, and a few bolt actions. This shop does not sell reloading gear or supplies.
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Stopped by SEC today around 10 am. Line was out the door, one guy exited with 2k 9mm. I didn't bother to wait in line.
Drove by HPD 2x, 20-30 people lined up outside the permit application side.
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Situation in Vegas gun store Spartan Arms.
https://youtu.be/sFnT_-sEj9I
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All this is just crazy.... :shake: :crazy: :wtf:
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I grew up with guns.
My military gun training was a Joke.
I was required to qualify as a Security policeman
with no instruction, I passed. Repeatedly.
I was not a security policeman.
My BIL was a USMC rifle instructor.
He taught me a few things.
If you aren't comfortable with guns, like they are
your car keys/fob, your wallet, your clothes,
your tooth brush, that is a panic buy.
Hopefully these people get comfortable
with their tools.
That is all a gun is, a tool.
We need tools to protect us from Democrats
and their fear.
I grew up around guns as well. My father bought his first gun right after (or possibly during) the Watts Riots. That was 1965. It was a 1911 style in .45 ACP. It was too much for me and my father. He traded it for one of the new “Wonder Nines” that was making the rounds. He bought a High Standard .22 Duramatic semi auto as well. While I liked shooting the 9, I took over that High Standard Duramatic. It was mine. I cherished that gun. I shot it, cleaned it and wiped off every fingerprint that got on it. It was not a true High Standard design and was their bottom line cheap entry level pistol. After a while my father traded it in and bought a real High Standard target pistol. We fought and battled over that pistol but my father always won. Around 1969 or 70 I got into 50 foot .22 bolt action single shot NRA competitions. A great NRA program for the kids that taught safety, and proper technique. And I competed and I qualified for Expert. I had all the medals and patches and I had a special jacket with all my hardware and patches hanging on it. That was around 1972 and I saved my allowance and bought the Anschutz that I still own to this day. I basically lost interest in pistols and competed with my rifle until I turned 18 and I bought my first pistol. So I have been around guns and shot regularly since 1965.
While I am not quite as biased as you are towards Democrats I understand completely where you are coming from. If you asked me 10 years ago we could always find common ground with out Democrat brothers. Even in the 2A arena. But not now things have changed a lot and I don’t see much in common anymore. BTW, they claim we have moved farther to the right as much as they have moved farther to the left. But I don’t see it.
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Stopped by SEC today around 10 am. Line was out the door, one guy exited with 2k 9mm. I didn't bother to wait in line.
Drove by HPD 2x, 20-30 people lined up outside the permit application side.
A buddy went around noon and he said he saw one guy buy 4 cases each of 9, 40, 45, and 223. . . :o
Which one of you was it? ??? :rofl:
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Stuebs (in Hilo) had only birdshot and a few forlorn cases of .45ACP when I was there yesterday. And about half of the guns were gone. Folks must have applied for permits before The Donald admitted that we might have a problem....
I was there yesterday as well. I’m sure glad not to many reloaders here. Got myself some primers and bullet heads. Good to go!
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I grew up around guns as well. My father bought his first gun right after (or possibly during) the Watts Riots. That was 1965. It was a 1911 style in .45 ACP. It was too much for me and my father. He traded it for one of the new “Wonder Nines” that was making the rounds. He bought a High Standard .22 Duramatic semi auto as well. While I liked shooting the 9, I took over that High Standard Duramatic. It was mine. I cherished that gun. I shot it, cleaned it and wiped off every fingerprint that got on it. It was not a true High Standard design and was their bottom line cheap entry level pistol. After a while my father traded it in and bought a real High Standard target pistol. We fought and battled over that pistol but my father always won. Around 1969 or 70 I got into 50 foot .22 bolt action single shot NRA competitions. A great NRA program for the kids that taught safety, and proper technique. And I competed and I qualified for Expert. I had all the medals and patches and I had a special jacket with all my hardware and patches hanging on it. That was around 1972 and I saved my allowance and bought the Anschutz that I still own to this day. I basically lost interest in pistols and competed with my rifle until I turned 18 and I bought my first pistol. So I have been around guns and shot regularly since 1965.
While I am not quite as biased as you are towards Democrats I understand completely where you are coming from. If you asked me 10 years ago we could always find common ground with out Democrat brothers. Even in the 2A arena. But not now things have changed a lot and I don’t see much in common anymore. BTW, they claim we have moved farther to the right as much as they have moved farther to the left. But I don’t see it.
Since you and I basically grew up in the same neighborhood perhaps a few years apart.
My first experience with a pistol was at the Long Beach CA police range.
Dad had bought a 45 ACP 1943 Rand Corp USA issue.
My older brothers shot after Dad did. My brother Dave got nailed in the forehead by the recoil.
( wasn't a very gun savy guy)
I nailed it. I was 8 yrs old at the time.
How many 8 year olds get to shoot a M1911A1 at the range these days?
The gun is in storage in Idaho, but I still own it.
EFF you HPD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for the riots we lived through,
In my case we all went to Grandpa's house.
There was a rifle at every window.
Grandpa had a very complete
reloading set up in the garage.
There were probably thousands more homes
and families like ours
in the general area.
I used to ride my bicycle into Watts.
I lived that close.
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How difficult is it to sell a long gun in Hawaii? Do I actually have to go down to HPD (dont really want to) or can I just send the buyer? The panic is red hot and some extra cash sure would come in handy.
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Since you and I basically grew up in the same neighborhood perhaps a few years apart.
My first experience with a pistol was at the Long Beach CA police range.
Dad had bought a 45 ACP 1943 Rand Corp USA issue.
My older brothers shot after Dad did. My brother Dave got nailed in the forehead by the recoil.
( wasn't a very gun savy guy)
I nailed it. I was 8 yrs old at the time.
How many 8 year olds get to shoot a M1911A1 at the range these days?
The gun is in storage in Idaho, but I still own it.
EFF you HPD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for the riots we lived through,
In my case we all went to Grandpa's house.
There was a rifle at every window.
Grandpa had a very complete
reloading set up in the garage.
There were probably thousands more homes
and families like ours
in the general area.
I used to ride my bicycle into Watts.
I lived that close.
We didn’t have that 1911 for very long. I have no idea what it was. I just remember I was still kinda small and probably too young and it was more than I wanted to shoot.
We lived only 10 minutes from the LB Police Range so that is where we shot most of the time. The NRA program I told you about was run as a collaboration between the NRA and LBPD. We shot at the same range where the LBPD trained and shot. In that grassy area right behind that big metal plate with all the holes in it. We constantly heard escaped bullets flying overhead. :shake: My father learned to reload and taught me. My father was careless but he never had a problem except a few primers turned around.
I’ll never forget the fear in my father’s eyes during the Watts Riots. He felt helpless and so did I. When we heard gunshots from cars driving down our street he had my mom and I lay on the floor and my mom had me crawl under her bed. :rofl: Being under her bed was not going to protect me from bullets coming through the walls.
I used to ride my bike into downtown LB and to the Pike. I also used to ride to that hobby shop on Bellflower Blvd. Used to be all trains. Bob’s was it?
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How difficult is it to sell a long gun in Hawaii? Do I actually have to go down to HPD (dont really want to) or can I just send the buyer? The panic is red hot and some extra cash sure would come in handy.
You don't have to be present at HPD when the buyer registers the long gun he purchased from you.
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Perhaps a new mental disorder -- "Snowflake Syndrome?" -- to prohibit ownership and possession?
“FlappMauidogDarmokMoosed syndrome” ? :geekdanc:
How difficult is it to sell a long gun in Hawaii? Do I actually have to go down to HPD (dont really want to) or can I just send the buyer? The panic is red hot and some extra cash sure would come in handy.
What Dogman said just get a receipt. Let us know if you need a transfer form.
or search the forum. They’ve been posted before.
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How difficult is it to sell a long gun in Hawaii? Do I actually have to go down to HPD (dont really want to) or can I just send the buyer? The panic is red hot and some extra cash sure would come in handy.
Keep your guns. :love:
Ammo is at a premium, you probably have 1,000's, no need HPD or paperwork and it's harder to find than a gun.
I've seen M855 @ almost $1.00 per round. :o
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Keep your guns. :love:
Ammo is at a premium, you probably have 1,000's, no need HPD or paperwork and it's harder to find than a gun.
I've seen M855 @ almost $1.00 per round. :o
Damn! I better dig up my stash. . . anyone needs 855? :hmm:
Regarding panic buying of guns, I thought it wasn't far when the run on food (after TP) started when restrictions and closures started coming down. Didn't think I would see it quite this severe, but that's how it seems like everything is going with CV. Personally, my close friends are quite well prepared and aren't the ones losing their minds over this.
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People were lined up at Young Guns yesterday. because they're limiting the number of people inside the store to allow for social distancing.
Mahalo to the Hawaii Historic Arms Association for going ahead with last weekend's gun show. Otherwise, even more people would be desperately seeking guns and ammo.
Condolences to owners of new guns who were hoping to break or zero them in at Koko Head. I share your pain.
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As for the riots we lived through,
In my case we all went to Grandpa's house.
There was a rifle at every window.
I used to ride my bicycle into Watts.
I lived that close.
Had a girlfriend going to Pepperdine 1967. You had to travel through a rather "ethnic" area to get there. At night, groups of "yutes" at most corners,. Kept a .357 Derringer between the seats, but the aspiring Mensa candidatess just glared at the white boy if I had to stop at a light.
I did not like going into that jungle, easy to see why they moved the school to Malibu.
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Keep your guns. :love:
Ammo is at a premium, you probably have 1,000's, no need HPD or paperwork and it's harder to find than a gun.
I've seen M855 @ almost $1.00 per round. :o
Can someone educate me on M885? I goggled, but want to be sure I got the right info. M855 would be most beneficial for penetrating objects at distance. Like a tree, glass, door, etc... M193 has a higher velocity and can penetrate Lvl 3 hard armor. But if having to go through an object first, it fragments. Where as 855 will be stopped by lvl3 all day (per youtube vids I saw). So a lvl 4 armor will stop m193, but lvl 3 wont.
So if I don't plan on engaging anything past 50 feet, M855 is not needed as much.
Cliff notes please.
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If you didn't have guns and ammo before the start of the year, it is rather late to get started.
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Almost always...
If you feel you Need/Want guns and ammo due to a current situation and don’t have any, it’s a little late to get started.
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People were lined up at Young Guns yesterday. because they're limiting the number of people inside the store to allow for social distancing.
Mahalo to the Hawaii Historic Arms Association for going ahead with last weekend's gun show. Otherwise, even more people would be desperately seeking guns and ammo.
Condolences to owners of new guns who were hoping to break or zero them in at Koko Head. I share your pain.
You only really need a 25m zero.
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You only really need a 25m zero.
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Bore sighting should be close enough. If possible, you can rest the firearm on a stable surface, align a "target" centered in the barrel (if you can look through it), and then adjust the sights onto the target -- without moving the firearm! (goes without saying, but you know how that goes!). If the target (dot on the wall) lines up centered in the bore and in the sights simultaneously, it's good enough.
If you can't see through the barrel, you can use a laser bore sight. Plenty of people on here have them if you need to borrow.
Still, you need to practice with live ammo to learn how it handles and ensure it functions 100%. Firearms have been known to be sold with problems, both new and used.
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Bore sighting should be close enough. If possible, you can rest the firearm on a stable surface, align a "target" centered in the barrel (if you can look through it), and then adjust the sights onto the target -- without moving the firearm! (goes without saying, but you know how that goes!). If the target (dot on the wall) lines up centered in the bore and in the sights simultaneously, it's good enough.
If you can't see through the barrel, you can use a laser bore sight. Plenty of people on here have them if you need to borrow.
Still, you need to practice with live ammo to learn how it handles and ensure it functions 100%. Firearms have been known to be sold with problems, both new and used.
Drawing and dry firing is something new and seasoned shooters can do at home and do it enough to get very proficient at without any ammo.
At the range you can do low round drills, practicing from a low ready, present and I use the multiple circle targets, put two shots in one circle and 1 shot in the next circle with a timer and work on getting the splits down to sub 1 sec with accurate shot placements. With one mag you can do 30 reps.
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You don't have to be present at HPD when the buyer registers the long gun he purchased from you.
It's theoretically possible the "buyer" doesn't register the gun in his name and does something using a gun still in you name, right?
I heard that's why we MUST be present to ENSURE the ownership transfer is done.
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It's theoretically possible the "buyer" doesn't register the gun in his name and does something using a gun still in you name, right?
I heard that's why we MUST be present to ENSURE the ownership transfer is done.
As a seller, you do not need to be present at HPD.
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It's theoretically possible the "buyer" doesn't register the gun in his name and does something using a gun still in you name, right?
I heard that's why we MUST be present to ENSURE the ownership transfer is done.
Theoretically you need need to notify HPD within 10 (?) days of selling a gun. (Like selling a car)
Hence the receipt with the buyers info and permit #.
Don’t need to be present.
I once went into HPD while registering a firearm and had a bunch of receipts from guns I sold a while before and asked Del Prado (tall bald guy with sense of humor) to check to make sure they were all registered by the new owners.
Del Prado gave me gas, but he checked and confirmed.
I miss the the old window gang.
I only sold to members of this forum who had multiple posts.
Edit: corrected By Flapp. It’s within 2 days. See below for cite by Flapp.
I was too lazy to look up the actual time frame Hence the question mark.
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Was at HPD registering a pistol today. The officer at the window said 90% of all the applicants in the last 2 weeks were first time buyers. :shake:
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Theoretically you need need to notify HPD within 10 (?) days of selling a gun. (Like selling a car)
Hence the receipt with the buyers info and permit #.
Don’t need to be present.
I once went into HPD while registering a firearm and had a bunch of receipts from guns I sold a while before and asked Del Prado (tall bald guy with sense of humor) to check to make sure they were all registered by the new owners.
Del Prado gave me gas, but he checked and confirmed.
I miss the the old window gang.
I only sold to members of this forum who had multiple posts.
Is there such a law?
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Is there such a law?
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Sort of. It's not 10 days. It's 48 hours.
§134-2 Permits to acquire.
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[handguns:] The person who is transferring title to the firearm shall sign the permit in ink and cause the permit to be delivered or sent by registered mail to the issuing authority within forty-eight hours after transferring the firearm.
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In all cases where a rifle or shotgun is acquired from another person within the State, the person who is transferring title to the rifle or shotgun shall submit, within forty-eight hours after transferring the firearm, to the authority that issued the permit to acquire, the following information, in writing: name of the person who transferred the firearm, name of the person to whom the title to the firearm was transferred; names of the manufacturer and importer; model; type of action; caliber or gauge; and serial number, as applicable.
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0002.htm
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Was at HPD registering a pistol today. The officer at the window said 90% of all the applicants in the last 2 weeks were first time buyers. :shake:
Sweet, that means there’ll be a lot of cheap guns once this thing blows over. ;D
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Who is this Corona Virus? The best gun salesman since Obama?
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Sweet, that means there’ll be a lot of cheap guns once this thing blows over. ;D
Got me thinking of all of the guns that I saw on the LGS' shelved maybe 2-3 weeks ago. I've been wanting a Glock 21 for a while :hmm:
It will be interesting on how things will be once this stuff blows over. It seems to be that new guy buyers tend to overestimate the value of their guns and other gear. But I could see those who are hurting $$$-wise and will just want cash ASAP.
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Who is this Corona Virus? The best gun salesman since Obama?
Best salesmen of just about everything. There are some items that I'm seeing low or out of stock that I wouldn't think people would stock up on, ever.
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had a coworker last week ask me about getting a firearm. previously his wife gave him the veto, but all the stuff now, she changed her mind. but he has no clue of how to get one, so I explained the process and he said something to the tune of, "wow, I didn't know was that hard to get a firearm."
another friend that wasn't really an AR guy now asks me if I can build one for him bc now he feels he needs something that's more defensive
I remember I wasn't really an AR guy until the Obama scare, then I bought an AR and 3 lowers in a panic buy. but turns out now I like building AR's :D
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had a coworker last week ask me about getting a firearm. previously his wife gave him the veto, but all the stuff now, she changed her mind. but he has no clue of how to get one, so I explained the process and he said something to the tune of, "wow, I didn't know was that hard to get a firearm."
another friend that wasn't really an AR guy now asks me if I can build one for him bc now he feels he needs something that's more defensive
I remember I wasn't really an AR guy until the Obama scare, then I bought an AR and 3 lowers in a panic buy. but turns out now I like building AR's :D
I've had a few folks who have reached out to me regarding interest in firearms, but none who have asked about buying one.
One good friend, whose wife is rabidly against guns, which of course means he can't own one, actually took the class a while back, but never bought a handgun. Now he and a couple of chicks that we hang out with here and there all want to go shooting. One of the chicks mentioned that she's afraid of guns, but mentioned that she's now down to try. I am hoping a silver lining of recent events have people waking up to realities that many of us are already aware of.
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chicks O0
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I've had a few folks who have reached out to me regarding interest in firearms, but none who have asked about buying one.
One good friend, whose wife is rabidly against guns, which of course means he can't own one, actually took the class a while back, but never bought a handgun. Now he and a couple of chicks that we hang out with here and there all want to go shooting. One of the chicks mentioned that she's afraid of guns, but mentioned that she's now down to try. I am hoping a silver lining of recent events have people waking up to realities that many of us are already aware of.
better show those chicks your Python. :shaka:
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better show those chicks your Python. :shaka:
Who says I didn't? 8)
I mean it is something to behold. Very impressive and a true work of art. Being an older model. . . wait, which Python you taking about? ???
:rofl:
One is my buddy's side chick. Well, they are each other's side things. The other chick is her HS BFF. She, uh, has a nice personality. Haha. Nah, she's decently cute. Will have to see how she handles my Python. :shake: :rofl:
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Sort of. It's not 10 days. It's 48 hours.
§134-2 Permits to acquire.
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0002.htm
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So its not the sellers duty to check if the buys has a permit to acquire? Its the buyers problem if they dont have one.
I remember when adding the wifes name to the pistols, she had to sign the back of my handgun specific permit to acquire. I wonder if hpd would let u take that from the station?
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So its not the sellers duty to check if the buys has a permit to acquire? Its the buyers problem if they dont have one.
I remember when adding the wifes name to the pistols, she had to sign the back of my handgun specific permit to acquire. I wonder if hpd would let u take that from the station?
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Since the seller has to notify HPD of the transfer, it's not like the seller can say "I don't know who he was. Just some guy I met at the range. He paid me cash, and I gave him the gun."
You need his name to notify HPD. Most responsible gun owners will ask for ID to verify (1) age, and (2) state of residence. Since there are laws against selling to underage and out-of-state people, you can't pretend you have zero interest in verifying the bare minimum requirements are being met.
As for handgun permits, you're require to sign the back. So you'll be verifying it exists if you are following your requirements.
For long guns, if you're comfortable selling a firearm to a stranger who doesn't produce his valid permit, I'm sure HPD will find you soon enough if the weapon ever finds its way to the evidence locker. Roll dem dice! :geekdanc: I don't see any penalties for failing to verify the long gun permit, but I can see them making your life hell thinking you must have been the perp since the gun was last registered to you.
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Who says I didn't? 8)
I mean it is something to behold. Very impressive and a true work of art. Being an older model. . . wait, which Python you taking about? ???
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One is my buddy's side chick. Well, they are each other's side things. The other chick is her HS BFF. She, uh, has a nice personality. Haha. Nah, she's decently cute. Will have to see how she handles my Python. :shake: :rofl:
If she handles the Python, then show her the Anaconda :D
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Who says I didn't? 8)
She, uh, has a nice personality. Haha. Nah, she's decently cute. Will have to see how she handles my Python. :shake: :rofl:
butterface? :thumbsup:
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You need his name to notify HPD. Most responsible gun owners will ask for ID to verify (1) age, and (2) state of residence. Since there are laws against selling to underage and out-of-state people, you can't pretend you have zero interest in verifying the bare minimum requirements are being met.
This could come into play too. As written, it doesn't require the seller to have knowingly or intentionally give false information.
§134-17 Penalties. (a) If any person gives false information or offers false evidence of the person's identity in complying with any of the requirements of this part, that person shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, provided, however that if any person intentionally gives false information or offers false evidence concerning their psychiatric or criminal history in complying with any of the requirements of this part, that person shall be guilty of a class C felony.
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If she handles the Python, then show her the Anaconda :D
;)
Think we'll be starting with .22 first. . . ;D :rofl:
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Think we'll be starting with .22 first. . . ;D :rofl:
that's how it all starts....
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that's how it all starts....
Just the tip...
Heads
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For long guns, if you're comfortable selling a firearm to a stranger who doesn't produce his valid permit, I'm sure HPD will find you soon enough if the weapon ever finds its way to the evidence locker. Roll dem dice! :geekdanc: I don't see any penalties for failing to verify the long gun permit, but I can see them making your life hell thinking you must have been the perp since the gun was last registered to you.
Exactly. Long gun or short gun or Python, I would rather sell on gunbroker with all the paperwork for FFL transfer to the mainland.
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Then there's this celebrity Libtard's view on gun buying in the pandemic ...
https://youtu.be/sYkzTENpzhw
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Then there's this celebrity Libtard's view on gun buying in the pandemic ...
https://youtu.be/sYkzTENpzhw
It's funny in other videos this idiot has armed gaurds. Admitted to having mental illness. And has said that she has firearms for self protection. So I'm pretty sure she d.q'd from owning any. Probably registered under her cuck husband. :wtf:
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Then there's this celebrity Libtard's view on gun buying in the pandemic ...
https://youtu.be/sYkzTENpzhw
Oh it's even worse...
https://youtu.be/dFQIps07HPQ
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AM was drool-worthy when I was in intermediate school. Too bad she's batshit crazy. Too much nose candy. . .
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AM was drool-worthy when I was in intermediate school. Too bad she's batshit crazy. Too much nose candy. . .
Keep seeing that name, still no idea who it is, or why anyone cares about her thoughts.
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Keep seeing that name, still no idea who it is, or why anyone cares about her thoughts.
Her thoughts were never on my radar... Maybe a different word starting with the letter T... :o
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Keep seeing that name, still no idea who it is, or why anyone cares about her thoughts.
She was on whos the boss. And commando.
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She was on whos the boss. And commando.
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Also played "Phoebes" in the series Charmed.
I can honestly say I completely evaded that series, having watched zero seconds of a single episode. :thumbsup:
https://charmed.fandom.com/wiki/Phoebe_Halliwell
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Also played "Phoebes" in the series Charmed.
I can honestly say I completely evaded that series, having watched zero seconds of a single episode. :thumbsup:
https://charmed.fandom.com/wiki/Phoebe_Halliwell
A.M's turn in the poison ivy series of movies was good. I believe she was #2 >:D
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If we could post noods :worship:
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A.M's turn in the poison ivy series of movies was good. I believe she was #2 >:D
Oh yeah. I remember the first Poison Ivy. That and Fear.
That said, wimmenz like her are all crazay! :crazy:
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Also played "Phoebes" in the series Charmed.
I can honestly say I completely evaded that series, having watched zero seconds of a single episode. :thumbsup:
Ah, television yet again. I have such a cultural hole in my life it seems.
I confess to Magnum P.I. and Miami Vice back in the day. Justified and The Americans in recent years.
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Ah, television yet again. I have such a cultural hole in my life it seems.
I confess to Magnum P.I. and Miami Vice back in the day. Justified and The Americans in recent years.
I've never followed pop culture as closely as the celebs want us all to. Probably because I learned very early in life that those people and the things they do have ZERO IMPACT in any aspect of my life.
The closest they ever came to influencing my decisions was when I took a date, or went with a group of friends, to a movie. Of course, it was the venue that mattered more than the movie itself.
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Ah, television yet again. I have such a cultural hole in my life it seems.
I confess to Magnum P.I. and Miami Vice back in the day. Justified and The Americans in recent years.
I watched and enjoyed both of those shows. Good stuff. :thumbsup:
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those people and the things they do have ZERO IMPACT in any aspect of my life.
SURPRISE ! :D
https://www.opposingviews.com/category/nra-releases-list-celebrities-organizations-support-gun-control
https://gunowners.org/fs0302/
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SURPRISE ! :D
https://www.opposingviews.com/category/nra-releases-list-celebrities-organizations-support-gun-control
https://gunowners.org/fs0302/
Okay, their propaganda, ideological BS and big money have an impact on politics and policies. But, as far as my personal life is concerned, those are just speed bumps and annoyances.
For now ....
Maybe they could spend a little of their extra cash on fixing the homeless epidemic and preventing crimes in their own cities. You know .... REAL problems.....