2aHawaii
General Topics => Off Topic => Topic started by: Brystont1 on April 16, 2020, 07:42:02 PM
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This state is broken. I hate to be “one of those people” that flee a state rather then stand and try to change the laws but I just see no light at the end of the tunnel. People here, especially Hawaiians, don’t give a crap about politics. This allows politicians to run unelected and propose and enforce crappy policies. I don’t see myself living here much longer.
With that being said, what state, if you had to, would you guys go to? I’d love to go to Wyoming. Clean air, secluded, unreal hunting and fishing, lax gun laws, just to name a few things. Frigid winters is the only thing stopping me. How about you guys?
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Arizona. Before I came back home, I was living in Cali, but hanging out in AZ once a month (at least). I like it there, even in the summer!
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For me, NV. I have friends and a daughter and 3 grandkids in Vegas. AZ would be my 2nd choice. Got some friends in Kingman and Phoenix.
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AZ
bunch of oppressed, distressed people hating the govt but keep voting or no vote the same politicians every time
wah wah I hate the USA but I love dem welfare chks! gotta buy me some fat bracelets bling bling
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AZ
bunch of oppressed, distressed people hating the govt but keep voting or no vote the same politicians every time
wah wah I hate the USA but I love dem welfare chks! gotta buy me some fat bracelets bling bling
If you feel so distressed about your Hawaiian, local, and Democratic Party voting neighbors, why don't you just leave?
No one is forcing you to live a distressed filled life in Hawaii.
Better yet, why don't you go OHA or to Governor Ige's office, exercise your 1st Amendment rights, and let your feeling be known. :shaka:
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If you feel so distressed about your Hawaiian, local, and Democratic Party voting neighbors, why don't you just leave?
No one is forcing you to live a distressed filled life in Hawaii.
Better yet, why don't you go OHA or to Governor Ige's office, exercise your 1st Amendment rights, and let your feeling be known. :shaka:
that's a lot of ASSumptions you made Brother Numsie. Where did I mention anything about race or party?
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that's a lot of ASSumptions you made Brother Numsie. Where did I mention anything about race or party?
Well, let's take a look at what you posted and what meaning it inferred.
bunch of oppressed, distressed people hating the govt but keep voting or no vote the same politicians every time
The only group in Hawaii who are in distress due to the illegal occupation by the US is the Hawaiians. When you reference people who "keep voting or no vote the same politicians every time", the groups of people that could possibly fit the bill are Hawaiians, locals, or residents that consistently vote Democrat.
wah wah I hate the USA but I love dem welfare chks! gotta buy me some fat bracelets bling bling
The only group in Hawaii that has some reason to hate the US and whose population has quite large number who are on welfare are the Hawaiians, once again,
If not the groups I listed, what other groups of people are you referring?
Please tell, I would love to join in the bashing. :shaka:
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Been scouting Arizona for some time. Have a few relatives there and not unfamiliar territory.
They need help from all the democrats recently infesting the place.
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I've tossed the idea around of moving to TX with some buddies that live there. Also UT and MT for other reasons. But none very seriously since I was taking care of elder family. Now that those family members have passed, less of an anchor keeping me here. Right now, it's a good job (at least overall and relatively) and current generation family.
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I've tossed the idea around of moving to TX with some buddies that live there. Also UT and MT for other reasons. But none very seriously since I was taking care of elder family. Now that those family members have passed, less of an anchor keeping me here. Right now, it's a good job (at least overall and relatively) and current generation family.
TX is a big state.
My experience is extremely hot and humid summers. Cold winters.
MT Hot summers but dry. Extremely cold winters.
( my uncle and some other family lived there)
UT, I just drove through in mid winter, very windy.
You spent time in Seattle and are a Hawaii guy,
I'd look at SE AK. But I'm retired and can go anywhere.
I'll stay in HI myself. I'll watch the Democrats self destruct.
but I'm safely on an outer island surrounded by farms and ranches.
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TX is a big state.
My experience is extremely hot and humid summers. Cold winters.
MT Hot summers but dry. Extremely cold winters.
( my uncle and some other family lived there)
UT, I just drove through in mid winter, very windy.
You spent time in Seattle and are a Hawaii guy,
I'd look at SE AK. But I'm retired and can go anywhere.
I'll stay in HI myself. I'll watch the Democrats self destruct.
but I'm safely on an outer island surrounded by farms and ranches.
There are many things about TX that is appealing, at least parts of it. I have been to various parts for work and it is amazing how things change from north Texas (closer to LA) to middle of Texas, to southern TX. I would probably stay away from southern parts. Good buddies are in DFW, Houston burbs, and near Amarillo.
I've been to AK many times and have a bunch of good friends there as well. Anchorage would be hell for me, but I don't think I am built to live out say Wasilla or Talkeetna where I know more folks.
My aunt lives in Hamilton, VA. She has 10 acres there as a "hobby farm". Land values there going way up as the affluent move out to that area for the hobby aspect as well as wanting to get away from the DC metro area. Lots of yuppies. My aunt has lived there for 20 years and has seen a lot of changes. She also has a farm in WV as well where she raises horses. In her VA property, she has a deer stand. She has a lever action 30-30, but doesn't hunt. She has a natural spring so it seems to attract deer. That and I think the deer caught on that she doesn't hunt, so they are safe there. She's not against hunting and she said she would, but just doesn't. Yet. . .
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I'll stay in HI myself. I'll watch the Democrats self destruct.
but I'm safely on an outer island surrounded by farms and ranches and volcanoes and telescope protesters.
FIFY. :thumbsup:
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TX is a big state.
My experience is extremely hot and humid summers.
Had to spend some time in Greenville north of Dallas in the summer, working on a project at E-Systems.
Unbelievably hot and humid. Rain at night, bright sun in the morning. Come out of the motel room and see steam rising up off the grass. Unreal.
Never spent any time in west Texas near new Mexico, might be more tolerable.
Rejected working in Florida for the same reason. Heat as in the desert i can deal with. Add in humidity and I suffer.
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Had to spend some time in Greenville north of Dallas in the summer, working on a project at E-Systems.
Unbelievably hot and humid. Rain at night, bright sun in the morning. Come out of the motel room and see steam rising up off the grass. Unreal.
Never spent any time in west Texas near new Mexico, might be more tolerable.
Rejected working in Florida for the same reason. Heat as in the desert i can deal with. Add in humidity and I suffer.
I lived in Oklahoma for 5 years.
There, it's not the heat, it's the stupidity. :crazy:
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FIFY. :thumbsup:
FIFY
Ten years ago I would have been "hunting" in the area
of the protestors. I would have made them nervous.
I drove that road for ten years, I also know the back way in.
My present income is not impacted by protestors, but I know
people who are very impacted.
As for disasters, you missed wild fires, tropical storms
Tsunamis, earthquakes, tornadoes, drought
( lots of people here on catchment), flood, et al
You can even experience a blizzard here.
I was trying hard to figure out what natural disaster
we don't experience here.
Sand storm is the only one. I could think of.
Still the BI is the best place I've ever lived.
Every place I've ever lived as an adult has been
declared a disaster area( Not my fault) that covers
many places. from Mississippi to Guam to Hawaii
and a lot in between
I just wish we could rid ourselves of the Democrat
infestation. However, realistically, you have
that problem everywhere you go in America.
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Everywhere west of the Rockies is turning into the Sahara, and at some point utilities will be ridiculously expensive and the grid failures will kill people from the lack of AC. Better to try and find somewhere that has a renewable water source that is not contaminated.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/04/16/drought-worst-western-megadrought-here-study-says/5145929002/
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Prescott, Arizona!
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I lived in Oklahoma for 5 years.
There, it's not the heat, it's the stupidity. :crazy:
Only drove through OK on I-40, no idea about the local critters.
Could never live in a place so flat and bleak. Need a view like I have now, just without the miserable political climate of Hawaii.
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Prescott, Arizona!
You know I can’t resist your post! :rofl:
I just moved to Prescott Valley, a suburb of Prescott. Housing is a little cheaper here than in Prescott proper and a lot cheaper than Hawaii. Also, more country out here than in Prescott. With Prescott having only a population of around 40k it is still a small town feel. We are up around 5,300-5,500 feet in elevation so when it is 115 in Phoenix it is around 90 in Prescott. We get snow out here to the tune of only a couple of feet in a year. And my understanding is that it doesn’t stick and is gone in a day or two. We just had a small amount of hail earlier this week. The people here so far have been very welcoming and friendly.
We have been here since the 2nd and we are enjoying it here so far. We miss Hawaii but we had to leave because I retired and we can’t afford to stay here on a fixed income. Also, the medical facilities here leave a lot to be desired if you have some major issues like my wife. Those were the reasons we left for. While the political and anti 2A atmosphere here is maddening at times I always felt it was worth fighting for. But that is JMHO.
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Well, let's take a look at what you posted and what meaning it inferred.
If not the groups I listed, what other groups of people are you referring?
Please tell, I would love to join in the bashing. :shaka:
Don't be inserting your comments in my quotes and making it appear that I said all those things YOU inferred.
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Only drove through OK on I-40, no idea about the local critters.
Could never live in a place so flat and bleak. Need a view like I have now, just without the miserable political climate of Hawaii.
When I think of OK, I envision life in the movie The Outsiders. :rofl:
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This state is broken. I hate to be “one of those people” that flee a state rather then stand and try to change the laws but I just see no light at the end of the tunnel. People here, especially Hawaiians, don’t give a crap about politics. This allows politicians to run unelected and propose and enforce crappy policies. I don’t see myself living here much longer.
With that being said, what state, if you had to, would you guys go to? I’d love to go to Wyoming. Clean air, secluded, unreal hunting and fishing, lax gun laws, just to name a few things. Frigid winters is the only thing stopping me. How about you guys?
I agree with everything you say. You can play a losing hand to the best of your ability but sometimes it makes sense to fold. My wife is open to the idea but we can’t be more than 30-40 min away from a major town. I’m looking at getting at least 1 acre with a house and don’t want to spend more than $500k.
I’m looking at specifically CDA in Idaho, and a Connifer Colorado.
We were looking at Durham NH because close to my wife’s family but Gave up when we realized prop taxes for a 300-400k house is around $10k! :shake:
I worry about CO being more blue though. Most of the props there are $400-500k, 1 acre 2000-2500sq ft 3/2. 30 min from Denver.
CDA is about 30-40 min from Spokane, and I found some acreage and a nice house for less than $500k.
I worry about the cold for both and will miss the surf terribly, but the way I’m setting it up, I should be able to make solid cash flow renting out my property here, move to the mainland and have cheaper everything. I won’t need to make nearly as much. Probably would feel the same making half.
Not sure if my income will come back here, if it does anytime soon I’d be happy to make 50-75% of what I was making. They say Hawai’i is hit the hardest and I have to agree hospitality states will feel the worst. Couple in the fact that the state is full of asleep citizens and corrupt lazy politicians that rather fight trump than get things rolling, and well, you get the idea.
This event has me really concerned living in one of the most remote places with a lot of people in a small area.
I like threads like these. Keep the info coming. More like minded people.
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I agree with everything you say. You can play a losing hand to the best of your ability but sometimes it makes sense to fold. My wife is open to the idea but we can’t be more than 30-40 min away from a major town. I’m looking at getting at least 1 acre with a house and don’t want to spend more than $500k.
I’m looking at specifically CDA in Idaho, and a Connifer Colorado.
We were looking at Durham NH because close to my wife’s family but Gave up when we realized prop taxes for a 300-400k house is around $10k! :shake:
I worry about CO being more blue though. Most of the props there are $400-500k, 1 acre 2000-2500sq ft 3/2. 30 min from Denver.
CDA is about 30-40 min from Spokane, and I found some acreage and a nice house for less than $500k.
I worry about the cold for both and will miss the surf terribly, but the way I’m setting it up, I should be able to make solid cash flow renting out my property here, move to the mainland and have cheaper everything. I won’t need to make nearly as much. Probably would feel the same making half.
Not sure if my income will come back here, if it does anytime soon I’d be happy to make 50-75% of what I was making. They say Hawai’i is hit the hardest and I have to agree hospitality states will feel the worst. Couple in the fact that the state is full of asleep citizens and corrupt lazy politicians that rather fight trump than get things rolling, and well, you get the idea.
This event has me really concerned living in one of the most remote places with a lot of people in a small area.
I like threads like these. Keep the info coming. More like minded people.
Colorado! My cousins husband is from Colorado. They lived there for a few years and loved it. Huge beautiful mansion for about the same price as a 2 bdrm condo here :rofl:
Plus there’s great elk hunting. Cold winters though, I think I could live in Colorado although like you mentioned I’m the “blueness” worries me.
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Colorado! My cousins husband is from Colorado. They lived there for a few years and loved it. Huge beautiful mansion for about the same price as a 2 bdrm condo here :rofl:
Plus there’s great elk hunting. Cold winters though, I think I could live in Colorado although like you mentioned I’m the “blueness” worries me.
https://www.freedominthe50states.org/
Can’t be that blue though! I’ve heard the mag ban is super neutered, as in gun shops just sell you “parts kits.”
Based on the above link, it’s a hell of a lot better than HI!
I think I’ll like a Connifer better since there’s so much to do in the area but ID has to be one of the last states to turn I’d imagine, just like WY.
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A friend of mine, a staunch 2A supporter recently moved to Washington. Apparently, and someone correct me if I’m wrong, if you live close to the coast it is quite liberal. But as you cross into the central to eastern part it becomes quite conservative. He bought 40 acres for some minuscule amount to hunt and shoot on. And he bought a home on a different piece of property. Closer to a big city for his wife. I don’t remember all the details but he seems to think it is the ultimate place to live after living in Hawaii. Just another place to think about.
BTW, I don’t know about the area you mentioned with the high property taxes, so you might want to look into it. Most states with super high property taxes like you said usually have low to no sales taxes. In some cases they will counteract each other meaning you will pay the same either in a state with low property taxes and mid to high sales taxes or high property taxes with low to no sales tax. I think this is how TX is. A friend moved to TX to be near his family about a year ago. He figured out he was paying about the same there with the high property taxes but no sales tax. I’m not saying it is this way with the area you mentioned but you might want to check it out.
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Prescott Valley ? :o
Did you know that you're a mere 80 miles away from Dillon Precision ? :D
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I worry about CO being more blue though.
What I gather, CO is only democrat in Denver area. Like other democrat dominated states: one or two large cities control a fairly normal state. Was conservative for very many decades, so apparently a lot of liberals moved into Denver like happened to SF and LA in California. Not a very tenable long term condition, inner city against the rest of the state..
the way I’m setting it up, I should be able to make solid cash flow renting out my property here, move to the mainland and have cheaper everything.
Wife is thinking along those lines, though I am not. If I leave for a place I can go shooting, not worry about checking my property at night armed, all the crap they keep coming up with here, no way I come back.
Arizona needs more conservatives moving there to offset the liberals from CA moving to Phoenix and Tucson.
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Prescott Valley ? :o
Did you know that you're a mere 80 miles away from Dillon Precision ? :D
Even closer to Paulding and Col Cooper's Gunsite.
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Prescott Valley ? :o
Did you know that you're a mere 80 miles away from Dillon Precision ? :D
And just down the road apiece from Ruger :thumbsup:
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What I gather, CO is only democrat in Denver area. Like other democrat dominated states: one or two large cities control a fairly normal state. Was conservative for very many decades, so apparently a lot of liberals moved into Denver like happened to SF and LA in California. Not a very tenable long term condition, inner city against the rest of the state..
Wife is thinking along those lines, though I am not. If I leave for a place I can go shooting, not worry about checking my property at night armed, all the crap they keep coming up with here, no way I come back.
Arizona needs more conservatives moving there to offset the liberals from CA moving to Phoenix and Tucson.
That’s what I’ve heard as well. Most of Oregon/Washington even a Cali outside of the cities is really conservative. I gather CO is suffering the same fate. I’d hate to move somewhere and have similar “Hawai’i feelings” a decade down the road. Heck, even all the libs are moving to Boise as well. Why isn’t there more blue states turning red!?
I’d hate to sell my place here because the appreciation has been steady for the last 100 years. Lol. It is attractive though. Selling high and taking that huge payout as opposed to the steady-eddy monthly cash flow.
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Prescott Valley ? :o
Did you know that you're a mere 80 miles away from Dillon Precision ? :D
I’m still learning but I think I know pretty much everything around me. :love:
I can’t wait for this stupid virus to die so I can get out and visit/shop!!! :rofl:
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And just down the road apiece from Ruger :thumbsup:
Actually drove by Ruger in August when we were here. But no factory tours. :(
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Even closer to Paulding and Col Cooper's Gunsite.
Have not visited Paulding or Gunsite yet. But my brother and I are planning.
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I've tossed the idea around of moving to TX with some buddies that live there. Also UT and MT for other reasons. But none very seriously since I was taking care of elder family. Now that those family members have passed, less of an anchor keeping me here. Right now, it's a good job (at least overall and relatively) and current generation family.
TX is turning blue. All the CA people fleeing CA to TX are taking their politics which they are fleeing from to TX.
Visited my sister in-law and her husband in Rice Lake WI and fell in love with that place. 40 acre wooded lot for about $100,000. Bought my Henry 45-70 and a shotgun there. Just showed my ID (instant back ground) gave my credit card and i was out of the store in 20 minutes.
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TX is turning blue. All the CA people fleeing CA to TX are taking their politics which they are fleeing to TX.
Visited my sister in-law and her husband in Rice Lake WI and fell in love with that place. 40 acre wooded lot for about $100,000. Bought my Henry 45-70 and a shotgun there. Just showed my ID (instant back ground) gave my credit card and i was out of the store in 20 minutes.
I hear that from my buddies in TX, particularly from the one that lives near Houston. While I could certainly consider politics, it's not super high on my list of factors. I lived in Seattle for over 10 years and I hate what has come of that city. I used to say that I would move back there, but I don't think so anymore. I mean I think I could under the right set of circumstances. That said, I don't ever see myself moving to CA or NY based primarily on politics.
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I’m still learning but I think I know pretty much everything around me. :love:
I can’t wait for this stupid virus to die so I can get out and visit/shop!!! :rofl:
Wife and I are frustrated only being avble to look at real estate online. Knowing that the photos only show houses in the best way possible. And keep seeing the stuff of interest get sold very quickly.
Really like to get on a plane and look in person, but with this crap.
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I hear that from my buddies in TX, particularly from the one that lives near Houston. While I could certainly consider politics, it's not super high on my list of factors. I lived in Seattle for over 10 years and I hate what has come of that city. I used to say that I would move back there, but I don't think so anymore. I mean I think I could under the right set of circumstances. That said, I don't ever see myself moving to CA or NY based primarily on politics.
My conservative brother and sister-in-law own 2 homes in SoCal. Their son and his family lives in one of the homes and they live in the other. Their son loves SoCal cuz he is a beach/SUP person and he doesn’t want to lose connection to the ocean. My brother and sister-in-law hate what SoCal has become and wants to move. But when I push them about selling their house they say they want to stay near their son. I remind them that they own the house he lives in and that if they sell it he will have to move and I guarantee he will move to where ever they move to. After that I get that they say it will start WWIII and they don’t want to deal with it.
When I lived in SoCal I couldn’t wait to get out of there. The political environment is stressful. You are constantly bombarded with all the ridiculous policies and new rules you have to deal with taking away more and more freedom. It really is propaganda and brain washing to an extent. You are told what they are going to do and it is for the better good of CA and the world and they are going to tax you more and you are going to like it. And my liberal family drinks the Kool aid and walks around like lemmings.
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Wife and I are frustrated only being avble to look at real estate online. Knowing that the photos only show houses in the best way possible. And keep seeing the stuff of interest get sold very quickly.
Really like to get on a plane and look in person, but with this crap.
I would wait. No need to have to deal with this virus insanity any more than you have to.
You are right in wanting to see the house in person. But actually, you also want to see the neighborhood and surrounding area as well. When I was looking at homes in Prescott Valley online I saw some terrific houses. Usually they were a little older house at a decent price. I was hoping we could find one around $250k-$275k. After we got there and actually saw the houses, most were as nice as shown on the Internet. But the surrounding houses and neighborhood was not so great. Not bad, just that a lot homes that need upkeep. It brings down the value of the better homes. So we spent a little more and bought in an upscale neighborhood.
So where are you looking to buy?
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My conservative brother and sister-in-law own 2 homes in SoCal. Their son and his family lives in one of the homes and they live in the other. Their son loves SoCal cuz he is a beach/SUP person and he doesn’t want to lose connection to the ocean. My brother and sister-in-law hate what SoCal has become and wants to move. But when I push them about selling their house they say they want to stay near their son. I remind them that they own the house he lives in and that if they sell it he will have to move and I guarantee he will move to where ever they move to. After that I get that they say it will start WWIII and they don’t want to deal with it.
When I lived in SoCal I couldn’t wait to get out of there. The political environment is stressful. You are constantly bombarded with all the ridiculous policies and new rules you have to deal with taking away more and more freedom. It really is propaganda and brain washing to an extent. You are told what they are going to do and it is for the better good of CA and the world and they are going to tax you more and you are going to like it. And my liberal family drinks the Kool aid and walks around like lemmings.
Sounds a lot like what Seattle has become. Almost sad to see what some of what my friends post. Well, now that I think back, one was an uber liberal before I knew what the hell that was. I went to college with both her and her husband and even worked with her husband for almost 10 years after and he never thought like that. At least when we were in college. I remember that she got all mad at me one time because I got a good grade in a class where the professor stated up front that class participation weighs heavily on your grade. Well, she was mad because I didn't say much in class but got an A and she spoke a lot and got a B. Well, equal opportunity, not equal results. I tried to explain to her that she was usually just arguing because she thought she was correct as opposed to looking at the situation logically and rationally. Remind you of anyone?
Not a whole lot in CA super appeals to me. I mean I visited SD maybe 3-4 years ago and loved it when I visited, but that was a work trip and one of my college buddies was there and we were able to hang out.
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I already decided that if I moved to the mainland, I would rent a place and get a feel for the area. If I liked it, then I would buy. That would also give you more time to look. I wish I could have had that luxury when I moved to the BI, but with 5 dogs, 2 cats and 7 birds that all live in the house, I pretty much had to buy..
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There is a lot of research you can do on line.
Since I only consider homes with at least 5 acres of land that makes it easier.
By law I'm not allowed to live in a city.
Check all costs such as dump, utilities, property taxes, car tabs, insurances,
food prices at the nearest stores, Crimes and types of crime in the area,
Medical facilities, lawyers on speed dial, bugs, animals, weather history,
et al.
Those costs add up and will tell you what kind of place it is.
That will greatly narrow your search.
Some years back I looked into re-locating back to WA state,
but in another more rural part of the state. than where I lived before.
All things being equal the costs told me to stay where I am.
So here I stay.
My advice is be careful before you jump. It always looks greener
until you land and live there.
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Sounds a lot like what Seattle has become. Almost sad to see what some of what my friends post. Well, now that I think back, one was an uber liberal before I knew what the hell that was. I went to college with both her and her husband and even worked with her husband for almost 10 years after and he never thought like that. At least when we were in college. I remember that she got all mad at me one time because I got a good grade in a class where the professor stated up front that class participation weighs heavily on your grade. Well, she was mad because I didn't say much in class but got an A and she spoke a lot and got a B. Well, equal opportunity, not equal results. I tried to explain to her that she was usually just arguing because she thought she was correct as opposed to looking at the situation logically and rationally. Remind you of anyone?
Not a whole lot in CA super appeals to me. I mean I visited SD maybe 3-4 years ago and loved it when I visited, but that was a work trip and one of my college buddies was there and we were able to hang out.
I was born and raised in SoCal and I loved it growing up. I really was sad and disappointed when things started to change. That was in early to mid 2000’s and I lived in OC. Not the same place I grew up. As a matter of fact everyone was so angry. And when I spouted off about something conservative or pro 2A that anger turned toward me. Eventually, I was being made fun of by all my new liberal neighbors mostly because I was still driving my old 1992 Toyota Truck that rattled going down the street. They were all driving high end German and Italian cars and Hummers. It got to the point where I didn’t feel like I belonged in my own neighborhood anymore. While I could have easily dealt with that (I don’t care) the political environment coming from the state along with the gang influences was too much for me to handle. If CA were to ever turn red again, I would consider moving back.
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There is a lot of research you can do on line.
Since I only consider homes with at least 5 acres of land that makes it easier.
By law I'm not allowed to live in a city.
Check all costs such as dump, utilities, property taxes, car tabs, insurances,
food prices at the nearest stores, Crimes and types of crime in the area,
Medical facilities, lawyers on speed dial, bugs, animals, weather history,
et al.
Those costs add up and will tell you what kind of place it is.
That will greatly narrow your search.
Some years back I looked into re-locating back to WA state,
but in another more rural part of the state. than where I lived before.
All things being equal the costs told me to stay where I am.
So here I stay.
My advice is be careful before you jump. It always looks greener
until you land and live there.
Good advice right there! :thumbsup:
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So where are you looking to buy?
Never been there, so i am going by conjecture about areas.
Spent a lot of time hiking in the Sierras and love the pines and granite boulders. Seems west Prescott and maybe southwest may have that. Neat looking area up in the hills west of the town, but wife thinks that may be too isolated. Brother and cousins live way south near Tucson but that is too desert hot for us to consider.
Had a co-worker move to Prescott about 20 years ago and he told me all about it at the time. Seems in a recent contact that he is still pleased with it. Reiterated how conservative it is there.
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Never been there, so i am going by conjecture about areas.
Spent a lot of time hiking in the Sierras and love the pines and granite boulders. Seems west Prescott and maybe southwest may have that. Neat looking area up in the hills west of the town, but wife thinks that may be too isolated. Brother and cousins live way south near Tucson but that is too desert hot for us to consider.
Had a co-worker move to Prescott about 20 years ago and he told me all about it at the time. Seems in a recent contact that he is still pleased with it. Reiterated how conservative it is there.
I have not been here long enough to really determine anything. But so far the people who I have had some sort of contact with have been conservative. I can also say so far I have run into only very friendly people. There are a lot of retired and older people here. So much so that when stores like Costco open an hour early for seniors only that it is very crowded with seniors.
If you decide you want to contact a Real Estate Critter, let me know and I can recommend the guy we used.
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If you decide you want to contact a Real Estate Critter, let me know and I can recommend the guy we used.
Will do so.
Wife does most of the phone work due to my destroyed hearing.
It helps that wife has at least one school time friend wants to be there. All my relatives are mainland as well, Oregon and Arizona.
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There is a lot of research you can do on line.
Since I only consider homes with at least 5 acres of land that makes it easier.
By law I'm not allowed to live in a city.
Check all costs such as dump, utilities, property taxes, car tabs, insurances,
food prices at the nearest stores, Crimes and types of crime in the area,
Medical facilities, lawyers on speed dial, bugs, animals, weather history,
et al.
Those costs add up and will tell you what kind of place it is.
That will greatly narrow your search.
Some years back I looked into re-locating back to WA state,
but in another more rural part of the state. than where I lived before.
All things being equal the costs told me to stay where I am.
So here I stay.
My advice is be careful before you jump. It always looks greener
until you land and live there.
Appreciate the advice. I’ve never lived on larger properties but friends have told me more than 5 acres is a pain. Hoping to get something around there, 1-5 or slightly more. The agreement is we can’t be further than 30-40min from a major town per the wife. :rofl:
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Howdy,
We moved to Hill Country Texas several years ago.
Yes we miss the weather & local foods.
Settled in Fredericksburg, it is a high end tourist location for Texas.
We have 10+ acres, enough to legally shoot any firearm legal in Texas.
We are just outside city limits. To offset property taxes we have cattle on ours which gets us a small tax exemption.
The people here are very nice & Welcomed us.
Everyone we know are gun owners.
Many women we know have permits to carry & do carry.
We are 90 minutes from Austin and San Antonio.
Next clostest town is 30 minutes drive.
Down side is major medical facilities are in Austin or San Antonio.
Weather can dip below freezing but last short while.
Home costs vary with area & acreage.
No place is perfect, but where we are is a lot better than where we were in Hawaii.
Our nearest neighbor is 200yds away.
No complaints about our shooting in back pasture.
Texas is a Very Big State.
Has a place for you, you just have to look for it.
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Well, let's take a look at what you posted and what meaning it inferred.
Inferences are made by the listener/reader.
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Appreciate the advice. I’ve never lived on larger properties but friends have told me more than 5 acres is a pain. Hoping to get something around there, 1-5 or slightly more. The agreement is we can’t be further than 30-40min from a major town per the wife. :rofl:
Having more than 5 acres is not a pain. You don't have to maintain all of it. I have only 3 acres, but what I did has clear and gravel a large area in front of the house for parking and whatever. Keep a nice size lawn in the back and just left the rest natural except for cutting ATV trails to check on the rest of the property. Trails and gravel areas are easily maintained with a 15 gal power sprayer mounted on the back of the ATV and herbicide.
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Having more than 5 acres is not a pain. You don't have to maintain all of it. I have only 3 acres, but what I did has clear and gravel a large area in front of the house for parking and whatever. Keep a nice size lawn in the back and just left the rest natural except for cutting ATV trails to check on the rest of the property. Trails and gravel areas are easily maintained with a 15 gal power sprayer mounted on the back of the ATV and herbicide.
When talking to my brother in-law in WI about his 40 acre wooded property he said that when he thins out the property he calls a logging company and tells them what types of trees to remove or save and he receives a check when it's done (he does not keep any of the logs).
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When talking to my brother in-law in WI about his 40 acre wooded property he said that when he thins out the property he calls a logging company and tells them what types of trees to remove or save and he receives a check when it's done (he does not keep any of the logs).
My mom has done this twice. You have to watch them closely because they'll take trees they're not supposed to and leave a mess behind (unless you don't care).
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Having more than 5 acres is not a pain. You don't have to maintain all of it. I have only 3 acres, but what I did has clear and gravel a large area in front of the house for parking and whatever. Keep a nice size lawn in the back and just left the rest natural except for cutting ATV trails to check on the rest of the property. Trails and gravel areas are easily maintained with a 15 gal power sprayer mounted on the back of the ATV and herbicide.
My aunty has 10 acres in VA (maybe 30-45 mins outside DC). She has horses and her neighbors have horses, cattle, etc. I think most of those lots are meant for "hobby" level farms and lots of small vineyards. I thought the property was gonna be HUGE, especially from the photos she would send. But I was surprised that it wasn't as big as I thought when I finally visited. I mean it's a lot of land, but I was thinking a lot more. She has a natural spring and pond, so maybe that broke things up and made it seem smaller.
She does do a lot of maintenance on her property though. She's retired, so it's like her daily chores. She also had friends who have specialized equipment that helps beyond her riding mower. There seems to be lots of trees going down in high winds.
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What's an acre? Lifetime concrete jungle resident.
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What's an acre? Lifetime concrete jungle resident.
About 40% of a hectare. Born in brick alleys.
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What's an acre? Lifetime concrete jungle resident.
A lot of work.
5 are even more.
Raised in SE Los Angeles county.
Ever heard of Compton?
I lived across the LA river( such as it is )
from it.
I'd never consider buying less than 5 acres anywhere.
4 acres for animals.
1 acre for garden, shop, and house.
Minimum.
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What's an acre? Lifetime concrete jungle resident.
It is 1/3 the size of my 3 acre lot. LOL.
My lot is 266 ft x 491 ft. or 130,606 sq ft. One acre is 43 560 sq ft.
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Thought about it many times, but too many business related things here to step out.
A 2a friendly state would be one of my main checklist items. Wouldn’t mind purchasing property in one or more of the following though:
Nevada
Alaska
Arizona
Idaho
Montana
Wyoming
Texas
Florida
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My aunty has 10 acres in VA (maybe 30-45 mins outside DC). She has horses and her neighbors have horses, cattle, etc. I think most of those lots are meant for "hobby" level farms and lots of small vineyards. I thought the property was gonna be HUGE, especially from the photos she would send. But I was surprised that it wasn't as big as I thought when I finally visited. I mean it's a lot of land, but I was thinking a lot more. She has a natural spring and pond, so maybe that broke things up and made it seem smaller.
She does do a lot of maintenance on her property though. She's retired, so it's like her daily chores. She also had friends who have specialized equipment that helps beyond her riding mower. There seems to be lots of trees going down in high winds.
TWSS
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Thought about it many times, but too many business related things here to step out.
A 2a friendly state would be one of my main checklist items. Wouldn’t mind purchasing property in one or more of the following though:
Nevada
Alaska
Arizona
Idaho
Montana
Wyoming
Texas
Florida
Nevada is a state to watch. They did pass some not friendly 2a laws. Like needing an FFL for ALL gun transfers. This passed ballot vote a few years ago, but the last gov never signed it into law. Then the DNC gov was elected and he signed it quickly. They also have red flag if I'm not mistaken. But other than that, no mag limits, shall issue CCW, permitless OC, SBR and NFA OK. Even shooting tanerite OK.
Also because lots of CA residents moving into NV. They're gonna vote the same probably. Just like when HI people move there. I got 3 friends in NV. 2 still vote blue. 1 changed to red.