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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: SpeedTek on June 25, 2012, 08:27:51 AM
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I hear its been a zoo down there since last monday. 2-3 hour waits!!!???
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There is a new form to read and sign.
It's from the "U.S. Department of Justice BATFE"
It essentially has you sign and acknowledge that anyone who uses Marijuana, whether doctor prescribed or not is not allowed to own firearms.
Maybe that's the reason for the extra long processing times.
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Yeah keoni is right, there's a new form. Other then that shouldn't be too much of a long wait. The day we were there was fast. The part that took the longest was the guy trying to read my chicken scratch handwriting, and I didn't even have to Pay.
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Was just down there this morning for registration... in at 11:36 AM, out at 11:55 AM.
Also noticed that First Time Registration Fee is $16.50. Wasn't it $19.75 or something?
Not that I'm complaining, but last I heard, Honolulu C&C was in desperate need of new sources of revenue!
dubya
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Was just down there this morning for registration... in at 11:36 AM, out at 11:55 AM.
Also noticed that First Time Registration Fee is $16.50. Wasn't it $19.75 or something?
Not that I'm complaining, but last I heard, Honolulu C&C was in desperate need of new sources of revenue!
dubya
It's not revenue for them. By law, they can only charge whatever the FBI charges for fingerprinting.
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It's not revenue for them. By law, they can only charge whatever the FBI charges for fingerprinting.
gotcha... thanks for the clarification!
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Haven't seen it here on Maui. Is this just when registering? Filed out a handgun PTA last Monday, never saw the form.
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I registered my handgun this past friday, I only waited for about 20mins minus the line.
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Was registering on Fri. Picked up permit only 2 people in line. Came back to register pistol, 1 person in line and no one after that for about 15 mins.
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MPD Records department normally doesn't have a long wait. Lucky if it takes all but 20 minutes from start to finish. This is registering firearms or applying for a permit.
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Thanks to that guy in firearms for taking those firearms
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http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/18900159/hpd-officer-accused-of-stealing-firearms-resigns-from-the-force (http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/18900159/hpd-officer-accused-of-stealing-firearms-resigns-from-the-force)
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A Honolulu Police Department officer accused of taking firearms turned in by citizens to be destroyed has resigned after HPD began investigating him earlier this spring.
HPD's records and identification division, right outside the entrance to the police department's Beretania Street headquarters, houses the firearms unit where people register their guns. Members of the public also turn in as many as 50 guns a year to the police department for destruction.
HPD began criminal and administrative investigations in March, after allegations surfaced of "firearms improprieties" by an officer assigned to the firearms unit, according to an HPD spokeswoman. The spokeswoman declined to identify the officer in this or any other personnel case.
Sources said officer Francisco Lutu -- a nine-year HPD veteran assigned to the firearms unit -- was accused of taking guns that were supposed to be destroyed and trying to sell them on the side. Lutu has not been charged with any crime so far.
Sources said when Lutu was working at the firearms desk and somebody came in to turn in a weapon, he would tell his bosses he needed to go on a lunch break and then he would meet the person outside the office and try to give the person some cash so that they would give him the gun instead of turning it over to HPD to be destroyed.
HPD said Lutu's police powers were restricted in March, when his badge and gun were taken away during the investigation. An HPD spokeswoman confirmed he resigned from the force in May.
HPD finished its probe and turned the results over to the prosecutor's office last week, according to a spokesman for City Prosecutor Keith Kaneshiro.
The officer could face a number of charges including theft, forgery, tampering with a government record and firearms registration violations, the prosecutor's spokesman said.
It's unclear how many guns the officer accused of stealing from the department and it is unknown whether he was able to actually sell any of them or whether he just wanted some of the guns for his personal collection
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"As many as 50 firearms are turned in each year for destruction"
:wtf:
Don't they know that I run a legal firearms disposal for cash facility?
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Hmmm, the way the article is worded I don't see why it would be a problem that the officer would buy the guns as long as he registered it after the sale. I actually bought a Ruger 10/22 for $50 off a guy who was waiting in line to turn it in to be destroyed. I then went to the counter and registered both rifles. No crime there, I hope. Unless HPD has a policy which restricts officers from buying guns while on-duty??? IDK
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Seems like there's alot more to this story than being reported.
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Hmmm, the way the article is worded I don't see why it would be a problem that the officer would buy the guns as long as he registered it after the sale. I actually bought a Ruger 10/22 for $50 off a guy who was waiting in line to turn it in to be destroyed. I then went to the counter and registered both rifles. No crime there, I hope. Unless HPD has a policy which restricts officers from buying guns while on-duty??? IDK
Sounds to me like since HPD didn't "like" the idea of someone rescuing guns-to-be-destroyed, they decided to throw every possible charge out there to encourage his leaving.
Any prosecutor's office has the power, beyond possible jail terms and fines, to bankrupt a person just by making them defend themselves against trumped-up charges.
I'm just a mainland jerk from Colorado, but that's how it sounds to me.
Terry, 230RN
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I don't know how much you can believe but KHNL reported that he was selling them on the "black market".
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I suspect most journalists think that any face-to-face (FTF) transaction is "the black market," just as any rifle is an "AK-47" or "assault rifle," any shotgun is "sawed-off," and any handgun is wun uh them evil Glocks.
Gotta keep the sheeple all a-skeered of them there gunses, after all.
Terry, 230RN
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WHOA! It's 10:00 now, but when I parked my car and went up, there was NO ONE in line. I let the officers in on my surprise and elation, and he chuckled saying that this is the first and only time I'd see that. Hahaha
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I suspect most journalists think that any face-to-face (FTF) transaction is "the black market," just as any rifle is an "AK-47" or "assault rifle," any shotgun is "sawed-off," and any handgun is wun uh them evil Glocks.
Gotta keep the sheeple all a-skeered of them there gunses, after all.
Terry, 230RN
I was just about to post something to this effect, although it wouldn't have been as entertaining. But you are right on the money, as usual. I'm pretty sure KHNL would have a fit if they ever bothered to register on this site and see the burgeoning black market trade we've got going in the classifieds section. [Dear Federal Watchdogs: I do not know of any illegal activity which has occurred, is occurring, or will occur in the future through the classifieds section of this site. My remark was intended as satire, and should not be construed as an admission of criminal guilt. Have a wonderful day, you oxygen thief!]
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Line was to the door this morning. Luckily the guy came to the side window and asked if anyone was just picking up their permit. I was in and out in 5 minutes!
When I came back at noon line was to the door and it took an hour to get thru the line and registered :(
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I was down there at 9:30, had a few people in line. Registered my latest, was out within the hour. The line was to the door when I left.
Anybody know what it's like when they first open? (7:45)
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I've thought about going early like that but I figure parking would be a major problem since no street parking
btw parking was crazy yesterday. 2 cars were inside the structure waiting for something to open up. I drove around for like 15 min and ended up coming back. one of the guys was still waiting. I got lucky and found a spot a block away
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I usually go right after work if I need to pick up a permit or anything. I usually park in the c&c building and get choke parking. The line is usually non existant at that time.
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I usually go right after work if I need to pick up a permit or anything. I usually park in the c&c building and get choke parking. The line is usually non existant at that time.
which building is that? is there a parking structure?
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I think that may be across the street towards Thomas square? I think that's where my old c&c credit union was. I think
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which building is that? is there a parking structure?
I believe bass monkey is talking about the parking structure on the next block Ewa of the police station. There's an entrance on Beretania and there's a bunch of metered parking if you go straight in and also more to the left where there's a little tunnel where you walk through to get to the C&C offices. That's where you park to get building permits and other stuff at the C&C offices. I haven't been there in a while, but IIRC, the meters take a little more money than the meters in the police station for the same amount of time. The good thing is that there is usually space there.
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which building is that? is there a parking structure?
Its ewa of the police station with that preschool on the corner.
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I believe bass monkey is talking about the parking structure on the next block Ewa of the police station. There's an entrance on Beretania and there's a bunch of metered parking if you go straight in and also more to the left where there's a little tunnel where you walk through to get to the C&C offices. That's where you park to get building permits and other stuff at the C&C offices. I haven't been there in a while, but IIRC, the meters take a little more money than the meters in the police station for the same amount of time. The good thing is that there is usually space there.
Yeah that's the building. I always park there. A friend told me a lot of the people finish work at 330 there so not many people around. I never pay my meter. But, they also using the credit card meters there so they might be able to track of someone parks and doesn't pay.
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Do you deal with an actual LEO behind the window at HPD?
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Do you deal with an actual LEO behind the window at HPD?
Yes.
They are actual genuine, police officers
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Yes.
They are actual genuine, police officers
hmm, interesting...
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Yes.
They are actual genuine, police officers
Went first thing this morning. The two guys manning the window when I was there seemed to be pretty new and it made for a pretty slow process. Not sure if it was because today was a popular leave day so they needed some people to cover the shift. I was 5th in line when they opened and I didn't leave until closer to 8:30 am.
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Went yesterday after work. Paid for 13 minutes of parking, returned and there was still 5 minutes leftover. Getting in and out was a breeze. I'll be back in a week or two to register a gun. Well see how that goes.
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Went yesterday after work. Paid for 13 minutes of parking, returned and there was still 5 minutes leftover. Getting in and out was a breeze. I'll be back in a week or two to register a gun. Well see how that goes.
This is my typical experience. I usually go in the afternoons around 2:00-3:00. In the process of acquiring and registering 6 guns, I've only had to wait in a line twice. The longest line being three people. Maybe try afternoons if you hate waiting?
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Ill be going tomorrow morning to pick up my permit. Hopefully the line isnt long. The 2 week wait time has been killing me. Cant wait.
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I went to register my handgun at 9am today and was third in line. I was picking up my permit last Friday at 10:30 and I was like 10th in line. Good thing someone came out and asked who's just here to pick up. About half the line raised their hands.
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Went today and was fourth in line. A few minutes later the line was to the door.
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When I get there, it's always empty to 2 people tops... Between 7:45am-8:45am you can't go wrong.... :thumbsup:
Parking also isn't bad at all down below in the garage at that time..... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Went today and was fourth in line. A few minutes later the line was to the door.
ooh... what you bought?
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When I get there, it's always empty to 2 people tops... Between 7:45am-8:45am you can't go wrong.... :thumbsup:
Parking also isn't bad at all down below in the garage at that time..... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
went Monday morning @ 8. I person in line, was done in 10 min. :shaka:
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Glock 30sf. Sorry Kaiks, don't know how to copy and paste with IPad yet. ???
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Went first thing in the morning and had 5 ppl already waiting before it even opened. Once inside had 4 more ppl behind me. Place was crazy.