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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: Kuleana on May 31, 2020, 09:16:29 AM
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What's up with military arrivals and their families to Hawaii not observing the 14-Day quarantine? Are the civilians living in Hawaii seen as expendable?
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/05/30/breaking-news/councilmember-kym-pine-questions-self-quarantine-exemptions-for-military-arriving-in-hawaii/
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Because unlike Hawaii citizens
Military knows this is all Bullshit!
Military also has "sick call" every day
and as I recall my wife and daughter
could show up also and be treated
just like me.
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You should talk to your doctor to see if it's time for a hysterectomy.
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I'm against the quarantine and I'm also against the military getting a free pass. They say that they get checkups and screening, but the same criteria should be available to everyone else too.
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I'm against the quarantine and I'm also against the military getting a free pass. They say that they get checkups and screening, but the same criteria should be available to everyone else too.
I'm in total agreement with you.
Quarantine is bullshit and Military should not have to be exempted.
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There is a protest/ convoy scheduled
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What's up with military arrivals and their families to Hawaii not observing the 14-Day quarantine? Are the civilians living in Hawaii seen as expendable?
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/05/30/breaking-news/councilmember-kym-pine-questions-self-quarantine-exemptions-for-military-arriving-in-hawaii/
Flight crew, or rather what’s left of them have been exempt too. Think critically.
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That doesn’t apply to all the Navy and Marine Corps are enforcing quarantine.
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That doesn’t apply to all the Navy and Marine Corps are enforcing quarantine.
Yup. Most Commands I’m aware of are fully enforcing C&C Honolulu and State CV19 measures, including quarantine, even when there are exemptions on local and federal levels. Just another example of an irrational person going off the rails without awareness of key information...
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Yup. Most Commands I’m aware of are fully enforcing C&C Honolulu and State CV19 measures, including quarantine, even when there are exemptions on local and federal levels. Just another example of an irrational person going off the rails without awareness of key information...
First of all, what a way to start the day...with personal insults.
Second, how would anyone outside of those military units know what they are doing in regards to quarantines? I don't recall them announcing it to the general public.
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Give me a break.
Over 300 locals fly back every day and do not follow 14 day quarantine,
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First of all, what a way to start the day...with personal insults.
Second, how would anyone outside of those military units know what they are doing in regards to quarantines? I don't recall them announcing it to the general public.
How was anything I said insulting? And you've said way worse. Dayum man. . . everything is a damn personal attack with you. . .
It is public information, but did you look? Did you think to ask? No. You immediately jumped into your usual rant of military bad, imperial empire running AT-ATs without mufflers, etc. Just because you don't recall something doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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How was anything I said insulting? And you've said way worse. Dayum man. . . everything is a damn personal attack with you. . .
Well, were you referring to me in your post below?
Yup. Most Commands I’m aware of are fully enforcing C&C Honolulu and State CV19 measures, including quarantine, even when there are exemptions on local and federal levels. Just another example of an irrational person going off the rails without awareness of key information...
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Well, were you referring to me in your post below?
Well. . .
Good Morning Kuleana! How was your weekend? Hope you had a glorious one. :shaka:
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How was anything I said insulting? And you've said way worse. Dayum man. . . everything is a damn personal attack with you. . .
It is public information, but did you look? Did you think to ask? No. You immediately jumped into your usual rant of military bad, imperial empire running AT-ATs without mufflers, etc. Just because you don't recall something doesn't mean it didn't happen.
:rofl: :rofl: AT-ATs without mufflers... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Brings to question how were they powered? Imperial craft and Rebel crafts? Nuclear? Anti matter propulsion? Electrical system run on 12 volts?
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Well. . .
Good Morning Kuleana! How was your weekend? Hope you had a glorious one. :shaka:
I am very fine and I thank you for your kind words. :worship:
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Listening to Michael Jackson’s “Beat it” ;)
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Well, residents of Hawaii are still kept in the dark, as to what extent Hawaii is still being exposed to Covid-19 due to the military. :grrr:
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/08/05/hawaii-news/hawaiis-military-covid-19-case-count-still-a-mystery/
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According to my secret un-named intelligence informant, it is
the corrupt rank and file of the imperial American warhawks and the military industrial complex
in concert with the fascist American Police corruption on all levels
resorting to the use of geopolitical and military strategy
to support the illegal military invasions and erosion of
all personal rights and liberties as well as the social-economic situation
of sovereignty activists and the local minority population
who are seen as expendable
to complete the illegal invasion/overthrow of Hawaii by the fascist American empire.
:closed:
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According to my secret un-named intelligence informant, it is
the corrupt rank and file of the imperial American warhawks and the military industrial complex
in concert with the fascist American Police corruption on all levels
resorting to the use of geopolitical and military strategy
to support the illegal military invasions and erosion of
all personal rights and liberties as well as the social-economic situation
of sovereignty activists and the local minority population
who are seen as expendable
to complete the illegal invasion/overthrow of Hawaii by the fascist American empire.
:closed:
That gave me a fcking headache. . . go in your Imperial AT-AT. . .
:rofl:
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According to my secret un-named intelligence informant, it is
the corrupt rank and file of the imperial American warhawks and the military industrial complex
in concert with the fascist American Police corruption on all levels
resorting to the use of geopolitical and military strategy
to support the illegal military invasions and erosion of
all personal rights and liberties as well as the social-economic situation
of sovereignty activists and the local minority population
who are seen as expendable
to complete the illegal invasion/overthrow of Hawaii by the fascist American empire.
:closed:
And the gods made love :-*
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to complete the illegal invasion/overthrow of Hawaii by the fascist American empire.
:closed:
Is it “Fascist American Empire? Or is it American Fascist Empire? :geekdanc:
:stopjack:
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I'm waiting for the convoy of activist-commandeered AT-ATs with upside down flags occupying an autonomous zone walking around in circles. Perhaps Waikiki? Waikiki Autonomous Zone (WAZ)
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My military neighbors who just recently moved in observed the quarantine.
Super nice people but took 14 days to meet them.
But Kuleana does have a point.
Why don’t we get the Military numbers in State?
Jeopardize National Security ?
Who the fawk is gonna invade us?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG_G6rZHp1A
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My military neighbors who just recently moved in observed the quarantine.
Super nice people but took 14 days to meet them.
But Kuleana does have a point.
Why don’t we get the Military numbers in State?
Jeopardize National Security ?
Who the fawk is gonna invade us?
The information is classified, because of operational security concerns. No "invasion risk" is required.
If a ship is 40% manned, it's operational readiness status is poor. That kind of info is useful to anyone looking to board a ship to cause damage, gather intel, or otherwise cause problems outside of Hawaii when they know the ship can't respond.
Not rocket surgery...
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The information is classified, because of operational security concerns. No "invasion risk" is required.
Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding!
Well, that's the issue right there.
The biggest national security concern this empire has seen in this century is Covid-19 and the need to defeat it at all costs. Hence, the military should do their part in being transparent enough with their own inflection numbers so common folk can take their precautions, accordingly.
If a ship is 40% manned, it's operational readiness status is poor. That kind of info is useful to anyone looking to board a ship to cause damage, gather intel, or otherwise cause problems outside of Hawaii when they know the ship can't respond.
What kind of nonsense reason is that. The US is in the beginning stages of economic collapse, civil war, and balkanization. What is the point of having and spending money America does not have for a military, when what they are suppose to defend may not even exist when they wake-up the next morning in some far distant land or miles at sea?
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Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding!
Well, that's the issue right there.
The biggest national security concern this empire has seen in this century is Covid-19 and the need to defeat it at all costs. Hence, the military should do their part in being transparent enough with their own inflection numbers so common folk can take their precautions, accordingly.
What kind of nonsense reason is that. The US is in the beginning stages of economic collapse, civil war, and balkanization. What is the point of having and spending money America does not have for a military, when what they are suppose to defend may not even exist when they wake-up the next morning in some far distant land or miles at sea?
You're basing that on your vast, in-depth military experience? :rofl:
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Status of military personnel as it relates to COVID-19 or any other situation that can affect a significant percentage of available crewmen is classified for operational concerns.
That does not mean the information is inaccessible to anyone with proper clearance, a need to know, etc.
For example, for all you/we know, the CDC is getting these figures directly from the Pentagon, perhaps with the specific names and duty assignment locations/ships redacted. They may only be reporting aggregate totals, not case-by-case info.
The state can extrapolate that total from the known cases versus CDC-report numbers.
Just because YOU can't see the numbers doesn't mean the people who NEED to see aren't able to. What, exactly, would you even do with those numbers? Come up with another Anti-American, anti-Military tirade with a pinch of COVID-19 conspiracy for flavoring?
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You're basing that on your vast, in-depth military experience? :rofl:
No, but I am not as blind to what is economically and socially happening all over the continental US, as you are. :geekdanc:
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Status of military personnel as it relates to COVID-19 or any other situation that can affect a significant percentage of available crewmen is classified for operational concerns.
That does not mean the information is inaccessible to anyone with proper clearance, a need to know, etc.
For example, for all you/we know, the CDC is getting these figures directly from the Pentagon, perhaps with the specific names and duty assignment locations/ships redacted. They may only be reporting aggregate totals, not case-by-case info.
The state can extrapolate that total from the known cases versus CDC-report numbers.
Just because YOU can't see the numbers doesn't mean the people who NEED to see aren't able to. What, exactly, would you even do with those numbers? Come up with another Anti-American, anti-Military tirade with a pinch of COVID-19 conspiracy for flavoring?
So much for transparency during a pandemic...
Its people like you and the excuses you give, that is why many people in America has lost faith in its leadership.
And yes, anytime is always a good time to bash the US empire and its imperial military. Death to the US empire and Long Live the US Republic. :shaka:
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So much for transparency during a pandemic...
Its people like you and the excuses you give, that is why many people in America has lost faith in its leadership.
And yes, anytime is always a good time to bash the US empire and its imperial military. Death to the US empire and Long Live the US Republic. :shaka:
Just because there's a pandemic, you think operational and national security information is no longer important enough to protect?
:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :geekdanc:
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why don't you just go to the nearest military base and ask them?
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why don't you just go to the nearest military base and ask them?
I’ll set odds at 10:1 against
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Just ask a cop....
https://youtu.be/MdSJFrhb-HM
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why don't you just go to the nearest military base and ask them?
Just to get infected by the guys at the gate?
No thanks, honesty is the still the best policy.
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I know a guy in the army came back from a trip and they made him quarantine at Schofield.
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The information is classified, because of operational security concerns. No "invasion risk" is required.
If a ship is 40% manned, it's operational readiness status is poor. That kind of info is useful to anyone looking to board a ship to cause damage, gather intel, or otherwise cause problems outside of Hawaii when they know the ship can't respond.
Not rocket surgery...
Whose anyone ?
Zee Germans ?
You think COVID is causing operational security concerns?
North Korea is gonna jack one of our ships? China? Russia? Iran? Yemen? :wacko:
Sounds like HPD not reporting anything internal is legit. Operational security concerns.
I forgot you have top secret clearance though.
That in itself is a scary thought.
No. I’ve never been in the military.
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Whose anyone ?
Zee Germans ?
You think COVID is causing operational security concerns?
North Korea is gonna jack one of our ships?
Sounds like HPD not reporting anything internal is legit. :wacko: Operational security concerns.
I forgot you have top secret clearance though.
That in itself is a scary thought.
No. I’ve never been in the military.
That goes without saying. We have standards. :geekdanc:
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That goes without saying. We have standards. :geekdanc:
You should try living up to them. :geekdanc:
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why don't you just go to the nearest military base and ask them?
they might think he's there to steal the ICBMS...
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Whose anyone ?
Whose? ???
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they might think he's there to steal the ICBMS...
#fakenews
#picoritdidnthappen
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We have standards. :geekdanc:
Too bad not everyone lives to them.
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they might think he's there to steal the ICBMS...
no problem for a lifted Toyota Tundra with an upside down flag
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That goes without saying. We have standards.
Very illuminating how three liberal trolls here all refused to serve in the military.
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Very illuminating how three liberal trolls here all refused to serve in the military.
Are you serious RobDmc?
Refused ?
My Dad was a WW II vet. Buried in veterans cemetery.
If we had something to fight for threatening us, I would’ve been all in.
There's a load of members here who haven’t been in the military.
I just had other options.
Where was I gonna give up college for and go fight ?
Iraq? Afghanistan? Iraq ? Somalia?
There’s an honest new topic.
Why did you join the military?
Just something to ask yourself honestly.
Did you do your 20 career years?
(Some of you probably did. Props again. Career move.)
And if you say to defend my country and for honor (except for you old timers. Tip my hat.) that’s as sheeple an answer as you can get.
Also other than those who enlisted right after 9/11. (Again hat tip)
For ALL you guys though, thank you for your service.
Sincerely.
We need a Military to defend us.
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Very illuminating how three liberal trolls here all refused to serve in the military.
Troll? Look in the mirror, first.
So what's wrong with not serving in the military? Trump did not serve; does that makes him a bad person?
If you think serving in the military makes for better human beings, here is a quote from someone quite intelligent, what he thought of America's soldiers:
“Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”
― Henry Kissinger
Very interesting words from Kissinger, as he was an US Army WWII veteran.
BTW, have a nice day! :shaka:
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Nothing wrong with not serving in your country's military, but criticizing those of us who volunteered, directly or indirectly, is why you get called out.
Then there are the extremists among us who HATE the US military. Literally HATE it.
That hatred doesn't stop with those in the Pentagon or the National Command Authority. Many of us sacrificed much to serve and put our personal goals, liberties and choices on hold to join.
Next time you try to lecture us on why COVID-19 is not an operational security concern and then insult us for trying to explain why it is, remember this: unless you can claim direct knowledge of how ANYTHING military-related works, it's all second- and third-hand information .... most likely from movies and TV.
There are plenty of books out there on military doctrine, national security and the like. I recommend reading some of them before telling us current and former military members how everything works.
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A responsible step in the right direction for a change.
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/08/07/breaking-news/quarantine-exemption-for-military-family-members-arriving-in-hawaii-has-been-revoked/
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Come up with another Anti-American, anti-Military tirade with a pinch of COVID-19 conspiracy for flavoring?
I don't need to come up with another tirade in the ongoing US imperial proxy war with China as all truth will come out eventually.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covid-propaganda/
The social media campaign conducted by both countries is not a surprise.
How far the US empire will go to maintain its empire by risking the health and lives of its vassal states is apparently its new norm.
This latest uncovered scandal with the Philippines along with the blowing up of the Nord Stream pipelines affecting the EU; it goes to show the desperation of the US empire to do whatever it takes to maintain its vassals in Southeast Asia and the EU.
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I don't need to come up with another tirade in the ongoing US imperial proxy war with China as all truth will come out eventually.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covid-propaganda/
The social media campaign conducted by both countries is not a surprise.
How far the US empire will go to maintain its empire by risking the health and lives of its vassal states is apparently its new norm.
This latest uncovered scandal with the Philippines along with the blowing up of the Nord Stream pipelines affecting the EU; it goes to show the desperation of the US empire to do whatever it takes to maintain its vassals in Southeast Asia and the EU.
It took close to a year for you to respond.
Your lack of seriousness is duly noted.
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focus
nearly 4 years...
It took close to a year for you to respond.
Your lack of seriousness is duly noted.
:sleeping:
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so is that why you repeat the same one over and over?
I don't need to come up with another tirade in the ongoing US imperial proxy war with China as all truth will come out eventually.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covid-propaganda/
The social media campaign conducted by both countries is not a surprise.
How far the US empire will go to maintain its empire by risking the health and lives of its vassal states is apparently its new norm.
This latest uncovered scandal with the Philippines along with the blowing up of the Nord Stream pipelines affecting the EU; it goes to show the desperation of the US empire to do whatever it takes to maintain its vassals in Southeast Asia and the EU.
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focus
nearly 4 years...
Wow. I didn't bother to check the year. Just assumed August would be as old as he'd be going back in time.
i was inadvertently more generous than he deserved. :rofl:
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so is that why you repeat the same one over and over?
Give me a break.
With ever the same sickening regurgitating tirades against Biden, Rhodes, the Democratic Party, etc., I don't see you consistently trolling those threads and asking those posters the same question.
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Give me a break.
With ever the same sickening regurgitating tirades against Biden, Rhodes, the Democratic Party, etc., I don't see you consistently trolling those threads and asking those posters the same question.
And how many of those threads have people posting their tirades 4 years later?
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And how many of those threads have people posting their tirades 4 years later?
I just posted the latest revealed Pentagon scandal that cost the lives of many people in the Philippines during the height of Covid-19, and you are more concerned about me presenting those evils committed by the Pentagon four years late?
Very humanely of you as I am sure the families of those Filipinos who lost family members during that period would be moved by your lack of condolence.
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I just posted the latest revealed Pentagon scandal that cost the lives of many people in the Philippines during the height of Covid-19, and you are more concerned about me presenting those evils committed by the Pentagon four years late?
Very humanely of you as I am sure the families of those Filipinos who lost family members during that period would be moved by your lack of condolence.
Do the peoples families of those affected in PI affected read this thread?
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I just posted the latest revealed Pentagon scandal that cost the lives of many people in the Philippines during the height of Covid-19, and you are more concerned about me presenting those evils committed by the Pentagon four years late?
Very humanely of you as I am sure the families of those Filipinos who lost family members during that period would be moved by your lack of condolence.
YOU replied to ME -- four years too late.
Get over yourself.
Even after 4 years plus, the statement I made is still relevant:
"Come up with another Anti-American, anti-Military tirade with a pinch of COVID-19 conspiracy for flavoring?"
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Do the peoples families of those affected in PI affected read this thread?
No, they don't, but they and the rest of the World will see how being a vassal of the US empire does have its drawbacks like having an ally that tries to dissuade you from getting vaccines that could help alleviate the sufferings of your people during a pandemic.
BTW, the article that revealed this latest scandal by the US imperial military was only released by Reuters and other international media outlets just today.
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Even after 4 years plus, the statement I made is still relevant:
How is your statement still relevant?
Since the latest scandal was revealed by Reuters and other international media outlets just today, how could I have responded to you four years ago?
"Come up with another Anti-American, anti-Military tirade with a pinch of COVID-19 conspiracy for flavoring?"
What pinch of conspiracy?
If you read that article that was just released to the public, you will find the Pentagon itself admitted to what it did without any shame. How can those evil actions by the US empire's military not result in even more Anti-American/Anti-Military sentiment to all those affected?
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How is your statement still relevant?
Since the latest scandal was revealed by Reuters and other international media outlets just today, how could I have responded to you four years ago?
What pinch of conspiracy?
If you read that article that was just released to the public, you will find the Pentagon itself admitted to what it did without any shame. How can those evil actions by the US empire's military not result in even more Anti-American/Anti-Military sentiment to all those affected?
I thought you understood the function of punctuation -- i.e. the colon ( : ).
Instead, you chose to treat my comment and the quote it referred to as if they required two separate replies.
Why is that?