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Title: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: zippz on June 21, 2020, 03:01:58 PM
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Note:. You must resubmit testimony again even if you submitted prior to June.
https://hifico.org/jdc062520/

 As reported in our earlier post, the Hawaii legislature is resuming their session with 3 gun control bills being heard by Senator Karl Rhoad's Judiciary committee on June 25th. This session is supposed to be focused on the COVID19 response whith most other bills were scrapped. However Rhoads continues to push the gun control agenda during this emergency.

These are the bills up for hearing:
HB1902 Magazine ban/Family Court Checks
HB2292 Electric guns
HB2744 Ghost gun ban/gun violence commission

We have our easy to use testimony forms ready for you to fill out here: https://hifico.org/jdc062520/ with the priority deadline of June 24th at 10am. We want hundreds of testimonies to stop these bills. Have your family members, coworkers, and friends submit testimony. Numbers count and this may be a close vote.

You also need to call members of the Judiciary committee and Senate President Kouchi to state your opposition to these bills and to get them to cancel the hearing so they can focus on COVID19. There is no reason for them to push for a magazine ban when the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals will release their decision in Duncan vs Becerra in the coming months. https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2020/04/03/coronavirus-key-2a-case/?fbclid=IwAR2bQyjJ0ZPZ5KnowLtwpHK4IdyfXxpiY6Tjs402G9b4h4J8TlXriBwJ3rI

Testimony page: https://hifico.org/jdc062520/
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: zippz on June 21, 2020, 03:47:57 PM
New mag ban bill proposed draft for HB1902 adds grandfathering and deleted family court checks.

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2020/bills/HB1902_SD2_PROPOSED_.HTM

provided that a detachable ammunition magazine with a capacity in excess of ten rounds may be:

     (1)  Possessed by a person who legally possessed the magazine prior to the effective date of Act     ;

     (2)  Acquired by a person by means of inheritance from another person who legally possessed the magazine prior to the effective date of Act     ; or

     (3)  Acquired, possessed, and used by a law enforcement agency or duly authorized law enforcement officer for official purposes. 
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: dwela on June 22, 2020, 11:46:51 AM
Submitted and shared with family.  This State, I tell you, smh.
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: hvybarrels on June 23, 2020, 02:23:21 PM
Submitified!
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: Teichi on June 23, 2020, 08:28:22 PM
Done
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: Direjackalope on June 23, 2020, 10:23:49 PM
Done
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: drck1000 on June 24, 2020, 09:38:30 AM
 Done

I hope people take notice that they are pushing these bills in light of other much more pressing issues in Hawaii.   :grrr:
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: cplnak1 on June 24, 2020, 02:00:04 PM
Done...getting tired of this above the law bullshit as well!!!


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Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: cbacon on June 24, 2020, 05:35:38 PM
Called and submitted.  :shaka:
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: Mdotweber on June 24, 2020, 09:49:50 PM
Committee members:

Jarrett Keohokalole, 808-587-7215
Mike Gabbard, 808-586-6830
Kurt Fevella, 808-586-6360
Donna Mercado Kim, 808-587-7200
Karl Rhoads, 808-586-6130

Senate president

Ronald Kouchi, 808-586-6030
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: changemyoil66 on June 25, 2020, 01:18:04 PM
Update:

Mag bill postponed until 6/30. Rhodes needs more time to fine tune it because it's to broad of a bill. 

Taser bill passed to next committee. Rhodes mentioned since SCOTUS ruled, HI has to not ban tasers anymore, but will regulate them

Ghost gun bill passed to next committee. Rhodes said "parts" are ok to own.  Favella was asking about spare parts and replacement parts.

Only Favella voted No on all 3 bills.

This year, Kevin McDonald is running against Karl Rhodes.  We need to get the word out to get votes for him and support.  Kevin came to the hearing where HPD brass and the chief showed up.  He sat on our side to show he supports the 2a. 
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: zippz on June 27, 2020, 11:05:20 AM
The Senate Judiciary vote was put on hold until Tuesday to figure out a film industry exception for the mag ban.  80% chance we'll get grandfathering for the mags so buy em while you can.  There is still a small chance the bill may not pass.  Our hopes are with the 9th Circuit Court's Duncan vs Becerra to overturn our magazine bans.
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: Specter01 on June 27, 2020, 07:11:37 PM
Why are we still a Blue state? Do we really still need them post Inouye days?  Al this shit is happening in blue states. and we just going to let them lead us into something we don't want or need to be. 
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: Gordyf on June 28, 2020, 06:33:33 PM
Why are we still a Blue state? Do we really still need them post Inouye days?  Al this shit is happening in blue states. and we just going to let them lead us into something we don't want or need to be.

It is the demographics. the Democrats have become the plantation Oligarchy they ran off.
Everyone is still on the Plantation, just the name has changed.
People going along to get along. No make waves 'cause was always like that.
The nail that stands up gets hammered down.
Sad
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: 6716J on June 29, 2020, 08:45:21 AM
So what the fuck does this mean?

(d)  This section shall not apply to the manufacture, transportation, possession, sale, or rental of blank-firing assault weapons and the weapon's respective attachments by persons authorized or permitted to acquire and possess these weapons or attachments for the purpose of rental for use solely as props for a motion picture, television, or digital video production or entertainment event.

Are the magazines used in the movie industry different? Will every actor that holds a firearm have to go through a background check now? A lot of them can't pass the BG due to felony convictions, DUI, etc.. I would bring this up in the meting as testimony as that is how this reads.
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: ren on June 29, 2020, 08:57:31 AM
So what the fuck does this mean?

(d)  This section shall not apply to the manufacture, transportation, possession, sale, or rental of blank-firing assault weapons and the weapon's respective attachments by persons authorized or permitted to acquire and possess these weapons or attachments for the purpose of rental for use solely as props for a motion picture, television, or digital video production or entertainment event.

Are the magazines used in the movie industry different? Will every actor that holds a firearm have to go through a background check now? A lot of them can't pass the BG due to felony convictions, DUI, etc.. I would bring this up in the meting as testimony as that is how this reads.

you mean people like this?
https://people.com/crime/losts-daniel-dae-kim-arrested-on-dui-charge/ (https://people.com/crime/losts-daniel-dae-kim-arrested-on-dui-charge/)

(https://www.theplace2.ru/cache/archive/daniel_dae_kim/img/Daniel_Dae_Kim_lost_-gthumb-gwdata1200-ghdata1200-gfitdatamax.jpg)

(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/8/8f/TJSR9TC-6.jpg/800px-TJSR9TC-6.jpg)
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: Rocky on June 29, 2020, 09:58:42 AM
So what the fuck does this mean?
(d)  This section shall not apply to the manufacture, transportation, possession, sale, or rental of blank-firing assault weapons and the weapon's respective attachments by persons authorized or permitted to acquire and possess these weapons or attachments for the purpose of rental for use solely as props for a motion picture, television, or digital video production or entertainment event.
Dear " motion picture, television, digital video production and entertainment event co-coordinators.
Please feel free to contact me regarding the rental of my "blank-firing assault weapons and the weapon's respective attachments".
10% discount to pro 2a based themes.   :D
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: zippz on June 29, 2020, 10:08:10 AM
So what the fuck does this mean?

(d)  This section shall not apply to the manufacture, transportation, possession, sale, or rental of blank-firing assault weapons and the weapon's respective attachments by persons authorized or permitted to acquire and possess these weapons or attachments for the purpose of rental for use solely as props for a motion picture, television, or digital video production or entertainment event.

Are the magazines used in the movie industry different? Will every actor that holds a firearm have to go through a background check now? A lot of them can't pass the BG due to felony convictions, DUI, etc.. I would bring this up in the meting as testimony as that is how this reads.

Rhoads is concerned about the term entertainment event, which would enable you to keep magazines for just about anything.  Have a prop gun with a real magazine for a kid's birthday party, football game, bachelor party, whatever.
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: hvybarrels on June 29, 2020, 12:24:28 PM
Time for everyone to get a dailymotion channel.
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: ren on June 29, 2020, 12:40:49 PM
Rhoads is concerned about the term entertainment event, which would enable you to keep magazines for just about anything.  Have a prop gun with a real magazine for a kid's birthday party, football game, bachelor party, whatever.

The Kokohead shooting complex is a theatre for tactical cosplay. I go there for entertainment and to exercise my 2a right. There ya go  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 29, 2020, 04:28:47 PM
The Kokohead shooting complex is a theatre for tactical cosplay. I go there for entertainment and to exercise my 2a right. There ya go  :thumbsup:

I'm entertained just watching some of the other shooters.   :rofl:   :geekdanc:
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: PalisadesKid on June 30, 2020, 10:58:20 AM
HB1902 SD2 HD2 PASSED and they adopted PROPOSED SD2 to include grandfathering of magazines.

FULL VIDEO OF HEARING TODAY 06/30/2020: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZy41TNGZBg

Notes:

-At first Karl Rhoads was to adopt Proposed SD2 while amending to REMOVE the grandfathering but then as he was reading a document, he stopped himself and audibly can be heard saying "wait.. is this right?", then returned to the mic to say the amendment will have to do with the exemption for movie production and will include language to refer to existing exemptions for firearms and movie production.

-Co-Chair Senator Keohokalole recognized how HPD wanted grandfathering to be removed due to their claims of having difficulty proving what magazines were grandfathered, but then also noted that his constituents would be instantly be criminals overnight so therefore he "appreciates" the adopting of PROPOSED SD2 with grandfathering.

-Senator Fevella made the biggest pro 2A arguments to which Rhoads obviously didn't want to even address his concerns.

Final votes: Rhoads- Yes, Keohokalole - Yes, Gabbard - Reservations, Kim - yes, Fevella - NO.

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=HB&billnumber=1902&year=2020
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: hvybarrels on June 30, 2020, 11:38:39 AM
Thanks for posting
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: ren on June 30, 2020, 12:38:38 PM
thanks for the insights.
Five head needs to get voted out next election. That should be the strategy.
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: macsak on June 30, 2020, 12:41:36 PM
thanks for the insights.
Five head needs to get voted out next election. That should be the strategy.

heads
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: rpoL98 on June 30, 2020, 08:05:40 PM
when Fevella was speaking, Rhoads got bored, pulled out his fon and starting checking his texts (9:24), while Fevella was talking to him.  what a rude mofo.  no etiquette, no manners, important business of the people being conducted.

Rude A.F.  what a d!ck.
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: ren on June 30, 2020, 08:45:59 PM
prior to his political career:
http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/3044/Federal-Court-ruling-Rep-Karl-Rhoads-participated-in-Honolulu-County-Council-Kickback-scheme.aspx (http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/3044/Federal-Court-ruling-Rep-Karl-Rhoads-participated-in-Honolulu-County-Council-Kickback-scheme.aspx)

and shady moves:
http://hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/14705/Rep-Karl-Rhoads-Feeding-Info-to-Calvin-Says-Attorney-while-Chairing-Special-Committee.aspx (http://hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/14705/Rep-Karl-Rhoads-Feeding-Info-to-Calvin-Says-Attorney-while-Chairing-Special-Committee.aspx)
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: zippz on June 30, 2020, 09:12:57 PM
HB1902 is likely to pass, but there is still a small chance it won't.  Going to keep on working on it.  At least grandfathering helps a bit until Duncan vs Becerra is settled.

If it passes in the house and senate, then the Governor can sign it anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months from now and it'll go into effect at that time.
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: rpoL98 on July 01, 2020, 08:47:35 AM
so, people need to be ordering their costco-sized lifetime supply at this time...
Title: Re: HIFICO Testimony needed JDC Hearing June 25th
Post by: stangzilla on July 01, 2020, 03:19:46 PM
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20200701/hawaii-anti-gun-bills-eligible-for-the-floor?fbclid=IwAR0Bf1y4okG00YxzrjfmKF7FA8DcIulDRQBsBZNsGjlhPOUJar4vyACyAuQ

can also submit via NRA ILA