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Title: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: SpeedTek on June 30, 2012, 03:21:50 PM
Magnum has a sidewalk sale today staring from $5
Some stuff $50 before marked down to $5!!
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: wayar15 on June 30, 2012, 04:16:03 PM
Honolulu Firearms and Shooting Range (formerly Magnum) also has in store specials on everything (10 to 25 per cent off). The personnel there seem like a nice group to deal with.
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: Funtimes on June 30, 2012, 05:22:39 PM
Magnum has a sidewalk sale today staring from $5
Some stuff $50 before marked down to $5!!

Well, at magnum, that could mean it was a 4.99 item to start with ;).  *baching!!*   ;D
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: mongoose on June 30, 2012, 06:34:31 PM
I heard this "sale" was pretty much a bust. ;)
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: back2back on June 30, 2012, 09:13:33 PM
A bust....far from it!  We walked away with a couple of brand new high end assault ruck sacks for less than $50.00 for both items.  The staff and the atmosphere is very different. Its down right positive!  Magnum was donated to the new owners and Mr. Ong has nothing to do with the store anymore.  Good on for the new owners who trying to change the place around.  At least they are doing something positive with it.
Title: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: Jl808 on June 30, 2012, 10:29:02 PM
I agree... Honolulu Firearms and Range has a completely different feel to it. Travis and Daniel were both very pleasant to talk to.
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: SpeedTek on June 30, 2012, 10:31:52 PM
I vote for Daniel....
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: back2back on June 30, 2012, 11:02:22 PM
I thew down for a membership to the range.  I have to admit, being able to shoot, do a little shopping, not have to worry about a range master yelling at you to stand behind the yellow line, and hoping to use some ones private range in the future is down right awesome!
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: back2back on June 30, 2012, 11:03:39 PM
I vote for Daniel....

One vote for Travis!
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: mongoose on June 30, 2012, 11:28:07 PM
A bust....far from it! 

I stand corrected  :(
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: flaboy808 on July 01, 2012, 08:34:37 AM
I thew down for a membership to the range.  I have to admit, being able to shoot, do a little shopping, not have to worry about a range master yelling at you to stand behind the yellow line, and hoping to use some ones private range in the future is down right awesome!

Have the membership dues changed for the range?
Title: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: Jl808 on July 01, 2012, 02:00:31 PM
I was talking to Travis and he said membership was $400/year if I'm not mistaken. Gun purchases supposedly add credit to this membership somehow.  Not sure of the details -- Might want to call them.
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: Kingkeoni on July 01, 2012, 03:08:16 PM
Have the membership dues changed for the range?

No

I was talking to Travis and he said membership was $400/year if I'm not mistaken. Gun purchases supposedly add credit to this membership somehow.  Not sure of the details -- Might want to call them.

Every $500 spent gives you $100 credit towards the annual membership.

Membership is $400 annually
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: GZire on July 02, 2012, 05:35:23 PM
A bust....far from it!  We walked away with a couple of brand new high end assault ruck sacks for less than $50.00 for both items.  The staff and the atmosphere is very different. Its down right positive!  Magnum was donated to the new owners and Mr. Ong has nothing to do with the store anymore.  Good on for the new owners who trying to change the place around.  At least they are doing something positive with it.


Paint me cynical, but I find it weird that a church would own a firearms shop.
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: SpeedTek on July 02, 2012, 06:05:31 PM

Paint me cynical, but I find it weird that a church would own a firearms shop.

Why? In the mainland there are a lot of churches with preachers into guns. Especially when i was living in Idaho.
Title: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: hnl.flyboy on July 02, 2012, 06:08:58 PM
$400 annually then buying their ammo only...eh...too much for me.
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: Kingkeoni on July 02, 2012, 06:52:27 PM
$400 annually then buying their ammo only...eh...too much for me.

The way I buy guns, I've been an annual member for about six years now and have never spent a dime for membership.

Every $500 spent on guns gets you 3 months of free range membership.
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: Pit808 on July 02, 2012, 09:15:34 PM
I went by there today when they opened and THANK GOD they didn't have what I was looking for.
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: GreenStomper on July 02, 2012, 10:45:18 PM
Ha! I went there today and didn't spend a dime.
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: SpeedTek on July 02, 2012, 10:50:17 PM
We are not the kind of customers that Art would like.
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: GreenStomper on July 02, 2012, 11:01:36 PM
I did get to fondle some of the merchandise..... >:D
Title: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: Newb on July 02, 2012, 11:55:54 PM
Why? In the mainland there are a lot of churches with preachers into guns. Especially when i was living in Idaho.

They are called cults... Ever been to Hayden lake? 

Sorry... Had to do it... I know.... Bad first post. Lol

Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: GZire on July 03, 2012, 06:32:44 PM
Why? In the mainland there are a lot of churches with preachers into guns. Especially when i was living in Idaho.


Churches are supposed to be non-profit organizations.  How can they be a for profit firearms retail shop and still maintain that?
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: bass monkey on July 03, 2012, 08:38:48 PM
Non profits can be for profit. One of the best paying jobs I had was working for a non profit.
Does anyone know if they are open tomorrow, was thinking of stopping by.
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: Kingkeoni on July 04, 2012, 12:45:04 AM

Churches are supposed to be non-profit organizations.  How can they be a for profit firearms retail shop and still maintain that?

1) A gun store is a separate entity

2) Allocation of profits

Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: DuckFat on July 04, 2012, 11:24:16 AM
Non profits can be for profit. One of the best paying jobs I had was working for a non profit.
Does anyone know if they are open tomorrow, was thinking of stopping by.
No, not profits cannot be engaged in business primarily for profit. Their primary goal must be stated in their mission statement (education, charity, etc.). Long story short, they can engage in unrelated business for profit which is subject to tax but risk losing their nonprofit status.

1) A gun store is a separate entity

2) Allocation of profits
Yes, separate entities and separate reporting. Not really allocation of profits as they are separate entities, but you got the idea. Actually churches are generally exempt from reporting anything. Ehhh, there's actually lots of tax issues to discuss but the church gun store is probably operated like a thrift store (think Goodwill) so it wouldn't actually be a separate for profit entity.
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: GZire on July 05, 2012, 04:51:37 PM
Non profits can be for profit. One of the best paying jobs I had was working for a non profit.
Does anyone know if they are open tomorrow, was thinking of stopping by.

You being employed by a non-profit and a non-profit organization making a profit are two different things entirely.
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: SpeedTek on July 07, 2012, 08:32:47 AM
LOL. Since owning performance auto shops since 1975 it is the same thing. I just leave the opinionated customers alone. As far as sales staff that is arrogent well good help is hard to find.  Sometimes it is the extension of the owner or managers.  Retail is tough.  Nationwide sales is worse.  Sometimes when new shops open up they are nice and as you go the customers take a toll when the staff gets fustrated. We just try to do our best and do what we do best.
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: SpeedTek on July 07, 2012, 08:33:06 AM
 :stopjack:
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: bass monkey on July 07, 2012, 08:38:28 AM
I love these post.  Opinions and self inflated facts are great when you do not even have to work at a gun store on a dally basis. I am not sure if most of the folks that post on these threads ever worked at gun shop before. Well here is a bit of overinflated trivia.  It sucks, because you have to deal with opinionated customer who always think they are right. How do I know, I only lasted one year at gun shop in the mainland and dam near lost my love for firearms after dealing with all kind of attitudes.  My hat goes off to Daniel, Carter, Brian, Kanoa, Tony, and Travis.  All of these guys have to deal with us face to face on daily basis.  We even get to trash talk about them on the inter webs as well. It's not right. Folks, if we do not appreciate what we have it might disappear in the future.  Just support your local gun shops and get out and shoot. I am really getting tired of all the bashing.  Wheres has the aloha gone?


Its like that in any occupation where you work with customers on a daily basis.  Was like that when i worked at longs.  Still like that when i worked at Petco, my friend at oceanic says the same thing.  I guess the aloha died with the hawaiians.  (just kidding)



Oh and about the non profit, i worded that one wrong.  Sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: back2back on July 07, 2012, 09:38:48 AM
I worked at Long's too!
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: SpeedTek on July 07, 2012, 07:22:39 PM
For Forum members in most cases the prices are below internet prices!

Ask KingKeoni
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: Kingkeoni on July 07, 2012, 07:33:57 PM
For Forum members in most cases the prices are below internet prices!

Ask KingKeoni

X-ring definitely has some great prices.

If you haven't been there, you should stop by.

Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: 42itus on July 08, 2012, 12:25:41 AM
X-ring definitely has some great prices.

If you haven't been there, you should stop by.

+1.  Bought one from them today.  Smokin deal and unbeatable service! Will always check there before any purchase.
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: GZire on July 09, 2012, 09:08:34 AM
I love these post.  Opinions and self inflated facts are great when you do not even have to work at a gun store on a dally basis. I am not sure if most of the folks that post on these threads ever worked at gun shop before. Well here is a bit of overinflated trivia.  It sucks, because you have to deal with opinionated customer who always think they are right. How do I know, I only lasted one year at gun shop in the mainland and dam near lost my love for firearms after dealing with all kind of attitudes.  My hat goes off to Daniel, Carter, Brian, Kanoa, Tony, and Travis.  All of these guys have to deal with us face to face on daily basis.  We even get to trash talk about them on the inter webs as well. It's not right. Folks, if we do not appreciate what we have it might disappear in the future.  Just support your local gun shops and get out and shoot. I am really getting tired of all the bashing.  Wheres has the aloha gone?

I hope you are not referring to me when you say bashing.

I stated my opinion because to me the whole thing is sketchy (gifting of Magnum to a church).  For the record, I have not worked at a firearms shop.  For the record I have an uncle who was a pastor (since retired) of a church.  Said uncle was not rolling in the dough like some of the local church leaders.  So when I get that little red light going off, it's for a reason.

Second, I have and continue to patronize the local shops.  This patronage is however based on factors other than solely of cost.  When I was young it was all about bottom line.  Now it's more about service and quality of product.  Magnum in particular (yes here is the bashing back2back has a deserved reputation due to its previous owner).  This is not a reflection of those working there, but if the experience is not good, then why would we go back?  Well in my case I won't.  There is only one shop on the island that I will not go to and that's them.  It's from my personal observations of what went on and that from my close friends' personal experiences.

Firearms shops are shops.  It's like any other business and customer service is a huge component of them surviving.
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: Jl808 on July 09, 2012, 09:44:41 AM
Hi GZire

My very first experience with the previous owner of Magnum was a bad one and after that first experience, I only went back there to use the range.  I had good interactions with Brian when he was there and returned there solely because of him.

When I heard that Magnum was under new management, I had to check it out to see what changes were happening -- I am glad I did.  The new staff there are very personable and I saw that the new management seemed to be really trying to change things around. 

I see that a lot of the other gun shops are also getting better and I try to visit and buy some stuff from them also.  Overall, the improvement of the gun stores in Oahu are good for Hawaii shooting sports in general.

I'm not saying that you should change your mind but you might want to give Honolulu Firearms and Range a chance.

jl808
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: hvybarrels on July 09, 2012, 10:20:48 AM
I don't care if the shop owner is a weirdo or a dick. Just don't be an expensive dick.
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: urdust on July 09, 2012, 10:24:44 AM
2nd that
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: Jl808 on July 09, 2012, 11:15:51 AM
lol ... 3rd that (the expensive part)!  :)
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: GZire on July 09, 2012, 06:39:31 PM
Hi GZire

My very first experience with the previous owner of Magnum was a bad one and after that first experience, I only went back there to use the range.  I had good interactions with Brian when he was there and returned there solely because of him.

When I heard that Magnum was under new management, I had to check it out to see what changes were happening -- I am glad I did.  The new staff there are very personable and I saw that the new management seemed to be really trying to change things around. 

I see that a lot of the other gun shops are also getting better and I try to visit and buy some stuff from them also.  Overall, the improvement of the gun stores in Oahu are good for Hawaii shooting sports in general.

I'm not saying that you should change your mind but you might want to give Honolulu Firearms and Range a chance.

jl808
I will think about it.  I'm still having difficulty figuring the whole gifting of the store to the church. 





I don't care if the shop owner is a weirdo or a dick. Just don't be an expensive dick.
Ha ha ha ha..............you in your 20s?.
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: bass monkey on July 09, 2012, 07:03:49 PM
I stopped by today. Prices still seem high for some things. They had a lot of things marked down though. I was looking for a belt and the guy mentioned they just had a sidewalk sale. I told him I never heard about it and if they advertised and he said yeah all over. Right on. Wasn't ready to purchase yet. Heard a sales person selling firearms tell his customer to search online to figure out what he wants and then to come back and they will see if they can get the gun or what they can do.

Overall not a bad experience. Nothing mentionable
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: SpeedTek on July 09, 2012, 07:55:06 PM
Yes just go on the internet find what you want and the cheapest place to buy it from and then come back. Art would have loved that.
Title: Re: Magnum sidewalk sale
Post by: BananaClip on July 14, 2012, 08:38:02 AM
I will think about it.  I'm still having difficulty figuring the whole gifting of the store to the church.
I agree, even though as a Christian it's ok to own guns and have fun it still sends a confusing message to the world...

I personally own firearms for fun, or sorry to scare the antigunnners (FOR RECREATIONAL REASONS)  :rofl:... I can count how much ammo I have                                     

(no "APOCALYPSE" amount of ammo) in my safe.. :rofl: I want a firearms store too but I need to be employed with KK first  :rofl:

I walked in MAGNUM a number of times with a "Christian" shirt but I never got a discount ??? ;D