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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: ren on August 25, 2020, 11:20:39 AM
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So is the range closed now? Nothing on City website but Mayor announced new order. I didn't hear the specifics of what parks are closed.
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So is the range closed now? Nothing on City website but Mayor announced new order. I didn't hear the specifics of what parks are closed.
The last order posted on the C&C website is Aug 21.
Was there an updated one announced today?
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I found it.
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/08/25/breaking-news/watch-live-u-s-surgeon-general-joins-ige-caldwell-for-covid-19-briefing/
Oahu will be put under another stay-at-home, work-at-home order starting 12:01 a.m. Thursday for two weeks,
Honolulu Mayor Kirk Caldwell announced today.
So, even if the range is open, you can't go. :wacko:
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Man these fuckers keep pointing to the “increase” in positive cases like they don’t know it’s because of increased testing and contact tracing. I’m getting really sick of this.
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I got a fever, and the only prescription is...
MORE LOCKDOWN!
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I think it is the percentage of the tests that come back positive that they are looking at, besides the # of positive tests
Oh well at least traffic will be even lighter :-)
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Man these fuckers keep pointing to the “increase” in positive cases like they don’t know it’s because of increased testing and contact tracing. I’m getting really sick of this.
I keep thinking, what the fuck is 2 weeks gonna do? Besides breaking the back of businesses, ruining an already ruined economy, and risking civil unrest?
So after 2 weeks what are their fuckin plans? Open up for a month or so and then close down again?
Look what happened to Sweden. They never imposed a lockdown. Life went on as usual. Yes, they took a beating and people died. The government entrusted that the people will do the right thing and maintain social distancing, hygiene, etc, etc. For the most part the people complied, but people still died.
It's sad and horrible but YOU DON'T HEAR MUCH ABOUT SWEDEN ANYMORE. Why is this? Maybe they flattened the curve. Maybe they got it controlled somewhat. I don't know.
If this 2 week bullshit stay at home order doesn't work and 2 months down the line we have to do a lockdown again maybe it's time to just allow that old saying: Life must go on.
Maybe it's time to begin life as usual. Once people realize the destiny and safety of everyone is in each individuals hands and actions, we can weather this fuckin shit ass virus while trying to save what's left of the economy and allow businesses and people to get back to work.
I really don't think this 2 week crap is going to do anything. Except prolong the agony.
What was laughable was when "they" mentioned anyone caught not abiding by the lockdown mandates will serve jail time. Oh, I see. That's why they are releasing criminals. To make room for us. What a bunch of jokers. :wtf:
I'm in the at-risk group. I'm old and retired so I don't have to worry about mortgage, paying bills, wondering where the next paycheck will come from. Open up already. I can die from the virus or get hit by a bus. We cannot live afraid and constantly ask "what if?" all the time.
Open up. And let the young people live their lives. We all only live once.
Ok. Rant over. :grrr:
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Our gov’t’s common sense coronavirus control
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We have people who still have paychecks making decisions over people who don't. Caldwell makes $500k a year including his part time job. https://www.civilbeat.org/2016/07/honolulu-mayors-six-figure-compensation-from-bank-draws-fire/ (https://www.civilbeat.org/2016/07/honolulu-mayors-six-figure-compensation-from-bank-draws-fire/)
https://www.civilbeat.org/2020/02/caldwell-took-in-155000-from-territorial-bank-in-2019/ (https://www.civilbeat.org/2020/02/caldwell-took-in-155000-from-territorial-bank-in-2019/)
Can these people relate to hard times? No. They see us as the "masses" and they are the elite. Their exceptions such as the City Hall potluck and the Hawaii DNC's check-in at the beach show how they are above us subjects.
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We have people who still have paychecks making decisions over people who don't. Caldwell makes $500k a year including his part time job. https://www.civilbeat.org/2016/07/honolulu-mayors-six-figure-compensation-from-bank-draws-fire/ (https://www.civilbeat.org/2016/07/honolulu-mayors-six-figure-compensation-from-bank-draws-fire/)
https://www.civilbeat.org/2020/02/caldwell-took-in-155000-from-territorial-bank-in-2019/ (https://www.civilbeat.org/2020/02/caldwell-took-in-155000-from-territorial-bank-in-2019/)
Can these people relate to hard times? No. They see us as the "masses" and they are the elite. Their exceptions such as the City Hall potluck and the Hawaii DNC's check-in at the beach show how they are above us subjects.
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Sorry to hear about your accident. Speedy recovery. Pedestrian
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I think it is the percentage of the tests that come back positive that they are looking at, besides the # of positive tests
Oh well at least traffic will be even lighter :-)
I think it’s pretty reasonable to assume that as you test more the percentage of positive cases would go up as well as number of actual positive cases.
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I think it’s pretty reasonable to assume that as you test more the percentage of positive cases would go up as well as number of actual positive cases.
I think that's their strategy - test more - more positive cases = longer lockdowns. Transform HI into a welfare State
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Notice posted at koko head that the range will be closed after today. Reopening on 17 Sept
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Notice posted at koko head that the range will be closed after today. Reopening on 17 Sept
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Notice posted at koko head that the range will be closed after today. Reopening on 17 Sept
The new "order" 08/25/2020 states Kokohead Shooting Range "MAY" remain open. Too bad it wasn't "SHALL"...
08/25/2020 ORDER: https://kitv.images.worldnow.com/library/271acfb8-f6f0-430f-a0e3-8cbfabcb272c.pdf
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speaking of the range, I was told that they painted all the benches brown because its easier to clean and disinfect? Dr? Any Drs in the house?
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Notice posted at koko head that the range will be closed after today. Reopening on 17 Sept
I was planning to go today but figure it must be crazy, regardless if they close tomorrow or not. Of course, the Parks are not gonna bother to update the fcking website.
http://www.honolulu.gov/parks/
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yep...
Government operations will still be permitted at the range though.
"all for me, none for thee"
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yep...
Government operations will still be permitted at the range though.
"all for me, none for thee"
even last lockdown, cops and other LEO were shooting at kokohead the whole time too
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speaking of the range, I was told that they painted all the benches brown because its easier to clean and disinfect? Dr? Any Drs in the house?
hospital code brown >:D
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No. Percentage does not go up Just because more tests are given. If Asian population is 3%, if you Do more polling the Asian population is still 3%
Why 2 weeks? - probably because that is How long quarantine Is.
But what do I know, I’m just an old Fart
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hospital code brown >:D
Not sure the color matters in that regards. A freshly painted wooden surface has fewer small cracks and crevices where cleaning is more difficult.
Just a guess, though.
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No. Percentage does not go up Just because more tests are given. If Asian population is 3%, if you Do more polling the Asian population is still 3%
Why 2 weeks? - probably because that is How long quarantine Is.
But what do I know, I’m just an old Fart
% doesnt go up but if you test more of the population, expect more positive cases based on national and historical HI statistics.
So according to Kirk Caldwell's metric of 200-250 "we won't open again" until either herd immunity is reached or a vaccine is administered.
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No. Percentage does not go up Just because more tests are given. If Asian population is 3%, if you Do more polling the Asian population is still 3%
Percentage could go up if they tested a lot more through contact tracing.
Focusing Testing on the high risk.
Maybe that’s why they want to test 60,000 basically mass / random people over the next two weeks.
Is anyone gonna go for the free mass tests they’re setting up?
It’s gonna F’Up traffic In Aiea as they’re moving a lot of it to Aloha Stadium.
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/08/26/hawaii-news/free-covid-19-testing-being-offered-on-oahu/
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/08/26/watch-mayor-caldwell-holds-press-conference-testing-site-new-program-hits-speedbumps/
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Percentage could go up if they tested a lot more through contact tracing.
Focusing Testing on the high risk.
Maybe that’s why they want to test 60,000 basically mass / random people over the next two weeks.
Is anyone gonna go for the free mass tests they’re setting up?
It’s gonna F’Up traffic In Aiea as they’re moving a lot of it to Aloha Stadium.
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/08/26/hawaii-news/free-covid-19-testing-being-offered-on-oahu/
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/08/26/watch-mayor-caldwell-holds-press-conference-testing-site-new-program-hits-speedbumps/
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My next door neighbor says he going. They in the older class.
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yep...
Government operations will still be permitted at the range though.
"all for me, none for thee"
even last lockdown, cops and other LEO were shooting at kokohead the whole time too
Yeah, and our taxes pay for the range and LEO's.
But we no can use the range.
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My next door neighbor says he going. They in the older class.
I going stay home. Knowing my luck I going catch the virus just waiting in the car to get tested......
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I think it is the percentage of the tests that come back positive that they are looking at, besides the # of positive tests
Oh well at least traffic will be even lighter :-)
I look at the percent filled ICU beds in the state. It just went from 53% filled to 62% filled in 1 day. If critical care beds filled in Honolulu and someone has a heart attack on the Big Island then they are not flying to Honolulu as usual to get their angiogram.
On 8/4 15 covid patients were in the ICU, yesterday it was 54.
To get a sense of the lack of critical care here, OHSU hospital in Portland has 80 ICU beds. Hawaii as an entire state has 244 (actually about 60 more but no staff to run them)
To add to the issue 33 doctors have left the Big Island since January and most likely a bunch on the other islands as well.