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Title: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: ren on September 04, 2020, 04:06:20 PM
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/09/04/lt-gov-green-stay-at-home-order-likely-be-extended-more-weeks/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/09/04/lt-gov-green-stay-at-home-order-likely-be-extended-more-weeks/)
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: 19pontiac79 on September 04, 2020, 05:52:21 PM
Not surprising >:(  :( assholes.
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: mrgaf on September 04, 2020, 06:06:21 PM
Shit licks.... :grrr:
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: 19pontiac79 on September 04, 2020, 06:10:45 PM
So far I've been lucky through this shit. Work considered essential so still chugging along with steady work. My brother not so much his "furlough" got pushed back again from his company till Jan, he been stay at home since the wuhan broke in Hawaii, April? , he's a hotel chef.
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: hvybarrels on September 04, 2020, 08:14:09 PM
And it's all.....for nothing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0y6M-N8wOE
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: ren on September 04, 2020, 08:36:20 PM
Carrot Top is pretty smart
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: oldfart on September 05, 2020, 06:55:19 AM
Carrot Top is pretty smart
...
That video is kind of funny but sad that I agree with him.
Just casual observation of our local news and my family experience with the virus tells me that the cost of the shutdowns exceeds the benefits.

Yes, a few people do die. People have a tendency to do that, virus or not.
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 05, 2020, 12:19:03 PM
The Covid numbers that they display everyday in the news irritate me.

They show the new cases every day, the total number of cases currently, and the death toll.

The death toll, the number of covid cases that are being treated in hospitals, along with the number of cases being treated in the ICU units are more important.

I'm starting to get paranoid and start thinking conspiracy theory.  Just like I was skeptical about how the twin towers on 9-11 collapsed and no plane debris at the pentagon and at that crash sight of flight 93.

Certain people made a lot of money on the war on terror.  It has been said before you go to war you have to win the hearts and minds of the people.  WW2 had Pearl Harbor.  The war on terror had 9-11.   

 I'm beginning to think a lot of people will make money on this pandemic once the "vaccine" is finally available.

Ige…. if you really care about the people of Hawaii, fix the unemployment claim dept. ok? :grrr:
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: ren on September 05, 2020, 12:47:13 PM
Ige…. if you really care about the people of Hawaii, fix the unemployment claim dept. ok? :grrr:

when a claimant doesn't put a name, birthdate or address it makes the process difficult....that's what they are not reporting in the news.
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: Brystont1 on September 05, 2020, 12:47:44 PM


Ige…. if you really care about the people of Hawaii, fix the unemployment claim dept. ok? :grrr:

I have 6 weeks of pending unemployment benefits. I have not gotten in touch with anyone since March.
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: Gordyf on September 05, 2020, 01:12:57 PM


[Certain people made a lot of money on the war on terror.

I figure somebody is making money on every positive test.
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: ren on September 08, 2020, 02:09:12 PM
with today's announcement of the continued fascist lockdown will the range be open?
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: aieahound on September 08, 2020, 02:32:43 PM
1 person per bench. Seems it should work and pass the requirement.
We shall see....
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: mrgaf on September 08, 2020, 03:07:23 PM
with today's announcement of the continued fascist lockdown will the range be open?

Well I’ll tell you what....
Caldwell can just kiss my ass. I’ll take my dog for a walk in my neighborhood with my wife any god damn time I want.
I’m tired of playing this fucking game with this scum bag. I fully expect to get a visit from our local pigs; told Caldwell and that that fugly  HPD chief the same thing. Bring it on.... :grrr: >:D


Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 08, 2020, 04:58:02 PM
1 person per bench. Seems it should work and pass the requirement.
We shall see....

I've always believed that KHSC is the safest recreation park compared to the other parks.  There probably were lots of social gatherings during normal times before the shit ass virus came but the facility can easily adapt to the social distancing standards.

And I believe the shooting and 2a community are responsible enough to ensure it will uphold that standard.  I believe it because this community cares for their firearm rights and would not jeopardize it in any way.

It's just that our leaders are:

Cowards

Have no common sense

Have no faith in their constituents  (and a growing number feel the same way about them)

Lazy and incompetent, as dept. heads, directors, and all these so called high up officials recently taking leave of absence, retiring, and resigning.  What's the matter, no can handle?  What were you  doing all these past 20 years?  (besides grabbing a paycheck....)

Waiting in their offices for directives from the Democratic Party.

There's that old saying "When the going gets tough, the tough gets going....."

In Hawaii the leaders say "when the going gets tough, it's time to retire."
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: Rhed on September 08, 2020, 07:59:36 PM
with today's announcement of the continued fascist lockdown will the range be open?

I think it’s gonna open.. though I might be misinterpreting Order 6B.

https://www.scribd.com/document/475334752/New-stay-at-home-order

Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: powder monkey on September 09, 2020, 10:16:08 AM
Add 2 more weeks
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: zippz on September 09, 2020, 10:19:05 AM
Per dept of parks the range is closed during the lockdown.
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: ren on September 09, 2020, 10:24:39 AM
Per dept of parks the range is closed during the lockdown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45QJiADwGhE&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: stangzilla on September 09, 2020, 11:48:29 AM
Per dept of parks the range is closed during the lockdown.

http://www.honolulu.gov/parks/default.html
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: dafrtknocker on September 09, 2020, 04:53:22 PM
They updated the Koko head website.

The Koko Head Shooting Complex will be closed to the public during the "Stay at Home" Order, scheduled to end Sept. 24, 2020.

http://www.honolulu.gov/cms-dpr-menu/site-dpr-sitearticles/38579-koko-head-shooting-complex.html
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: oldfart on September 10, 2020, 07:47:57 AM
In a related story, it seems Hawaii is the only place in the US that is forcing people out of business...
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/09/09/hawaii-stands-alone-keeping-some-retailers-closed-because-covid-/

WTF is Caldwell thinking?

Furthermore, since people are only supposed to go hiking alone, that violates one of the basic common-sense safety rules of hiking.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/09/10/hikers-say-oahus-new-emergency-order-could-lead-more-emergencies/

WTF is Caldwell thinking?
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: ren on September 10, 2020, 08:08:00 AM
In a related story, it seems Hawaii is the only place in the US that is forcing people out of business...
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/09/09/hawaii-stands-alone-keeping-some-retailers-closed-because-covid-/

WTF is Caldwell thinking?

Furthermore, since people are only supposed to go hiking alone, that violates one of the basic common-sense safety rules of hiking.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/09/10/hikers-say-oahus-new-emergency-order-could-lead-more-emergencies/

WTF is Caldwell thinking?

I think that Caldwell just lacks leadership like many of our elected officials. But that is too simple and somewhat naive.
I believe there are some people/organizations who have specific interests in targeting segments of our population for their own agendas during this pandemic.
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 10, 2020, 10:59:27 AM
I started cracking up laughing when the news article mentioned that "people ARE AGAIN confused about the new restrictions....."

It seems that from the very beginning Ige and Caldwell have been sending out contradicting stay at home orders. :rofl:










Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: Rocky on September 10, 2020, 01:26:55 PM
They updated the Koko head website.

The Koko Head Shooting Complex will be closed to the public during the "Stay at Home" Order, scheduled to end Sept. 24, 2020.

http://www.honolulu.gov/cms-dpr-menu/site-dpr-sitearticles/38579-koko-head-shooting-complex.html

But the Koko head tram trail remains open !  :wtf:
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: mrgaf on September 13, 2020, 06:26:43 PM
These idiots are the Borg....we will not be assimilated nor will we comply. Send an email to Kermit and idiot and tell them the same....  :grrr:
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: aieahound on September 13, 2020, 06:36:58 PM
The idiocy really hit me today.

I went to Ala Moana to paddle board with my friend.
Two steps on the sand....illegal.
Two steps in the water.....legal.

Literally less than ten feet separated us from illegal to legal.
Technically we could have been illegal but cops and lifeguards don’t bother anyone in the water.

Family shows up. Walks to water all separated. Gets knee deep. Family again.
Parents and three kids.
Couldn’t do it on a hiking trail though.

Swimming by yourself? You ever seen Ala Moana channel at 6:30 am? Couldn’t swim, paddle board by yourself if you wanted to.

Choke cops cruising through Ala Mo on a regular basis.

And apparently paddle board rental is an essential business.

Kokohead range is the most controlled public park they got. Closed.  :wtf:
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: Gordyf on September 13, 2020, 07:50:01 PM
Just remember that Caldwell wants to be Governor in the worst way.
Mull that over in your mind :grrr:
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: ren on September 13, 2020, 08:02:25 PM
Just remember that Caldwell wants to be Governor in the worst way.
Mull that over in your mind :grrr:

#AnybodyButCaldwell

What a douche
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: mrgaf on September 13, 2020, 08:13:57 PM
These idiots are the Borg....we will not be assimilated nor will we comply. Send an email to Kermit and idiot and tell them the same....  :grrr:

BTW add the chief Skank of Police to your email list......
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: mrgaf on September 13, 2020, 08:16:14 PM
The idiocy really hit me today.

I went to Ala Moana to paddle board with my friend.
Two steps on the sand....illegal.
Two steps in the water.....legal.

Literally less than ten feet separated us from illegal to legal.
Technically we could have been illegal but cops and lifeguards don’t bother anyone in the water.

Family shows up. Walks to water all separated. Gets knee deep. Family again.
Parents and three kids.
Couldn’t do it on a hiking trail though.

Swimming by yourself? You ever seen Ala Moana channel at 6:30 am? Couldn’t swim, paddle board by yourself if you wanted to.

Choke cops cruising through Ala Mo on a regular basis.

And apparently paddle board rental is an essential business.

Kokohead range is the most controlled public park they got. Closed.  :wtf:

Total idiocy....ahhhh our great and ever faithful pubic servants from HPD are on patrol..we are safe from ourselves...... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: Inspector on September 14, 2020, 02:53:54 AM
Sounds like you are living under Socialism/Communism.  :-\
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: ren on September 14, 2020, 07:32:10 PM
Could the range reopen this weekend?
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: macsak on September 14, 2020, 07:45:42 PM
Could the range reopen this weekend?

no
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: ren on September 14, 2020, 07:58:52 PM
no

#oppressed
(https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/HT_arcade_kid_mar_141022_16x9_992.jpg)
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 14, 2020, 11:45:15 PM
#oppressed
(https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/HT_arcade_kid_mar_141022_16x9_992.jpg)

They always rig that game by putting the heaviest prizes on top so the jaws can't stay closed on them.

I hope he had a good dinner.  He's gonna be there a while!   :rofl:
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: Heavies on September 15, 2020, 05:16:48 PM
We're having a similar issue with our home surf break.   Parks director has been blowing BS to the public.   Maybe some heads will roll.  Should start a complaint campaign now, to bolster the number of issues against the parks director.
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: JL on September 22, 2020, 03:04:23 PM
Anyone have any information or inside scoops with ROs on if the range will open this weekend??
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: powder monkey on September 22, 2020, 04:07:33 PM
This Thursday
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: stangzilla on September 22, 2020, 04:08:51 PM
Anyone have any information or inside scoops with ROs on if the range will open this weekend??


open.  I'll be there!   :shaka:
it will be open from thursday

http://www.honolulu.gov/cms-dpr-menu/site-dpr-sitearticles/38579-koko-head-shooting-complex.html
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: macsak on September 22, 2020, 04:14:16 PM



Hi guys,
 
Mayor announced today that the Koko Head Shooting Range & Archery Range can re-open on September 24, 2020.
 
·       Rifle & Pistol Ranges:  Operations will be “walk up”, first come first served.  Just like it was before.  Groups must be limited to 5 persons or less, masks are mandatory and social distance.  No permits allowed till “tier 3” is reached. 
 
·       Skeet & Trap Ranges:  Operations as per usual.  All permits that were issued are void, until “tier 3” is reached.  Probably in a couple of months.
 
·       Metallic Silhouette Range:  to remain closed until further notice.
 
·       Action Ranges:  since these ranges are by permit only.  They will have to wait until “tier 3” is reached.  Whoever owns those trailers need to move them out of the facility!
 
·       Archery Range:  open sun up to sun down.  Groups limited to 5 persons or less.
 
 
Masks are mandatory and practice social distancing.
 
See you guys soon!
 
Aloha,
 
Mike Muramoto
 
Range Master
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: Direjackalope on September 22, 2020, 04:20:08 PM
Can someone spell out what “tier 3” is?
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: stangzilla on September 22, 2020, 04:30:10 PM
Can someone spell out what “tier 3” is?

tier 3 is right after tier 2   :D
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: Direjackalope on September 22, 2020, 04:34:56 PM
For as much sense as anything makes lately it might as well be tier 3 in the Starcraft 2 Terran tech tree. Which would be nice because then we’ll get battle cruisers and I can use the hyperdrive to visit my grandparents more often.
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 22, 2020, 04:40:44 PM
Can someone spell out what “tier 3” is?

Honolulu’s COVID-19 Recovery Framework

Quote
The foundation of the framework rests on four tiers. Each tier is based on the level of community spread of COVID-19 within the
City, which is determined by two criteria: (1) the number of daily cases reported; and (2) the positivity rate, using 7-day averages
for both metrics over two or four week periods, as explained below.

The four tiers are:

Tier 1 — representing a high level of community spread that is testing the limits of the public health system to test, contact trace,
and isolate/quarantine; and puts some strain on the healthcare system.

Tier 2 — representing a level of community spread that is substantial, but still allows the public health system to adequately test,
contact trace, and isolate/quarantine; and does not overburden the healthcare system.

Tier 3 – representing a moderate level of community spread that allows the public health system to fully test, contact trace, and
isolate/quarantine; and does not overburden the healthcare system.

Tier 4—representing a low level of community spread that is easily handled by the public health system and healthcare system.

The matrix of allowed and closed businesses and operations at each tier is attached.

The two determinative metrics for the four tiers are set forth below:

(https://i.imgur.com/Qn4NdkF.jpg)


https://www.eturbonews.com/718021/honolulus-covid-19-recovery-framework/
Title: Re: Kokohead most likely not opening in Sept
Post by: Heavies on September 22, 2020, 05:44:43 PM


Instead of going to the range,  we aught to be firing every one of them. Playing you like chumps. Give you a carrot,  you pull their chariot..