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Title: Navy SEAL Eli Crane TORCHES Media Over Latest Attack On Trump and the Military
Post by: macsak on September 07, 2020, 10:47:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWfEo7ZYnTc
Title: Re: Navy SEAL Eli Crane TORCHES Media Over Latest Attack On Trump and the Military
Post by: eyeeatingfish on September 09, 2020, 08:53:52 PM
I don't know what to believe here. If it were just CNN reporting the story then I would be highly skeptical but even Fox news was reporting it which gives the allegation a bit more credibility.

Who knows though, comes down to a he-said she-said. I could believe Trump made such a comment though, he has made other comments disrespectful to the military before.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL Eli Crane TORCHES Media Over Latest Attack On Trump and the Military
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 09, 2020, 09:02:08 PM
I don't know what to believe here. If it were just CNN reporting the story then I would be highly skeptical but even Fox news was reporting it which gives the allegation a bit more credibility.

Who knows though, comes down to a he-said she-said. I could believe Trump made such a comment though, he has made other comments disrespectful to the military before.

WHAT exactly did the allegation contain?

An unnamed, anonymous source said that Trump said something bad about vets and soldiers TWO YEARS ago?

LOL!  Why is it just now being "reported", and by the Atlantic, of all news rags? 

Is this the same "whistleblower" the House Democrats relied on to unsuccessfully impeach the President?   :rofl: :rofl:


Liberal Reporter Shreds Credibility of Atlantic Editor Peddling
Fake News About Trump Denigrating War Dead


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Even liberal reporters have taken a swipe at The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg, who penned the piece, noting that the
man has been wrong on a whole lot. First, Israel was supposed to have bombed Iran. That never happened. Second,
Goldberg has been one of those folks neck-deep in the Russian collusion delusion. It’s no wonder why Michael Tracey
called Goldberg “the least reliable narrator in all of US journalism.”

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/09/09/liberal-reporter-shreds-credibility-of-atlantic-editor-peddling-fake-news-about-t-n2575782
Title: Re: Navy SEAL Eli Crane TORCHES Media Over Latest Attack On Trump and the Military
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 09, 2020, 09:57:46 PM
Same tactic due to election time. Sexual harrassment next. #believeallwomen

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Title: Re: Navy SEAL Eli Crane TORCHES Media Over Latest Attack On Trump and the Military
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 10, 2020, 12:51:32 PM
The Atlantic editor now backs down as his story is challenged. He even admits the evidence being produced after his article published is more accurate than his anonymously sourced accusations that Trump lied.

But, we all knew that would turn out to be the case.

Well, more like MOST of us did.   :rofl:

https://youtu.be/pJnt4Y73LXE
Title: Re: Navy SEAL Eli Crane TORCHES Media Over Latest Attack On Trump and the Military
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 10, 2020, 12:58:36 PM
I don't know what to believe here. If it were just CNN reporting the story then I would be highly skeptical but even Fox news was reporting it which gives the allegation a bit more credibility.

Who knows though, comes down to a he-said she-said. I could believe Trump made such a comment though, he has made other comments disrespectful to the military before.

No.  It doesn't come down to "he said, she said".

You admitted you are willing to believe Trump made a comment, even though people who were with him have said that never happened.  The evidence from official documentation showing the helicopter was grounded due to weather, and the Secret Service can't feasibly change the President's itinerary to ground transportation.

Most of us know Trump is a supporter of the military, and in particular wounded and killed members.  He gives real, honest respect to them whenever possible.  To use this particular issue to attack him just makes Trump supporters even more determined to get out and vote for him.

Anyone who trusts "anonymous" sources telling bad things about Trump should have learned by now that if the bad things really happened, the people desiring to expose those things would be writing a book about it to make money or secretly giving the details to Adam Schiff.

https://youtu.be/pJnt4Y73LXE
Title: Re: Navy SEAL Eli Crane TORCHES Media Over Latest Attack On Trump and the Military
Post by: drck1000 on September 10, 2020, 01:00:45 PM
Same tactic due to election time. Sexual harrassment next. #believeallwomen

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#mazieiscrazy
Title: Re: Navy SEAL Eli Crane TORCHES Media Over Latest Attack On Trump and the Military
Post by: eyeeatingfish on September 19, 2020, 09:43:40 AM

An unnamed, anonymous source said that Trump said something bad about vets and soldiers TWO YEARS ago?

LOL!  Why is it just now being "reported", and by the Atlantic, of all news rags? 



So if the source made the allegation soon after and publicly identified themselves, then you would believe it?
Title: Re: Navy SEAL Eli Crane TORCHES Media Over Latest Attack On Trump and the Military
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 19, 2020, 10:13:41 AM
So if the source made the allegation soon after and publicly identified themselves, then you would believe it?

The "source" in question has a history of lying about Trump.  The company's owner has TDS.  Do some research.

Given their track record, and the fact that official documentation disproves most of their accusations, I'd say I have more to support my opinion than "source".
Title: Re: Navy SEAL Eli Crane TORCHES Media Over Latest Attack On Trump and the Military
Post by: eyeeatingfish on September 21, 2020, 09:14:41 PM
No.  It doesn't come down to "he said, she said".

You admitted you are willing to believe Trump made a comment, even though people who were with him have said that never happened.  The evidence from official documentation showing the helicopter was grounded due to weather, and the Secret Service can't feasibly change the President's itinerary to ground transportation.

"I didn't hear it" doesn't mean he didn't say it plus I apply the same skepticism to an anonymous source as I do to a Trump staffer. You don't think a Trump staffer has reason to lie as well?



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Most of us know Trump is a supporter of the military, and in particular wounded and killed members.  He gives real, honest respect to them whenever possible.  To use this particular issue to attack him just makes Trump supporters even more determined to get out and vote for him.

Or he pretends to be, who knows?


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Anyone who trusts "anonymous" sources telling bad things about Trump should have learned by now that if the bad things really happened, the people desiring to expose those things would be writing a book about it to make money or secretly giving the details to Adam Schiff.

Anonymous doesn't mean anonymous to the journalist in most cases, it just means anonymous to you and me. A good journalist vets their sources.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL Eli Crane TORCHES Media Over Latest Attack On Trump and the Military
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 22, 2020, 12:30:29 AM
"I didn't hear it" doesn't mean he didn't say it plus I apply the same skepticism to an anonymous source as I do to a Trump staffer. You don't think a Trump staffer has reason to lie as well?



Or he pretends to be, who knows?


Anonymous doesn't mean anonymous to the journalist in most cases, it just means anonymous to you and me. A good journalist vets their sources.

So, you would trust an anonymous whistleblower who denigrates the President of the United States over known people who were with him THE WHOLE TIME and who said Trump never said such a thing, even after the other facts were disproven by official documentation as to travel being cancelled?

You are really some kind of useful idiot with a double helping of TDS if that's how your mind works.

I heard EEF say he hated Gays, Blacks and all Hawaiians whose names start with a "K".

Just because we didn't hear it, doesn't mean you didn't say it.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL Eli Crane TORCHES Media Over Latest Attack On Trump and the Military
Post by: eyeeatingfish on September 25, 2020, 08:21:14 PM
So, you would trust an anonymous whistleblower who denigrates the President of the United States over known people who were with him THE WHOLE TIME and who said Trump never said such a thing, even after the other facts were disproven by official documentation as to travel being cancelled?

You are really some kind of useful idiot with a double helping of TDS if that's how your mind works.

I heard EEF say he hated Gays, Blacks and all Hawaiians whose names start with a "K".

Just because we didn't hear it, doesn't mean you didn't say it.

Straw man. I never said I trusted one report over the other. I pointed out that you are trusting a Trump employee while ignoring the bias there. You only identify bias when it helps your side, you do it all the time. This is just another example how you consistently fail to be objective. Then when I point that out you claim TDS, you behave like a liberal.

I notice how you applied the same level of skepticism about anonymous whistleblower on your posting of the democrat whistleblower on voter fraud as you do to the whistleblower here.... Oh wait, you didn't, you reposted that article readily with no worry it was made by an anonymous person.
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