Post by: Direjackalope on November 07, 2020, 09:56:18 PM
Post by: tim808 on November 08, 2020, 10:06:31 AM
Had a lot of powder
Had large pistol and large rifle primers
Had small magnum primers - I think it was for pistol
For ammo I would call ahead if possible, even then, people are going into panic mode, buying cases, so in the 1 hour between your call and arrival, one or two people of the 10 in line could zero out the item you want
(At j Hara during their sale, I tried to get 6 cases of 22 but they only had 2 cases and 7 bricks. Yes I’m one of those that are panicking - but it’s my family’s fault that they all decided to suddenly take up shooting)
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 08, 2020, 12:09:04 PM
I didn’t check ammo, but at sec:
Had a lot of powder
Had large pistol and large rifle primers
Had small magnum primers - I think it was for pistol
For ammo I would call ahead if possible, even then, people are going into panic mode, buying cases, so in the 1 hour between your call and arrival, one or two people of the 10 in line could zero out the item you want
(At j Hara during their sale, I tried to get 6 cases of 22 but they only had 2 cases and 7 bricks. Yes I’m one of those that are panicking - but it’s my family’s fault that they all decided to suddenly take up shooting)
If you plan on paying with a credit card (don't mind paying the 3% CC fee), you can call most shops and pay in advance if they have what you want. Saves you from that "Last case just walked out the door" disappointment.
Debit cards can save you the 3% fee, but you don't want to use them over the phone unless you don't mind giving them your card's PIN. Only do this if you're a gambler! :rofl:
Post by: tim808 on November 08, 2020, 02:59:00 PM
I am doing that from now on!!
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 08, 2020, 03:05:16 PM
I never thought of buying ammo over the phone with a cc!!!
I am doing that from now on!!
OGC used to do that a lot when they posted ammo sales.
CC was accepted for phone orders, but not Debit. Pick your purchase up when convenient.
Post by: blastoff747 on November 09, 2020, 12:48:02 AM
(At j Hara during their sale, I tried to get 6 cases of 22 but they only had 2 cases and 7 bricks. Yes I’m one of those that are panicking - but it’s my family’s fault that they all decided to suddenly take up shooting)
What time you go? Thought they opened @ 7. Got there before 830 and didnt want to wait till 9. Thought they would have more than that being advertised.
Post by: tim808 on November 09, 2020, 02:09:45 AM
Post by: Trumper on November 09, 2020, 07:01:45 AM
Post by: zippz on November 09, 2020, 08:34:43 AM
Post by: drck1000 on November 09, 2020, 08:50:07 AM
Another one is "you get extra", but that's what the Classifieds for.
Already covered was SEC. Went there over the weekend and they had ammo, just not anything I was looking for.
Went by HGS over the weekend as well, but they had a line outside waiting to get in, so I didn't stop by. May try to run by there this week during off hours.
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 09, 2020, 08:54:41 AM
I heard the indoor ranges increased prices. 808 Gun Club is $30 for a box of 9mm, and Xring is $47.
$30 isn't too bad because the pre Corona prices were $26 for each. For me personally, I refuse to pay more than $20 for ammo at an indoor range. Exception is CCW practice before a trip to Vegas. 808GC allows CCW draw and you don't have to take a class to "qualify". They just watch you for a few mins to make sure you're safe.
SEC is good at calling customers when ammo comes in. I put my name on their list for 9 and 223 and got calls each time.
Post by: Isaac on November 11, 2020, 12:47:28 PM
Post by: drck1000 on November 11, 2020, 12:49:58 PM
Hgs has 9mm and 223 in stockYup. He mentioned that he would post ammo on IG today. Expect LONG lines. Also he doesn't answer the phone, so sent him an email or DM on IG.
Post by: Isaac on November 11, 2020, 01:12:44 PM
Post by: ren on November 11, 2020, 01:15:33 PM
9mm is 90$ for 100rds 223 is 30$ for 20rds
:shake: match 9mm?
Post by: Masamune on November 11, 2020, 01:36:13 PM
I’ll sell off my gold dots or hst for that price
Post by: nahp01 on November 11, 2020, 02:16:15 PM
Post by: zippz on November 11, 2020, 02:21:20 PM
I went to 808 Gun Club today, pretty busy there. Caveat to their $30 box of 9mm, you can only buy one box of 50rnds per party. My 2 friends shot there this morning and split a box of 50 rounds. Was a very quick range session.
Post by: poke on November 11, 2020, 03:51:26 PM
9mm is 90$ for 100rds 223 is 30$ for 20rds
That is absurd. Who is buying at these prices??
Post by: 6716J on November 11, 2020, 04:09:59 PM
@HGS1911
Post by: groveler on November 11, 2020, 04:10:34 PM
I was talking to my cousin in Idaho.
They are ALL out. Unless you have a
non-standard eg 7.63X25 mm.
(C96 Mauser)
regular stuff can't be found unless people are
selling their private stash.
Post by: jc2721 on November 11, 2020, 05:25:47 PM
Post by: stangzilla on November 12, 2020, 04:23:08 AM
That is absurd. Who is buying at these prices??
People who didnt prepare
Post by: QUIETShooter on November 12, 2020, 06:13:38 AM
That is absurd. Who is buying at these prices??
People who didnt prepare
New gun owners also would reluctantly pay these prices to obtain ammo for their new purchase(s). One could argue that they would fall under the "didn't prepare" category.
At this point new gun owners have no choice and just hope they can stumble across some good prices.
Post by: stangzilla on November 12, 2020, 06:58:13 AM
New gun owners also would reluctantly pay these prices to obtain ammo for their new purchase(s). One could argue that they would fall under the "didn't prepare" category.
At this point new gun owners have no choice and just hope they can stumble across some good prices.
Yeah, new shooters too
Speaking of new shooters, had 1 next to me recently shooting a LCR 38sp. I saw him shoot for 1 hour and not 1 hit on the target. IMO, seemed like he just needed to relax and release the death grip, although for a new shooter the LCR is not easy to shoot
Post by: QUIETShooter on November 12, 2020, 07:58:39 AM
Yeah, new shooters too
Speaking of new shooters, had 1 next to me recently shooting a LCR 38sp. I saw him shoot for 1 hour and not 1 hit on the target. IMO, seemed like he just needed to relax and release the death grip, although for a new shooter the LCR is not easy to shoot
Now that you mentioned this, I am guilty of not preparing enough as far as acquiring ammo for my SW29. I did some extensive shooting earlier before the covid thing and never bothered to restock significantly enough for situations we now find ourselves under with shortages, etc.
I haven't shot the revolver in like years, so I was missing the target embarrassingly. I needed to relearn how to grip, relax, etc. The range officer was watching me and offered some advice. He said I needed to stop my flinch.
So I downgraded to special ammo to try to relearn and get better. Then life got in the way and I haven't shot for a while and never bothered to stock up.
Now I'm screwed, lol! I only got 50 rds of special, no magnum rds, and I don't reload. :(
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 08:05:03 AM
People who didnt prepareI haven't bought at those prices, but I got caught in a little bit of an ebb and flow of shooting. I typically have a good amount of ammo on hand and buy when the stash gets to a certain point and I see good prices. Before COVID hit, I had been shooting 9 a lot and was buying often. But for 5.56/.223, I had been shooting some and had not seen prices in "my range". However, instead of buying at inflated prices, I've finally started preparing to handload. Supplies on much of that stuff is also suffering, but I have luckily been able to either find stuff in stock locally and online vendors.
Now that you mentioned this, I am guilty of not preparing enough as far as acquiring ammo for my SW29. I did some extensive shooting earlier before the covid thing and never bothered to restock significantly enough for situations we now find ourselves under with shortages, etc.Like I mentioned above, can start a "I'm looking for ______" thread to help each other out. Since COVID stuff started, I have given ammo to buddies. I've also traded ammo calibers (calibers that I don't shoot very often for calibers that I do) or have sold at what I bought it for. I was also talking/texting with a couple of forum members and long time shooters who were also caught short when COVID hit and we were able to get them setup. In this case, no harm in asking. I don't have much .357 Mag on hand, but I have a good amount of .38 SPL that I could certainly offer to one of the "good guys".
I haven't shot the revolver in like years, so I was missing the target embarrassingly. I needed to relearn how to grip, relax, etc. The range officer was watching me and offered some advice. He said I needed to stop my flinch.
So I downgraded to special ammo to try to relearn and get better. Then life got in the way and I haven't shot for a while and never bothered to stock up.
Now I'm screwed, lol! I only got 50 rds of special, no magnum rds, and I don't reload. :(
Post by: zippz on November 12, 2020, 08:09:35 AM
New gun owners also would reluctantly pay these prices to obtain ammo for their new purchase(s). One could argue that they would fall under the "didn't prepare" category.
At this point new gun owners have no choice and just hope they can stumble across some good prices.
New shooters would likely pay high prices for ammo if they didn't know how much it cost before and ammo costs relatively little compared to the cost of a gun. They also tend to buy small quantities. The regular price for ammo is very low compared to what you're getting:. A well constructed cartridge made of copper, brass, lead, and "explosive" built to tight tolerances. I'd think a 9mm would regularly cost a dollar or two a round if I was a new shooter.
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 08:35:30 AM
New shooters would likely pay high prices for ammo if they didn't know how much it cost before and ammo costs relatively little compared to the cost of a gun. They also tend to buy small quantities. The regular price for ammo is very low compared to what you're getting:. A well constructed cartridge made of copper, brass, lead, and "explosive" built to tight tolerances. I'd think a 9mm would regularly cost a dollar or two a round if I was a new shooter.That is VERY true misconception for new shooters. I was told a long time ago that the firearm is likely to be the cheapest part of getting into shooting. That is for those that shoot regularly and not including heirloom or collector level firearms. Like that Combat Master STI in the classifieds! Damn AWESOME gun for sure and I would say worth a lot of $$$, but I'd also want to shoot the heck out of it!
That new shooters tend to buy ammo in small quantities is also another that I've observed. Many friends ask me to go shooting and they are like, can you pick up ammo the day before. Many view it like preparing for a BBQ, where you pick up stuff a few days before going.
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 12, 2020, 09:00:50 AM
That is VERY true misconception for new shooters. I was told a long time ago that the firearm is likely to be the cheapest part of getting into shooting. That is for those that shoot regularly and not including heirloom or collector level firearms. Like that Combat Master STI in the classifieds! Damn AWESOME gun for sure and I would say worth a lot of $$$, but I'd also want to shoot the heck out of it!
That new shooters tend to buy ammo in small quantities is also another that I've observed. Many friends ask me to go shooting and they are like, can you pick up ammo the day before. Many view it like preparing for a BBQ, where you pick up stuff a few days before going.
The ammo prices have def saved me money because I'm not gonna get my 1911 in 45 anytime soon.
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 09:23:08 AM
The ammo prices have def saved me money because I'm not gonna get my 1911 in 45 anytime soon.Oh don't be a wuss! You scared of a 1911?
:rofl:
Post by: aieahound on November 12, 2020, 09:23:16 AM
Don’t know about 45 ammo though.
Took mine in to get the trigger swapped out.
Fawk. Shoulda looked at ammo. Think I only got like half a can of 45 left now that I think about it.
Picked Up 17hmr though. Still at pre-panic prices.
He said re-stocking and even his wholesale prices currently suck.
He’s the Man though.
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 09:30:55 AM
Gene at HGS got some nice 1911’s in stock for very reasonable prices.I have 500 rounds of "remanufactured" 45 ammo from Bushido Arms that I picked up a while ago in anticipation of shooting more. :geekdanc:
Don’t know about 45 ammo though.
Took mine in to get the trigger swapped out.
Fawk. Shoulda looked at ammo. Think I only got like half a can of 45 left now that I think about it.
Picked Up 17hmr though. Still at pre-panic prices.
The way things are going, dunno how much I will be shooting my 45. :(
Post by: Direjackalope on November 12, 2020, 09:34:26 AM
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 09:45:48 AM
How obscure does stuff have to be to still be in stock at this point? Is there still .22? 410? or is it pretty much all the weird obsolete surplus rounds at this point?I've seen .22 lr in stock at a couple of shops. I saw .22 lr at SEC this past weekend. I'm planning on hitting up a couple other shops tomorrow for some things. I'll try to report what I see. Since you started this thread, are there any particular calibers that you are interested in?
The not wide used ammo thing was a consideration in the ammo rush/shortage in 2012/2013. For a while, only .40 S&W was available. .22lr stock took a licking IIRC.
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 12, 2020, 09:51:47 AM
Gene at HGS got some nice 1911’s in stock for very reasonable prices.
Don’t know about 45 ammo though.
Took mine in to get the trigger swapped out.
Fawk. Shoulda looked at ammo. Think I only got like half a can of 45 left now that I think about it.
Picked Up 17hmr though. Still at pre-panic prices.
He said re-stocking and even his wholesale prices currently suck.
He’s the Man though.
Thanks for the info, but I'm not buying from HGS.
Post by: Direjackalope on November 12, 2020, 09:56:32 AM
I've seen .22 lr in stock at a couple of shops. I saw .22 lr at SEC this past weekend. I'm planning on hitting up a couple other shops tomorrow for some things. I'll try to report what I see. Since you started this thread, are there any particular calibers that you are interested in?
The not wide used ammo thing was a consideration in the ammo rush/shortage in 2012/2013. For a while, only .40 S&W was available. .22lr stock took a licking IIRC.
I think shooting is quickly falling outside of my price range regardless of availability unfortunately. Fortunately I stocked up on mini mags so I'm good for a year or two at my current rate of consumption. At this point I'm probably just following prices as a spectator sport.
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 12:03:10 PM
I think shooting is quickly falling outside of my price range regardless of availability unfortunately. Fortunately I stocked up on mini mags so I'm good for a year or two at my current rate of consumption. At this point I'm probably just following prices as a spectator sport.So you're like this :popcorn:
;D
I understand regarding the impact of ammo pricing on shooting activities. For me, I had been shooting a lot of 9 prior to COVID, so I had stocked up. Then once COVID hit, I wasn't shooting as much. So I'm hoping that I can continue to shoot a bit until I have to really cut back 5.56.223 is similar, but less of a buffer. I'll probably cut back on shooting carbine sooner. I'm also considering picking up a .22 lr rifle to tide me over as well.
Post by: stangzilla on November 12, 2020, 12:05:26 PM
So you're like this :popcorn:
;D
I understand regarding the impact of ammo pricing on shooting activities. For me, I had been shooting a lot of 9 prior to COVID, so I had stocked up. Then once COVID hit, I wasn't shooting as much. So I'm hoping that I can continue to shoot a bit until I have to really cut back 5.56.223 is similar, but less of a buffer. I'll probably cut back on shooting carbine sooner. I'm also considering picking up a .22 lr rifle to tide me over as well.
Or a 22 AR conversion like the CMMG one. Not very accurate at a distance but good for doing drills at close range
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 12:14:14 PM
Or a 22 AR conversion like the CMMG one. Not very accurate at a distance but good for doing drills at close rangeOh yeah. I'm down for one of those. I'm not so concerned about uber accuracy. Though I have long wanted to get a .22 lr bolt action for challenge for accuracy.
Post by: stangzilla on November 12, 2020, 12:15:24 PM
They said they are calling people from the wait list from june or July for AR ammo, so that list is long. I think I went on the list later than that
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 12:20:06 PM
SEC has 22 ammo, 38 spYeah, I saw some FGMM .223 Rem in the back and they mentioned that was all waitlist ammo. I'm on the waitlist for some other ammo and other stuff, but it was good to see ammo on the floor, even if not for me. :(
They said they are calling people from the wait list from june or July for AR ammo, so that list is long. I think I went on the list later than that
Post by: aieahound on November 12, 2020, 01:54:05 PM
.22 is available ? Decent .22 ?
Pretty soon I’m either gonna be into my crap or my match ammo.
Mini mags are running thin.
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 01:59:29 PM
My palmetto dedicated 22 upper is pretty accurate and reliable at 50 yds.I have a bunch of crappy .22 lr that my dad prob bought before I was born. Will they run in semi-autos? Dunno. That was one reason I still would like a BA .22 lr. Been side tracked with the "big brother" version.
.22 is available ? Decent .22 ?
Pretty soon I’m either gonna be into my crap or my match ammo.
Mini mags are running thin.
Post by: stangzilla on November 12, 2020, 03:04:24 PM
My palmetto dedicated 22 upper is pretty accurate and reliable at 50 yds.
.22 is available ? Decent .22 ?
Pretty soon I’m either gonna be into my crap or my match ammo.
Mini mags are running thin.
SEC had 22 standard velocity today, they may have some minimags i'm not sure.
but i'm sure pretty soon 22 will be extinct
Post by: 6716J on November 12, 2020, 03:16:15 PM
SEC had 22 standard velocity today, they may have some minimags i'm not sure.
but i'm sure pretty soon 22 will be extinct
I must have missed you. I just left there.
Didn't see any mini-mags as I like that stuff. Had Stingers and StdVel stuff. Standard velocity was $9.94/box
Post by: stangzilla on November 12, 2020, 03:29:03 PM
I must have missed you. I just left there.
Didn't see any mini-mags as I like that stuff. Had Stingers and StdVel stuff. Standard velocity was $9.94/box
i was there in the morning. i got some standard velocity bc i already have some minimags. i think there will be some tough times ahead for us 2A peeps
i went to pistol range yesterday but quit after about 75 rounds of 45acp bc i dont want to waste ammo. just enough to zero the red dot and shoot some extra for fun and practice. i would usually shoot more but tough times call for ammo restraint. really sucks. :'( :'( :'(
Post by: drck1000 on November 13, 2020, 03:54:13 PM
WGS had quite a bunch of ammo, but I'll call it random. I wasn't there for ammo, but I had a good long look. Had a variety of ammo, but not much of the common calibers. Most common, at least for me were:
30-06 (had quite a bit and variety of that)
AK ammo (guite a bit and variety of that)
.38 SPL (not sure what type)
Didn't see much .22lr, or at least stuff I would buy. Had plenty of random calibers. 6.5 CM, .41 Mag (I already have), etc. So they have, but depends on what you're looking for.
I went for powder and primers. They had the powders I wanted, but limit one per type. The didn't have the primers that I wanted, but they have. They are limiting some of the primers to small amounts.
HGS - Long line outside. Didn't even go in. Just drove by.
Bushido - Pretty much out of common calibers. Usually a consistent source, but he's running on his "emergency" stash for some components.
I was gonna run by Danger Close, but will run by there another day.
Post by: fourover on November 14, 2020, 12:20:47 PM
Post by: Direjackalope on November 14, 2020, 01:09:30 PM
DCT In Stock Ammo: https://danger-close-tactical.square.site/ammunition
vs.
DCT Google Result: https://www.danger-close-tactical.com/
Post by: aieahound on November 14, 2020, 07:06:55 PM
Just ordered 4 boxes of .22.
Didn’t want to horde. Get ‘em while they’re hot.
Bricks were not available.
Hyper velocity CCI. Gonna test those puppies through my M&P pistola.
Post by: Direjackalope on November 14, 2020, 07:17:44 PM
Thanks for links DireJ. :shaka:
Just ordered 4 boxes of .22.
Didn’t want to horde. Get ‘em while they’re hot.
Bricks were not available.
Hyper velocity CCI. Gonna test those puppies through my M&P pistola.
High five! How much? NVM. I see the Velocitors. $7.94 for 50. Nice score.
Post by: jordyisaninja on November 14, 2020, 08:35:22 PM
I noticed Danger Close Tactical changed their website. Unfortunately the google search directs to a store page that I can not for the life of me find a way to navigate to the in-stock ammo page. (I had to go to Dwayne's Facebook to find the link to the ammo page.)
DCT In Stock Ammo: https://danger-close-tactical.square.site/ammunition
vs.
DCT Google Result: https://www.danger-close-tactical.com/
This is nice , do they update when they get 233?
Post by: Direjackalope on November 14, 2020, 08:43:44 PM
This is nice , do they update when they get 233?
It's only one guy with his daughters or wife sometimes helping out so I'm not sure how often he's getting to it. Hopefully somebody who drops by can ask him and report back.
Post by: zippz on November 14, 2020, 10:25:31 PM
Post by: stangzilla on November 14, 2020, 10:55:34 PM
I noticed Danger Close Tactical changed their website. Unfortunately the google search directs to a store page that I can not for the life of me find a way to navigate to the in-stock ammo page. (I had to go to Dwayne's Facebook to find the link to the ammo page.)
DCT In Stock Ammo: https://danger-close-tactical.square.site/ammunition
vs.
DCT Google Result: https://www.danger-close-tactical.com/
Thanks for the link. I ordered some ammo too. I'm running low on $$$ now. ;)
Post by: Inspector on November 15, 2020, 02:09:25 AM
Thanks for links DireJ. :shaka:Damn Hound, do you think you can handle all that added recoil? :rofl:
Just ordered 4 boxes of .22.
Didn’t want to horde. Get ‘em while they’re hot.
Bricks were not available.
Hyper velocity CCI. Gonna test those puppies through my M&P pistola.
Post by: aieahound on November 15, 2020, 09:48:57 PM
I’ll just give it to my daughter.
Might be like shooting dogman’s Hand cannon.
So many things wrong with this post.
(No fawkin comments! :rofl:)
Post by: drck1000 on November 16, 2020, 09:41:51 AM
Thanks for the link. I ordered some ammo too. I'm running low on $$$ now. ;)I have $$$. What you got? Can I get a dime bag of "nino" (code for 9 mm)?
:rofl:
Post by: Jl808 on November 16, 2020, 11:54:56 AM
Post by: stangzilla on November 16, 2020, 12:11:46 PM
I have $$$. What you got? Can I get a dime bag of "nino" (code for 9 mm)?
:rofl:
I got 5 boxes of the 44mag cowboy ammo HST
good stuff. I got some before and was a good comfortable shooting ammo. I would say recoil is in between the 44sp and 44mag. uses starline brass too. price isn't bad either. i'd get more but i get bills to pay too
Post by: drck1000 on November 16, 2020, 12:35:01 PM
I got 5 boxes of the 44mag cowboy ammo HSTI actually have like one box of 44 mag SP and one of the 44 SPL cowboy loads. I don't really forsee shooting my .44 much. If anyone is in dire need, LMK. The 44 Mag is Blazer, to no can reload. :(
good stuff. I got some before and was a good comfortable shooting ammo. I would say recoil is in between the 44sp and 44mag. uses starline brass too. price isn't bad either. i'd get more but i get bills to pay too
Post by: Inspector on November 16, 2020, 01:10:52 PM
High five! How much? NVM. I see the Velocitors. $7.94 for 50. Nice score.I was at Sportsman’s Warehouse today and they had one box of Velocitors that had been pushed behind the “Limit of Ammo Purchase” sign. So I thought I’d try them out. Last time I was there I found a box of of 22 magnums behind the sign. I snagged those ass well. :rofl:
Post by: drck1000 on November 16, 2020, 01:11:45 PM
I was at Sportsman’s Warehouse today and they had one box of Velocitors that had been pushed behind the “Limit of Ammo Purchase” sign. So I thought I’d try them out. Last time I was there I found a box of of 22 magnums behind the sign. I snagged those ass well. :rofl:You ODB. . . :rofl:
Post by: QUIETShooter on November 17, 2020, 08:23:50 AM
I hoped they had .44 specials but they didn't. They had some premium hunting rounds that were too expensive. Besides that, all they had was one box of Blazer HP and about 15 boxes of Federal American Eagle 240 gr. JSP. I bought 3 boxes. $55.20 each.
If anybody needs .44-40 they have 2 or 3 boxes left.
I was in a rush but the ammo shelves looked very empty. I did see some CCI .22's but couldn't make out what type. There was no line when I went at about 2pm. There were about 5 people in the store.
I didn't ask about .223/5.56 and 9mm since it was already reported that there is a wait list. I did ask him if there is a limit on the ammo I was buying and he said not right now and not sure if there will be a limit on the less popular ammo.
I plan to visit WGS to see if they have .44 specials. Then I'll drop by Young Guns to see what kind of .44 mags they have. They already told me they don't have .44 specials right now.
My wife's eyes got real big then narrowed into a mean look when she saw my 3 boxes of ammo. Little does she know I plan to buy more here and there in the future. :love:
Post by: drck1000 on November 17, 2020, 08:27:12 AM
SNIPShe showed objection to 3 boxes? :o
My wife's eyes got real big then narrowed into a mean look when she saw my 3 boxes of ammo. Little does she know I plan to buy more here and there in the future. :love:
That's not even the start of things, is it? O0
Post by: Inspector on November 17, 2020, 08:51:46 AM
She showed objection to 3 boxes? :oMy nephew is still hurting for 9mm since he never stocked up before the panic buying set in. And he goes to class constantly and trains shooting his EDC gun. So Uncle Inspector gave him the last 200 rounds of 9mm I had left. That was on Saturday. So a friend of mine here can’t find 9mm either. And I told him this story last night and he gave me a funny look like I was a complete idiot for giving up every last round of 9mm to my nephew because he didn’t stock up when he had the chance. So I told him not to worry, I already have 600 rounds to replace what I gave my nephew. After he picked his jaw up off the floor he started asking me where I found that much ammo and how much I paid for it and where can he get some.
That's not even the start of things, is it? O0
I guess I never told him previously I roll my own. He started begging me to sell him some and I had to explain that legally I couldn’t do that. He thought I was kidding. But I offered to teach him how to reload. I don’t think he appreciated the offer much. :rofl:
Post by: drck1000 on November 17, 2020, 09:06:34 AM
My nephew is still hurting for 9mm since he never stocked up before the panic buying set in. And he goes to class constantly and trains shooting his EDC gun. So Uncle Inspector gave him the last 200 rounds of 9mm I had left. That was on Saturday. So a friend of mine here can’t find 9mm either. And I told him this story last night and he gave me a funny look like I was a complete idiot for giving up every last round of 9mm to my nephew because he didn’t stock up when he had the chance. So I told him not to worry, I already have 600 rounds to replace what I gave my nephew. After he picked his jaw up off the floor he started asking me where I found that much ammo and how much I paid for it and where can he get some.I've traded and even given some close friends ammo. Other than that, I'm keeping ammo for my use. I am going to start loading for 9, but not for a few months, while I wait for components to come back from backorder. I'm ok on ammo stores for 9 for a while though, so :geekdanc:
I guess I never told him previously I roll my own. He started begging me to sell him some and I had to explain that legally I couldn’t do that. He thought I was kidding. But I offered to teach him how to reload. I don’t think he appreciated the offer much. :rofl:
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 17, 2020, 09:28:49 AM
I've traded and even given some close friends ammo. Other than that, I'm keeping ammo for my use. I am going to start loading for 9, but not for a few months, while I wait for components to come back from backorder. I'm ok on ammo stores for 9 for a while though, so :geekdanc:
I did the same for a close friend who is new. He had a shotty, but no ammo. Gave him a box of slug and a few of bird shot. I don't have enough buck shot to spare. He also got an AR, so gave him a 20rd box of that.
Then that fricken Kommie got an AK, I don't got any ammo for that, so screw him. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: drck1000 on November 17, 2020, 09:30:39 AM
I did the same for a close friend who is new. He had a shotty, but no ammo. Gave him a box of slug and a few of bird shot. I don't have enough buck shot to spare. He also got an AR, so gave him a 20rd box of that.20 rounds of 5.56/.223? That's quite a lot. . . ;D
Then that fricken Kommie got an AK, I don't got any ammo for that, so screw him. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I don't have shotgun ammo. . . (hint hint hint)
Well, maybe like 5 rounds each of buck and slugs and a box of birdshot.
Post by: Inspector on November 17, 2020, 09:35:07 AM
20 rounds of 5.56/.223? That's quite a lot. . . ;DBut shotgun ammo is available every where. So there is no excuse for not having any. At least it is in abundance over here...
I don't have shotgun ammo. . . (hint hint hint)
Well, maybe like 5 rounds each of buck and slugs and a box of birdshot.
Post by: RSN172 on November 17, 2020, 10:59:36 AM
Post by: Rocky on November 17, 2020, 10:59:57 AM
My nephew is still hurting for 9mm since he never stocked up before the panic buying set in. And he goes to class constantly and trains shooting his EDC gun. So Uncle Inspector gave him the last 200 rounds of 9mm I had left. That was on Saturday. So a friend of mine here can’t find 9mm either. And I told him this story last night and he gave me a funny look like I was a complete idiot for giving up every last round of 9mm to my nephew because he didn’t stock up when he had the chance. So I told him not to worry, I already have 600 rounds to replace what I gave my nephew. After he picked his jaw up off the floor he started asking me where I found that much ammo and how much I paid for it and where can he get some.Nice try, Unless he was under 18
I guess I never told him previously I roll my own. He started begging me to sell him some and I had to explain that legally I couldn’t do that. He thought I was kidding. But I offered to teach him how to reload. I don’t think he appreciated the offer much. :rofl:
[&Arizona&] law prohibits anyone from [&selling&] or giving [&ammo&] to an under 18 years old without written consent from the minor’s parent or guardian. [&Arizona&] has no law requiring a license for the [&sale&] of [&ammunition&]. [&Arizona&] has no current law requiring a license to purchase or possess [&ammo&].
Post by: Inspector on November 17, 2020, 11:11:23 AM
Nice try, Unless he was under 18It is under Federal law that I cannot sell my ammunition, not AZ law. The fact that I made the ammunition. And if I sell the ammunition that I made that makes me a manufacturer and that requires an FFL 06 to be a legal manufacturer. I cannot sell my handmade ammunition to anyone legally without it.
[&Arizona&] law prohibits anyone from [&selling&] or giving [&ammo&] to an under 18 years old without written consent from the minor’s parent or guardian. [&Arizona&] has no law requiring a license for the [&sale&] of [&ammunition&]. [&Arizona&] has no current law requiring a license to purchase or possess [&ammo&].
Post by: zippz on November 17, 2020, 11:23:06 AM
Nice try, Unless he was under 18
[&Arizona&] law prohibits anyone from [&selling&] or giving [&ammo&] to an under 18 years old without written consent from the minor’s parent or guardian. [&Arizona&] has no law requiring a license for the [&sale&] of [&ammunition&]. [&Arizona&] has no current law requiring a license to purchase or possess [&ammo&].
Federal law requires a license to manufacture ammunition as a business. You can make ammunition for yourself or give it to someone for free. Feds aren't going to come after you for selling to a family member. Or they could buy the components and you reload it. Or you buy it and they reload it with your equipment.
Bushido would be a better source for info.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 17, 2020, 11:58:59 AM
It is under Federal law that I cannot sell my ammunition, not AZ law. The fact that I made the ammunition. And if I sell the ammunition that I made that makes me a manufacturer and that requires an FFL 06 to be a legal manufacturer. I cannot sell my handmade ammunition to anyone legally without it.
You should do a cost breakdown of prices for basic reloading equipment & ammo components.
Then calculate how many rounds it would require at today's prices for him to reload so it repays that startup cost.
I've seen estimates of about $340 to get started with basic equipment for pistol calibers. Kits containing most of the components included in the $340 list can offer a discount in a wide range of prices and what's included, roughly $150 - $450 price range for a kit.
$340 is about what I see people spending on 1,000 rounds of bulk 9mm, give or take. If your friend has that to spend on ammo, buying reloading gear would be an investment to mitigate shortages and rising prices.
I know the ammo components vary in price, too. You'd be a better judge of what that costs per 1,000 rounds of reloads vs. 1,000 rounds of manufactured ammo.
Anyway, the economics of reloading becomes more enticing as prices increase and availability decreases.
Then again, maybe your friend heard you were giving away ammo, and he only wanted a handout? I've had "friends" like that. Keyword: "had". :rofl:
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 17, 2020, 12:05:57 PM
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 17, 2020, 12:07:03 PM
Nice try, Unless he was under 18
[&Arizona&] law prohibits anyone from [&selling&] or giving [&ammo&] to an under 18 years old without written consent from the minor’s parent or guardian. [&Arizona&] has no law requiring a license for the [&sale&] of [&ammunition&]. [&Arizona&] has no current law requiring a license to purchase or possess [&ammo&].
Massage parlor style. Just leave the cash on the table and walk away. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: Inspector on November 17, 2020, 12:10:23 PM
Massage parlor style. Just leave the cash on the table and walk away. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:Everybody gets a happy ending!!! :love:
Post by: drck1000 on November 17, 2020, 12:16:45 PM
Are the primers, powder, heads still available? I heard in HI, there is a shortage of those too.From what I've seen:
Primers - not a whole lot
Powder - get, but some shops limited
Heads - I've been looking online
Post by: stangzilla on November 17, 2020, 12:27:58 PM
From what I've seen:
Primers - not a whole lot
Powder - get, but some shops limited
Heads - I've been looking online
I ordered several times from https://www.evergladesammo.com/
great bullets. i mostly order pistol projectiles but last 2 orders i did some rifle bullets too and some extra brass. dont really need, but i'm stockpiling as much as i can afford
its a family business, so its packaging is kinda low budget but its packed well and ships pretty fast considering all the covid delays nowadays
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50615217897_42b58315bf_b.jpg)
Post by: macsak on November 17, 2020, 12:30:35 PM
Post by: Inspector on November 17, 2020, 12:48:32 PM
From what I've seen:Primers have dried up a long time ago here on the mainland. I would stock up on these fast and hard if you can. I check every day and SPP and SRP have not been available for months anywhere. I heard the reason is every primer manufactured is being used in 9mm and 223 production. Once they are gone on island it will be a while before you get more in stock. Powder is still shipping but just not in stock in the quantities we are all used to. I would buy when you can find it. If you don’t have 6 months to a years worth of primers you will run out if you don’t slow down your shooting. Heads are not so hard to find. But some manufacturers are always out such as Montana Gold. But the manufacturers that sell plated and powder coated bullets are barely keeping up with demand. If you are willing to pay full retail Sierra, Nosler, Hornady, Speer, etc are still available but may be a little hit and miss at times. Once fired and new brass is readily available. Tho I have noticed certain caliber such as 9mm, 357, 223 and 308 can be hit and miss at times.
Primers - not a whole lot
Powder - get, but some shops limited
Heads - I've been looking online
Post by: drck1000 on November 17, 2020, 01:05:52 PM
Primers have dried up a long time ago here on the mainland. I would stock up on these fast and hard if you can. I check every day and SPP and SRP have not been available for months anywhere. I heard the reason is every primer manufactured is being used in 9mm and 223 production. Once they are gone on island it will be a while before you get more in stock. Powder is still shipping but just not in stock in the quantities we are all used to. I would buy when you can find it. If you don’t have 6 months to a years worth of primers you will run out if you don’t slow down your shooting. Heads are not so hard to find. But some manufacturers are always out such as Montana Gold. But the manufacturers that sell plated and powder coated bullets are barely keeping up with demand. If you are willing to pay full retail Sierra, Nosler, Hornady, Speer, etc are still available but may be a little hit and miss at times. Once fired and new brass is readily available. Tho I have noticed certain caliber such as 9mm, 357, 223 and 308 can be hit and miss at times.I was able to find (or a buddy was able to find) some LFP in stock recently. WGS had some Magtech that they were looking to get rid of, but I already had a bunch already. I'm on waitlist for SPP, but I have a good amount of factory ammo and also buddies that have. I'm still looking for a little more Varget and 8208, but I have a bunch of Titegroup "spoken for".
Extreme didn't have an option for shipping to HI when I checked recently. I have a backorder in for one company and may check out Everglades (thanks to Stang).
Post by: Inspector on November 17, 2020, 01:54:51 PM
I was able to find (or a buddy was able to find) some LFP in stock recently. WGS had some Magtech that they were looking to get rid of, but I already had a bunch already. I'm on waitlist for SPP, but I have a good amount of factory ammo and also buddies that have. I'm still looking for a little more Varget and 8208, but I have a bunch of Titegroup "spoken for".Everglades is a good place. I am testing my first batch of Berry’s Bullets. They appear to be much higher quality than the Speer I just finished giving to my nephew. :rofl: They appear to be similar in quality to Xtreme. So far I was impressed with the Speer in my semi autos but I found them to be wanting when I shot them through my revolver. So no more Speer for me. If these Berry’s do the same as the Speer I am giving up altogether on plated bullets.
Extreme didn't have an option for shipping to HI when I checked recently. I have a backorder in for one company and may check out Everglades (thanks to Stang).
I love all the powders you are trying. Titegroup is my favorite pistol powder followed by Unique.
Let me know how the loading goes.
Post by: pandacrx on November 17, 2020, 04:03:50 PM
Post by: Glasser on November 17, 2020, 07:48:30 PM
Post by: Direjackalope on November 20, 2020, 09:01:49 PM
Post by: wirecounter on November 20, 2020, 09:20:52 PM
:wtf:
These boxes were going for almost 1/10th of that not too long ago . . .
That would mean that my #1 buckshot (if I had any) would be going for around $12.00 each (per shell).
Post by: wirecounter on November 20, 2020, 09:25:03 PM
A friend of mine just bought two boxes of #9 birdshot (25 shells per box) from a LGS for around $62.00 per box = over $125.00. For 50 shells of birdshot!
:wtf:
These boxes were going for almost 1/10th of that not too long ago . . .
That would mean that my #1 buckshot (if I had any) would be going for around $12.00 each (per shell).
Correction: $66.00 per box :shake: :shake: :shake:
Post by: tim808 on November 21, 2020, 07:12:58 AM
I didn’t think about stocking up for trap.
Post by: jc2721 on November 21, 2020, 07:17:02 AM
Correction: $66.00 per box :shake: :shake: :shake:Friends don't let friends shop at certain gun stores... :rofl:
Post by: QUIETShooter on November 21, 2020, 09:35:35 AM
I follow mrgunsandgear he always posting 556 deals that are online but I know it don't help us out at all obviously they don't ship to Hawaii. But there's some decent deals out there Ranier Arms has 1000 round "battle packs" of 556 for 749.99 which is 74 cents a round. There's ammo out there.
Yeah, Hawaii is a pretty messed up place for a gun owner, among other things........
And now Biden, if he becomes president ::) is going to work banning internet sales......
I say buy what you can now wherever you can, however you can.
Post by: raudi on November 21, 2020, 01:25:43 PM
Post by: drck1000 on November 21, 2020, 02:25:49 PM
SEC is selling 100 round bags of 5.56 for $59. 2 bag limit per person per day.Just came from there. They had lots. Good to see them (or other shops) getting ammo in. Selling for price too high for me, but not that bad and can hopefully get some folks that need ammo.
Post by: macsak on November 21, 2020, 02:29:06 PM
Just came from there. They had lots. Good to see them (or other shops) getting ammo in. Selling for price too high for me, but not that bad and can hopefully get some folks that need ammo.
you should have bought and sold in the classifieds for $100 a bag...
Post by: drck1000 on November 21, 2020, 02:34:33 PM
5.56 in stock as mentioned above, but limit on how much per day. I think it was a decent price.
Went by WGS and picked up another can of Varget. Some random primers, but only selling small amounts. Sounded like they were putting together an order of powder and primers when I was there. No idea on timeline, but sounded like they were ordering based on that their supplier was showing as available. So I may swing by there here and there to see when they get their order in.
Overall things still crazy. I’ve been lucky to find reloading supplies that I need locally and online, so hopefully no panic on ammo for me. Some prices I’ve been seeing have been :o ::)
Post by: drck1000 on November 21, 2020, 02:37:05 PM
you should have bought and sold in the classifieds for $100 a bag...Thought never even crossed my mind. But after I left, I was like “I’m sure that 200 rounds could help friends”.
Post by: macsak on November 21, 2020, 02:44:34 PM
Thought never even crossed my mind. But after I left, I was like “I’m sure that 200 rounds could help friends”.
if you had any...
Post by: QUIETShooter on November 21, 2020, 02:48:44 PM
SEC is selling 100 round bags of 5.56 for $59. 2 bag limit per person per day.
Although about a third higher in price before these panic times, I say it's a decent price and I believe will not go lower anytime soon.
Thank you for sharing this information. :shaka:
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 21, 2020, 03:51:42 PM
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Post by: RSN172 on November 21, 2020, 05:38:11 PM
Post by: QUIETShooter on November 21, 2020, 06:38:23 PM
Stock up now, wait 4 months into Biden presidency, sell to desperate people for $2 a round for 223/5.56 and $1 a round for FMJ 9MM. Think like one Pake.
The way Biden wants to heavily tax and restrict the manufacturing and sales of ammunition your prices might just be a bargain.
I plan to buy as much as I can before that jerk takes office.
Post by: Direjackalope on November 23, 2020, 03:12:11 PM
45 acp Hyra Shok 210 grain jhp
224 Valkyrie 75 grain fmj
38 Special +P 125 grain jhp
He's still got some 22LR as well
CCI Pistol Match 40 gr (50 rounds for $10.23 though)
Post by: blastoff747 on November 24, 2020, 12:23:06 AM
Had other brands of 22lr on sale but forget what and how much.
Post by: stangzilla on November 24, 2020, 07:17:18 AM
J.Hara has CCI stinger 22lr $59.90 for 500rds. IDK if that's a good price.
Had other brands of 22lr on sale but forget what and how much.
at least they get
ain't econ101 great? :crazy: :'( :grrr:
Post by: poke on November 24, 2020, 03:52:13 PM
J.Hara has CCI stinger 22lr $59.90 for 500rds. IDK if that's a good price.
Had other brands of 22lr on sale but forget what and how much.
Stinger/Velocitor normally costs more. Not a bad deal
Post by: drck1000 on November 25, 2020, 12:59:15 PM
HGS has ammo in the shelf. Another “random caliber” selection with maybe handful of boxes. Not what I would normally buy, which is 9 and 5.56, and .308. They have some lighter gr .308. Lots of 6/6.5mm, 7mm, .300 WM, 30-06, etc.
Roy’s about the same as HGS. I recall seeing .45 Auto as about the closest I would buy. They had .22, but didn’t see what types. They still had Win LRP, but not much else. No SPP :(
Thought about picking up some 30-06 to shoot my 1903 and then reload for the Garand. Might get there eventually 😝
Post by: drck1000 on December 04, 2020, 01:03:48 PM
Still have 5.56. Selling $13.99/20 (or around there) and I think limit 200. They had a good amount. Lots of .22lr, which I think was std velocity. Some random “other calibers” too, but none that I was looking for. They did have some 30-06, but not really looking to buy that. At least not yet.
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 04, 2020, 02:48:26 PM
Stopped by SEC today to pick up powder. They have lots of powder, both for rifle and pistol. Some primers, but LRM and others that I don’t need.J Hara had Titegroup powder for about $24 on sale. SEC had to get on the phone list for primers & bullet heads
Still have 5.56. Selling $13.99/20 (or around there) and I think limit 200. They had a good amount. Lots of .22lr, which I think was std velocity. Some random “other calibers” too, but none that I was looking for. They did have some 30-06, but not really looking to buy that. At least not yet.
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Post by: changemyoil66 on December 04, 2020, 06:12:59 PM
Stopped by SEC today to pick up powder. They have lots of powder, both for rifle and pistol. Some primers, but LRM and others that I don’t need.Thats a decent price compared to the gougers.
Still have 5.56. Selling $13.99/20 (or around there) and I think limit 200. They had a good amount. Lots of .22lr, which I think was std velocity. Some random “other calibers” too, but none that I was looking for. They did have some 30-06, but not really looking to buy that. At least not yet.
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Post by: aletheuo137 on December 04, 2020, 06:19:37 PM
Thats a decent price compared to the gougers.You might want to hurry, he took the sale price away on one item went back a week later.
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Post by: tim808 on December 04, 2020, 06:58:59 PM
Any shops still have 12 ga target loads? I’ll ring or drop by Roy’s tomorrow to see if they have anything
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 05, 2020, 06:38:35 AM
I usually patronize SEC but I heard they are out of 12 ga target loads (for trap).Let me know I need shot.
Any shops still have 12 ga target loads? I’ll ring or drop by Roy’s tomorrow to see if they have anything
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Post by: tim808 on December 05, 2020, 10:05:16 AM
They have less than a pallet of 12 ga but it is 7-1/2. Out of 8
They expect another pallet of 12 before the existing pallet goes empty
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 05, 2020, 11:22:03 AM
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Post by: tim808 on December 05, 2020, 08:00:46 PM
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 05, 2020, 08:36:52 PM
Sorry, I was only looking 12 ga ammo and small pistol primers. I didn’t ask about shotgun reloading componentsNo problem! Mahalo
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Post by: raudi on December 05, 2020, 09:04:49 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 05, 2020, 10:28:14 PM
what shop is Roy's?
You obviously don't know the secret handshake, so we aren't allowed to divulge that information. :geekdanc:
During the Obama era, when ammo became scarce as hen's teeth, Roy's was a great open-secret location for ammo when all other local sources were totally sold out. Keeping it hush-hush was good for those who needed a box or two at a time for the range. They placed a limit of 2 boxes at that time if memory serves, I think maybe you could buy 4 boxes if you bought 2 calibers x 2 boxes each. I have no idea if that's still the deal. Been awhile.
If you really want to know, I'll PM my PayPal address for a modest donation. :shaka:
Just kidding. It's Roy's Fishing Supply in Aiea near the Goodwill Store. Go down the street that runs next to the Goodwill building as you turn off of Kam Hwy, and bear left as you enter the parking lot at the end of that culdesac.
:thumbsup:
https://www.yelp.com/biz/roys-fishing-supply-aiea
Post by: 808shooter on December 06, 2020, 02:32:19 PM
:'(
Post by: drck1000 on December 07, 2020, 08:18:31 AM
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 07, 2020, 08:37:54 AM
Went by HGS Sat and they had some .308 FGMM 175 gr in stock. Limit 2 and it was a little pricey, but reasonable IMO. They had some other random calibers, but no 9 or 5.56.9mm and 5.56 is gold right now. What about 6.5 creedmoor? Don't have one, hmm...
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Post by: drck1000 on December 07, 2020, 08:40:49 AM
9mm and 5.56 is gold right now. What about 6.5 creedmoor? Don't have one, hmm...I've seen 6.5 CM on shelves in a few places locally. I had been looking at 6.5 CM anyways, so making me think about getting one sooner than later.
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Post by: aletheuo137 on December 07, 2020, 09:05:29 AM
I've seen 6.5 CM on shelves in a few places locally. I had been looking at 6.5 CM anyways, so making me think about getting one sooner than later.Let me know when you find a two for one...
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Post by: SodGod808 on December 07, 2020, 02:25:42 PM
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 07, 2020, 07:00:01 PM
Roy’s has 6.5CM in stockI meant rifles or AR1Os...
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Post by: tim808 on December 07, 2020, 08:01:29 PM
In handgun they had - 380, 10mm, 45, 357mag, 38 spl, 44mag
No 9, 40, 223/556, 762x39 on the shelves
I’m surprised 40sw was out. Didn’t think a lot of people shot 40sw
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 07, 2020, 08:09:22 PM
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Post by: macsak on December 07, 2020, 08:29:42 PM
J Hara jumped the Titegroup to $29. He did that to me before. Oh well. $27 @ SEC
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lol, yeah. i went saturday hoping to buy some "for a friend"
Post by: jd0210 on December 17, 2020, 08:43:11 AM
Post by: drck1000 on December 17, 2020, 08:53:37 AM
aieesh im looking for 223/556Last I saw in LGS was SEC. They were limiting to 200 per person/visit. Dunno if they still have though.
Post by: jd0210 on December 17, 2020, 09:02:29 AM
Last I saw in LGS was SEC. They were limiting to 200 per person/visit. Dunno if they still have though.
yeah i went last sat and they were out, will prolly go check em out again.
Post by: drck1000 on December 17, 2020, 09:04:28 AM
yeah i went last sat and they were out, will prolly go check em out again.Sign up on their waitlist. I am prob on the waitlist for some stuff for a while now, but I was surprised when large rifle primers and a specific powder came in pretty quick after I went on the list.
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 20, 2020, 07:02:57 AM
https://youtu.be/KIgvoJKovIg
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Post by: oldfart on December 20, 2020, 07:43:41 AM
:thumbsup:
Post by: QUIETShooter on December 20, 2020, 07:53:36 AM
I wonder if they purposely sidestepped mentioning anything about 223/556 and 308. Slomo joe, kamala and big brother might be lurking in the shadows.
The CEO mentioned they are making every effort to produce all ammunition and I for one have no reason not to believe him. :thumbsup:
Post by: groveler on December 20, 2020, 08:13:11 AM
Ammo shortage update:Good comment!
https://youtu.be/KIgvoJKovIg
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The ammo problem will only get worse.
If President Harris has her way.
I'd start looking at other sources
outside America.
Post by: RSN172 on December 20, 2020, 05:57:33 PM
Post by: Urusai on December 23, 2020, 08:53:26 PM
Post by: QUIETShooter on December 24, 2020, 09:38:38 AM
5.56 on Kaleo arms 12/23 update
Thanks for sharing this. Much appreciated.
Good comment!
The ammo problem will only get worse.
If President Harris has her way.
I'd start looking at other sources
outside America.
It sure looks like it's headed that way. I checked out Kaleo's website after Urusai's heads up. Yes, the prices are roughly 3 times higher per round.
Even Kaleo mentioned the prices are nuts. I just appreciate them trying to provide ammunition to those that want it.
Who knows what will happen. 556/223 might even get more expensive or just unavailable altogether. For those of us looking for ammo, this might be a tough call.
Post by: luckydog1 on December 25, 2020, 11:55:33 AM
Post by: Mdotweber on December 28, 2020, 01:42:21 PM
When those dudes figure out that there is a huge gap in the market for affordable ammo I can only imagine the outcome. When everything is illegal or near impossible to find, people will adapt and those chinese smugglers are going to make a killing (hell the state lawmakers who are in China's pocket will probably get a hefty kickback as well).
Post by: omnigun on December 28, 2020, 01:58:09 PM
I am in NO WAY implying that I would buy it and would never break any state or federal laws, but there are shipping containers full of fireworks coming from China every year.
When those dudes figure out that there is a huge gap in the market for affordable ammo I can only imagine the outcome. When everything is illegal or near impossible to find, people will adapt and those chinese smugglers are going to make a killing (hell the state lawmakers who are in China's pocket will probably get a hefty kickback as well).
IDK about trusting China smuggled ammo...I think I'll pass at least fireworks you light from afar, not 6inches from my face. We have all seen what can happen when you reload ammo wrong.
Post by: ren on December 28, 2020, 02:04:27 PM
Post by: fishandshoot on December 28, 2020, 06:01:52 PM
But Don’t end up like this guy
https://www.inquisitr.com/216326/viktor-bout-real-lord-of-war-arms-trafficker-sentenced-to-25-years/ (https://www.inquisitr.com/216326/viktor-bout-real-lord-of-war-arms-trafficker-sentenced-to-25-years/)
*no one on this forum does anything illegally:)
Post by: Inspector on December 29, 2020, 02:42:41 AM
It was all brass ammo but the first 13k rounds I bought were not considered reloadable. It was boxer primed but the brass was quite hard and brittle. I would see a lot cracks in the brass after sizing. So I threw away all the brass. Then the last 2k rounds I bought was stated as reloadable on the box. While it was boxer primed, the primer pockets were larger than standard small pistol primer but smaller than large pistol primers. The brass was not as brittle and did not crack when I resized it. But it would not hold a primer. I gave up. It was as cheap as steel cased ammo so I didn’t care.
What did I pay for it? I paid 5 cents a round and then near the end before it was banned from being imported I paid 6 and 7 cents a round and the last case I paid 10 cents a round.
Post by: randay on January 08, 2021, 07:08:53 AM
Post by: Phazuka on January 08, 2021, 07:06:17 PM
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Post by: stangzilla on January 09, 2021, 01:52:51 PM
Has a group buy been suggested Yet through Kaleo Arms?
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http://www.kaleoarms.com/hawaii-ammunition/order
They did an order from December
Hopefully they will do another one soon
Post by: Phazuka on January 10, 2021, 05:29:04 PM
Just got a great deal from Dwayne at Danger Close Tactical for some 7.62x39 norma brass and brown bear subsonics. Throughout covid he has had some of the most consistent, honest and fair pricing. He also has his entire in-store inventory online and available to purchase. If you wanna get in on the ammo drops you gotta add DCT on facebook and/or add yourself to the mailing list via his website.I'll take his website subscription over Facebook anyday.
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Post by: Akubone1 on January 19, 2021, 01:09:13 PM
Post by: aletheuo137 on January 21, 2021, 11:10:17 AM
https://youtu.be/E5zNNk130V0
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Post by: Urusai on January 22, 2021, 06:09:04 PM
Pricey but available.
Post by: MassConfusion on January 22, 2021, 11:51:43 PM
How long would it take to tool up and start producing? If ever there was a business opertunity, I would think this is one. I realize how much of a pain it would be, procuring base materials, setting up machines, permits, hazmat issues, zoning, employee training, hr, paying off politicians, finding investors, did I forget anything?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 23, 2021, 12:05:54 AM
With that video in mind, what would be the sort of logistics of someone starting their own full size production line for let's just say primers.
How long would it take to tool up and start producing? If ever there was a business opertunity, I would think this is one. I realize how much of a pain it would be, procuring base materials, setting up machines, permits, hazmat issues, zoning, employee training, hr, paying off politicians, finding investors, did I forget anything?
Are you talking about a major brand doing this, or starting up a competing brand?
Marketing for a new brand
Taxes
Location (Some states are more firearm/ammo business friendly)
Available labor
Product Liability Insurance
Legal Fees (I imagine legal action to shutdown ammo factories are not uncommon)
Regulatory and ATF compliance
Shipping (commercial carriers, company trucks, ...)
Distribution network
R&D
Quality Control
Physical Security/Surveillance Systems
Infrastructure (Commercial water, sewer, electric and trash pickup costs are different than residential)
Investors?? Stock offering??
Labor is a huge cost for any production/factory business. Having a large population of low-skill labor helps keep wages affordable.
Automation can help, but requires more startup capital.
Need higher-paid people with training and experience to setup and run the production line, manage ordering and shipping, setup QA processes and so on.
Post by: MassConfusion on January 23, 2021, 12:19:41 AM
Are you talking about a major brand doing this, or starting up a competing brand?I'll take that as a probably not going to happen, especially around here. I guess nothing is easy. Wonder if it even would be worth while.
Marketing for a new brand
Taxes
Location (Some states are more firearm/ammo business friendly)
Available labor
Product Liability Insurance
Legal Fees (I imagine legal action to shutdown ammo factories are not uncommon)
Regulatory and ATF compliance
Shipping (commercial carriers, company trucks, ...)
Distribution network
R&D
Quality Control
Physical Security/Surveillance Systems
Infrastructure (Commercial water, sewer, electric and trash pickup costs are different than residential)
Investors?? Stock offering??
Labor is a huge cost for any production/factory business. Having a large population of low-skill labor helps keep wages affordable.
Automation can help, but requires more startup capital.
Need higher-paid people with training and experience to setup and run the production line, manage ordering and shipping, setup QA processes and so on.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 23, 2021, 12:42:10 AM
I'll take that as a probably not going to happen, especially around here. I guess nothing is easy. Wonder if it even would be worth while.
You'd still have to compete with ammo shipped from other places, once the shortage is over. With the cost of running any business in Hawaii -- excise taxes, storage, permits for powder and primers (OGC doesn't bother to stock powder and primers because of the crazy regulations) -- and the high cost of labor here vs, say, Mexico, I doubt you'd be in business for long.
Look at how few factory jobs there are in Hawaii. Just getting raw materials or parts is going to drive up the cost of finished goods.
We do hospitality and tourism. This is not a state known for its industrial base.
That's not even touching on the environmentalist whackos and anti-gun idiots doing all they can think of to shut you down.
Hawaii needs to diversify their economy, but I don't see ammo manufacturing being well received.
"Aloha Ammo. Shoots, Brah!"
Post by: zippz on January 23, 2021, 07:02:25 AM
With that video in mind, what would be the sort of logistics of someone starting their own full size production line for let's just say primers.Primers are the hardest thing to make and transport. You're handling sensitive explosives. So not going to see primer plants pop up all of a sudden.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210123/5ed0824c18fe0e37e3ea85fb262de3dd.jpg)
How long would it take to tool up and start producing? If ever there was a business opertunity, I would think this is one. I realize how much of a pain it would be, procuring base materials, setting up machines, permits, hazmat issues, zoning, employee training, hr, paying off politicians, finding investors, did I forget anything?
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Post by: changemyoil66 on January 23, 2021, 09:19:26 AM
You'd still have to compete with ammo shipped from other places, once the shortage is over. With the cost of running any business in Hawaii -- excise taxes, storage, permits for powder and primers (OGC doesn't bother to stock powder and primers because of the crazy regulations) -- and the high cost of labor here vs, say, Mexico, I doubt you'd be in business for long.Many been saying diversify for decades now. Gambling bill comes up and many "hawaiians" say no. Same with pakalolo bills.
Look at how few factory jobs there are in Hawaii. Just getting raw materials or parts is going to drive up the cost of finished goods.
We do hospitality and tourism. This is not a state known for its industrial base.
That's not even touching on the environmentalist whackos and anti-gun idiots doing all they can think of to shut you down.
Hawaii needs to diversify their economy, but I don't see ammo manufacturing being well received.
"Aloha Ammo. Shoots, Brah!"
These people are morons.
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Post by: dogman on January 29, 2021, 09:31:57 PM
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 29, 2021, 10:09:02 PM
My boss went to Roy's today to pick up 9mm, two box limit, $16.00 / box.Wheres this?
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Post by: ren on January 29, 2021, 10:14:23 PM
Post by: macsak on January 29, 2021, 10:32:47 PM
Wheres this?
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first rule about roy's
don't talk about roy's...
Post by: dogman on January 29, 2021, 10:49:42 PM
Wheres this?
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first rule about roy'sHe doesn't know the secret
don't talk about roy's...
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 30, 2021, 11:27:10 AM
He doesn't know the secretI did a leg rub and it didnt work.handshakefist bump.
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Post by: GlockNewb on January 30, 2021, 12:10:26 PM
I did a leg rub and it didnt work.
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Was it in the pool? Might’ve worked better if it was in the pool...
https://youtu.be/3DbE2SmV2bs
Post by: tim808 on January 30, 2021, 12:24:12 PM
It was about $50 for a brick in November. I’ve heard it is now like $80-100 for a brick....is that right?
Post by: Mdotweber on January 30, 2021, 01:00:43 PM
For the places that still have 22lr, what is the going rate?
It was about $50 for a brick in November. I’ve heard it is now like $80-100 for a brick....is that right?
YG's rationed you to two hundred rounds but I think I payed $7 (100rd) for minimags.
Post by: HeliosRX8 on January 30, 2021, 01:15:54 PM
For the places that still have 22lr, what is the going rate?
It was about $50 for a brick in November. I’ve heard it is now like $80-100 for a brick....is that right?
That’s about right per the Classifieds section
Post by: QUIETShooter on January 30, 2021, 07:43:23 PM
YG's rationed you to two hundred rounds but I think I payed $7 (100rd) for minimags.
That's a good price. I paid $10 per 100 mini-mags. At another LGS. I thought the $10 was fair, considering.
Post by: RSN172 on January 31, 2021, 09:35:12 AM
Post by: QUIETShooter on January 31, 2021, 12:06:27 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 31, 2021, 01:08:23 PM
If they have orders being filled at prices from 6-12 months ago, you're lucky. Assuming they don't jack add a bit more profit for current market, you'll get the pre-craziness pricing until that delivery is gone.
Anything ordered after that is subject to whatever the manufacturer's and distributors charge. I posted a comment on another topic saying how one company announced a 3-15% price hike in April 2021. Any preexisting orders will be adjusted for the new prices after a given date. So, ordering early may not protect against all increases in prices.
Then there are the distributors. They can put older orders at the bottom of the pile. When the newer (more expensive) orders are filled, then they'll fill the ones at older prices -- you hope. There seems to be no real protection against price fluctuations. You order at high prices, you might lose money if prices drop. If you order at lower prices and prices rise, they could delay your order for a long time.
Anyway, if YG or any shop sells at lower prices than the market is bringing, it's probably because they ordered it at pre-COVID/pre-BLM/pre-Biden prices. Once it's gone, IF they can get more, it won't be that cheap until the market balances out again.
That's part hear-say, and part my opinion. It's my understanding FWIW.
Post by: zippz on January 31, 2021, 01:56:42 PM
Post by: tim808 on January 31, 2021, 10:15:26 PM
I’m kind if shocked that non mini mag is now going for about $80/brick. I don’t recall 22lr being that expensive after sandy hook but my memory isn’t the greatest
I guess I’ll take up archery and play more tennis
Post by: zippz on February 18, 2021, 11:58:50 AM
https://www.federalpremium.com/this-is-federal/podcast/
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 18, 2021, 12:09:23 PM
Remington Podcast on what they're doing about ammo
https://www.federalpremium.com/this-is-federal/podcast/
Can you post synopsis so I don't have to watch it?
Post by: macsak on February 18, 2021, 12:25:10 PM
Can you post synopsis so I don't have to watch it?
focus
Post by: zippz on February 18, 2021, 12:56:16 PM
Can you post synopsis so I don't have to watch it?
Remington was not making much ammo in the past because of the ammunition surplus in the past couple years wasn't profitable for the bankrupt Remington. The company was bought in October and they are now ramping up for full production which takes time, and there is a shortage of raw resources making it difficult. Even stuff like the coin shortage is competing for resources. There's a shortage on primers so they are filling ammunition production needs before selling to reloaders.
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 18, 2021, 01:20:42 PM
focus
More like Lazy.
Focus...
Post by: drck1000 on February 18, 2021, 01:28:26 PM
More like Lazy.Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
Focus...
Post by: 6716J on February 18, 2021, 02:14:16 PM
Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
Wait..... you mean I've been doing it wrong the whole time?
Post by: Inspector on February 18, 2021, 02:21:33 PM
Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.You should know! :P
Post by: drck1000 on February 18, 2021, 02:32:39 PM
Wait..... you mean I've been doing it wrong the whole time?You ain't alone braddah! ;D
You should know! :PEh! Who you calling drunk? :rofl:
Post by: Q on February 18, 2021, 08:16:46 PM
Used to pick up cases from SEC for about $60, but haven't had time to go down and check out what's available or give them a call.
Post by: Akubone1 on February 19, 2021, 06:24:11 AM
Post by: QUIETShooter on February 19, 2021, 06:33:09 AM
Young Guns had 223 & 556 yesterday. No bulk boxes only 20 round boxes.
Thanks for the heads up.
Post by: Rocky on February 19, 2021, 07:34:01 AM
Can anyone confirm if any dealers still have #7-7.5 low brass birdshot?Long time, no see/hear
Used to pick up cases from SEC for about $60, but haven't had time to go down and check out what's available or give them a call.
Nice to see your still alive. :wave:
Post by: Q on February 19, 2021, 03:36:50 PM
Long time, no see/hear
Nice to see your still alive. :wave:
Likewise 🤙
Post by: mikeps2006 on February 20, 2021, 08:09:53 AM
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Post by: oldfart on February 20, 2021, 08:25:27 AM
Anywhere got 9mm rounds...
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Is the supply that bad?
Post by: mikeps2006 on February 20, 2021, 08:58:01 AM
...Maybe I should rephrase lol. Who knows where get the best was for 9mm rounds
Is the supply that bad?
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Post by: aletheuo137 on February 20, 2021, 04:57:02 PM
Maybe I should rephrase lol. Who knows where get the best was for 9mm roundsJ Hara had unprimed cases and powder, good luck finding the rest.
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Post by: QUIETShooter on June 20, 2021, 08:55:37 AM
Last post was in February so just wondering if anyone visited any LGS and scoped out prices and ammo availability.
Haven't been able to go out and check it out for myself. Mostly interested in .44 mag, .44 special, 5.56/.223 and .22 LR.
Thanks for any input. :shaka:
Post by: changemyoil66 on June 20, 2021, 09:15:25 AM
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Post by: Urusai on June 25, 2021, 02:45:15 PM
Post by: poke on June 25, 2021, 06:02:53 PM
Young guns and prime posted 9mm in stock today.
What's does 9mm go for these days?
Post by: Omglol on June 25, 2021, 06:07:44 PM
What's does 9mm go for these days?
39.99 a box. Someone posted on their ig comments
Post by: RSN172 on June 25, 2021, 10:58:14 PM
39.99 a box. Someone posted on their ig commentsThe last time I bought 9MM ammo was 124 gr FMJ Blazer Brass at Front Sight in Oct 2019 for $7.25 and I thought that was expensive. But I also used to think paying almost $4 for a box of 20 7MM REM MAG in 1967 was expensive.
Post by: dogman on June 26, 2021, 08:04:37 PM
39.99 a box. Someone posted on their ig comments
The last time I bought 9MM ammo was 124 gr FMJ Blazer Brass at Front Sight in Oct 2019 for $7.25 and I thought that was expensive. But I also used to think paying almost $4 for a box of 20 7MM REM MAG in 1967 was expensive.
Guy at work came back from Young Guns after lunch yesterday with two boxes of 9mm, said he paid $40 a box, limit two boxes. He was going back today for two more boxes to shoot tomorrow. I sold him two boxes for $20 a box, saved him half his $$$ and doubled my $$$.
Post by: poke on June 26, 2021, 11:57:43 PM
39.99 a box. Someone posted on their ig commentsPeople need to stop buying at these prices so prices will come down... :wtf:
Post by: pukas84 on June 27, 2021, 03:40:40 PM
People need to stop buying at these prices so prices will come down... :wtf:
If you are in need of bullets where else can you get them? We are kind of stuck in paying what ever LGS is charging.
Post by: aletheuo137 on June 27, 2021, 07:05:29 PM
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Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 27, 2021, 07:07:37 PM
You could start reloading!
Now he's going to need a "who has reloading supplies in stock" thread!
Post by: pukas84 on June 27, 2021, 09:09:07 PM
You could start reloading!
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True, but now who has small pistol primers in stock? lol
Post by: RSN172 on June 27, 2021, 11:17:53 PM
Post by: aletheuo137 on June 28, 2021, 07:43:51 AM
True, but now who has small pistol primers in stock? lolOr airsoft but yes it's tough. There is many on this forum that has helped me out!
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Post by: 808Hunta on June 28, 2021, 05:10:26 PM
If you are in need of bullets where else can you get them? We are kind of stuck in paying what ever LGS is charging.
While you are right in that respect, I think we as a community SHOULD do what we can to help each other out. IF we as a community came together to help each other out. It would make it more bearable for a lot of us. For those who have factory chamberings they at least have the possibility of having a LGS having some in stock. For ppl like me, l HAVE TO reload due to a lot of my chamberings are for wildcat cartridges. So l dont even have the possibility of walking into a gunshop and finding some 338-408 CT or 30-416 Rigby on the shelf lol.
But if a fellow shooter/hunter is in need and we can help them out then we should. If can, can but if no can, no can! I try to help others if l can in any way l can. Up until now I've GIVEN AWAY over 50K primers and 150# of powder to others in need. I've asked nothing in return other than not to resell what I've given. I've met great ppl and made great friends in doing so and that is worth its weight in gold.
That being said it's gonna be a rough ride. I hope it gets better asap and hope we stick together and help each other thru these trying times!!
Press on!!!
Post by: stangzilla on June 30, 2021, 09:57:30 AM
but they do have really good beef jerky. desert star beef jerky. soft kind jerky. highly recommend that jerky :geekdanc:
Post by: drck1000 on June 30, 2021, 10:50:24 AM
While you are right in that respect, I think we as a community SHOULD do what we can to help each other out. IF we as a community came together to help each other out. It would make it more bearable for a lot of us. For those who have factory chamberings they at least have the possibility of having a LGS having some in stock. For ppl like me, l HAVE TO reload due to a lot of my chamberings are for wildcat cartridges. So l dont even have the possibility of walking into a gunshop and finding some 338-408 CT or 30-416 Rigby on the shelf lol.808Hunta is awesome! Walks the walk and HELPS! Super duper generous and super cool guy!
But if a fellow shooter/hunter is in need and we can help them out then we should. If can, can but if no can, no can! I try to help others if l can in any way l can. Up until now I've GIVEN AWAY over 50K primers and 150# of powder to others in need. I've asked nothing in return other than not to resell what I've given. I've met great ppl and made great friends in doing so and that is worth its weight in gold.
That being said it's gonna be a rough ride. I hope it gets better asap and hope we stick together and help each other thru these trying times!!
Press on!!!
Inspiration for the "pay it forward" thread. I had wanted to do it for a while, but 808Hunta's generosity spurred me to make it happen. Which reminds me, need to resurrect that one. Want to pay forward and honor the generosity 808Hunta extended to me (and others).
Post by: 808Hunta on June 30, 2021, 10:40:35 PM
BTW, l still have the Reloder 15 for you lol
Wish you all the best in your reloading endeavors brother 🙏🏾
Post by: RSN172 on July 01, 2021, 08:57:46 AM
Post by: Urusai on July 24, 2021, 07:19:31 PM
Post by: QUIETShooter on July 25, 2021, 07:02:26 AM
So maybe that was part of the reason but we had a no rushed discussion of the various handguns they had. It's amazing that you can have your mind set on one particular gun then change your mind when you get to handle and discuss the other types available.
Anyway, the only 5.56/.223 they had at that time was Federal "Power Shok" 55 grain SP in .223. One box was $29.95 for 20.
Anyone know how much that ammo was going for pre-Covid ammo shortage? Also is this considered "good stuff?" Seems like a rip off price to me but I bought 1 box in thanks for their time discussing handguns.
Plus I like to have different types of ammo of the same caliber instead of just range/bulk ammo.
Post by: dv808 on July 25, 2021, 07:15:31 AM
I went YG last week, just to see what kinds of handguns they had. They weren't that busy plus they limit how much people in the store but there was nobody outside.Those Federal Powershoks aren't considered target ammo. Most people use them for hunting as they're soft points meant to expand upon impact. Most range loads are typically full metal jacket (FMJ) that don't need the ability to expand. I think that price is about par for the times. Pre-pandemic price would probably been around $20 or just under. In the calibers that I've used for hunting, they were accurate enough and got the job done. For 223, if not for hunting, I'd save them for self defense.
So maybe that was part of the reason but we had a no rushed discussion of the various handguns they had. It's amazing that you can have your mind set on one particular gun then change your mind when you get to handle and discuss the other types available.
Anyway, the only 5.56/.223 they had at that time was Federal "Power Shok" 55 grain SP in .223. One box was $29.95 for 20.
Anyone know how much that ammo was going for pre-Covid ammo shortage? Also is this considered "good stuff?" Seems like a rip off price to me but I bought 1 box in thanks for their time discussing handguns.
Plus I like to have different types of ammo of the same caliber instead of just range/bulk ammo.
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Post by: QUIETShooter on July 25, 2021, 07:31:19 AM
Those Federal Powershoks aren't considered target ammo. Most people use them for hunting as they're soft points meant to expand upon impact. Most range loads are typically full metal jacket (FMJ) that don't need the ability to expand. I think that price is about par for the times. Pre-pandemic price would probably been around $20 or just under. In the calibers that I've used for hunting, they were accurate enough and got the job done. For 223, if not for hunting, I'd save them for self defense.
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Yeah, that's my plan as far as what I would use them for (as defense ammo). Next time I visit YG I might buy another box (for some reason they only limited me to one box) and shoot some to see how they are.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 25, 2021, 01:36:58 PM
So maybe that was part of the reason but we had a no rushed discussion of the various handguns they had. It's amazing that you can have your mind set on one particular gun then change your mind when you get to handle and discuss the other types available.My son in law and I went shooting 2 weeks ago. He'd held all the handguns in my safe, and we took the top 6 that he thought he might like to have.
At the range, he ran 2 mags through the 6 guns in order of "most liked" to "least liked". Turned out that his "most liked" before shooting was his "least liked" (ranked dead last) after shooting.
Even if you think you like a gun when handling it at the gun shop, you never really know until you shoot it. Of course, if you're one of those guys who buys handguns 2-4 times a year which then get sold in a year or two as UNFIRED so you can afford the next gun on your list, it really doesn't matter if it might have felt good shooting. :geekdanc:
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Anyway, the only 5.56/.223 they had at that time was Federal "Power Shok" 55 grain SP in .223. One box was $29.95 for 20.
Anyone know how much that ammo was going for pre-Covid ammo shortage? Also is this considered "good stuff?" Seems like a rip off price to me but I bought 1 box in thanks for their time discussing handguns.
Plus I like to have different types of ammo of the same caliber instead of just range/bulk ammo.
If you think prices are dropping and supply is catching up to demand, better to buy individual boxes now versus bulk cases. As prices fall, just buy what you need until you see a good deal on bulk close to pre-Covid prices.
If you're using a full case every month or so, that's different. I'm talking about buying a case and using it over many months. You'll save money by waiting to buy larger quantities, even if that means you aren't getting the bulk discount (assuming there is one).
Post by: QUIETShooter on July 25, 2021, 04:03:00 PM
I was asking him how come his ammo shelves are so sparse (he had only 1 type .223 ammo and no 5.56) when I see lots of guys on the internet posting videos of the ammo stores with returning ample stocks of all types of ammo.
He said they repeatedly submit their orders to the suppliers and are relegated to whatever they send. He said the suppliers tend to supply the big box retailers and the small gun shops get whatever is leftover.
He also said they order firearms also and many times there just isn't any firearms available.
Post by: Akubone1 on August 05, 2021, 03:02:45 PM
Post by: Omglol on August 05, 2021, 04:38:47 PM
OGC posted 9mm Blazer 115gr. They selling $30/bx 50 round. Look like they had plenty. But I bet it might sell fastSold out by 3:50
Post by: HeliosRX8 on August 05, 2021, 04:59:27 PM
I just recalled what the guy at YG was telling me and I thought I'd share this. (And I'm not sure if he was just telling me something to hear just to satisfy my curiosity.)
I was asking him how come his ammo shelves are so sparse (he had only 1 type .223 ammo and no 5.56) when I see lots of guys on the internet posting videos of the ammo stores with returning ample stocks of all types of ammo.
He said they repeatedly submit their orders to the suppliers and are relegated to whatever they send. He said the suppliers tend to supply the big box retailers and the small gun shops get whatever is leftover.
He also said they order firearms also and many times there just isn't any firearms available.
They must have just gotten a shipment cause yesterday I stopped by and had lots of .223 and 5.56 and 9mm fmj and defensive.