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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: aieahound on November 15, 2020, 06:20:21 PM
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Been stocking upon .22.
In case of a zombie apocalypse, will a head shot with a .22 do the trick ?
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an excerpt from Max Brook's book "Zombie survival guide", great book
8. .22-CALIBER RIMFIRE WEAPONS
These weapons (rifle or pistol) fire a round no wider than a few millimeters
and no longer than an inch. In normal circumstances it is usually relegated to
practice, competition, or the hunting of small game. In an attack by the
undead, however, the diminutive .22 rimfire stands proudly alongside its
heavier cousins. The small size of its rounds allows you to carry three times
as much ammunition. This also makes the weapon itself lighter, a godsend on
long treks through ghoulinfested territory. The ammunition is also easy to
manufacture and plentiful throughout the country. No shop that sells any kind
of ammunition would fail to stock .22 rimfire. Two disadvantages present
themselves, however, when the use of a .22 is considered. The small round
has zero stopping power. People (including former President Reagan) have
been shot with .22s and not even realized it until later. A ghoul taking a round
to the chest would not even be slowed, let alone stopped, by this puny
projectile. Another problem is the lack of skull penetration at longer ranges.
With a .22, you might have to get a little too close for comfort, a fact that
could increase stress and degrade the odds of a kill. By the same token, the
lack of power in a round fired by a .22 has been called a blessing in disguise.
Without the force to punch through the back of a zombie’s skull, .22 bullets
have been known to ricochet inside the brain case, doing as much damage as
any .45. So when it comes time to arm yourself against a looming zombie
menace, do not discount the small, almost toylike nature of this nimble,
efficient firearm.
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Haha this will be interesting
If they regenerate like nemesis then nope. Gotta use a 12 ga. Or helicopter
Purely hypothetical:
If zombies are already dead, living dead, whatever then wouldnt their brain be pointless? Maybe a simple machete cutting the head off would be a better option. Shooting one side of the brain will stop a zombie from functioning on 1 side of the body. Shoot both sides then itll stop sending nerve signals to both sides. Shoot the head from the side and the chances of hitting both sides of the brain greatly increases .
Super funny cause i was just watching "warm bodies" a few days ago. Apparently zombies dont have blood pumping in their body. So how would muscles move?
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Enclose home with treadmills. Problem solved.
A shot of any caliber to the chest of a zombie wont stop it. So 22 to the chest is moot.
In the world of zombies, headshots stop them. So as long as the 22 can penetrate the skull, it will work. The down side is effective range. My 18 inch barrel with a 50 yard zero, at 100 yards, the 22 drops 7 inches. And wind can easily move the bullet left or right. So a 22 for CQB is ideal. Idk about penetration at 50 yrds though.
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Yes, just may need to do a double or triple tap
Then use the butt stock and foul language after it bites you
:-)
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https://youtu.be/w4sWxsrEFFs
Rule #2
Don’t be stingy with the ammo. Double tap.
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Yeah, .22's to the head should do the trick. Double tap to make sure.
I can see eventually being overwhelmed by them. I guess I'll side carry my SW29 and if that time comes finish off 5 of them with my SW29 then save the last round for me.
The thought of them chewing on my ding-a-ling while fighting to my last breath is too much for me to handle. :crazy:
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I vote for 357.
As jordy pointed out, the skull is very hard....hence the phrase "ho! Dat boy so hard head!".
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The good thing about 22 is little to no recoil. So the PS90 in 22 would be a good choice. Small mags and holds lots of ammo. But carry Beowulf slung around the back just incase you meet those lickers from Resident Evil where head shots do not work. Maybe just 2 spare mags.
And CARDIO, LOTS OF CARDIO.
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The good thing about 22 is little to no recoil. So the PS90 in 22 would be a good choice. Small mags and holds lots of ammo. But carry Beowulf slung around the back just incase you meet those lickers from Resident Evil where head shots do not work. Maybe just 2 spare mags.
And CARDIO, LOTS OF CARDIO.
This is my one wish from FN. Make a ps90 in 22lr. Would be one of the first pre-orders if they did.
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.357 Mag, stainless Colt revolver, just like Rick Grimes. I actually hated his character overall, but damn he was an excellent shot! Barrel pointed towards the gut level, but always making head shots! Damn that boy was good! ;D
Which zombies were you referring to? World War Z? TWD? Thriller? :P
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This is my one wish from FN. Make a ps90 in 22lr. Would be one of the first pre-orders if they did.
How does that apply to the topic?
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.357 Mag, stainless Colt revolver, just like Rick Grimes. I actually hated his character overall, but damn he was an excellent shot! Barrel pointed towards the gut level, but always making head shots! Damn that boy was good! ;D
Which zombies were you referring to? World War Z? TWD? Thriller? :P
I think if I was going to have pistols for survival, a large caliber revolver and smaller caliber (very common, easy to find ammo) pistol would be in my arsenal. A .357 makes sense, because you have caliber options: .357 Magnum and a number of .38 Special varieties. Better options against a few living humans threatening you than a .22.
Rick wasn't killed. So, just like The Terminator, he'll be back!! Lucky you! :rofl:
I liked the bar scene where Rick quick-drew on two guys that were obviously trying to get intel out of Rick, Hershel and Glenn -- one guy in front of him behind the bar, and the other on his 6. It was over before Glenn or Hershel knew what was happening.
"I hear Nebraska is nice." :rofl:
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This is my one wish from FN. Make a ps90 in 22lr. Would be one of the first pre-orders if they did.
They do make 1. Someone posted theirs for sale in the classifieds.
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.357 Mag, stainless Colt revolver, just like Rick Grimes. I actually hated his character overall, but damn he was an excellent shot! Barrel pointed towards the gut level, but always making head shots! Damn that boy was good! ;D
Which zombies were you referring to? World War Z? TWD? Thriller? :P
I never got past the 1st episode. To me if there is zero law and someone is doing racist stuff and attacking you, then what the hell you waiting for to defend yourself? The show lost me after that scene.
But I saw meme's of the eye line for his revolver.
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They do make 1. Someone posted theirs for sale in the classifieds.
I have one wish -- that people who are about to post something they know little about were not too lazy to verify their facts first.
I know .... wish in one hand and shit in the other -- see which one gets full quicker.
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I never got past the 1st episode. To me if there is zero law and someone is doing racist stuff and attacking you, then what the hell you waiting for to defend yourself? The show lost me after that scene.
But I saw meme's of the eye line for his revolver.
The "survival of the fittest" comes into play. If you're not able to defend yourself, you're alive because others allow it or help you. A very complicated dynamic, since most of the people were civilized and accustomed to rules of the old society. It takes some time to devolve.
Then there's the "an armed society is a polite society" aspect. You are foolish to attack anyone you aren't sure you can take. Otherwise, that will probably be your last mistake.
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I think if I was going to have pistols for survival, a large caliber revolver and smaller caliber (very common, easy to find ammo) pistol would be in my arsenal. A .357 makes sense, because you have caliber options: .357 Magnum and a number of .38 Special varieties. Better options against a few living humans threatening you than a .22.
Rick wasn't killed. So, just like The Terminator, he'll be back!! Lucky you! :rofl:
I liked the bar scene where Rick quick-drew on two guys that were obviously trying to get intel out of Rick, Hershel and Glenn -- one guy in front of him behind the bar, and the other on his 6. It was over before Glenn or Hershel knew what was happening.
"I hear Nebraska is nice." :rofl:
I always wanted a .357 revolver for when we went fishing and camping on long hikes in WA. Matched with a lever action. Well, I got the pistol part. Now the lever.
Eff that. Rick was blown up, eaten up, or both. . . >:( Haha. He'll probably make a return with that group with the three rings. . . ;D
I wish Rick was killed off before Glenn and Hershel. . .
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I never got past the 1st episode. To me if there is zero law and someone is doing racist stuff and attacking you, then what the hell you waiting for to defend yourself? The show lost me after that scene.
But I saw meme's of the eye line for his revolver.
Did you watch Fear the Walking Dead? There's a point where folks didn't know what's going on, let alone those who were prepared and those who weren't. It's not like you already know what a zombie is. Well, maybe you can. . . ;D
And Rick's execution was flawless. One shot, one zombie. Nevermind the reloads in less than a blink of an eye. And those ARs they had at one of the communities! They had the 100 round endless clipazines! :rofl:
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With my current stash I have the potential of being able to kill 2600 zombies if I double tap.
That is, if my accuracy is 100% and none of the ammo misfires. Or my firearms don't jam. :crazy:
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I always wanted a .357 revolver for when we went fishing and camping on long hikes in WA. Matched with a lever action. Well, I got the pistol part. Now the lever.
Eff that. Rick was blown up, eaten up, or both. . . >:( Haha. He'll probably make a return with that group with the three rings. . . ;D
I wish Rick was killed off before Glenn and Hershel. . .
The finale where he was blown up showed him in a chopper with Jadis. So, ..... yeah.
Rick became a good barometer of how crazy or "normal" the story was headed. I often wonder how different things might have turned out without Rick in charge. That's a month-long "what if" rabbit hole at least!
I think Rick was constantly used as a protagonist inside the group to springboard to the next phase of storyline. You weren't supposed to like him, just follow why things unfolded because of him. There were lots of plot lines I don't think could have been nearly as big if Rick wasn't involved.
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The finale where he was blown up showed him in a chopper with Jadis. So, ..... yeah.
Rick became a good barometer of how crazy or "normal" the story was headed. I often wonder how different things might have turned out without Rick in charge. That's a month-long "what if" rabbit hole at least!
I think Rick was constantly used as a protagonist inside the group to springboard to the next phase of storyline. You weren't supposed to like him, just follow why things unfolded because of him. There were lots of plot lines I don't think could have been nearly as big if Rick wasn't involved.
Jadis was creepy. . . :shake:
Yeah, i saw that episode. I get Rick's part in the storyline. His character was such a bad actor and got annoying after the story went beyond the comic book. Not that I followed the comic book series. He had a very "strange" time for a while there, where he was a pacifist or something like that. He got super irritating with his whining about "Koral". . . ::) :rofl:
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for zombies, this 22 might work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDhC2B7fwTg
or this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee3jMgidOVk
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Jadis was creepy. . . :shake:
Yeah, i saw that episode. I get Rick's part in the storyline. His character was such a bad actor and got annoying after the story went beyond the comic book. Not that I followed the comic book series. He had a very "strange" time for a while there, where he was a pacifist or something like that. He got super irritating with his whining about "Koral". . . ::) :rofl:
Jadis was not just creepy, but she was also playing a role within the show while hiding her true role. After her clan was murdered by the Saviors, she suddenly stopped talking like a poorly translated Chinese fortune cookie! :rofl:
Jadis was pretty hot when she didn't have to have the Queen of the Garbage People haircut. :love:
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My daughter had the best answer I heard yet.
She said use the .357, 9mm/38 spcl and rifle rounds early in the apocalypse while the skulls are still fresh.
As the apocalypse wears on go to the .22 because the skulls will get softer.
Stick to long rifles though until vulnerability is confirmed.
Then double tap with pistolas. :thumbsup:
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for zombies, this 22 might work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDhC2B7fwTg
or this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee3jMgidOVk
I would be Soooooooo loving this but . . .
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=38738.0
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I would be Soooooooo loving this but . . .
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=38738.0
I remember when we could own binary triggers :(
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for zombies, this 22 might work
SNIP
Finally watched those videos. That's quite good for a f/a 22! Many even reliable s/a 22s choke on even decent ammo, including the venerable 10/22. He was shooting pretty good ammo though. That plate rack and the multiple hits on that further steel was pretty good. ;D
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhEAAIdLywA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6exXXsf5XII
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well, the zombies are apparently here, they even voted! and all the stores are out of ammo, dayum, we fooked!
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well, the zombies are apparently here, they even voted! and all the stores are out of ammo, dayum, we fooked!
Whatcha mean "we"? You got a mouse in your pocket?
:geekdanc: :thumbsup: :rofl:
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well, the zombies are apparently here, they even voted! and all the stores are out of ammo, dayum, we fooked!
Fact check, a dead/zombie person did not vote. Their ID was stolen and a live person voted under their name....
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https://youtu.be/pHKOYu1Sr-4
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https://youtu.be/pHKOYu1Sr-4
damn, that was a $1000 worth of .22
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If I’ve been given the green light to shoot dead people in the head, I want a BIG FUCKING SLUG cuz I want to see brains and blood fly when I hit them.
While a 22 might do the trick, it doesn’t have the power to splatter brains all over the place.
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Jadis was not just creepy, but she was also playing a role within the show while hiding her true role. After her clan was murdered by the Saviors, she suddenly stopped talking like a poorly translated Chinese fortune cookie! :rofl:
Jadis was pretty hot when she didn't have to have the Queen of the Garbage People haircut. :love:
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oh wow. I would both
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Hey ‘Hound, it looks like you’re going to get a chance to test your theory...
Denmark to dig up thousands of mink after carcasses emerge from graves
Denmark plans to dig up thousands of dead mink culled to prevent the spread of the coronavirus, after the animals started to rise out of their mass graves.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/11/30/europe/denmark-dead-mink-dug-up-scli-intl/index.html (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/11/30/europe/denmark-dead-mink-dug-up-scli-intl/index.html)
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Fawkin’-A ! Game On !
Will Denmark let us choot ‘em in the head to be sure ? :D
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Not a great "test" --
Human Z's vs. Zinks (Z minks). A .22 is probably overkill for a varmint-size Z.
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Never said it was a great test.....
Just a Fun Test.
Zombie Minks ?
By the thousands ?
Might have to get the Holy Handgrenade.
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If I’ve been given the green light to shoot dead people in the head, I want a BIG FUCKING SLUG cuz I want to see brains and blood fly when I hit them.
While a 22 might do the trick, it doesn’t have the power to splatter brains all over the place.
Then blood splatters on u and u turn.
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Then blood splatters on u and u turn.
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What makes you think I haven’t turned already? ;D
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What makes you think I haven’t turned already? ;D
Whoa zombies with firearms. Shoot person in leg so easier to catch.
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Whoa zombies with firearms.
Now you guys are just messing with my head.
Zombies with firearms..... :crazy:
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You guys do realize that the ultimate zombie movie is when the zombies retaliate. Eventually they will catch on and all you need is one to become an NRA certified instructor and they will train armies of them. We need to stay one step ahead of them and start hoarding high explosives. :rofl:
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You guys do realize that the ultimate zombie movie is when the zombies retaliate. Eventually they will catch on and all you need is one to become an NRA certified instructor and they will train armies of them. We need to stay one step ahead of them and start hoarding high explosives. :rofl:
No worries on Oahu, they would never get an appointment.
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No worries on Oahu, they would never get an appointment.
:rofl:
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You guys do realize that the ultimate zombie movie is when the zombies retaliate. Eventually they will catch on and all you need is one to become an NRA certified instructor and they will train armies of them. We need to stay one step ahead of them and start hoarding high explosives. :rofl:
That's some high expectations. . . ;D
No worries on Oahu, they would never get an appointment.
No $hit. . .
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No worries on Oahu, they would never get an appointment.
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They don't need appointments.
Zombies have many zombie friends in high level government jobs.
They'll probably all have CCW permits.
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They'll probably all have CCW permits.
You mean OC permits, cause zombie clothes usually has choke holes in them, so not concealed anymore.
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I think I have to procure more .22 ammo. While I believe a double tap to the head will do the trick, I like to triple tap.
I just feel a "pak-pak-pak" sounds better than a "pak-pak".
And then just to change things up there's always the "ka-booom" of the .44 mags. One ka-boom is a whole lot better than a bunch of pak-paks.
Of course for that I would have to wear a rain parka with a hoodie and a face shield.
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I think I have to procure more .22 ammo. While I believe a double tap to the head will do the trick, I like to triple tap.
I just feel a "pak-pak-pak" sounds better than a "pak-pak".
And then just to change things up there's always the "ka-booom" of the .44 mags. One ka-boom is a whole lot better than a bunch of pak-paks.
Of course for that I would have to wear a rain parka with a hoodie and a face shield.
If you watched TWD, you'll quickly learn that you're going to become a bloody, gooey mess no matter what.
Rick was cleaned up at least once every season, but that only lasted about 2 hours max!
At Alexandria, Carol was shown going through the process of picking out clothes and getting all nicely attired. Later that day, she was a bloody mess.
You won't survive the Zombie Apocalypse if you're a clean freak!
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You mean OC permits, cause zombie clothes usually has choke holes in them, so not concealed anymore.
Zombies open carrying on the streets.
Probably wouldn’t even holster them, just carry them around.
Looking for brains.
That’d be some messed up sh!+.
Crap Shoot I guess as to whether that particular zombie still has ammo.
We’re gonna need higher cap mags.
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If you watched TWD, you'll quickly learn that you're going to become a bloody, gooey mess no matter what.
Rick was cleaned up at least once every season, but that only lasted about 2 hours max!
At Alexandria, Carol was shown going through the process of picking out clothes and getting all nicely attired. Later that day, she was a bloody mess.
You won't survive the Zombie Apocalypse if you're a clean freak!
Yeah, you're right. All that running around in humidity will only steam up the parka and facemask anyway.....
Guess gotta face the reality that zombie crud will be the new normal. After a while the smell and crud won't be noticed. Too busy doing the pak-pak-pak and ka-booom!! :rofl: