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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: chucke25 on July 23, 2012, 08:20:03 PM
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I've been using CCI mini mag $38/500. Looking for something cheaper and where I can get it.
Thanks
Chuck
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CCI Blazer is pretty cheap. CCI Standard Velocity, to me, is good for matches. There's also Federal Auto Target (or something like that--got it from Young Guns) that's somehow optimized for semiautos. Winchester 555 has a jacketed bullet and it's cheap enough.
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Blazers has been working pretty good for me. Not as accurate as CCI Standard but good enough. KGS has them for $25 500rd bulk pack or $225 for 5,000rds.
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http://www.odcmp.com/Sales/ammo.htm (http://www.odcmp.com/Sales/ammo.htm)
The ammo deals are pretty good and they ship to Hawaii.
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Winchester 555 good to 220 Yards!
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Found some new ammo (for me) at Young Guns. It is called Federal Auto Match. It is match grade ammo designed for semi-autos that is bulk packed. I think it is 325 rounds for $18.95. It shoots VERY well from my target rifle. I will be using it at my next match.
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Found some new ammo (for me) at Young Guns. It is called Federal Auto Match. It is match grade ammo designed for semi-autos that is bulk packed. I think it is 325 rounds for $18.95. It shoots VERY well from my target rifle. I will be using it at my next match.
This. These are good ammo.
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Gotta grab me some. I assume it's just as good in 10/22
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Found some new ammo (for me) at Young Guns. It is called Federal Auto Match. It is match grade ammo designed for semi-autos that is bulk packed. I think it is 325 rounds for $18.95. It shoots VERY well from my target rifle. I will be using it at my next match.
Hmmm... 1200 fps. I don't think I've ever seen anyone label supersonic .22 ammo "match" before!
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Hmmm... 1200 fps. I don't think I've ever seen anyone label supersonic .22 ammo "match" before!
I have to agree with you Tom. But I also can't argue with the results out of the end of the barrel of my target .22. :wtf:
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My Ruger runs good with the 555-333 packs from sports authority. Pretty cheap and there made a little better now, and recently notice its copper coated now.
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I have to agree with you Tom. But I also can't argue with the results out of the end of the barrel of my target .22. :wtf:
I've always suspected that the whole "subsonic only" from match shooters was more elitism than fact-based. Unless the round transitioned from super to sub before it reached the target, I don't see how the shock wave could really matter.
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I've always suspected that the whole "subsonic only" from match shooters was more elitism than fact-based. Unless the round transitioned from super to sub before it reached the target, I don't see how the shock wave could really matter.
I was told many years ago (30+) that subsonic (or in those days Standard Velocity) was easier to manufacture consistently than the High Velocity ammo. And for match work consistency is everything. I imagine that what I was told was totally BS because when CCI Mini Mags came out I was amazed that any company could make such high quality HV ammo. So I am not surprised that in order to have match grade ammo work well in accurate semis they need to make it HV.
What really amazes me is that this Federal ammo works so well in my 42 year old Anschutz Rifle. And it is not SV!!!!!!!
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For serious smallbore match pistol, check out the bullseye shooters use on the pistol range.
Casual smallbore match shooting is done on the silhouette range and they use whatever fits their budget.
I'm assuming that you have a Ruger MKIII. That pistol should print better than 2" groups at 25 yards with anything quality ammo.
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Today used the American eagle federal hIgh velocity and it would. Fte and ftf about 5 of the 50. Im gonna try cci mini mag next week or the cci semi auto ammo. Anyone else have issues with this ammo?
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Today used the American eagle federal hIgh velocity and it would. Fte and ftf about 5 of the 50. Im gonna try cci mini mag next week or the cci semi auto ammo. Anyone else have issues with this ammo?
Never had an ammo-related failure using CCI Mini Mags. CCI is the brand I go to when I feel spendy.. :geekdanc:
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I absolutely love CCI mini mags.
They're my go to 22lr ammo too.
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Who has the best price on island for cci I need some for next week.
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Who has the best price on island for cci I need some for next week.
OGC case price is tops right now.
When Security Equipment has it on sale, they're lowest. (not on sale right now)
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Who has the best price on island for cci I need some for next week.
How much ammo do you need?
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OGC case price is tops right now.
When Security Equipment has it on sale, they're lowest. (not on sale right now)
5,000rd case or 500rd bulk pack?
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5,000rd case or 500rd bulk pack?
5000 round case
If memory serves me, it's $330 for a 5000 round case at OGC. ($6.60 per 100)
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Couple hundred rounds to try out. Before I do something stupid like buy the $99 1600 round from gander mountain
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I read on a couple of other websites that CCI Blazers are the same as the minimags without the copper coating. Not sure if true, but would be a good deal.
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I was talking to a super friendly guy on the silhouette side shooting his S&w 15-22 and asked him about cci. He informed that the cci is good cause of the copper jacket covering the bullet. On cheaper ammo like American eagle there is lead burs and over casting that builds up on the feed ramp that leads to jams. Copper jacket does not have this issue. If I recall the blazer bulk does not have the jacket, I could be wrong.
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I was talking to a super friendly guy on the silhouette side shooting his S&w 15-22 and asked him about cci. He informed that the cci is good cause of the copper jacket covering the bullet. On cheaper ammo like American eagle there is lead burs and over casting that builds up on the feed ramp that leads to jams. Copper jacket does not have this issue. If I recall the blazer bulk does not have the jacket, I could be wrong.
You're right--CCI Blazer bulk doesn't have a jacket. It's still a really good go-to round for cheap tho!
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You're right--CCI Blazer bulk doesn't have a jacket. It's still a really good go-to round for cheap tho!
I have to say that a well designed .22 rifle or pistol will shoot even the crappiest ammo quite a few hundred times (if not thousands of times) before it needs cleaning. The better lead based bullet ammo has a good lube on it and the lead buildup you mentioned will also be nonexistent. If you have that sort of lead buildup and have to use a copper washed/coated bullet (note .22 bullets are not copper jacketed or plated) then your rifle/pistol needs work. You should note that the most expensive and best made .22 ammo does not have a copper washed bullet. The copper only helps cover up problems that are exasperated by lead only bullets in a poorly designed/executed gun. And copper coated .22 ammo is just another way for the ammo companies to offer more value/features to their ammo. Technically (and generally) speaking as far as accuracy and velocity are concerned the copper washed bullets have little or no advantage over a well lubed lead bullet (in .22 caliber). Obviously, this does not apply to larger more powerful calibers.
The nice thing about time and technology is that the .22 ammo has gotten better and better. Even the cheaper ammo like the CCI Blazer can be used and is used in informal matches. The CCI Blazer is much higher quality and better shooting ammo than the standard velocity Remington Green Box I used to shoot 30 years ago.
The best .22 ammo for you is the ammo that shoots the best out of your gun. The best low cost ammo is the cheapest ammo you can find that you have to compromise accuracy the least.
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Correct...I've seen stupid high end ammo with no copper jacket. But they come coated with some substance that keeps the bullet from having little leave behinds in the feed ramp. I recall seeing $10+ for 50 shots.
I am gonna try the target federal bullets I got from another member this week as well as the cci mini mags. One of my friends is gonna be there tomorrow with blazer rounds hopefully I can get a box to sample too. I love to get accuracy and consistency for about $30 a brick rather than closer to $40 that I'm doing now