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Tools and Uses => Reloading => Topic started by: randye808 on November 18, 2020, 02:31:39 PM

Title: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: randye808 on November 18, 2020, 02:31:39 PM
Do anyone have used 30-06 brass for sale?  Looking to reload for a M1 Garand.
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: Lihikai on November 18, 2020, 03:55:30 PM
How much brass are you looking for?
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: randye808 on November 19, 2020, 08:44:32 AM
I hoping to get at least 50 - 100 brass.
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: Lihikai on November 19, 2020, 04:30:07 PM
I have 50 Lake City once-fired.  $10 
You'll need to swage the primer pockets.  If you don't have a swager I can do it for you.
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: macsak on November 19, 2020, 04:42:26 PM
I have 50 Lake City once-fired.  $10 
You'll need to swage the primer pockets.  If you don't have a swager I can do it for you.

good man
i looked today and i had only a handful of pieces...
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: randye808 on November 19, 2020, 04:45:43 PM
Lihikai,

Is it Boxer or Beardan prime?  When is a good time I can pick it up?
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: Lihikai on November 19, 2020, 05:05:10 PM
They are boxer primed.  Can meet any time today in Aiea.  Send me a PM if you want to meet.
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: jc2721 on November 19, 2020, 08:21:21 PM
Maybe you know this already but there are only a few powders you should use for the M-1.  Some slow burning powders can damage your op rod and those aren't cheap to replace.
Good luck!  I love shooting my Garands.
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: randye808 on November 20, 2020, 01:33:42 PM
Maybe you know this already but there are only a few powders you should use for the M-1.  Some slow burning powders can damage your op rod and those aren't cheap to replace.
Good luck!  I love shooting my Garands.

Yep.  My M1 Garand is coming from CMP and should be here soon.  Thank you for the information.  Now I know that I have another M1 shooter, I will keep your profile for future inquires.  Again, thank you.
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: randye808 on November 20, 2020, 01:54:41 PM
Yep.  My M1 Garand is coming from CMP and should be here soon.  Thank you for the information.  Now I know that I have another M1 shooter, I will keep your profile for future inquires.  Again, thank you.

Any recommendation of powder I should use?
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: jc2721 on November 20, 2020, 04:24:45 PM
I haven't loaded 06 in more than a decade so I would recommend you google-fu a few loads specifically designed for the Garand. 

I've sold a few rifles at the gun show and I've always told buyers NOT to shoot commercial rounds UNLESS it was specifically made for Garands (the Federal stuff is good but expensive--then again, so is blowing up a rifle!).

Good luck! :shaka:
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: randye808 on November 20, 2020, 04:40:50 PM
I haven't loaded 06 in more than a decade so I would recommend you google-fu a few loads specifically designed for the Garand. 

I've sold a few rifles at the gun show and I've always told buyers NOT to shoot commercial rounds UNLESS it was specifically made for Garands (the Federal stuff is good but expensive--then again, so is blowing up a rifle!).

Good luck! :shaka:
Understood.  Yes, I was looking for m2 ball ammo.  No one seems to have any so I am going to try and reload my own.
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: jc2721 on November 20, 2020, 04:46:12 PM
Danger close has some federal m2 on its website, Dwayne's a good guy to deal with.

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Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: jc2721 on November 20, 2020, 04:49:17 PM
Sorry, cancel that.  He had some a while ago but the fmj stuff he's got now is incompatible with the Garland, sorry about that.

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Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: rklapp on November 21, 2020, 09:37:43 AM
If you can, buy a jug. You'll need a lot of it.

(https://www.handloadermagazine.com/Media/Articles/2018%20Issues/5%20Oct-Nov/JB-TABLE.jpg)

https://www.handloadermagazine.com/m1-garand-handloads
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: randye808 on November 21, 2020, 09:55:52 AM
If you can, buy a jug. You'll need a lot of it.

(https://www.handloadermagazine.com/Media/Articles/2018%20Issues/5%20Oct-Nov/JB-TABLE.jpg)

https://www.handloadermagazine.com/m1-garand-handloads

Thank you for the information.  Much needed.
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: randye808 on November 21, 2020, 09:58:13 AM
Sorry, cancel that.  He had some a while ago but the fmj stuff he's got now is incompatible with the Garland, sorry about that.

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Not a problem.  I am on the hunt for powder, projectiles and large rifle primers.  I am well aware of the shortage, so that is why I am try to collect what I can for now.  I am estimating that the shortage should end by 2021 3rd quarter.  Hopefully.  Thanks you for looking into it.
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: justin1098 on November 23, 2020, 07:27:54 AM
I got a 1953 Garand a couple of years ago. I have been handloading all my ammo in mostly LC brass. I have had best accuracy from sierra 168 matchkings over IMR 4064. I think Varget develops higher pressure than 4895 and 4064, so be careful. FYI 4064 and 4895 are copies the powders used in 30 cal m1 ball ammo.
If you don't mind fiddling a little, you can buy an adjustable gas plug http://www.schustermfg.com/m1-garand-adjustable-gas-plug/ to tweak down the gas on modern 30-06 or hotter handloads.

The best part is that you are exempt from the 5 round rule at koko head.
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: drck1000 on November 23, 2020, 07:56:06 AM
Ahh, great info!  I have both a 1903A1 and Garand, but have only shot the 1903 so far because all I was able to find is new production factory ammo.  Now that I am getting into reloading/handloading, I can look to load for the Garand.  I have the powders mentioned below already on hand for .308.  Will refer to load data in manuals, but good to see what others have been trying and their hits or misses.  Will be good to shoot the Garand again. 
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: randye808 on November 25, 2020, 07:11:59 AM
Ahh, great info!  I have both a 1903A1 and Garand, but have only shot the 1903 so far because all I was able to find is new production factory ammo.  Now that I am getting into reloading/handloading, I can look to load for the Garand.  I have the powders mentioned below already on hand for .308.  Will refer to load data in manuals, but good to see what others have been trying and their hits or misses.  Will be good to shoot the Garand again.

Yes!  My M1 Garand will be here, soon, and really am looking forward to shooting it.  I purchased some casings from Lihikai for reloading (great guy with a lot of knowledge) and will be purchasing some M2 Ball ammo from Oldmose.  I was informed that not to shoot the M1 with commercial grade ammo, so I decided to get back into reloading.
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: zippz on November 25, 2020, 11:38:50 AM
CMP has 30-06 in stock.  I dunno what they charge for shipping nowadays but it should be somewhat reasonable.

https://estore.thecmp.org/Catalog/Item/4C3006CS150-200

(https://estore.thecmp.org/CustomContent/ProductImageCache/Small/4C3006CS150-200.jpg)
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: jc2721 on November 25, 2020, 12:13:59 PM
The CMP is the best place to get your M 1 rifle.  If you are not buying it from the CMP, John Pereirra is the man to see regarding headspacing, timing, etc.  Just be aware that he's heavily backlogged and it might take a while before he can go over your rifle.

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Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: justin1098 on November 26, 2020, 01:42:44 PM
All this talk has inspired me to load up some 30-06. Maybe I'll get out to the range this weekend and empty some clips. Ping!
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: jc2721 on November 26, 2020, 02:24:28 PM
BOOM BOOM!  Not:  pew pew   

Go big or go home! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: ren on November 26, 2020, 02:37:11 PM
CMP has 30-06 in stock.  I dunno what they charge for shipping nowadays but it should be somewhat reasonable.

https://estore.thecmp.org/Catalog/Item/4C3006CS150-200

(https://estore.thecmp.org/CustomContent/ProductImageCache/Small/4C3006CS150-200.jpg)

they charge by weight FedEx so be prepared for the added expense. I paid $110 in shipping for each case.
Title: Re: 30-06 brass for a M1 Garand
Post by: justin1098 on November 27, 2020, 04:43:19 PM
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