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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: 230RN on July 24, 2012, 02:27:12 PM

Title: Maryland's "good and substantial reason" requirement shot down.
Post by: 230RN on July 24, 2012, 02:27:12 PM

Maryland will have to begin issuing concealed carry permits without requiring a good and substantial reason by the applicants.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bal-access-widens-to-maryland-gun-carry-permits-20120724,0,7660075.story (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bal-access-widens-to-maryland-gun-carry-permits-20120724,0,7660075.story)

Last March, U.S. District Court Judge Benson E. Legg had struck down as unconstitutional the provisions requiring a "good and substantial" reason for issuing permits.  However, he had granted a stay of execution of his order so that an appeal could be filed.  He rescinded that stay order yesterday, 23 July:

http://www.marylandshallissue.org/share/order.stay.pdf (http://www.marylandshallissue.org/share/order.stay.pdf)

Title: Re: Maryland's "good and substantial reason" requirement shot down.
Post by: Heavies on July 24, 2012, 05:14:29 PM

Great victory for sure!

Title: Re: Maryland's "good and substantial reason" requirement shot down.
Post by: Izanagi on July 24, 2012, 05:19:51 PM

when will it be hawaii..

Title: Re: Maryland's "good and substantial reason" requirement shot down.
Post by: evosil98 on July 24, 2012, 05:27:03 PM

Now its Hawaii's turn.

Has anyone sued the state?

Title: Maryland's "good and substantial reason" requirement shot down.
Post by: hnl.flyboy on July 24, 2012, 07:39:31 PM

Quote from: evosil98 on July 24, 2012, 05:27:03 PM

Now its Hawaii's turn.

Has anyone sued the state?

Yessir. Message Funtimes and support him & Hawaii Defense Foundation!

Title: Re: Maryland's "good and substantial reason" requirement shot down.
Post by: mauiblue on July 24, 2012, 08:27:37 PM

I can only hope that Hawaii would allow CCW laws to all state citizens. But I'm a realist and that won't ever happen unless we have more pro gun law makers in our legislature.

Title: Re: Maryland's "good and substantial reason" requirement shot down.
Post by: codeblue808 on July 24, 2012, 09:28:24 PM

One of you educated folk with gun knowledge run for office already.  lol.

Title: Re: Maryland's "good and substantial reason" requirement shot down.
Post by: 230RN on July 25, 2012, 02:28:50 AM

Quote from: codeblue808 on July 24, 2012, 09:28:24 PM

One of you educated folk with gun knowledge run for office already.  lol.

Boy, if you do, you'd better not have any bones, let alone skeletons, in your closets.  Otherwise an unsympathetic media will be all over you like a wet dream.

I'm told that the standard answer in states requiring a "reason" on firearms applications is "For all legal purposes."  Seems to work for them.  Not that a "reason" should be required in the first place. 

Or an "application," for that matter.

Terry, 230RN

Title: Re: Maryland's "good and substantial reason" requirement shot down.
Post by: Cougar8045 on July 25, 2012, 10:27:07 AM

Quote from: mauiblue on July 24, 2012, 08:27:37 PM

I can only hope that Hawaii would allow CCW laws to all state citizens. But I'm a realist and that won't ever happen unless we have more pro gun law makers in our legislature.

All we need is one teeny tiny little SCOTUS decision finding that the 2nd Amendment doesn't stop at your front door, and presto change-o, we've got shall-issue permits in Hawaii.  See also, Roe v. Wade.