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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: ren on December 03, 2020, 08:06:07 AM
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/12/03/city-council-examines-proposed-story-tower-ala-moana-center/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/12/03/city-council-examines-proposed-story-tower-ala-moana-center/)
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Unfortunately, I had to spend two days in Honolulu last August.
We stayed at the Ala moana hotel.
I fail to see how you could fuck up your town even more than it is already.
I grew up in SE Los Angeles county, worked for over 20 years in Seattle,
and am very familiar with large metropolitan cities.
Honolulu sucks!
Build the monstrosity, can't be any worse than what you already have.
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There is no such thing as cost-free improvements (especially for housing).
Do you care about the environment and agriculture so you constrain the available land? Or do you care about “affordability” so you make it cheap by stealing from the working person and now tons of new people want to live there (thereby defeating the purpose)? There is no housing “problem” to be solved, there’s only how much people care about each of these factors and the trade offs they make
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"Neighbors of existing towers worry it would reduce property values, impair views and worsen traffic"
Basically only thinking of themselves. I would say more than 20% should be affordable. Reminds me of a friend in Kailua who had haoles build a 2 story home in front of her beach front facing window. Now she sees only their home. The area in front her window was vacant for 20 years. Then these people complained when someone else built a home in front of theirs blocking their view.
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"Neighbors of existing towers worry it would reduce property values, impair views and worsen traffic"
Basically only thinking of themselves. I would say more than 20% should be affordable. Reminds me of a friend in Kailua who had haoles build a 2 story home in front of her beach front facing window. Now she sees only their home. The area in front her window was vacant for 20 years. Then these people complained when someone else built a home in front of theirs blocking their view.
Monster Homes have been n the news the last few years. People get vague plans approved and bribe inspectors, or just do the bribing so they can exceed the plans' parameters.
Unless the people who lost their view hire a lawyer and sue, there'e little they can do short of holding a "mostly peaceful protest" so that the offending house is cleansed by fire. :geekdanc: :popcorn:
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Oahu is a shit hole.....getting worse..... :wtf:
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Oahu should get rid of the 40 story height limit. Change it to 80. Gotta make use of the limited land space.
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Oahu should get rid of the 40 story height limit. Change it to 80. Gotta make use of the limited land space.
Why stop at 80, the sky is the limit.
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Sounds like the council member is trying to get more out of the deal for himself with some of the comments he's making.
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583 units and only 20% for affordable housing? That's 116 units. Wow, woop dee doo...... :rofl:
Tommy Waters, you're so full of shit.
If this keeps up affordable housing is under the freeways, and on the streets. Only caveat is you have to pack up and move to another location a couple of hundred feet every once in a while. But other than that "they" leave you alone, lol!
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There was also a bill that basically makes monster homes legal. Gonna start looking like Judge Dredd up in here pretty soon if some people have their way.
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"Neighbors of existing towers worry it would reduce property values, impair views and worsen traffic"
Basically only thinking of themselves. I would say more than 20% should be affordable. Reminds me of a friend in Kailua who had haoles build a 2 story home in front of her beach front facing window. Now she sees only their home. The area in front her window was vacant for 20 years. Then these people complained when someone else built a home in front of theirs blocking their view.
This had happened to some neighbors, I offered to torch the house
under construction as it was not yet completed and other than the pocketbook
of the builders, no one would be hurt. I guarantee no one would have called 911
on that fire.
The neighbor forbade me to take any action, they were worried that
they'd be blamed.
The house was built.
Bottom line, if you have an ocean view
spend the money to protect it.
My view is protected by racism, Bishop museum
lands zoned ag40 from mine to the ocean.
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There was also a bill that basically makes monster homes legal. Gonna start looking like Judge Dredd up in here pretty soon if some people have their way.
I once saw a film of a guy whose house was part of a divorce settlement, each spouse being given half interest by the judge.
The soon-to-be-ex-husband was just a tad pissed at his cheating wife and the amount of the settlement she was to receive, so he took the court order to heart.
With his industrial size logging chainsaw, he cut the house in half front to back!
I can see something similar here, only the cut line would be horizontal -- just below where the view from behind is being blocked! New tourist attraction: topless houses. :geekdanc: :thumbsup: :rofl: