Post by: punaperson on December 11, 2020, 09:12:19 AM
Joe Biden Already Planning Executive Orders On Gun Control
thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/report-joe-biden-already-planning-executive-orders-gun-control/
Joe Biden has not even been certified as the winner of the 2020 election yet, but is already reportedly crafting new measures for gun control.
And it should come as no surprise that he is not even planning legislation to send to America’s representatives but rather is planning to take steps through executive action.
As usual, Democrats just can’t wait to take rights away from law abiding citizens.
The Washington Examiner reports:
Gun control first for Biden executive orders
Joe Biden plans to move quickly against guns, adding the issue to his list of first executive orders, according to his top policy aide.
Stef Feldman, the national policy director of Biden’s presidential campaign, included the Democrat’s gun plan in a list of initial executive actions set to be unleashed after Inauguration Day.
Speaking in a Zoom briefing hosted by Georgetown University’s Institute of Politics and Public Service, she said that Biden is planning to “make big, bold changes through executive action, not just on policing and climate like we talked about previously, but in healthcare and education on gun violence, on a range of issues.”
She added that “there’s really a lot you can do through guidance and executive action.”
It is expected that Biden will use executive orders, especially if the Democrats don’t win both Georgia special Senate elections.
Funny. This never really came up during the debates, did it? Do you think that was a coincidence?
(https://i.imgur.com/mGjRvYg.png)
Biden is even being pressured by the left to create a cabinet position dedicated to gun control.
(https://i.imgur.com/6ivG6Yx.png)
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 11, 2020, 09:20:12 AM
Post by: omnigun on December 11, 2020, 09:29:45 AM
Post by: QUIETShooter on December 11, 2020, 09:39:52 AM
What about other states where there is no database as to who has firearms? How are they going to figure out who has firearms?
Is he going to executive order a mandate that all citizens turn in their weapons regardless if registered or not? And these citizens will suffer severe penalties (imprisonment, death sentence, concentration camps.... ::)) if they do not comply?
I think all citizens should demand that joe bidet and his communist gov't guarantee that the citizens will be 100% protected since they will not be able to protect themselves. If any citizen suffers death or serious injury they have the right to sue the government for a minimum of 1 billion dollars.
Because the only ones with guns will be the gov't and the criminals. Actually the way I see it if it comes down to this they are one and the same.
Post by: ren on December 11, 2020, 09:46:33 AM
Post by: macsak on December 11, 2020, 10:14:14 AM
According to 1 person, it's ok because we have the senate. Or we can wait until the next POTUS.
that's what he feels won't happen
but will say it repeatedly like it's a fact
Post by: omnigun on December 11, 2020, 10:31:40 AM
that's what he feels won't happen
but will say it repeatedly like it's a fact
Its a fact that without laws passed (congress), Biden is limited to what he can do for "gun control". This is assuming republicans keep the senate and didn't fuck that up.
Post by: Brystont1 on December 11, 2020, 10:42:23 AM
Its a fact that without laws passed (congress), Biden is limited to what he can do for "gun control". This is assuming republicans keep the senate and didn't fuck that up.
How did bumpstocks get banned? ???
Post by: omnigun on December 11, 2020, 10:50:35 AM
How did bumpstocks get banned? ???
Trump did that with an executive order. I never said nothing could get banned, limited means only some things. It can also be reversed by the next president.
https://www.thetrace.org/2019/10/presidential-candidates-executive-action-on-guns/
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 11, 2020, 11:25:13 AM
Trump did that with an executive order. I never said nothing could get banned, limited means only some things. It can also be reversed by the next president.
https://www.thetrace.org/2019/10/presidential-candidates-executive-action-on-guns/
So, the good news is, you have to get rid of a banned item/firearm (turn in (i.e. mandatory buy-back), destroy, give/sell to someone out of state, go fishing in an old boat...), and do without until another president enters office in 4-8 years, then HOPE that president is not pro gun control AND HOPE that that new president repeals the executive order?
And if that "next president" lets the executive order stand, maybe the next one in 8 years will take action. Or the next one. Or the next one ......
Your "plan" is bullshit. You seem to believe there is always going to be a Republican president elected right after a Democrat leaves office. That could not be further from a guarantee.
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 11, 2020, 11:26:24 AM
Can he even ban mags or ar15's without a law? I know he can ban imports.
Don't you know the answer to this question? You posted many times about what Biden can/cannot do and about the senate control and stuff like that.
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 11, 2020, 11:27:35 AM
Its a fact that without laws passed (congress), Biden is limited to what he can do for "gun control". This is assuming republicans keep the senate and didn't fuck that up.
Any "gun control" is not good. So even if BIden is limited, nothing good can come of it.
Post by: drck1000 on December 11, 2020, 11:42:57 AM
Any "gun control" is not good. So even if BIden is limited, nothing good can come of it.Are you doubting The Office of the President Elect?
Post by: QUIETShooter on December 11, 2020, 12:15:11 PM
If not, then the president reject in 2024.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 11, 2020, 12:17:00 PM
I hope the president-elect soon becomes the president reject.
If not, then the president reject in 2024.
I'm looking forward to him becoming
#PresidentDefendant
then
#PresidentInmate
Post by: omnigun on December 11, 2020, 01:39:37 PM
So, the good news is, you have to get rid of a banned item/firearm (turn in (i.e. mandatory buy-back), destroy, give/sell to someone out of state, go fishing in an old boat...), and do without until another president enters office in 4-8 years, then HOPE that president is not pro gun control AND HOPE that that new president repeals the executive order?
And if that "next president" lets the executive order stand, maybe the next one in 8 years will take action. Or the next one. Or the next one ......
Your "plan" is bullshit. You seem to believe there is always going to be a Republican president elected right after a Democrat leaves office. That could not be further from a guarantee.
He can't do any of that. He can tell agencies to interpret the law a little differently. Aka bumpstock is a machine-gun. Increase background checks etc. Ban gun imports from other countries. But he can't just take everyone's guns without a law passed. I have a feeling with democrats fucking stuff up with spending and debt the next president will be a republican. I could be wrong. But that still doesn't mean they can make laws without full control.
Post by: ren on December 11, 2020, 01:43:01 PM
He can't do any of that. He can tell agencies to interpret the law a little differently. Aka bumpstock is a machine-gun. Increase background checks etc. Ban gun imports from other countries. But he can't just take everyone's guns without a law passed. I have a feeling with democrats fucking stuff up with spending and debt the next president will be a republican. I could be wrong. But that still doesn't mean they can make laws without full control.
bumpstock is NOT a machinegun
Post by: omnigun on December 11, 2020, 02:19:34 PM
bumpstock is NOT a machinegun
Tell trump that.
Post by: 6716J on December 11, 2020, 04:58:59 PM
They just raided Polymer80. BOLO for DIY guns to be gone also
Post by: punaperson on December 11, 2020, 07:11:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VDg5o0Qmq0
Post by: punaperson on December 15, 2020, 09:22:54 AM
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/15/kamala-harris-pushes-gun-control-to-keep-our-children-safe/
Kamala Harris remembered the December 14, 2012, Sandy Hook Elementary attack by pushing gun control “to keep our children safe.”
On Monday she tweeted [see below]:
The “common-sense gun safety” being pushed for the Biden administration includes a ban on the sale of firearms which Democrats label “assault weapons,” as well as a ban on “high capacity” magazines, and the implementation of universal background checks.
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Post by: omnigun on December 15, 2020, 09:54:23 AM
Kamala Harris Pushes Gun Control ‘To Keep Our Children Safe’
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/15/kamala-harris-pushes-gun-control-to-keep-our-children-safe/
Kamala Harris remembered the December 14, 2012, Sandy Hook Elementary attack by pushing gun control “to keep our children safe.”
On Monday she tweeted [see below]:
The “common-sense gun safety” being pushed for the Biden administration includes a ban on the sale of firearms which Democrats label “assault weapons,” as well as a ban on “high capacity” magazines, and the implementation of universal background checks.
I hope one day she will realize guns are not like a virus. It doesn't spread indiscriminately. Just like a virus which is an actual public health issue, guns are not the problem. You can't ban a virus and make the problem go away. You must focus on the real threat. People. With viruses, you have people wear masks and social distance etc. That's because the root cause is always people. Mental health programs to get the crazies off the streets and cured. No amount of "gun control" will work. The tool is not the issue.
Post by: RSN172 on December 15, 2020, 09:55:40 AM
Post by: macsak on December 15, 2020, 10:03:44 AM
It will be interesting to see what happens when they go after the guns owned by the hundreds of paramilitary groups, some who number over 10,000. Like the ones who showed up to stand with Clive Bundy, they were willing to die to stop the Feds, who wisely backed off to prevent bloodshed. If they were willing to fight to the death over some grazing land, imagine when they feel their constitutional rights and freedom are being taken away.
i have a feeling at least one person here will willingly hand over his/her firearms...
Post by: groveler on December 15, 2020, 10:05:00 AM
It will be interesting to see what happens when they go after the guns owned by the hundreds of paramilitary groups, some who number over 10,000. Like the ones who showed up to stand with Clive Bundy, they were willing to die to stop the Feds, who wisely backed off to prevent bloodshed. If they were willing to fight to the death over some grazing land, imagine when they feel their constitutional rights and freedom are being taken away.Those guys with Bundy were idiots.
They should have DOXed the offending officers
and burned their houses. You never go toe to toe with
Cops or the military, you will lose.
You attack his 6 and then disappear.
Post by: drck1000 on December 15, 2020, 10:05:28 AM
It will be interesting to see what happens when they go after the guns owned by the hundreds of paramilitary groups, some who number over 10,000. Like the ones who showed up to stand with Clive Bundy, they were willing to die to stop the Feds, who wisely backed off to prevent bloodshed. If they were willing to fight to the death over some grazing land, imagine when they feel their constitutional rights and freedom are being taken away.I think more realistic that there will be "something" to spark a conflict between groups, thus giving a reason to step in. Damn, need to stock up on tinfoil. . .
Good point you made nonetheless. . .
Post by: drck1000 on December 15, 2020, 10:05:51 AM
I hope one day she will realize guns are not like a virus. It doesn't spread indiscriminately. Just like a virus which is an actual public health issue, guns are not the problem. You can't ban a virus and make the problem go away. You must focus on the real threat. People. Mental health programs to get the crazies off the streets and cured. No amount of "gun control" will work. The tool is not the issue.I still have some hope for you yet. . . although misguided you may be, sometimes (not often) you show potential to getting to an understanding of pro-2a arguments. . .
Post by: macsak on December 15, 2020, 10:18:11 AM
I still have some hope for you yet. . .
i don't...
Post by: drck1000 on December 15, 2020, 10:24:29 AM
i don't...Oh come on grinch. The "children ARE our future". . .
Not sure Whitney was really a shining example for how to adult. . .
Post by: QUIETShooter on December 15, 2020, 10:56:21 AM
Take that away and they have control. The fact that 2a enables citizens to rise up against the government is why that b*tch and her old fut puppet want to take away guns. They will start with AR's but eventually work down to levers, bolt-actions, and revolvers. That old saying is never more true than now. Give an inch and they will take a mile.
The 2nd amendment is what makes America different than any other country in the world and epitomizes the true meaning of a free society.
Post by: macsak on December 15, 2020, 11:55:05 AM
Oh come on grinch. The "children ARE our future". . .
Not sure Whitney was really a shining example for how to adult. . .
the child said biden would't do any of this...
Post by: robtmc on December 15, 2020, 11:58:26 AM
i don't...The old saying about the difference between ignorance and stupidity comes to mind.
Post by: drck1000 on December 15, 2020, 12:00:34 PM
The old saying about the difference between ignorance and stupidity comes to mind.One is playing stupid, the other is plain stupid. . .
Post by: rpoL98 on December 15, 2020, 12:30:38 PM
puchase records >>>> confiscation.
Post by: punaperson on December 15, 2020, 12:37:21 PM
puchase records >>>> confiscation.[Sounds of cheering from the Hawaii legislative, bureaucratic, executive, and judicial fascists...]
Post by: drck1000 on December 15, 2020, 12:39:28 PM
it's been in the news, Biden meeting with ATF. ... and suddenly we have the P80 "Build Buy Shoot" raids. And the d-bag is not even installed in-office yet. Somebody at ATF trying to make an impression on the new boss? angling for a promotion/appointment? Foreshadowing of what's to come. Tip of the iceberg.That's also what I suspect will happen in Hawaii. Someone trying to show how progressive and "safe" Hawaii is. Will be under the guise of an effort to re-energize the tourism industry.
puchase records >>>> confiscation.
Post by: punaperson on December 15, 2020, 12:40:34 PM
What Will Happen to Gun Rights Under the Biden Presidency?
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/12/what_will_happen_to_gun_rights_under_the_biden_presidency.html
Any time a liberal candidate is elected to become President of the United States, gun rights and regulations take center stage. Historically, gun sales have surged in the two months between a Democratic presidential nomination and inauguration. And that’s precisely what we’re seeing right now.
Post by: MassConfusion on December 15, 2020, 12:58:12 PM
Is there going to be a grandfather clause or recompensation for seized property? With that said I'm wondering if the various companies would destroy their sales records to keep their clients identities safe, if they can 'legally' do that I'm not sure.
I'm sure whoever bought these sort of things got rid of them already too, before milling that is. Can never be too safe.
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 15, 2020, 01:11:43 PM
Compared to all the "come and take it" shit talkers (ages 20-40s) who have way more to lose. They all talk the big talk, but when it comes down to it, they will hand over their guns.
Post by: RSN172 on December 15, 2020, 01:13:15 PM
Those guys with Bundy were idiots.That would be difficult to do unless you knew the names of the ones on the other side.
They should have DOXed the offending officers
and burned their houses. You never go toe to toe with
Cops or the military, you will lose.
You attack his 6 and then disappear.
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 15, 2020, 01:14:23 PM
Any "gun control" is not good. So even if BIden is limited, nothing good can come of it.The only good gun control is hitting your target!
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Post by: aletheuo137 on December 15, 2020, 01:15:37 PM
I'm looking forward to him becomingYou left out "office of"...
#PresidentDefendant
then
#PresidentInmate
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Post by: aletheuo137 on December 15, 2020, 01:18:13 PM
i have a feeling at least one person here will willingly hand over his/her firearms...You left out the other four genders...
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Post by: drck1000 on December 15, 2020, 01:34:01 PM
The only good gun control is hitting your target!So your gun control not guud then. :P
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Post by: aletheuo137 on December 15, 2020, 01:35:34 PM
So your gun control not guud then.Yah ol' fuud
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Post by: eyeeatingfish on December 15, 2020, 09:03:41 PM
How did bumpstocks get banned? ???
Bumpstocks got banned because they changed the way the interpret the language in the law. There are limits to what can be changed just by reinterpreting language.
Post by: hvybarrels on December 15, 2020, 09:10:02 PM
Bumpstocks got banned because they changed the way the interpret the language in the law. There are limits to what can be changed just by reinterpreting language.
I agree. NFA is a badly written law that serves no purpose other than to make sure only rich people can afford firearms and it needs to be repealed.
Post by: RSN172 on December 16, 2020, 06:07:42 AM
I agree. NFA is a badly written law that serves no purpose other than to make sure only rich people can afford firearms and it needs to be repealed.It is always better to be rich than poor. Now I am wondering if it is better to be upper level of poor than to be lowest level of middle class.