Post by: luckydog1 on December 11, 2020, 04:31:46 PM
Post by: mrgaf on December 12, 2020, 09:13:36 AM
Well, here we are folks. So far J Biden turning moderate going by his appointments. Don't think he'll huli 2A but will try to restrict capacity and ammo availability. Curiously not one SC judge sided with Trump/Texas. We knew the cheat was coming--no prep by the Pubs therefore easy steal. >:(
They can all go kiss my ass! It’s getting to the point that fighting with words and ballots no longer works. The last and final option might just be the only way. :grrr:
Post by: luckydog1 on December 12, 2020, 11:08:18 AM
Post by: QUIETShooter on December 12, 2020, 11:29:11 AM
Post by: hvybarrels on December 12, 2020, 11:52:14 AM
Post by: omnigun on December 12, 2020, 12:12:01 PM
It is really astonishing that so many Republicans turned against MAGA and expect to get away with it. Even if Trump were to disappear there still is a massive highly motivated movement, and large movements are always peppered with crazies who are willing to take things too far.
This is the greatest threat. The destruction of the GOP. The rift between the MAGA people and the GOP. I am proud of all the Republicans that are trying to take back their party from Trump and I wish them the best. Unless the democrats split between the democrats and the socialists, it might be a "3 party" system. I know many including myself who would probably never vote for MAGA "party". Same reason I know many democrats that would never vote for a socialist. And I vote for Republican 80% of the time. The democrats appear to have defeated the socialists with the centrists defeated the leftists. Hope the same happens for the GOP, and the centrists win.
Post by: macsak on December 12, 2020, 12:29:56 PM
This is the greatest threat. The destruction of the GOP. The rift between the MAGA people and the GOP. I am proud of all the Republicans that are trying to take back their party from Trump and I wish them the best. Unless the democrats split between the democrats and the socialists, it might be a "3 party" system. I know many including myself who would probably never vote for MAGA "party". Same reason I know many democrats that would never vote for a socialist. And I vote for Republican 80% of the time. The democrats appear to have defeated the socialists with the centrists defeated the leftists. Hope the same happens for the GOP, and the centrists win.
do you realize who is one of the most left senators right now?
Post by: Mdotweber on December 12, 2020, 12:47:34 PM
I'm just glad that there are enough career
I'm so happy it's over now, yay we won! NWO bureaucrats saved the country guys :geekdanc:
Post by: hvybarrels on December 12, 2020, 12:54:04 PM
This is the greatest threat. The destruction of the GOP. The rift between the MAGA people and the GOP. I am proud of all the Republicans that are trying to take back their party from Trump and I wish them the best. Unless the democrats split between the democrats and the socialists, it might be a "3 party" system. I know many including myself who would probably never vote for MAGA "party". Same reason I know many democrats that would never vote for a socialist. And I vote for Republican 80% of the time. The democrats appear to have defeated the socialists with the centrists defeated the leftists. Hope the same happens for the GOP, and the centrists win.
Your posts are so wrong in so many different ways that it is difficult to decide where to start. MAGA makes up the majority of the Republican party now and have soundly rejected Bush era corporatism. The old Corporate Democrats are dying off and being replaced by Socialists.
Post by: Mdotweber on December 12, 2020, 01:03:17 PM
do you realize who is one of the most left senators right now?
Ohh shut up mac....that's all vast right wing conspiracy don't you disrespect our new
She will correct the course of our country while sticking it to all of you white supremacist Drumpfers.
Post by: omnigun on December 12, 2020, 01:08:31 PM
do you realize who is one of the most left senators right now?
Bernie aint president. Perhaps you are correct and they might still fall apart.
Post by: omnigun on December 12, 2020, 01:14:14 PM
Your posts are so wrong in so many different ways that it is difficult to decide where to start. MAGA makes up the majority of the Republican party now and have soundly rejected Bush era corporatism. The old Corporate Democrats are dying off and being replaced by Socialists.
Perhaps you are correct. That's a scary future. Might have to forever vote 3rd party. I wont vote for a socialist nor a far right candidate. If those are the only two options, than neither gets my vote. What makes you say MAGA makes up a majority? There's quite a few republicans not on trumps side and many voters voted for republicans but not trump. Also it appears democrats have gone more centrist. Biden is president, not Bernie, though he has krazy kamala as his VP. I took this as a sign the democrats went more centrist along with other candidates signaling the same.
Post by: hvybarrels on December 12, 2020, 01:22:49 PM
Perhaps you are correct. That's a scary future. Might have to forever vote 3rd party. I wont vote for a socialist nor a far right candidate. If those are the only two options, than neither gets my vote. What makes you say MAGA makes up a majority? There's quite a few republicans not on trumps side and many voters voted for republicans but not trump. Also it appears democrats have gone more centrist. Biden is president, not Bernie, though he has krazy kamala as his VP. I took this as a sign the democrats went more centrist along with other candidates signaling the same.
MAGA is not far right. It is a populist movement of 80 million Americans (possibly more depending how many votes got thrown out). They are calling for a review of electoral fraud evidence, or in other words the rule of law to be applied. Is that such an extreme idea to you? Because if so then you might be the extremist.
Post by: macsak on December 12, 2020, 01:28:58 PM
Bernie aint president. Perhaps you are correct and they might still fall apart.I’m not talking about Bernie
I’ll leave out “dumbshit” to be nice
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Post by: toku58 on December 12, 2020, 01:30:09 PM
It might be the overall plan for Joe to step down because of all this foreign dealings, Kamala becomes President and Pardons the Biden Cartel.
Then the Liberal Extreme Left gets full control of the Country!
We need to hope that the individual States who are still holding hearings come to their senses and send Trump Electorials to Washington and Puts Trump Back in the White House!
We are so close to losing this Country to Communist Socialism or Democratic Socialism like they call it, that it’s not funny!
General Flynn may have the right solution!
We need them to step up and disqualify this BS Election and have the Military run a new election! In person Voting ONLY!
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 12, 2020, 01:37:23 PM
My fear is that with the revelation of the Hunter investigations.
It might be the overall plan for Joe to step down because of all this foreign dealings, Kamala becomes President and Pardons the Biden Cartel.
Then the Liberal Extreme Left gets full control of the Country!
We need to hope that the individual States who are still holding hearings come to their senses and send Trump Electorials to Washington and Puts Trump Back in the White House!
We are so close to losing this Country to Communist Socialism or Democratic Socialism like they call it, that it’s not funny!
General Flynn may have the right solution!
We need them to step up and disqualify this BS Election and have the Military run a new election! In person Voting ONLY!
Would it be too much to hope for enough Biden electors to switch to Trump in light of the Biden investigations and accusations (and evidence) of shady electioneering?
I would not want to be one of the electors that put a corrupt lifetime politician in the White House knowing that there are ACTIVE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS and accusations by former business partners claiming Joe was involved in his son's and brother's foreign dealings.
Post by: hvybarrels on December 12, 2020, 01:43:40 PM
Would it be too much to hope for enough Biden electors to switch to Trump in light of the Biden investigations and accusations (and evidence) of shady electioneering?
I would not want to be one of the electors that put a corrupt lifetime politician in the White House knowing that there are ACTIVE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS and accusations by former business partners claiming Joe was involved in his son's and brother's foreign dealings.
I forget who but someone was arguing that the plan was to swap out Biden for Kamala all along, and now that the election looks like it is in the bag they can retire him in scandal and shuffle his corpse out the door. I am not so sure, simply because I cannot imagine anyone would actually want to listen to her smarmy condescending voice every day for four years.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 12, 2020, 01:50:31 PM
I forget who but someone was arguing that the plan was to swap out Biden for Kamala all along, and now that the election looks like it is in the bag they can retire him in scandal and shuffle his corpse out the door. I am not so sure, simply because I cannot imagine anyone would actually want to listen to her smarmy condescending voice every day for four years.
If they (Harris/Biden) run the administration like Obama, the sound bites on the MSM will be few and far between. Between taking selfies in a mirror to filling out NBA Finals Brackets, the only other times I saw him talking was after a mass shooting or a Black person being "victimized" by police or private citizens of white-hispanic descent.
Obama said his admin was the most transparent in history. :rofl: :rofl: Trump was Tweeting almost daily, but Obama was MIA most of the time unless he felt the need to lecture the nation on how "we're better than that," as an emotional plea for some policy/agenda push.
Yeah, I'm not worried about hearing Kamala everyday, but the people who work in the White House or provide security may need therapy.
Post by: aieahound on December 12, 2020, 02:52:02 PM
My fear is that with the revelation of the Hunter investigations.
It might be the overall plan for Joe to step down because of all this foreign dealings, Kamala becomes President and Pardons the Biden Cartel.
Then the Liberal Extreme Left gets full control of the Country!
I forget who but someone was arguing that the plan was to swap out Biden for Kamala all along, and now that the election looks like it is in the bag they can retire him in scandal and shuffle his corpse out the door. I am not so sure, simply because I cannot imagine anyone would actually want to listen to her smarmy condescending voice every day for four years.
Fawk!
This might be the perfect Coup D’etat.
With no force. Just blinders.
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 12, 2020, 05:08:52 PM
Nothing will happen to Hunter. Dnc controlled FBI #1 is dnc, #2 wont want to piss off the new boss.
Nothing will come of any federal investigations into voter fraud. See reason #1 above. Ill be very surprised if anything does, and this would be followed by a void of the election and a trump win. Fingers crossed though.
On a side note, BLM pissed its been 34 days since the Biden/harris campaigned communicated with them. They wondering whats up? Like that chick u bone 1 time and never call back.
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Post by: mrgaf on December 12, 2020, 07:13:41 PM
Post by: eyeeatingfish on December 12, 2020, 08:04:16 PM
My fear is that with the revelation of the Hunter investigations.
It might be the overall plan for Joe to step down because of all this foreign dealings, Kamala becomes President and Pardons the Biden Cartel.
Then the Liberal Extreme Left gets full control of the Country!
We need to hope that the individual States who are still holding hearings come to their senses and send Trump Electorials to Washington and Puts Trump Back in the White House!
We are so close to losing this Country to Communist Socialism or Democratic Socialism like they call it, that it’s not funny!
General Flynn may have the right solution!
We need them to step up and disqualify this BS Election and have the Military run a new election! In person Voting ONLY!
Kamala Harris wasn't really a far left candidate though, not compared to many of the other left candidates
Post by: omnigun on December 12, 2020, 09:56:43 PM
Kamala Harris wasn't really a far left candidate though, not compared to many of the other left candidates
I disagree, while she was no Bernie she wasn't like Pete. She was part of the more liberal side of democrats.
Post by: poke on December 12, 2020, 10:10:29 PM
Kamala Harris wasn't really a far left candidate though, not compared to many of the other left candidates
Green New Deal, reparations for black people, AWB, healthcare for illegals, packing the SCOTUS. Most would consider those to be far left views
Post by: Inspector on December 13, 2020, 04:55:22 AM
I forget who but someone was arguing that the plan was to swap out Biden for Kamala all along, and now that the election looks like it is in the bag they can retire him in scandal and shuffle his corpse out the door. I am not so sure, simply because I cannot imagine anyone would actually want to listen to her smarmy condescending voice every day for four years.I remember reading somewhere that Pelosi is readying her use of the 25th amendment because they say Joe ain’t leaving without a fight. But I can’t find the article now. Maybe my memory ain’t so good?
Post by: QUIETShooter on December 13, 2020, 08:39:18 AM
Post by: mrgaf on December 13, 2020, 11:17:56 AM
I personally wouldn't face my back toward kamala harris.
I would...she’s fuggin fugly and looks like a the south end of a north bound wilderbeast..... :-\
Post by: robtmc on December 13, 2020, 12:25:58 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/4bnnep.jpg)
Post by: mrgaf on December 13, 2020, 04:50:14 PM
Old Whoriss knows how to eat her way to the top. Though Bidet may be the wrong species from what she prefers.
(https://i.imgflip.com/4bnnep.jpg)
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: RSN172 on December 13, 2020, 10:43:18 PM
Kamala Harris wasn't really a far left candidate though, not compared to many of the other left candidates
Govtrackinsider.com says Kamala Harris voting record ranks her as the most liberal senator in 2019. I would call that extreme far left.
Post by: macsak on December 14, 2020, 05:20:51 AM
Govtrackinsider.com says Kamala Harris voting record ranks her as the most liberal senator in 2019. I would call that extreme far left.
eef and omni think this is not true, so it must not be true...
Post by: omnigun on December 14, 2020, 06:14:02 AM
eef and omni think this is not true, so it must not be true...
What? I disagreed with eef....
Post by: Brystont1 on December 14, 2020, 08:08:29 AM
What? I disagreed with eef....
But I thought the democrats defeated the far left.
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 14, 2020, 11:48:06 AM
But I thought the democrats defeated the far left.Isn't that talking out of both sides of your..... nevermind
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Post by: omnigun on December 14, 2020, 12:05:02 PM
But I thought the democrats defeated the far left.
Biden won not Bernie that was a huge turning point. Always going to have the crazy outliners probably from either newyork or cali.
Post by: MassConfusion on December 14, 2020, 12:05:35 PM
Unfortunately I really don't see any pleasant way out of the situation we are in. At least where trump is concerned.
So here us my question, since the 'other side' thought it was fine to go on a rampage when the didn't get their way, is it going to be acceptable for the parties on the trump side to do the same since that is the new normal when you don't get your way? Did the demorats set precedent for this sort of thing or are we living under extreme double standards?
:popcorn:
Post by: MassConfusion on December 14, 2020, 12:07:11 PM
Biden won not Bernie that was a huge turning point. Always going to have the crazy outliners probably from either newyork or cali.If you are going to turn up one day looking like you got worked over to concede your campaign, yeah I would say you got beat.
Post by: macsak on December 14, 2020, 12:19:28 PM
Biden won not Bernie that was a huge turning point. Always going to have the crazy outliners probably from either newyork or cali.
you're still missing the point...
Post by: Inspector on December 14, 2020, 12:41:12 PM
you're still missing the point...They used the same Dominion machines to beat Bernie. Twice! :rofl:
Post by: luckydog1 on December 14, 2020, 12:49:52 PM
Post by: hvybarrels on December 14, 2020, 12:53:50 PM
I'm feeling Biden will be benign. It's Harris that concerns me. Already trying to grab our guns with this speech re iterating Sandy Hook.https://www.foxnews.com/us/kamala-harris-sandy-hook-gun-reforms. >:(
The good thing is they are totally useless with lots of skeletons in the closet. If people think the antifa kids are going to listen to Super-Pig they have another thing coming. Trump would have been preferable, especially for struggling lower wage earners, but now we get to watch the left eat itself. At least there is some entertainment value there. :popcorn:
Post by: MassConfusion on December 14, 2020, 12:57:43 PM
The good thing is they are totally useless with lots of skeletons in the closet. If people think the antifa kids are going to listen to Super-Pig they have another thing coming. Trump would have been preferable, especially for struggling lower wage earners, but now we get to watch the left eat itself. At least there is some entertainment value there. :popcorn:Let's not forget the ultimate demise of the brown shirts.
Post by: hvybarrels on December 14, 2020, 01:07:39 PM
Let's not forget the ultimate demise of the brown shirts.
I would compare it to lighting a bag of crap on fire and then stomping it out. It is going to make a mess.
Post by: QUIETShooter on December 14, 2020, 01:36:17 PM
The good thing is they are totally useless with lots of skeletons in the closet. If people think the antifa kids are going to listen to Super-Pig they have another thing coming. Trump would have been preferable, especially for struggling lower wage earners, but now we get to watch the left eat itself. At least there is some entertainment value there. :popcorn:
The extreme left and progressives will be a constant pain in the ass for biden as they demand his attention to their agendas. Also I figure kamala will eventually drive him nuts as she exerts her "you know who really is in charge here" attitude upon him.
And I'm praying that the Georgia elections keep the senate in the republican majority. I hope America and the senate band together with the new battle cry: "I WILL NOT COMPLY.."
Post by: Inspector on December 14, 2020, 02:06:45 PM
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=38726.msg354622#msg354622
Post by: bass monkey on December 14, 2020, 03:42:26 PM
I would compare it to lighting a bag of crap on fire and then stomping it out. It is going to make a mess.
Like how the left was destroying cities, and when LEO & NG & "trumps military" were activated , they cried to the right asking for help. Dummies
Post by: groveler on December 14, 2020, 03:53:57 PM
I would compare it to lighting a bag of crap on fire and then stomping it out. It is going to make a mess.Sounds like we had the same misspent youth and the same kind of shitty neighbors.
For those youngsters out there they were called shitbags and only used on
the assholes in the neighborhood. We did not have enough money to waste eggs
or toilet paper.
Democrats just left a shitbag on our porches.
Just wait til the fire goes out.
Put some horse or cow shit in a carton of milk that is half full.
Let it ferment and return the favor.
That stench doesn't go away.
Post by: Inspector on December 14, 2020, 03:59:05 PM
Sounds like we had the misspent youth and the same kind of shitty neighbors.Not that I ever did this or anything.....
For those youngsters out there they were called shitbags and only used on
the assholes in the neighborhood. We did not have enough money to waste eggs
or toilet paper.
Democrats just left a shitbag on our porches.
Just wait til the fire goes out.
Put some horse or cow shit in a carton of milk that is half full.
Let it ferment and return the favor.
That stench doesn't go away.
Urine smell can not be gotten rid of out of concrete. So if you piss on someone’s porch, every morning when they go to work they smell your urine. It lasts for a VERY VERY long time, BTW. Don’t ask me how I know.....
There is a paint called Killz which was developed to paint over such problems. Just saying...
Post by: groveler on December 14, 2020, 04:20:15 PM
Not that I ever did this or anything.....You haven't by chance ever been through the BART at the Powell st station?
Urine smell can not be gotten rid of out of concrete. So if you piss on someone’s porch, every morning when they go to work they smell your urine. It lasts for a VERY VERY long time, BTW. Don’t ask me how I know.....
There is a paint called Killz which was developed to paint over such problems. Just saying...
BACK to the subject,
We have been handed a "shit sandwich and we are all going to have to take a bite"
another one is " what are you willing to do?"
Enough of movie lines (Full metal jacket and Untouchables)
America and our Hawaiian friends are going to get screwed
by big city liberals.
What is the plan? If you don't have one already,
you'd better be working on it.
I figure we have about six months before it starts to get
serious.
Post by: Inspector on December 14, 2020, 04:41:01 PM
You haven't by chance ever been through the BART at the Powell st station?Problem is it’s going to get bad no matter who the president is. Portland has it’s current autonomous zone. We’ll have more of those if Biden is president. If Trump stays president we will see more Democrat controlled cities burn. At least until Trump sends in the military. Fortunately I can carry now that I’m here. So going to the doctor and the store is better for the wife and I. Not that we live in an area that gets a lot of crime. But you can never be too prepared. I even open carry around the house now. Finally got supplies to a point where I feel I should be. It takes a while. I had to start over in April.
BACK to the subject,
We have been handed a "shit sandwich and we are all going to have to take a bite"
another one is " what are you willing to do?"
Enough of movie lines (Full metal jacket and Untouchables)
America and our Hawaiian friends are going to get screwed
by big city liberals.
What is the plan? If you don't have one already,
you'd better be working on it.
I figure we have about six months before it starts to get
serious.
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 14, 2020, 06:56:19 PM
Problem is it’s going to get bad no matter who the president is. Portland has it’s current autonomous zone. We’ll have more of those if Biden is president. If Trump stays president we will see more Democrat controlled cities burn. At least until Trump sends in the military. Fortunately I can carry now that I’m here. So going to the doctor and the store is better for the wife and I. Not that we live in an area that gets a lot of crime. But you can never be too prepared. I even open carry around the house now. Finally got supplies to a point where I feel I should be. It takes a while. I had to start over in April.Here's a new twist of things:
https://theamericanconservatives.net/exclusive-six-swing-states-pa-ga-mi-wi-az-and-nv-and-new-mexico-pick-slate-of-electoral-delegates-for-president-trump-and-joe-biden-heres-what-it-means/
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Post by: Inspector on December 15, 2020, 03:07:14 AM
Here's a new twist of things:I only heard about PA, GA and NV. I had not heard that MI, WI, AZ and NM joined in as well. That just gives more credence to the elections in those states to be flawed due to the rampant fraud. I would prefer they get their shit together and settle their elections per the constitution before January 6. No matter who they elect. But if they don’t, it may become a contested election. That is when things will become interesting. That is why I said in the next week or two we should see what direction the contested states go so we will have an idea of what is going to occur in January.
https://theamericanconservatives.net/exclusive-six-swing-states-pa-ga-mi-wi-az-and-nv-and-new-mexico-pick-slate-of-electoral-delegates-for-president-trump-and-joe-biden-heres-what-it-means/
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I like the last paragraph: “ So the Biden folks, the Democrat Party, Big Media, Big Tech, China and other foreigners can make the silly and refuted claim that Biden won the election. But we all know they are dishonest and have no respect for America or its Constitution.” I will add that they are also the ones that created and are supporting the fraudulent elections in those states and the illegal (per the constitution) certification of their votes. Which is exactly why the state legislatures voted for different electors than the governors appointed. In this case the constitution is very clear. The state legislatures have the authority to pick their states electors. Not the governors.
So true.
Post by: groveler on December 15, 2020, 08:01:22 AM
I only heard about PA, GA and NV. I had not heard that MI, WI, AZ and NM joined in as well. That just gives more credence to the elections in those states to be flawed due to the rampant fraud. I would prefer they get their shit together and settle their elections per the constitution before January 6. No matter who they elect. But if they don’t, it may become a contested election. That is when things will become interesting. That is why I said in the next week or two we should see what direction the contested states go so we will have an idea of what is going to occur in January." In this case the constitution is very clear. The state legislatures have the authority to pick their states electors. Not the governors. In this case the constitution is very clear. The state legislatures have the authority to pick their states electors. Not the governors. "
I like the last paragraph: “ So the Biden folks, the Democrat Party, Big Media, Big Tech, China and other foreigners can make the silly and refuted claim that Biden won the election. But we all know they are dishonest and have no respect for America or its Constitution.” I will add that they are also the ones that created and are supporting the fraudulent elections in those states and the illegal (per the constitution) certification of their votes. Which is exactly why the state legislatures voted for different electors than the governors appointed. In this case the constitution is very clear. The state legislatures have the authority to pick their states electors. Not the governors.
So true.
I'm not a fan of the courts, as such I don't expect that clarity to be recognized.
"So the Biden folks, the Democrat Party, Big Media, Big Tech, China and other foreigners can make the silly and refuted claim that Biden won the election. But we all know they are dishonest and have no respect for America or its Constitution.”
I'm trying to think of a new name for the United States of America since we are now anything but united.
Perhaps;
Democrat National Cities? DNC ( obvious)
Democrat Party Peoples State? DPPS ( as in dips)
Peoples Republic Of Democrats.? PROD ( as in cattle)
Indigenous Democrat Independent Opinionated Tyranical State? IDIOTS ( the truth)
Loser Operated Socialist Tyranny? LOST (as in don't have a clue)
Frightened Union Constitutionally Kept Empire Decidedly Under Powered.
Any others?
Post by: drck1000 on December 15, 2020, 08:27:05 AM
" In this case the constitution is very clear. The state legislatures have the authority to pick their states electors. Not the governors. In this case the constitution is very clear. The state legislatures have the authority to pick their states electors. Not the governors. "Not disputing your feedback to Inspector's post. However, if there's no penalty to not following the law, Constitution, etc, when what? (mostly rhetorical)
I'm not a fan of the courts, as such I don't expect that clarity to be recognized.
Post by: omnigun on December 15, 2020, 08:27:32 AM
" In this case the constitution is very clear. The state legislatures have the authority to pick their states electors. Not the governors. In this case the constitution is very clear. The state legislatures have the authority to pick their states electors. Not the governors. "
I'm not a fan of the courts, as such I don't expect that clarity to be recognized.
"So the Biden folks, the Democrat Party, Big Media, Big Tech, China and other foreigners can make the silly and refuted claim that Biden won the election. But we all know they are dishonest and have no respect for America or its Constitution.”
I'm trying to think of a new name for the United States of America since we are now anything but united.
Perhaps;
Democrat National Cities? DNC ( obvious)
Democrat Party Peoples State? DPPS ( as in dips)
Peoples Republic Of Democrats.? PROD ( as in cattle)
Indigenous Democrat Independent Opinionated Tyranical State? IDIOTS ( the truth)
Loser Operated Socialist Tyranny? LOST (as in don't have a clue)
Frightened Union Constitutionally Kept Empire Decidedly Under Powered.
Any others?
United States of America (USA) :rofl:
Post by: Inspector on December 15, 2020, 08:58:35 AM
Not disputing your feedback to Inspector's post. However, if there's no penalty to not following the law, Constitution, etc, when what? (mostly rhetorical)I fear this is the real reason the courts are too chicken shit to take on these cases. Because the feckless republicans/RINOs have allowed the democrat governors to usurp their authority over the picking of electors for so long that the courts are considering it normal. In some of the cases that Trump lost the reason given is that he didn’t file the suit soon enough. Considering most of them that were denied by that reason were filed fairly quickly after the election, I wonder if they meant that this should have been filled when the picking of electors was taken over by the governors instead and not just when you lose an election. Just a guess on my part.
Post by: Kuleana on December 15, 2020, 09:09:26 AM
United States of America (USA) :rofl:No, it's the oligopolistic led "United States of the American Empire" (USAE). :worship:
Post by: drck1000 on December 15, 2020, 09:22:44 AM
I fear this is the real reason the courts are too chicken shit to take on these cases. Because the feckless republicans/RINOs have allowed the democrat governors to usurp their authority over the picking of electors for so long that the courts are considering it normal. In some of the cases that Trump lost the reason given is that he didn’t file the suit soon enough. Considering most of them that were denied by that reason were filed fairly quickly after the election, I wonder if they meant that this should have been filled when the picking of electors was taken over by the governors instead and not just when you lose an election. Just a guess on my part.I've seen some speculation from those that "speak SCOTUS". Who knows. I could offer up guesses, but just guesses.
Overall, through all of this, I can't believe Americans are embracing the progressive-socialism or anything similar. Just makes me ::) and :grrr: for those who view folks like AOC as heroes for America. Seems like years of erosion of life skills and dependency and misunderstanding of "entitlements". That leads to folks essentially celebrating The Squad and "Woman Power" Kamala.
Post by: luckydog1 on December 15, 2020, 09:40:25 AM
Post by: Inspector on December 15, 2020, 09:43:02 AM
I've seen some speculation from those that "speak SCOTUS". Who knows. I could offer up guesses, but just guesses.I agree. However, with a little optimism I have been reading some articles of late that been describing a resurgence of religious children and republican generations making a comeback. The theory behind this is that secular couples now for numerous generations have been having an average of 1.5 children per couple. Where as the more religious and conservative couples have been averaging 2.5 children per couple. This is Gen Z. And they seem to generally want to avoid the mistakes made by The Millennials. As well as this a lot of Gen Z are avoiding traditional colleges and the progressive breeding grounds they have become. And I am hoping the newest generation will avoid this as well with all the online schools available these days. So hopefully we will see a more conservative bunch over the next generation or two.
Overall, through all of this, I can't believe Americans are embracing the progressive-socialism or anything similar. Just makes me ::) and :grrr: for those who view folks like AOC as heroes for America. Seems like years of erosion of life skills and dependency and misunderstanding of "entitlements". That leads to folks essentially celebrating The Squad and "Woman Power" Kamala.
Post by: groveler on December 15, 2020, 09:46:39 AM
Not disputing your feedback to Inspector's post. However, if there's no penalty to not following the law, Constitution, etc, when what? (mostly rhetorical)As far as I can see. Hawaii being an excellent example, the Constitution became toilet paper
many years ago. Laws are just for the STUPID people that follow them. Democrats are
"special needs" people and don't have to follow most laws.
As for "when[sic] what" I assume you meant "Then what"?
"Send lawyers, guns, and money, the shit has hit the fan".
Post by: drck1000 on December 15, 2020, 09:50:28 AM
Maybe it's the eternal optimist in me(I am not!) but the Biden administration has a tough act to follow. You may think that the Dems are too constricted and narrow focused and in a sense that's what won the fraudulent election for them but come 'on man. Trump brought record employment, record wages, a growing GDP, energy independence, strongest military, efficient VA, the list is longer than Rubber man's arm. You telling me the Dems will turn America upside down? They are more interested in lining their pockets and taking graft in the guise of paying off the public debt. Trump has laid an enormous golden egg for them, a cash cow so let's see how far dog shit can be thrown. It's all about greed and power, all it ever was.You have "tangile evidence" of that? That's not what the "news" is conveying. [/end sarcasm]
Post by: drck1000 on December 15, 2020, 09:53:08 AM
I agree. However, with a little optimism I have been reading some articles of late that been describing a resurgence of religious children and republican generations making a comeback. The theory behind this is that secular couples now for numerous generations have been having an average of 1.5 children per couple. Where as the more religious and conservative couples have been averaging 2.5 children per couple. This is Gen Z. And they seem to generally want to avoid the mistakes made by The Millennials. As well as this a lot of Gen Z are avoiding traditional colleges and the progressive breeding grounds they have become. And I am hoping the newest generation will avoid this as well with all the online schools available these days. So hopefully we will see a more conservative bunch over the next generation or two.If you want to see a "classic" depiction of the Millenial and Gen Z dynamic, check out a recent NCIS: Los Angeles episode. I don't have the episode number, but it's where NCIS needs the help of a burglar to solve a murder. It was fricken classic. I thought of some folks here in that interaction.
Also wondered if your generation thought the same of my MUCH younger generation. ;D :rofl:
Post by: omnigun on December 15, 2020, 10:25:36 AM
You have "tangile evidence" of that? That's not what the "news" is conveying. [/end sarcasm]
Last time I checked, GDP isn't doing that great, employment is down and Covid is killing hundreds of thousands. Wages collapsed, the trade deficit more than 4 years ago and countries don't respect Americas military. And correct me if I'm wrong...Trump is still president.
Post by: omnigun on December 15, 2020, 10:29:12 AM
If you want to see a "classic" depiction of the Millenial and Gen Z dynamic, check out a recent NCIS: Los Angeles episode. I don't have the episode number, but it's where NCIS needs the help of a burglar to solve a murder. It was fricken classic. I thought of some folks here in that interaction.
Also wondered if your generation thought the same of my MUCH younger generation. ;D :rofl:
https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/essay/on-the-cusp-of-adulthood-and-facing-an-uncertain-future-what-we-know-about-gen-z-so-far/
Gen Z does not appear to be more "conservative". Hell more disapprove of trump than millennials.
Post by: macsak on December 15, 2020, 10:31:49 AM
Last time I checked, GPD isn't doing that great, employment is down and Covid is killing hundreds of thousands. Wages collapsed, the trade deficit more than 4 years ago and countries don't respect Americas military. And correct me if I'm wrong...Trump is still president.
DNFTT
Post by: ren on December 15, 2020, 10:48:44 AM
Last time I checked, GPD isn't doing that great, employment is down and Covid is killing hundreds of thousands. Wages collapsed, the trade deficit more than 4 years ago and countries don't respect Americas military. And correct me if I'm wrong...Trump is still president.
WTF is a GPD? 什么他妈的
Post by: Kuleana on December 15, 2020, 11:18:24 AM
As far as I can see. Hawaii being an excellent example, the Constitution became toilet paperIts pretty obvious that many are still in-denial and think something can be done to resurrect the American Republic. This recent Presidential election was the final proof that anyone needed to see, if there was any hope, of restoring the America, to what its was before. Unfortunately, for those hopeful, the oligarchs that really control the empire, had enough of Trump getting in the way, of their plans. In fact, Trump should be lucky that he made it through his term, without getting the Kennedy treatment. From their perspective, this brief reprieve, of personal liberties, is over and now its back to the business of subjugating the masses and global domination.
many years ago. Laws are just for the STUPID people that follow them. Democrats are
"special needs" people and don't have to follow most laws.
As for "when[sic] what" I assume you meant "Then what"?
"Send lawyers, guns, and money, the shit has hit the fan".
From here on, those, who once believed, and longed, for the return of the republic, can either wait, for the final collapse and rebuild then, or take power now, by force-of-arms. However, judging how most are still holding out unrealistic hope, of the former, it appears the rapid return to neo-feudalism, with less personal liberties is on its way, till the empire's not that far inevitable collapse, from within.
Post by: groveler on December 15, 2020, 11:49:13 AM
Its pretty obvious that many are still in-denial and think something can be done to resurrect the American Republic. This recent Presidential election was the final proof that anyone needed to see, if there was any hope, of restoring the America, to what its was before. Unfortunately, for those hopeful, the oligarchs that really control the empire, had enough of Trump getting in the way, of their plans. In fact, Trump should be lucky that he made it through his term, without getting the Kennedy treatment. From their perspective, this brief reprieve, of personal liberties, is over and now its back to the business of subjugating the masses and global domination.Other than calling America an "Empire" you are pretty spot on.
From here on, those, who once believed, and longed, for the return of the republic, can either wait, for the final collapse and rebuild then, or take power now, by force-of-arms. However, judging how most are still holding out unrealistic hope, of the former, it appears the rapid return to neo-feudalism, with less personal liberties is on its way, till the empire's not that far inevitable collapse, from within.
" neo-feudalism, with less personal liberties"
is a good description
of Modern Hawaii under Democrat rule.
Post by: macsak on December 15, 2020, 11:51:55 AM
Its pretty obvious that many are still in-denial and think something can be done to resurrect the American Republic. This recent Presidential election was the final proof that anyone needed to see, if there was any hope, of restoring the America, to what its was before. Unfortunately, for those hopeful, the oligarchs that really control the empire, had enough of Trump getting in the way, of their plans. In fact, Trump should be lucky that he made it through his term, without getting the Kennedy treatment. From their perspective, this brief reprieve, of personal liberties, is over and now its back to the business of subjugating the masses and global domination.
From here on, those, who once believed, and longed, for the return of the republic, can either wait, for the final collapse and rebuild then, or take power now, by force-of-arms. However, judging how most are still holding out unrealistic hope, of the former, it appears the rapid return to neo-feudalism, with less personal liberties is on its way, till the empire's not that far inevitable collapse, from within.
i think your comma key is stuck...
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 15, 2020, 12:42:29 PM
i think your comma key is stuck...Comma again,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Post by: ren on December 15, 2020, 12:45:35 PM
i think your comma key is stuck...
you're an Imperialist
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 15, 2020, 12:49:22 PM
DNFTT
What's is this?
Post by: Inspector on December 15, 2020, 12:57:40 PM
What's is this?Do Not Feed The Troll. I have stopped responding to him. He doesn’t have a high enough IQ so I don’t want to waste my time responding.
Post by: drck1000 on December 15, 2020, 01:06:38 PM
Do Not Feed The Troll. I have stopped responding to him. He doesn’t have a high enough IQ so I don’t want to waste my time responding.10 watt light bulb. . .
Post by: MassConfusion on December 15, 2020, 01:08:47 PM
Do Not Feed The Troll. I have stopped responding to him. He doesn’t have a high enough IQ so I don’t want to waste my time responding.Sorry I can't resist.
Post by: macsak on December 15, 2020, 02:33:10 PM
What's is this?
Post by: Inspector on December 15, 2020, 02:38:12 PM
10 watt light bulb. . .That’s pretty dim! :rofl:
Post by: drck1000 on December 15, 2020, 02:52:42 PM
That’s pretty dim! :rofl:#NTB
#nottoobright (spelling it out for ya geezers ;D )
Post by: omnigun on December 15, 2020, 02:55:21 PM
Just cause I was skeptical of massfraud, and appear that I'm right don't mean yall gotta be so butthurt. Guess you all won't be convinced till Jan 20th. If thats even enough... :wacko:
Post by: Inspector on December 15, 2020, 02:59:18 PM
#NTBI got your “geezer’ right here you whippersnapper! :rofl:
#nottoobright (spelling it out for ya geezers ;D )
Post by: ren on December 15, 2020, 03:00:12 PM
Sorry I can't resist.
need moar!
lol
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 15, 2020, 05:51:20 PM
need moar!Moar!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201216/00891862c245e80c1779368f9dab4929.jpg)
lol
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Post by: eyeeatingfish on December 15, 2020, 08:59:49 PM
Green New Deal, reparations for black people, AWB, healthcare for illegals, packing the SCOTUS. Most would consider those to be far left views
Here and there.
She also has a background of tough on crime as a prosecutor so I see her as a bit of a mixed bag. Not the best but not the worst of the democrats either.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 15, 2020, 10:15:46 PM
Here and there.
She also has a background of tough on crime as a prosecutor so I see her as a bit of a mixed bag. Not the best but not the worst of the democrats either.
You missed the debate when Tulsi called out Camela's ABUSIVE criminal justice record.
Post by: punaperson on December 16, 2020, 07:47:56 AM
You missed the debate when Tulsi called out Camela's ABUSIVE criminal justice record.Dude, what's with the deliberately disrespectful incendiary rhetoric? It's COMMA-la.
[Everyone gets the reference, right? Tucker Carlson... pronouncing her name ka-MAL-a... lefties throwing a fit... no? Then there's tape of China Bidet pronouncing it that way... okay, never mind...]
Post by: zippz on December 16, 2020, 08:19:33 AM
Kamala Harris wasn't really a far left candidate though, not compared to many of the other left candidates
Harris is the most far left in the Senate and among the presidential candidates, however she's not the most far left in Congress. Talib and AOC and a few others in the House are more far left than Harris. Senate seems more subdued probably cause you have to appeal to a larger voting base to get elected vs the House.
Post by: drck1000 on December 16, 2020, 08:26:10 AM
Harris is the most far left in the Senate and among the presidential candidates, however she's not the most far left in Congress. Talib and AOC and a few others in the House are more far left than Harris. Senate seems more subdued probably cause you have to appeal to a larger voting base to get elected vs the House.I think many in Congress feel like they need to remain relevant due to the shorter terms. The "any news is good news" lines of thinking. Sad thing is so many view AOC as some sort of hero and beacon of hope. Aicarumba
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 16, 2020, 08:26:26 AM
Post by: luckydog1 on December 16, 2020, 10:25:34 AM
Post by: Inspector on December 16, 2020, 11:13:16 AM
OK OK OK. We need to come to an understanding about this election. Maybe we should never give up on Trump, afte rall he is 50% poorer now than when he started his term and never gave up on us. Middle class even became 6500 dollars richer this past year and he never gave up on us. Always knew there was another way out--the Congress. Please open and read--https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/michigans-matt-sealy-explains-president-trump-several-paths-victorynever-count-donald-trump-video/. Quite simply he has a chance but needs to talk all the Rinos into it. It's a chance and maybe next month I'll be able to buy CCI standard velocity target for under 40 bucks.Admittedly it is a long shot. But as long as Trump continues to fight, and more fraud evidence comes out, and more states investigate and the more lawsuits that are filed the better his chances. Whether you want Trump to win or lose it is all going to come down to what happens on January 6. We don’t know what path this is going to take nor do we know who is going to come to the forefront to do what is best for their constituents. We will just have to wait and see.
I think the biggest thing we need to find out is if the Dominion Voting machines that were used in Maricopa County here in AZ have been compromised or not. Once the audit results are known next week or as early as this weekend we should know what path this is going to take. If they have been then the question (by some) as to whether there has been widespread vote fraud and election tampering will be answered. And that would garner support from a lot more people. It if it turns out to not show fraud then I expect it will be a tough path for trump. Still not out of it, but a bigger long shot than it already is. JMHO
Post by: MassConfusion on December 16, 2020, 11:27:17 AM
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) quashed two election integrity bills in July last year after receiving thousands in donations from Dominion lobbyists.
In July, McConnell blocked two bills, one that would provide $775 million to “bolster election security,” along with requiring a physical paper trail of every single ballot cast in the country, and a second that would mandate political candidates, their staff members, and their families, to notify the FBI if any foreign government offered to assist them.
"Clearly this request is not a serious effort to make a law. Clearly something so partisan that it only received one single solitary Republican vote in the House is not going to travel through the Senate by unanimous consent,” said McConnell on the Senate floor, as he refused to allow the bills to be put to a vote.
....
https://nationalfile.com/dominion-lobbyists-paid-mcconnell-thousands-before-he-crushed-election-integrity-bills-ignored-election-contests/
Shocked I tell you just shocked.
Post by: eyeeatingfish on December 16, 2020, 09:30:19 PM
You missed the debate when Tulsi called out Camela's ABUSIVE criminal justice record.
Nope, I saw it. Doesn't make her more left or more right though.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 16, 2020, 09:33:19 PM
Nope, I saw it. Doesn't make her more left or more right though.
You said she was "tough on crime."
I reminded you she abused the people she put in prison -- some for breaking the same law (pot use) that she admitted doing herself on a public podcast and then LAUGHING in that hideous cackle of hers about it.
I never said anything about left or right.
Post by: aieahound on December 16, 2020, 09:45:55 PM
You said she was "tough on crime."
I reminded you she abused the people she put in prison -- some for breaking the same law (pot use) that she admitted doing herself on a public podcast and then LAUGHING in that hideous cackle of hers about it.
I never said anything about left or right.
Then you lost track of what the whole conversation was about at that point and the context of his reply.
Good at spelling and grammar and all the schoolhouse rock stuff but no comprehension.
I would think that would make her more conservative. But she’s a chameleon. A consummate politician.
Post by: MassConfusion on December 16, 2020, 10:09:46 PM
Trump’s End Game
By: Mark Landsbaum
The good news is it’s still entirely possible for Donald Trump to be reelected. The bad news is that it is likely to come down to the RINOs.
Joe Biden, in his cough-punctuated speech Monday night, declared victory and enumerated all the ways that he defeated Donald Trump – seven million more votes, a “landslide” in Electoral College votes coupled with Trump’s zero batting average in every courtroom to hear his case so far.
But there is now also a hugely encouraging fact: on Monday Trump won his most significant battle yet when seven swing states sent pro-Trump electors to Washington. Now, someone must decide whether to accept the Biden slate of electors for those states, which also were sent on Monday, or the Trump slates.
Millions of Americans are persuaded there was widespread systemic fraud and corruption in the 2020 vote. But, a number of courts have seen heaps of evidence, affidavits etc. Yet, they’ve taken zero action favorable to Trump.
That’s because the electoral system, as devised, makes it impossible to effectively challenge voting fraud. No court can process sufficiently and fairly all the evidence, claims and counterclaims, testimony, etc. in the time between election day and the day electors are chosen. It takes about half the available time just to research and pull together cases and file them. Cases this complicated take months, even years to be resolved in courts.
No court was about to overturn a national election based on what are essentially only allegations in a lawsuit without testing their veracity in a full-blown trial with the accused allowed to present their case, and both sides engaging in cross examination, discovery and other requisite legal niceties to determine whether the allegations hold water. That just wasn’t ever going to happen. Certainly not by Dec. 14 when Electoral College electors were sent to Washington.
........ Cont.
https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/president-trumps-end-game/
Post by: Inspector on December 17, 2020, 02:25:52 AM
An interesting look at the current state of dysfunction. All may not be lost yet, there seems to be a chance though at least according to this.The way I see it, and I certainly could be wrong, is that most if not all of the lawsuits brought by Trump and his team were not meant to win. Yes, it makes no sense to file a lawsuit if you don’t think you can win. So hear me out. I believe that all these lawsuits are mostly designed to bring all the evidence they have, and they have a ton of evidence, to the forefront for the public to see. Because the media isn’t reporting it, they needed a way to put it out in the open. These lawsuits forced open hearings with state legislatures. And what better way than forcing hearings with state legislatures that are nationally televised. If they won a suit or two along the way, better yet. I believe the lawsuits have had the desired effect. Those 7 states that sent their own electors was due directly to the election fraud hearings brought on by the lawsuits. Whoever came up with this plan is a genius.
Trump’s End Game
By: Mark Landsbaum
The good news is it’s still entirely possible for Donald Trump to be reelected. The bad news is that it is likely to come down to the RINOs.
Joe Biden, in his cough-punctuated speech Monday night, declared victory and enumerated all the ways that he defeated Donald Trump – seven million more votes, a “landslide” in Electoral College votes coupled with Trump’s zero batting average in every courtroom to hear his case so far.
But there is now also a hugely encouraging fact: on Monday Trump won his most significant battle yet when seven swing states sent pro-Trump electors to Washington. Now, someone must decide whether to accept the Biden slate of electors for those states, which also were sent on Monday, or the Trump slates.
Millions of Americans are persuaded there was widespread systemic fraud and corruption in the 2020 vote. But, a number of courts have seen heaps of evidence, affidavits etc. Yet, they’ve taken zero action favorable to Trump.
That’s because the electoral system, as devised, makes it impossible to effectively challenge voting fraud. No court can process sufficiently and fairly all the evidence, claims and counterclaims, testimony, etc. in the time between election day and the day electors are chosen. It takes about half the available time just to research and pull together cases and file them. Cases this complicated take months, even years to be resolved in courts.
No court was about to overturn a national election based on what are essentially only allegations in a lawsuit without testing their veracity in a full-blown trial with the accused allowed to present their case, and both sides engaging in cross examination, discovery and other requisite legal niceties to determine whether the allegations hold water. That just wasn’t ever going to happen. Certainly not by Dec. 14 when Electoral College electors were sent to Washington.
........ Cont.
https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/president-trumps-end-game/
The path has been paved for Trump. I think the big thing we need to wait for is the forensic audits of the Dominion machines here in AZ. If they come back with evidence of tampering then I think Trump might have a slam dunk on his hands. If they come back with no evidence and the machines have not been wiped then the path might be difficult for him. If they come back as being wiped clean I think that can be used as a good thing for Trump (hiding evidence).
The fact that the courts have not wanted to take on the lawsuits is expected and in some cases I completely agree. The Texas lawsuit I thought had merit and standing. I really think SCOTUS let us down with that one. But it is what it is. Whatever the reasons, the Trump Team lawsuits are doing a lot of good. Because no matter who actually wins the election, being transparent is always the best way of doing things in government when it comes to elections. JMHO
Post by: luckydog1 on December 17, 2020, 07:04:13 AM
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 17, 2020, 07:20:08 AM
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Post by: eyeeatingfish on December 20, 2020, 06:14:53 PM
You said she was "tough on crime."
I reminded you she abused the people she put in prison -- some for breaking the same law (pot use) that she admitted doing herself on a public podcast and then LAUGHING in that hideous cackle of hers about it.
That was kind of my point, she was so tough she abused her power to put people in prison. Sorry I didn't make that clear. What I was getting at though is that she isn't a far left progressive liberal.
Post by: hvybarrels on December 21, 2020, 03:29:10 AM
That was kind of my point, she was so tough she abused her power to put people in prison. Sorry I didn't make that clear. What I was getting at though is that she isn't a far left progressive liberal.
Kamala is a chameleon. She stands for nothing and only does what she thinks will bring her more power. If modern day slavery will fund her campaign then she prosecutes low level drug offenses and keeps people in prison beyond their time. If having the BLM army out destroying cities is terrifying her "base" into compliance then she will encourage rioting and violence. This makes her extremely dangerous. Anyone can wave a dollar bill in front of her face and get what they want, including hostile foreign powers.
Post by: QUIETShooter on December 21, 2020, 06:14:26 AM
joe is old and might not be able to fulfil his duties. I'm very skeptical about politicians that served 4 decades and is praised for their ability to "make a deal....."
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 21, 2020, 09:12:54 AM
Kamala is a chameleon. She stands for nothing and only does what she thinks will bring her more power. If modern day slavery will fund her campaign then she prosecutes low level drug offenses and keeps people in prison beyond their time. If having the BLM army out destroying cities is terrifying her "base" into compliance then she will encourage rioting and violence. This makes her extremely dangerous. Anyone can wave a dollar bill in front of her face and get what they want, including hostile foreign powers.
Their campaign still ignoring contact from BLM, been about 38 days now. They're not happy. Guess they are dumb enough to think Biden/Harris would actually help them with anything.
Post by: drck1000 on December 21, 2020, 09:16:31 AM
kamala terrifies me more than joe. The fact that she is an inch away from being the most powerful leader in the world makes me shit my pants. That's if of course, Trumps last effort to overturn the election results fails.I agree that Kamala is the dangerous one in this situation, on many levels. So many things about her, her past, her record and HOW her star rose have many red flags. That she's embraced by so many as being a hero is ::)
joe is old and might not be able to fulfil his duties. I'm very skeptical about politicians that served 4 decades and is praised for their ability to "make a deal....."
Jeriatric Joe is another one altogether. :-X