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Title: Criminal shoots himself in the neck. Mother sue's SF police
Post by: jasoncredible on July 31, 2012, 11:33:05 PM
I can come to agree, shooting somebody in the back while they are running away is wrong.  Bur shooting yourself in the neck while trying to shoot at police with a weapon involved in the murder of a pregnant 19 year old women. and calling it police brutality is beyond me.

http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Mother-sues-SF-police-over-son-s-death-3747717.php (http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Mother-sues-SF-police-over-son-s-death-3747717.php)
Title: Re: Criminal shoots himself in the neck. Mother sue's SF police
Post by: SpeedTek on August 01, 2012, 12:05:35 AM
What do you expect it is San Francisco......Kalifornia
Title: Re: Criminal shoots himself in the neck. Mother sue's SF police
Post by: 230RN on August 01, 2012, 03:36:33 AM
I guess the central point is in the alleged delay in getting treatment for his wounds.

With the enumeration of all his less than legal activities, including the fact that he was on parole and hence barred from even posessing a firearm (let alone a stolen one), it makes me wonder whatever happened to the "clean hands" theory of jurisprudence?

I seem to recall that this was a legal principle which barred someone from suing for damages incurred while involved in illegal activity.

I ain't no lawyer, but that's how I thought things were supposed to work.  However, I may be talking from mere hearsay, faulty memories, and an antique conception of right and wrong.

However, if it is a matter of the police deliberately delaying getting medical help and letting him bleed out while just lying there doing nothing criminal at that moment, she might have a case.

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Criminal shoots himself in the neck. Mother sue's SF police
Post by: Inspector on August 01, 2012, 05:08:19 AM
San Fran is one of those cities that actually attempted to ban gun ownership. A state appeals court knocked the law down but you can imagine that the voters in San Fran were the ones to initiate the ban says a lot about the place.
Title: Re: Criminal shoots himself in the neck. Mother sue's SF police
Post by: Izanagi on August 01, 2012, 10:06:04 AM
I can come to agree, shooting somebody in the back while they are running away is wrong.  Bur shooting yourself in the neck while trying to shoot at police with a weapon involved in the murder of a pregnant 19 year old women. and calling it police brutality is beyond me.

http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Mother-sues-SF-police-over-son-s-death-3747717.php (http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Mother-sues-SF-police-over-son-s-death-3747717.php)

i say good riddance.  People like that shouldn't be allowed to breath. 
Title: Criminal shoots himself in the neck. Mother sue's SF police
Post by: TeamMidori on August 01, 2012, 11:21:21 AM
Found this while reading that article.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/California-court-reinstates-lawsuit-against-Glock-3733774.php
Title: Criminal shoots himself in the neck. Mother sue's SF police
Post by: hnl.flyboy on August 01, 2012, 01:11:40 PM
Writhing in pain or not, I won't be approaching someone who just fired at me. Guys in the Middle East still get shots off even after being mortally wounded.

Regardless, if he severed an artery in his neck, nothing the officers could've done could save him.
Title: Re: Criminal shoots himself in the neck. Mother sue's SF police
Post by: Surf on August 01, 2012, 05:39:29 PM
Without really knowing all the facts, good luck to them on the failure render aid claim.  There is plenty of case law on this one including a big one stemming right here from Honolulu's 9th Circuit court of appeals. 
Title: Re: Criminal shoots himself in the neck. Mother sue's SF police
Post by: Izanagi on August 01, 2012, 05:47:13 PM
Found this while reading that article.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/California-court-reinstates-lawsuit-against-Glock-3733774.php (http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/California-court-reinstates-lawsuit-against-Glock-3733774.php)

lol what...a grip safety strong enough to withstand the strength of a child?????  So are they going to make the glock trigger be 15lbs or something?  I don't get it.  They're talking "grip safety".  As far as i know, that's what xd's, xdm's and 1911's have.  None of which have any strength that can withstand the grasp of a child.