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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: hvybarrels on January 23, 2021, 09:12:07 PM
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Are we ready for the INGSOC flip-of-the-week?
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/amazon-demands-person-union-vote-after-arguing-mail-ballots-raise-risk-fraud
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that's internal voting for them not the country's election system - because as we have seen we had the most honest, fair and MOST turnout in 2020! And a President that garnered more votes than any other candidate in history! :worship:
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Just an attempt to disincentivize voters.
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some people can't read
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some people can't read
I would say can't think for themselves
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Just an attempt to disincentivize voters.
Yeah. Jeff Bezos is SUCH a Republican!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I thought Democrats were all about maximum participation. But you're accusing him of trying to lower participation?
Maybe he just doesn't want the same fraud-enabling process that helped Biden win to unfairly decide the outcome of the union organizing election?
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Yeah. Jeff Bezos is SUCH a Republican!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I thought Democrats were all about maximum participation. But you're accusing him of trying to lower participation?
Maybe he just doesn't want the same fraud-enabling process that helped Biden win to unfairly decide the outcome of the union organizing election?
Voter disenfranchisement isn't party based. There are reasons Amazon doesn't want unions...
If you really want to you can make mail voting very secure. Unique info etc. Or 2fa online.
Still no proof biden won unfairly #fakenews
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Voter disenfranchisement isn't party based. There are reasons Amazon doesn't want unions...
If you really want to you can make mail voting very secure. Unique info etc. Or 2fa online.
Still no proof biden won unfairly #fakenews
So, you admit mail-in voting is not secure, because the things you are referring to that could make it "very secure" haven't been done.
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so dumb. Where in Amazon's internal election is Biden running?
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so dumb. Where in Amazon's internal election is Biden running?
Biden isn't the problem. Election tampering and fraud has been a problem in certain cities for decades. Nobody wants to fix it, because the people in office benefitted -- or at least don't want their elections to be in question.
The Amazon thing is just another example of hypocrisy, since Dems are in collusion with Big Tech and are proponents of mail-in voting.
Amazon showed their true allegiance to the Big Tech-Democrat-Far-Left ideals by kicking Parler off their servers. Until now, Amazon just made massive contributions to Dems and their PACs.
Google’s parent company Alphabet is one of the largest corporate donors during the 2020 election cycle. The company’s employees and PACs have contributed a total of $21 million to presidential and congressional candidates since 2019.
Nearly 80 percent of the funds went to Democrats, while just 7 percent went to Republicans.
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Microsoft
Total contribution: $17 million
Top recipients: Joe Biden, Democrat super PACs
Also a major donor in the 2020 election season, Microsoft’s PACs and employees shelled out a total $17 million to presidential and congressional candidates through individual and PAC donations.
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Amazon
Total contribution: $8.9 million
Top recipients: Joe Biden
The e-commerce giant contributed $8.9 million through individual and PAC donors to federal candidates.
While Democrats received the majority of the money, Amazon has one of the highest Republican funding rates among “Big Tech” donors, contributing $922,000, or 14 percent of total funds, to federal Republican candidates.
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Facebook
Total contribution: $6 million
Top recipients: Joe Biden
Employees and PACs affiliated with Facebook donated a total of $6 million during the 2020 election cycle. More than 92 percent of the funds came from individuals. Mirroring Google’s and Microsoft’s partisan splits, Facebook spent nearly 80 percent of the funds on Democrats and only 10 percent on Republicans.
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Apple
Total contribution: $5.7 million
Top recipients: Joe Biden
Apple doesn’t have its own PAC. But the company’s employees and their family members contributed a total of $5.7 million in the 2020 election cycle. Nearly 80 percent of the money went to Democrats. And a paltry 4.3 percent went to Republicans.
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Netflix
Total contribution: $5.42 million
Top recipients: Democrat super PACs
Like Apple, Netflix also doesn’t have a PAC. Yet, its employees and their family members contributed a total of $5.42 million during the 2020 election cycle.
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Twitter
Total contribution: $689,000
Top recipients: Joe Biden
Twitter employees and their family members contributed $689,000 in the 2020 election cycle, mostly to Democrat presidential candidates.
https://observer.com/2020/11/big-tech-2020-presidential-election-donation-breakdown-ranking/
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So, you admit mail-in voting is not secure, because the things you are referring to that could make it "very secure" haven't been done.
There's different levels as with everything in life. You can make in person voting more secure too. Nothing is perfect.
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There's different levels as with everything in life. You can make in person voting more secure too. Nothing is perfect.
Mail-in voting will never be as secure as in-person voting.
So, how bad is "not too bad" when it comes to protecting the democratic process in the US? Nobody is asking for perfect (this is the government, after all). We are asking for common sense measures that prevent cheating -- period. That should not be a partisan issue. Ever wonder why the Democrats are the only party having an issue with voter ID, cleaning up registration roles, ensuring proper observation in all phases of ballot handling and counting, and answering the "Why?" when an anomaly is identified? Cockroaches are afraid of the light.
We do more to protect against cheating on the SAT than we do to ensure election integrity. All SAT tests are still being administered IN PERSON & photo ID is required -- not online, and not via mail-in answer sheets. I guess the pandemic hasn't upended everything, huh?
BTW, you do know states like PA planned to do an all-absentee-ballot election (no justification needed) in October, 2019, long before the pandemic started, right? COVID was just a convenient excuse.
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so let me understand this - a victim of blatant online fraud is giving us advice
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so let me understand this - a victim of blatant online fraud is giving us advice
If it were anyone else, I might say he has the experience to backup his advice.
Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to learn from these experiences. His advice isn't worth the electrons used to transmit them.
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It's all about the risk to reward ratio. Even if you compare the scam. Out of over 1000 transactions online I got scammed once. Being too worried about that and only shopping in person just isn't practical. I have saved far more money and effort shopping online than I have lost in fraud. Just like of fraud happens very infrequently because of Mail in voting the reward of accessibility is worth the risk. I would prefer they don't send it to everyone. I don't support that aspect. Hopefully they learn from the past. But to say the election was overturned because of fraud without evidence is like saying eBay scams me every other package. It's just not true.
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It's all about the risk to reward ratio. Even if you compare the scam. Out of over 1000 transactions online I got scammed once. Being too worried about that and only shopping in person just isn't practical. I have saved far more money and effort shopping online than I have lost in fraud. Just like of fraud happens very infrequently because of Mail in voting the reward of accessibility is worth the risk. I would prefer they don't send it to everyone. I don't support that aspect. Hopefully they learn from the past. But to say the election was overturned because of fraud without evidence is like saying eBay scams me every other package. It's just not true.
So, now this thread is about you (as usual)?
Go figure.
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So, now this thread is about you (as usual)?
Arguing with those she despises defines her it seems.
Would love to see the reports back to her social masturbation groups after vanquishing those old racist geezers on that GUN forum !
No wonder those millennials spend all day peering at their precious iFag screens.
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Arguing with those she despises defines her it seems.
Would love to see the reports back to her social masturbation groups after vanquishing those old racist geezers on that GUN forum !
No wonder those millennials spend all day peering at their precious iFag screens.
...the range is just so far to shoot....but I'll post about shooting all day
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So, now this thread is about you (as usual)?
Go figure.
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Since you made it about my experiences in your own post :crazy:
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And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a textbook thread derail
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He called it
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It's all about the risk to reward ratio. Even if you compare the scam. Out of over 1000 transactions online I got scammed once. Being too worried about that and only shopping in person just isn't practical. I have saved far more money and effort shopping online than I have lost in fraud. Just like of fraud happens very infrequently because of Mail in voting the reward of accessibility is worth the risk. I would prefer they don't send it to everyone. I don't support that aspect. Hopefully they learn from the past. But to say the election was overturned because of fraud without evidence is like saying eBay scams me every other package. It's just not true.
uhhhhhh.........
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=28291.msg251067#msg251067
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So, now this thread is about you (as usual)?
Go figure.
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Ren made it about him, Omni just responded. Leave it be, debate the issue not the person.
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Ren made it about him, Omni just responded. Leave it be, debate the issue not the person.
No, Omni started going off on a tangent about his history of buying stuff.
That's not a response. It's whining.
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No, Omni started going off on a tangent about his history of buying stuff.
That's not a response. It's whining.
Wrong, reread page 1.
Ren first brought it up by making a personal attack on Omni falling for some scam. Omni just responded defending himself.
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Wrong, reread page 1.
Ren first brought it up by making a personal attack on Omni falling for some scam. Omni just responded defending himself.
Reread my response to you.
Omni couldn't just stop with a reply to the post by Ren. He had to go on and on, LYING about not being scammed but once out of 1000 purchases. Mac provided proof he lied.
He should have just stopped typing, but he can't.
You shouldn't be dragging his derailment further out by defending him.
Not every comment you disagree with requires a response.
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Reread my response to you.
Omni couldn't just stop with a reply to the post by Ren. He had to go on and on, LYING about not being scammed but once out of 1000 purchases. Mac provided proof he lied.
He should have just stopped typing, but he can't.
You shouldn't be dragging his derailment further out by defending him.
Not every comment you disagree with requires a response.
Read the link, no mention of how many purchases he made vs this one scam incident. I don't see proof he lied.
Ren made a personal attack on Omni and you are jumping on Omni for defending himself.
Looks like you need to take your own advice here.
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uhhhhhh.........
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=28291.msg251067#msg251067
Was scamming in person. Not online. :rofl:
Not a lie.
Reread my response to you.
Omni couldn't just stop with a reply to the post by Ren. He had to go on and on, LYING about not being scammed but once out of 1000 purchases. Mac provided proof he lied.
He should have just stopped typing, but he can't.
You shouldn't be dragging his derailment further out by defending him.
Not every comment you disagree with requires a response.
Actually read what is written before you try and slander next time? #fakenews
You seem to only say offtopic when it doesn't suit your beliefs.
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Reread my response to you.
Omni couldn't just stop with a reply to the post by Ren. He had to go on and on, LYING about not being scammed but once out of 1000 purchases. Mac provided proof he lied.
He should have just stopped typing, but he can't.
You shouldn't be dragging his derailment further out by defending him.
Not every comment you disagree with requires a response.
Also flapp I could have stopped if you didnt jump on this
If it were anyone else, I might say he has the experience to backup his advice.
Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to learn from these experiences. His advice isn't worth the electrons used to transmit them.
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Was scamming in person. Not online. :rofl:
Not a lie.
Actually read what is written before you try and slander next time? #fakenews
You seem to only say offtopic when it doesn't suit your beliefs.
Slander is spoken.
Libel is written, printed, film, etc.
Dumbass.
Every topic always becomes about you, huh?
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Was scamming in person. Not online. :rofl:
Not a lie.
it must be nice to never be wrong
deal originated on this forum, which is online or in person?
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it must be nice to never be wrong
deal originated on this forum, which is online or in person?
I am wrong sometimes, when I am I admit it. Deal started on this site, then was paid and "product" transferred in person. I would categorize it as not an online sale. No money or product was exchanged online. So 2/3 steps were in offline.
Vs the other scam which there was no offline component.
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I am wrong sometimes, when I am I admit it. Deal started on this site, then was paid and "product" transferred in person. I would categorize it as not an online sale. No money or product was exchanged online. So 2/3 steps were in offline.
Vs the other scam which there was no offline component.
So, you got scammed online AND in-person?
That's actually worse! The whole point of meeting up in-person is to avoid being scammed.
Not a ringing endorsement of your qualifications concerning voter system security measures. Easy to type words, but you have even less experience in the voting process, USPS policies and procedures, and so on.
Just stop trying to lecture on things about which you have no insight. You can't even protect yourself, much less the many voters who trust their votes will count, and that someone else isn't cheating & canceling their vote.
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Now it’s an official thread derailment perpetrated by multiple members.
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Oh, and
Reread my response to you.
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He should have just stopped typing, but he can't.
You shouldn't be dragging his derailment further...
Not every comment you disagree with requires a response.
Pot, calling Kettle.
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So, you got scammed online AND in-person?
That's actually worse! The whole point of meeting up in-person is to avoid being scammed.
Not a ringing endorsement of your qualifications concerning voter system security measures. Easy to type words, but you have even less experience in the voting process, USPS policies and procedures, and so on.
Just stop trying to lecture on things about which you have no insight. You can't even protect yourself, much less the many voters who trust their votes will count, and that someone else isn't cheating & canceling their vote.
And you have qualifications on voting? Stop accusing mass fraud where there is no evidence of. Most likely mirrors my personal experiences with fraud when 99.98% isn't. Your accusations make as much sense as if you were to argue that I get scammed every other deal. You have about the same level of evidence too. I can prove in court my fraud ratio.
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And you have qualifications on voting? Stop accusing mass fraud where there is no evidence of. Most likely mirrors my personal experiences with fraud when 99.98% isn't. Your accusations make as much sense as if you were to argue that I get scammed every other deal. You have about the same level of evidence too.
I've been voting since my senior year in high school.
That would mean I've been involved in the voting process for 40 years. Compare that to your, what, maximum of 2 elections? Four years?
I've also voted in NC, OK, VA, MD, TX and HI. I've voted absentee as a deployed military member twice in general elections.
Longer life = more experience
I think my opinions carry a bit more weight on this issue.
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