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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: GlockNewb on February 05, 2021, 11:19:45 AM
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https://youtu.be/0BEHO08r67U
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Billionaires paying the fines and restitution for felons in FL so they can vote.
Ballot harvesting being paid for by Dem organizations and candidates.
Republican ballot observers harassed and ejected from counting buildings for any and every made-up accusation (he's risking everyone's lives trying to stand closer to see, ...).
Ballots showing up at 3-4am with no explanation where they came from.
Video showing repeated scanning of the same ballots.
Hidden boxes of ballots scanned after the press and observers were told "No more counting tonight."
Machines proven to have flipped votes, in some cases changing the outcomes of other races. "Errors" are 100% in favor of the Dems, never the GOP candidates.
The lists go on and on.
"There's no difference in believing in something with no evidence and not believing in something with overwhelming evidence."
OG refuses to believe in God without proof, but he refuses to believe the election was rigged in spite of all the evidence. He is content to pretend that someone else not looking at the evidence (courts) is proof rather than trust his own analysis of the evidence presented.
Amazing, and scary.
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MSM published an article and laid the entire scheme bare for the world to see...that’s the scariest part I find.
“You don’t even have the decency to deny it.” — Tyrion Lannister to sister Cersei after she ordered the slaughtering of infants
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MSM published an article and laid the entire scheme bare for the world to see...that’s the scariest part I find.
“You don’t even have the decency to deny it.” — Tyrion Lannister to sister Cersei after she ordered the slaughtering of infants
Decency doesn't factor in when the ends justify the means. Win at all costs, even when it means destroying any appearance of integrity and fairness the elections may have had.
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OG refuses to believe in God without proof, but he refuses to believe the election was rigged in spite of all the evidence. He is content to pretend that someone else not looking at the evidence (courts) is proof rather than trust his own analysis of the evidence presented.
Who gives a damn what some millennial chick believes or thinks?
This is not Facef*ck where she desperately seeks licks or looks.....
Why you guys continue to waste your life and time with this is beyond me.
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Decency doesn't factor in when the ends justify the means. Win at all costs, even when it means destroying any appearance of integrity and fairness the elections may have had.
Agreed, more to my point was the fact that MSM purposefully accused us of what they were actually doing for at least a year (the PLANdemic) and now, they say they know they knew, and yet carried on for power regardless of the consequences, just like Littlefinger...
https://youtu.be/cFZen-XO5II
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Here is the link to the article:
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
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Who gives a damn what some millennial chick believes or thinks?
This is not Facef*ck where she desperately seeks licks or looks.....
Why you guys continue to waste your life and time with this is beyond me.
It's like swatting flies and spraying for roaches.
Someone has to take care of pest control....
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I wouldn't really call it a conspiracy. Wasn't exactly hidden. Also campaigns do this all the time, both sides. Trump even "conspired" to frame the election as fraud to win.
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I wouldn't really call it a conspiracy. Wasn't exactly hidden. Also campaigns do this all the time, both sides. Trump even "conspired" to frame the election as fraud to win.
Open or covert, it's still a conspiracy.
The media and Big Tech suppressed Trump's messaging while covering for Biden's gaffs and lack of details in his policy positions.
Who did Trump conspire with? The media couldn't get enough of Trump, and it was 90%+ bad. All to get clicks and ad revenue while trying to torpedo his campaign.
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I wouldn't really call it a conspiracy. Wasn't exactly hidden. Also campaigns do this all the time, both sides. Trump even "conspired" to frame the election as fraud to win.
If you have a chance, please watch the Tim Pool video. Conspiracies, propaganda, whatever you want to call it, both sides play the game to achieve victory.
But for all the people in the back who still don’t get why I fear this, let me quote the article (thanks Inspector for the link BTW), “Every attempt to interfere with the proper outcome of the election was defeated.”
Proper outcome? In a government of the people, by the people, and for the people? No. No. And no.
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Open or covert, it's still a conspiracy.
The media and Big Tech suppressed Trump's messaging while covering for Biden's gaffs and lack of details in his policy positions.
Who did Trump conspire with? The media couldn't get enough of Trump, and it was 90%+ bad. All to get clicks and ad revenue while trying to torpedo his campaign.
Funny you say what I bolded. I heard on Bongino’s podcast today that the news agencies and the late night comedy shows are suffering low ratings because they don’t have Trump to bitch about any more. :rofl:
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If you have a chance, please watch the Tim Pool video. Conspiracies, propaganda, whatever you want to call it, both sides play the game to achieve victory.
But for all the people in the back who still don’t get why I fear this, let me quote the article (thanks Inspector for the link BTW), “Every attempt to interfere with the proper outcome of the election was defeated.”
Proper outcome? In a government of the people, by the people, and for the people? No. No. And no.
I read the article twice and was considering posting it when I saw your post.
Proper outcome = predetermined outcome. Couldn’t have been done without committing fraud IMHO.
BTW, I heard today that SCOTUS has some of the state’s election manipulation cases on their docket. They will decide in February if they will hear any of them or not. I’m not going to hang my hat on them hearing any of them. But if they do, they are pretty straight forward and almost a slam dunk. So we should finally get some wins if they do. :thumbsup:
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If you have a chance, please watch the Tim Pool video. Conspiracies, propaganda, whatever you want to call it, both sides play the game to achieve victory.
But for all the people in the back who still don’t get why I fear this, let me quote the article (thanks Inspector for the link BTW), “Every attempt to interfere with the proper outcome of the election was defeated.”
Proper outcome? In a government of the people, by the people, and for the people? No. No. And no.
Yeah I agree, those in power seek to retain it or get it. I think our political environment needs to be revamped BOTH sides. Not sure how the best way is to accomplish this. I think the cause is money, but money is speech and we have free speech..
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Open or covert, it's still a conspiracy.
The media and Big Tech suppressed Trump's messaging while covering for Biden's gaffs and lack of details in his policy positions.
Who did Trump conspire with? The media couldn't get enough of Trump, and it was 90%+ bad. All to get clicks and ad revenue while trying to torpedo his campaign.
Propaganda fits a bit better. But BOTH sides are responsible. Trump was calling the election stolen and rigged before most if, any votes were cast. Clearly there was propaganda, and the democrats did the same trying to have biden win. Some mainstream media were clearly biased like the time article and were coordinated, but you have breitbart etc doing the same for the right.
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Propaganda fits a bit better. But BOTH sides are responsible. Trump was calling the election stolen and rigged before most if, any votes were cast. Clearly there was propaganda, and the democrats did the same trying to have biden win. Some mainstream media were clearly biased like the time article and were coordinated, but you have breitbart etc doing the same for the right.
So, everything you said in the previous post was wrong? Because you're now saying something totally different.
Maybe you should start thinking before typing. Would save us all a lot of work.
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Funny you say what I bolded. I heard on Bongino’s podcast today that the news agencies and the late night comedy shows are suffering low ratings because they don’t have Trump to bitch about any more. :rofl:
Since the beginning of the year, CNN ratings are down 44%.
And they were on a downward trend even before that dip.
:thumbsup: :geekdanc:
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Propaganda fits a bit better. But BOTH sides are responsible. Trump was calling the election stolen and rigged before most if, any votes were cast. Clearly there was propaganda, and the democrats did the same trying to have biden win. Some mainstream media were clearly biased like the time article and were coordinated, but you have breitbart etc doing the same for the right.
Doesn't matter if a single vote had been cast or not when Trump started calling out the election rigging.
Mail-in voting was ILLEGALLY USED in some swing states. Trump pointed that out as soon as it was being implemented, but the the Supreme Court refused to get involved before the election. After the election, they said, "What do you want us to do now? The election is over. Should have said something sooner." :wacko:
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All you folks and your references to the Talking Fawkin’ Heads.
The the only member whose posts I really weigh and trust are PunaP’s, because for the most part he posts facts, and God forbid, statistics.
Were State laws broken to allow counting of all mail in votes. Yes. Fact.
Did the Supreme Court rule on Federal law. Yes. Fact.
Was all this enough to swing the outcome of the election. Who knows.
Pick the talking heads on the side you want to be on and have at it.
Saved Democracy...Ruined Democracy...pick the Talking Heads and have at it.
Look at the Times article. Exposed corporate conspiracy while saving Democracy from an autocratic ruler. Couldn’t be more contradictory.
Cherry pick the facts, choose your Talking Heads of choice and follow and regurgitate their opinions for whatever side your on.
I’ll keep reading PunaP and his references. However, as far as I can tell no definitive conclusions can be drawn about the outcome of the election.
I can make my own inferences from the facts, both ways. But I continue to ignore the Talking Heads.
Propaganda from both sides.
It’s Politics as usual.
The pendulum swings.
P.S. Ben Shapiro is still pretty interesting though.
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https://youtu.be/0BEHO08r67U
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Billionaires conspiring against Trump?
Republicans doing nothing about it?
It can't be true, Wall Street and the ultrawealthy in America would never do something so un-American against the masses on Main Street. The people of America control the USA.
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:wtf:
Billionaires conspiring against Trump?
Republicans doing nothing about it?
It can't be true, Wall Street and the ultrawealthy in America would never do something so un-American against the masses on Main Street. The people of America control the USA.
The corporations and big banks backed Biden. The Democrats for the last few decades have become the party of big corporations.
Yet, the media and Dems still paint themselves as the party for the working people, and the GOP as the party that's for big business.
Tell a lie enough times, and people will believe it's the truth.
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The the only member whose posts I really weigh and trust are PunaP’s, because for the most part he posts facts, and God forbid, statistics.
I’ll keep reading PunaP and his references.
Hound, let me first say that PunaP has done a marvelous job in presenting and providing evidence in support of his position.
However, I am not saying he is wrong, but that is still his personal position. There is still another side to the argument that is not the propagandized one used by the power okole, to further their own interests, at the expense, of the masses.
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The corporations and big banks backed Biden. The Democrats for the last few decades have become the party of big corporations.
Yet, the media and Dems still paint themselves as the party for the working people, and the GOP as the party that's for big business.
Tell a lie enough times, and people will believe it's the truth.
Totally true.
However, the same ultrawealthy elite still exert influence on the GOP as well. To ignore that fact, is ignorant and irresponsible.
The only political parties that are not corrupted are the ones that are not allowed to compete, with the two party cheeks, of the same US imperial okole.
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Totally true.
However, the same ultrawealthy elite still exert influence on the GOP as well. To ignore that fact, is ignorant and irresponsible.
The only political parties that are not corrupted are the ones that are not allowed to compete, with the two party cheeks, of the same US imperial okole.
Not hard to influence the current state of the GOP. They had all branches 2016-2018, did nothing. Got punished for it in losing the house, never showed up for Georgia in 2020.
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Not hard to influence the current state of the GOP. They had all branches 2016-2018, did nothing. Got punished for it in losing the house, never showed up for Georgia in 2020.
Based on what you posted, the million dollar questions remain:
Why did they not do anything?
Were they taking orders not to do anything?
If so, then whose orders were they following?
Here is the kicker: answering correctly to the questions above, gets you on the US imperial domestic insurgent/terrorist watch list. :shake:
Taking action to address the above puts you on the US imperial domestic insurgent/terrorist hit list. :wacko:
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So, everything you said in the previous post was wrong? Because you're now saying something totally different.
Maybe you should start thinking before typing. Would save us all a lot of work.
What? Propaganda isn't a conspiracy... neither is partisanship and each side using their resources to affect an election. It's par for the course.
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Based on what you posted, the million dollar questions remain:
Why did they not do anything?
Were they taking orders not to do anything?
If so, then whose orders were they following?
1) once you got a comfy seat, what incentive would you have to succeed?
2) not doing anything doesn’t have to be an order
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Totally true.
However, the same ultrawealthy elite still exert influence on the GOP as well. To ignore that fact, is ignorant and irresponsible.
The only political parties that are not corrupted are the ones that are not allowed to compete, with the two party cheeks, of the same US imperial okole.
I'm not saying the GOP is or isn't actually doing anything. Just that the media and Dems paint the narrative the way people tend to accept as reality.
In my experience, political affiliation is no more valid than who their favorite NFL team is. No elected official's motivations and strategies are any different than the others. Their #1 objective is to gain and keep office.
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1) once you got a comfy seat, what incentive would you have to succeed?
You don't. Once you are in office, in today's corrupt electoral process, you are only responsible to the power okole that allowed you to win.
2) not doing anything doesn’t have to be an order
Inaction is an action, it is the conscious decision to do nothing.
During the Trump administration, it was clear there was no Russian collusion to get him elected. However, Trump was not able to lift the sanctions that were placed on Russia, prior to his administration. I am a believer that he would have done so, but was probably warned not to cross the power okole's bottom line with its imperial geopolitical goals, against Russia and China.
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I'm not saying the GOP is or isn't actually doing anything. Just that the media and Dems paint the narrative the way people tend to accept as reality.
In my experience, political affiliation is no more valid than who their favorite NFL team is. No elected official's motivations and strategies are any different than the others. Their #1 objective is to gain and keep office.
I am in total agreement.
I am only adding to your assessment by saying that in order to keep office in today's America, those career politicians ultimately must kowtow, to whatever the whims, of the power okole.
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I'm not saying the GOP is or isn't actually doing anything. Just that the media and Dems paint the narrative the way people tend to accept as reality.
If there is a silver lining to the current MSM narrative, it’s that it’s easier than ever to prove they’re lying, case and point —> https://youtu.be/5_TXUnlGNmI
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I am in total agreement.
I am only adding to your assessment by saying that in order to keep office in today's America, those career politicians ultimately must kowtow, to whatever the whims, of the power okole.
Agree. If the elected official is part of the Democrat or Republican Party, they MUST toe the party line in almost all issues or risk losing party support. That equates to a massive loss of campaign funds and resources and the possibility of being "primaried" in which another candidate from their party is given the party's support to win the primary and compete in the next general election. Most candidates who please the party and their voters are never primaried, so they coast straight into the general without wasting their funding on the primary.
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Hound, let me first say that PunaP has done a marvelous job in presenting and providing evidence in support of his position.
However, I am not saying he is wrong, but that is still his personal position. There is still another side to the argument that is not the propagandized one used by the power okole, to further their own interests, at the expense, of the masses.
:thumbsup: Roger That.
Shucks, I forgot Zippz too.
Everybody please pay attention to him on the legal and local politics stuff. :shaka:
Back to our scheduled programming.
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:thumbsup: Roger That.
Shucks, I forgot Zippz too.
Everybody please pay attention to him on the legal and local politics stuff. :shaka:
Back to our scheduled programming.
I agree zippiz is one of the few members here I really respect.
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I agree zippiz is one of the few members here I really respect.
"One of the few?"
That must mean you don't respect the majority of members here, because there are very many more members than just a "few".
I'm sure the few who earned your respect will be up late celebrating tonight. Might even light off some fireworks left over from the holidays!
We should buy these lucky few trophies or plaques to commemorate this auspicious honor.
Besides, EEF, and Zippiz (whoever that is), who else deserves this award?
:geekdanc: :thumbsup: :rofl: :rofl:
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Funny you say what I bolded. I heard on Bongino’s podcast today that the news agencies and the late night comedy shows are suffering low ratings because they don’t have Trump to bitch about any more. :rofl:
Samantha B is screwed.
Trump supporters stopped watching their BS years ago. Thats why ratings fell and now TDS people wont watch.
3.5 million for a 30 second super bowl commercial that already has 30% less viewership for games that cant have fans is also because the NFL supported BLM. Coke, pepsi, anheiser all not spending for SB commericials. Views down, why pay millions.
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"One of the few?"
That must mean you don't respect the majority of members here, because there are very many more members than just a "few".
I'm sure the few who earned your respect will be up late celebrating tonight. Might even light off some fireworks left over from the holidays!
We should buy these lucky few trophies or plaques to commemorate this auspicious honor.
Besides, EEF, and Zippiz (whoever that is), who else deserves this award?
:geekdanc: :thumbsup: :rofl: :rofl:
Respect goes both ways. 👏 that's all I'll say about it.
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Respect goes both ways. 👏 that's all I'll say about it.
People treat you the way you ask to be treated.
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Respect goes both ways.
If only you understood the irony ...
👏 that's all I'll say about it.
Why do I not belive you?
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"One of the few?"
That must mean you don't respect the majority of members here, because there are very many more members than just a "few".
The idea that someone that has lived a rich and varied life would give a shiite what some millennial thinks about them?
I have wild birds i feed that I care more about than what some millennial thinks.
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The idea that someone that has lived a rich and varied life would give a shiite what some millennial thinks about them?
I have wild birds i feed that I care more about than what some millennial thinks.
Right?
Respect really isn't something that "goes both ways." And if he doesn't get that, I'm not surprised.
You absolutely can respect someone who doesn't respect you if you're mature enough to accept the truth that maybe you aren't the most respect-worthy person in everyone's opinion. Also, not everyone knows you well enough to give you the respect you deserve.
This isn't a Christmas gift exchange where you only buy presents for the people who bought one for you. That's a petty way to go through life. "I won't like you unless you like me first."
I've respected lots of people I knew never had respect for me. And I know many people I never respected who did in fact respect me. I don't know how many times I've discovered someone who didn't like or respect me at first and changed their minds after getting to know me better.
True mutual respect is sometimes difficult to come by, especially when so many people have been taught they are the center of their universe.
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Laura Ingraham’s take, “Trump was right”:
https://youtu.be/0cw03E2eoQU
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Gents...
We are living in Orwell's 1984.
Doublespeak, doublethink.
We saw it a few days ago in that deceptively written "stand your ground" law.
The time magazine article flaunts it.