Post by: zippz on February 07, 2021, 08:46:58 AM
It doesn't take long to testify, 2 minutes on the AWB, 15 minutes if you want to do all of them. You don't have to write anything technical or lengthy, just a "This bill is unconstitutional" or "I oppose this bill because it would ban the rifles I use for work or for self-defense" is the minimum you need to write. You can write more of course. Deadlines are very short, testimony should be submitted 24 hours before the hearing time if possible.
https://hifico.org/test25/
Also head over the the 2A legal and activism section to learn more about this.
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If you need help, I have a weekly webinar to go over how to testify on Zoom and FB. One is tonight.
https://zoom.us/j/94233453160
www.fb.com/hificoorg
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Post by: jc2721 on February 07, 2021, 10:34:40 AM
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Post by: robtmc on February 07, 2021, 03:21:27 PM
One of the bastards signed onto that joke resolution claiming no individual 2A right a while back, so that letter probably did not good.
Post by: BaboonsFeet on February 07, 2021, 03:53:10 PM
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 07, 2021, 04:26:58 PM
Done, along with letters to each of my useless congress weasels.That was rhodes and chang.
One of the bastards signed onto that joke resolution claiming no individual 2A right a while back, so that letter probably did not good.
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Post by: robtmc on February 07, 2021, 04:54:54 PM
That was rhodes and chang.They had several sign onto it, Kanuha was one of them. Totally empty virtue signaling, but it exposed the bastard's intentions.
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Introduced by Democratic state Senators Stanley Chang of District 9, Karl Rhoads of District 13, Rosalyn Baker of District 6, Dru Kanuha of District 3, and Laura H. Thielen of District 25, SRC 42 urges the U.S. Congress to repeal the Second Amendment – or at the very least, to clarify it so that it no longer enshrines an individual right.
Post by: mrgaf on February 07, 2021, 05:11:53 PM
Post by: macsak on February 07, 2021, 05:26:32 PM
Done! :shaka:
submitted
Post by: ren on February 07, 2021, 05:31:36 PM
Post by: macsak on February 07, 2021, 05:34:36 PM
thanks to the couple who were gathering written testimonies from the shooters today
heads
Post by: ren on February 07, 2021, 05:48:22 PM
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Post by: fishandshoot on February 08, 2021, 12:04:12 AM
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Post by: stangzilla on February 08, 2021, 08:16:19 AM
Post by: QUIETShooter on February 08, 2021, 08:43:15 AM
I want them to start thinking that these stupid bills are only hurting the majority of responsible gun owners and only empowers the criminal element who don't follow laws.
I also mentioned that I strongly recommend they channel their energy and resources to battle the criminal element and mental illness, which are the biggest contributors to gun violence.
Finally I mentioned that firearms are tools. By itself it is incapable and unable to harm or kill anyone.
Post by: omnigun on February 08, 2021, 10:11:34 AM
Post by: robtmc on February 08, 2021, 10:17:50 AM
Post by: macsak on February 08, 2021, 10:30:07 AM
Submitted opposition to all bills. Glad we can unite on something regardless of politics, religion, ethics, etc.
you were supposed to support one of them...
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on February 08, 2021, 10:56:51 AM
you were supposed to support one of them...
Oopsie!
:rofl:
Post by: oldfart on February 08, 2021, 10:59:05 AM
you were supposed to support one of them......
:rofl:
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 08, 2021, 11:02:30 AM
you were supposed to support one of them...
No focus
Post by: groveler on February 08, 2021, 11:07:55 AM
Post by: omnigun on February 08, 2021, 11:08:40 AM
you were supposed to support one of them...
Lol I did. Should have been specific.
Post by: robtmc on February 08, 2021, 11:37:49 AM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on February 08, 2021, 12:07:54 PM
Lol I did. Should have been specific.
Were you lying then,
or are you lying now?
Post by: ren on February 08, 2021, 12:14:15 PM
Post by: macsak on February 08, 2021, 12:20:04 PM
Lol I did. Should have been specific.
you mean you were wrong?
that's what adults admit, rather than just saying "lol"
Post by: 6716J on February 08, 2021, 12:23:42 PM
Post by: omnigun on February 08, 2021, 12:33:28 PM
you mean you were wrong?
that's what adults admit, rather than just saying "lol"
I'll start fully writing out that I am wrong, when others do the same. Including yourself.
But yes I miswrote the sentence, it ment to say I completed the task from OP.
Post by: macsak on February 08, 2021, 12:38:25 PM
I'll start fully writing out that I am wrong, when others do the same. Including yourself.
But yes I miswrote the sentence, it ment to say I completed the task from OP.
"ment"?
Post by: ren on February 08, 2021, 12:39:39 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on February 08, 2021, 12:40:41 PM
"ment"?
"lol" is the new "My mistake."
Synonyms.
Post by: macsak on February 08, 2021, 12:42:00 PM
I'll start fully writing out that I am wrong, when others do the same. Including yourself.
But yes I miswrote the sentence, it ment to say I completed the task from OP.
i can see how easily you "miswrote" 'submitted opposition' instead of 'completed the task'
they are just a few keystrokes different...
Post by: omnigun on February 08, 2021, 12:42:16 PM
"ment"?
i can see how easily you "miswrote" 'submitted opposition' instead of 'completed the task'
they are just a few keystrokes different...
Yes, I wrote an incorrect statement, sorry.
Here is a fixed statement:
I have completed OP's request for testimonies.
Post by: macsak on February 08, 2021, 12:42:20 PM
"lol" is the new "My mistake."
Synonyms.
"my bad"
Post by: macsak on February 08, 2021, 12:43:16 PM
Yes, I wrote an incorrect statement, sorry.
Here is a fixed statement:
I have completed OP's request for testimonies.
you left out the backhanded swipe at the rest of the forum who are not as enlightened as you are...
Post by: omnigun on February 08, 2021, 12:45:33 PM
you left out the backhanded swipe at the rest of the forum who are not as enlightened as you are...
Not a backhanded statement but:
I have completed OP's request for testimonies. Glad we can unite on something regardless of politics, religion, ethics, etc.
Post by: aieahound on February 08, 2021, 12:54:56 PM
:stopjack:
We need everyone on 2A Hawaii, yes I really mean everyone, to submit testimony to block these bills (and pass one) like the Assault Weapons Ban that is being fast tracked through the legislature that would ban all of your AR15's, and pretty much all of your semiautos at that. We're trying to get 1000 in a week which is a monumental feat, so get your family, friends, and co-workers to do it. Kids too.
It doesn't take long to testify, 2 minutes on the AWB, 15 minutes if you want to do all of them. You don't have to write anything technical or lengthy, just a "This bill is unconstitutional" or "I oppose this bill because it would ban the rifles I use for work or for self-defense" is the minimum you need to write. You can write more of course. Deadlines are very short, testimony should be submitted 24 hours before the hearing time if possible.
https://hifico.org/test25/
Also head over the the 2A legal and activism section to learn more about this.
(https://i.imgur.com/jBrG71Y.jpg)
If you need help, I have a weekly webinar to go over how to testify on Zoom and FB. One is tonight.
https://zoom.us/j/94233453160
www.fb.com/hificoorg
(https://i.imgur.com/o9IHqnw.jpg)
Testimony submitted over weekend.
Thanks Zippz.
Keep ‘em coming as they come up. It’s greatly appreciated.
Post by: zippz on February 08, 2021, 01:01:22 PM
Post by: robtmc on February 08, 2021, 03:43:41 PM
"ment"?Publik Skools are not very good....
Post by: zhuzhits on February 08, 2021, 04:08:59 PM
Post by: macsak on February 08, 2021, 05:11:55 PM
Children, could you please stop your pointless bickering in threads that actually matter.
:stopjack:
Testimony submitted over weekend.
Thanks Zippz.
Keep ‘em coming as they come up. It’s greatly appreciated.
Post by: fishandshoot on February 08, 2021, 06:22:22 PM
I just texted some forum members I recently sold to/bought from the HIFICO link and got a lot of positive feedback that they will submit their testimony.
Worth a shot, since some people visit the forums infrequently.
Post by: eyeeatingfish on February 08, 2021, 07:51:58 PM
I emailed my representatives and Roves, don't think he will be too happy about whats in my email.
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 08, 2021, 09:10:42 PM
Submitted my testimony but now I am thinking I should have put in that I wanted to testify via zoom meeting but too late to change it.I give u props for submitting test if it goes against the boss.
I emailed my representatives and Roves, don't think he will be too happy about whats in my email.
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Post by: Glasser on February 09, 2021, 08:05:40 AM
"Hawaii has a ban on private citizens from purchasing aerial fireworks and anyone living here doesnt have to look back more than 2 months to see how it is not only completely ignored and unenforced, but has created an enormous rampant black market making criminals willing to break the law very rich in the process and the amount of that contraband entering the state increase every year. "
Post by: QUIETShooter on February 09, 2021, 08:59:33 AM
I was trying to think of real world examples to reach these idiots. This is the best I could come up with
"Hawaii has a ban on private citizens from purchasing aerial fireworks and anyone living here doesnt have to look back more than 2 months to see how it is not only completely ignored and unenforced, but has created an enormous rampant black market making criminals willing to break the law very rich in the process and the amount of that contraband entering the state increase every year. "
Great example and am glad you submitted it as such. :thumbsup:
Post by: astroboy on February 09, 2021, 09:39:20 AM
Great example and am glad you submitted it as such. :thumbsup:
I am glad that others can clearly see the end result of bad legislation. The entire market for the banned fire arms will be given to the black market on a silver platter. The guns will be: Unlicensed, Unserialised, Untaxed (Federal and State), Unregistered, Untraceable, and Uncontrolled. The best selling rifle in the USA will be banned and the black market will love it.
I also mentioned in my testimony that the criminals will love the fact that a large number of the population will be disarmed. It will be much safer for them to assault people and invade their homes. Criminals are also targeting senior citizens since they appear to be easier targets.
As a senior citizen I may have to carry a fire arm in my own home. How can this be a good thing?
Post by: Ditchhanger on February 09, 2021, 09:41:28 AM
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 09, 2021, 12:06:49 PM
I was trying to think of real world examples to reach these idiots. This is the best I could come up with
"Hawaii has a ban on private citizens from purchasing aerial fireworks and anyone living here doesnt have to look back more than 2 months to see how it is not only completely ignored and unenforced, but has created an enormous rampant black market making criminals willing to break the law very rich in the process and the amount of that contraband entering the state increase every year. "
When Tyke got loose, HPD didn't have the firepower to stop him. They had to call local big game hunters. IDK if elephant guns are larger than 50 cal though.
Post by: QUIETShooter on February 09, 2021, 01:15:06 PM
Bullshit. They just hate guns. They just irrationally hate guns. It's like TDS. Hate and fear.
For the liberals, the "freedoms" that they want to have all citizens enjoy starts with taking away the very means that keep Americans truly free (the 2a and the right to bear arms).
Without this right, the liberals will be able to "tell" us what "freedoms" to enjoy and also disregard the accountability of serving the people of this Nation for which they have sworn in oath to do.
Post by: QUIETShooter on February 09, 2021, 02:00:08 PM
I am glad that others can clearly see the end result of bad legislation. The entire market for the banned fire arms will be given to the black market on a silver platter. The guns will be: Unlicensed, Unserialised, Untaxed (Federal and State), Unregistered, Untraceable, and Uncontrolled. The best selling rifle in the USA will be banned and the black market will love it.
I also mentioned in my testimony that the criminals will love the fact that a large number of the population will be disarmed. It will be much safer for them to assault people and invade their homes. Criminals are also targeting senior citizens since they appear to be easier targets.
As a senior citizen I may have to carry a fire arm in my own home. How can this be a good thing?
Yeah, as a senior citizen and in light of what happened recently to that elderly couple I have been re-evaluating my home defense plans. Not much I can do if my wife and I are out and about though.
I guess I could carry small cash and a low-limit credit card in my "robbery" wallet and keep my real wallet up my ass or something..... :rofl:
Post by: macsak on February 09, 2021, 10:45:25 PM
Yeah, as a senior citizen and in light of what happened recently to that elderly couple I have been re-evaluating my home defense plans. Not much I can do if my wife and I are out and about though.
I guess I could carry small cash and a low-limit credit card in my "robbery" wallet and keep my real wallet up my ass or something..... :rofl:
which elderly couple?
Post by: zippz on February 09, 2021, 10:52:20 PM
Yeah, as a senior citizen and in light of what happened recently to that elderly couple I have been re-evaluating my home defense plans. Not much I can do if my wife and I are out and about though.
I guess I could carry small cash and a low-limit credit card in my "robbery" wallet and keep my real wallet up my ass or something..... :rofl:
We need seniors to zoom testimony. Testify it's easier for you to use rifles for self-defense. Why CCW and stand your ground is needed.
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 10, 2021, 09:46:43 AM
Yeah, as a senior citizen and in light of what happened recently to that elderly couple I have been re-evaluating my home defense plans. Not much I can do if my wife and I are out and about though.
I guess I could carry small cash and a low-limit credit card in my "robbery" wallet and keep my real wallet up my ass or something..... :rofl:
I know guys who always have a handgun in arms reach. So no need to holster, but they do take it to the toilet, kitchen, living room etc...So it's always in their control.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on February 10, 2021, 10:22:16 AM
Because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whooping.
Post by: astroboy on February 11, 2021, 09:03:01 AM
https://youtu.be/IDS7f1M4_eM
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 11, 2021, 09:18:20 AM
Post by: groveler on February 11, 2021, 09:56:13 AM
News from island nation of New Zealand: criminals did not turn in prohibited fire armsI would expect complete compliance from everyone that has registered their guns.
https://youtu.be/IDS7f1M4_eM
So then only criminals will have guns.
Some how being called a criminal doesn't seem so bad now does it?
Once everything is a crime, it kind of takes the edge off it.
Post by: Boomah on February 11, 2021, 10:53:50 AM
And regarding that call... The clerk I spoke with stated (paraphrasing here) they have over 300 testimonials this time so it should pass :wtf: Fingers crossed we'll win this one...
Post by: Bota-CS1 on February 11, 2021, 12:18:07 PM
Submitted and even called, though it seemed odd called Rhoads office to ask that he oppose the bill he introduced :grrr:
And regarding that call... The clerk I spoke with stated (paraphrasing here) they have over 300 testimonials this time so it should pass :wtf: Fingers crossed we'll win this one...
Psy-ops. Voter suppression...I mean testimony suppression.
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 11, 2021, 01:05:40 PM
Submitted and even called, though it seemed odd called Rhoads office to ask that he oppose the bill he introduced :grrr:
And regarding that call... The clerk I spoke with stated (paraphrasing here) they have over 300 testimonials this time so it should pass :wtf: Fingers crossed we'll win this one...
Clerk isn't wrong. HIFICO submitted about 600 oppose. Not sure how many are via capitol website.
Post by: aaronc5362 on February 11, 2021, 01:13:26 PM
I googled it and it mentioned pistol grip, and telescoping stock in california. Specifically talking bout ar15s.
Safe to assume its the same here?
Post by: ren on February 11, 2021, 01:33:59 PM
Post by: macsak on February 11, 2021, 01:39:36 PM
Just curious, what is a bad feature in the eyes of hawaii legislature?
I googled it and it mentioned pistol grip, and telescoping stock in california. Specifically talking bout ar15s.
Safe to assume its the same here?
most of these bills are straight off of mom's demand action and everytown for gun safety...
Post by: aletheuo137 on February 11, 2021, 04:28:04 PM
Clerk isn't wrong. HIFICO submitted about 600 oppose. Not sure how many are via capitol website.They might be using those dominion machines.
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Post by: 2aAcc on February 21, 2021, 03:21:50 AM
Rhoads and these other Soros funded scum are traitors, guilty of treason and other federal crimes who have illegally set forth edicts that say Hawaii citizens cannot change, stop or create laws, in violation of the 1A. No letters, testimony or thinking you can vote anymore will change this. They will pass these illegal edicts because Biden recently forced out the honest DOJ staff that busted the local organized crime led by H.P.D. - Kealohas, prosecutor's office and Miske (But they never touched the judicary or Roger Lau of the pros. office.) Write them a heartfelt letter referencing constitutional law, legal precedent and logic detailing how what they are doing is illegal. They need the laugh.
The police are (REDACTED so I don't offend bootlickers). They will gladly violate your human rights for a paycheck and the ability to be the "chosen ones" to be armed and you disarmed. You will see how much this matters when the crime rate spikes and you get arrested, your property confiscated - including estates, and your children taken for being "potentially violent" which is a term used by HPD in court against low income/resource defendant/victims. Look into the connections between your "representatives" and real estate hustlers.
These same "politicians" tried the mag cap ban last time with exemptions for the "film industry members". Why? The Kealohas (HPD) and prosecutor's office were using film industry union crews as "capos" for organized crime for the past 30 years. From "hitman" murderer Ronald Ching to the Miske enterprise, they all were selectively employed by the film industry union to chauffer celebrities and provide "recreation" so local politicos can get out of the local system of corruption. These same scum tried to make it so only our totally not corrupt to the core police and organized crime shooters would have access to semi autos and mags over 5 rounds. Your "voice" and "votes" didn't stop this, an honest local DOJ of Kenji Price and many others did, cracking down on almost a century of corruption.
Post by: groveler on February 21, 2021, 04:28:58 AM
Mag caps under the 9th circuit are ILLEGAL. Also Murphy V CNMI (https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/mariana-islands/nmidce/1:2014cv00026/4687/109/) says "assault weppin" bans are ILLEGAL. Gun registration is ILLEGAL under federal and constitutional law. Some mod here tried to run a line on me saying FOPA didn't cover Hawaii's illegal registration requirements, but that is not what that law says, nor the constitution, which prohibits registries especially of any exercise of constitutionally protected rights. I guess someone wants to stay on the "good" side of HPD's "Secret police" units. (As referenced by federal prosecutors in the Kealoha case.)I once commuted to work with the ex-police chief of Hawaii county.
Rhoads and these other Soros funded scum are traitors, guilty of treason and other federal crimes who have illegally set forth edicts that say Hawaii citizens cannot change, stop or create laws, in violation of the 1A. No letters, testimony or thinking you can vote anymore will change this. They will pass these illegal edicts because Biden recently forced out the honest DOJ staff that busted the local organized crime led by H.P.D. - Kealohas, prosecutor's office and Miske (But they never touched the judicary or Roger Lau of the pros. office.) Write them a heartfelt letter referencing constitutional law, legal precedent and logic detailing how what they are doing is illegal. They need the laugh.
The police are (REDACTED so I don't offend bootlickers). They will gladly violate your human rights for a paycheck and the ability to be the "chosen ones" to be armed and you disarmed. You will see how much this matters when the crime rate spikes and you get arrested, your property confiscated - including estates, and your children taken for being "potentially violent" which is a term used by HPD in court against low income/resource defendant/victims. Look into the connections between your "representatives" and real estate hustlers.
These same "politicians" tried the mag cap ban last time with exemptions for the "film industry members". Why? The Kealohas (HPD) and prosecutor's office were using film industry union crews as "capos" for organized crime for the past 30 years. From "hitman" murderer Ronald Ching to the Miske enterprise, they all were selectively employed by the film industry union to chauffer celebrities and provide "recreation" so local politicos can get out of the local system of corruption. These same scum tried to make it so only our totally not corrupt to the core police and organized crime shooters would have access to semi autos and mags over 5 rounds. Your "voice" and "votes" didn't stop this, an honest local DOJ of Kenji Price and many others did, cracking down on almost a century of corruption.
He had been fired for corruption and was working for a temp company
as a janitor, obviously not a very good corrupt cop, or he owned the company.
He said "register all your guns, but when you get your confiscation letter,
claim you got drunk and lost them all in a poker game".
Apparently that is more believable to the cops than losing them while fishing.
Prepare for the worst my 2A brothers.
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 21, 2021, 10:21:56 AM
I once commuted to work with the ex-police chief of Hawaii county.Lost firearms must be reported within 24 hrs. So 23 hrs 50 mins g2g
He had been fired for corruption and was working for a temp company
as a janitor, obviously not a very good corrupt cop, or he owned the company.
He said "register all your guns, but when you get your confiscation letter,
claim you got drunk and lost them all in a poker game".
Apparently that is more believable to the cops than losing them while fishing.
Prepare for the worst my 2A brothers.
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Post by: Kuleana on February 21, 2021, 10:51:34 AM
The police are (REDACTED so I don't offend bootlickers). They will gladly violate your human rights for a paycheck and the ability to be the "chosen ones" to be armed and you disarmed. You will see how much this matters when the crime rate spikes and you get arrested, your property confiscated - including estates, and your children taken for being "potentially violent" which is a term used by HPD in court against low income/resource defendant/victims.Very insightful post.
Just as the Milgram Studies in obedience revealed back in 1963, there is no reason to doubt that the majority of cops and the military will follow orders of authority, regardless of their own personal, moral, or even legal beliefs, in committing acts contrary to domestic, foreign, or international laws. Although having cops and a standing military is not entirely a bad thing, no one should have any illusion that they will not violate anyone's human rights, if ordered to do so.
In America, the current purge of American patriots, from the justice system and the armed forces, is indicative of the US empire's push to have the "right people" in those institutions, in order to limit conscientious objector holdovers that are still loyal to the laws of the former American Republic, its treaties, as well as international law.
Post by: QUIETShooter on February 21, 2021, 11:03:24 AM
which elderly couple?
I missed this sorry for the late response. I was referring to that elderly couple that got robbed while going to Aloha Swap Meet to sell their jewelry.
It just made me start thinking about home defense plans since my wife and I are home alone most of the time.
Post by: 6716J on February 22, 2021, 09:11:52 AM
Mag caps under the 9th circuit are ILLEGAL. Also Murphy V CNMI (https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/mariana-islands/nmidce/1:2014cv00026/4687/109/) says "assault weppin" bans are ILLEGAL. Gun registration is ILLEGAL under federal and constitutional law. Some mod here tried to run a line on me saying FOPA didn't cover Hawaii's illegal registration requirements, but that is not what that law says, nor the constitution, which prohibits registries especially of any exercise of constitutionally protected rights. I guess someone wants to stay on the "good" side of HPD's "Secret police" units. (As referenced by federal prosecutors in the Kealoha case.)
...
Good read on Murphy v CNMI. Good arguments for here in Hawaii on registration and carry but the upholding of the LCM ban doesn't sit well.