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Title: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: omnigun on April 20, 2021, 11:08:49 AM
Appeal soon.tm

Unfortunate,  I think the Jury got affected by the democrats rhetoric's.  Its almost certain that he will appeal with Maxine Waters threatening the jury.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 20, 2021, 11:10:52 AM
Appeal soon.tm

Unfortunate,  I think the Jury got effected by the democrat rhetoric's.

Have you considered hiring an editor?
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 20, 2021, 11:46:35 AM
Hahaha people think Maxine Waters tainted the jury? How about the sitting POTUS Joe Biden getting used as a sock puppet by Obama and this morning saying that Chauvin was obviously Guilty? Impossible to get a fair verdict. That has to be THE dumbest stunt in American politics in my lifetime.

Alll these Dem morons guarantee this gets appealed/ overturned.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: groveler on April 20, 2021, 11:49:11 AM
I don't like cops, but they are a necessary evil.
I've personally seen cops beat the hell out of handcuffed
people, so, no surprises there.
This trial was politicized and there is no way that guy could get
a fair trial.
All people deserve the presumption of innocence without
the worry of the "mob" rioting and personal threats to their jury.

So the result is, if the Blacks throw a fit, we appease them.

No white guy in America will become a cop from here on out.
The ones that do, should not be cops, as they have mental issues.

Overly aggressive cops need to be purged from the ranks, or all
police will go down.

Aloha.







Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: omnigun on April 20, 2021, 12:32:21 PM
Its not about race, its about not being a criminal druggy and resist arrest.  If the same thing happened to a white man, I would think the same outcome.  As I don't judge what happened on the color of his skin, but the actions that he did.   He was a criminal, he resisted arrest, he died from a drug overdose complication.  That's the fairness this trial deserves, isn't that what everyone wants?  But instead we get race baiting and over exaggeration of the color of his skin. 
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: ren on April 20, 2021, 12:40:10 PM
Its not about race, its about not being a criminal druggy and resist arrest.  If the same thing happened to a white man, I would think the same outcome.  As I don't judge what happened on the color of his skin, but the actions that he did.   He was a criminal, he resisted arrest, he died from a drug overdose complication.  That's the fairness this trial deserves, isn't that what everyone wants?  But instead we get race baiting and over exaggeration of the color of his skin.

I agree. :thumbsup:
I was watching the news coverage and saw a flag with 13 stripes like the US flag but instead of 50 stars it was replaced with "Black Lives Matter" If it was really about transcending race it should have read "Justice Matters" but it was disgusting that the US flag was represented that way.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: ren on April 20, 2021, 12:40:42 PM
and I saw a black male riding a bike with a helmet on...
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 20, 2021, 01:35:16 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1384626733991620610


Democrat Nancy Pelosi thanks George Floyd for being killed



Dems are human garbage
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 20, 2021, 02:02:07 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1384626733991620610


Democrat Nancy Pelosi thanks George Floyd for being killed



Dems are human garbage

If only more Democrats were as brave as George Floyd -- willing to sacrifice themselves for social justice.   :thumbsup: :geekdanc: :worship:
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: ren on April 20, 2021, 02:14:04 PM
all those protestors in close proximity some wearing masks, some not...if they were in Hawaii
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: QUIETShooter on April 20, 2021, 02:21:14 PM
Democrats are shameless.  nancy pelau-see, maxine waters and biden lead the way.

If one can't see that those in power will do anything and everything to affect their agenda, then it must mean it is compliance to their actions. 

A very sad realization to those of us who treasured freedom, independence, responsibility and accountability.  It's apparent the demokrats have convoluted the meanings of these sacred words.

The country will no longer be the same with these insane criminals leading the way.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: QUIETShooter on April 20, 2021, 02:26:46 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1384626733991620610


Democrat Nancy Pelosi thanks George Floyd for being killed



Dems are human garbage

I don't think we can use this word to describe them anymore.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: punaperson on April 20, 2021, 06:35:47 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1384626733991620610


Democrat Nancy Pelosi thanks George Floyd for being killed



Dems are human garbage

I don't think we can use this word to describe them anymore.

Dems are human garbage
I don't think we can use this word to describe them anymore.

Dems are human jackal garbage fecal matter.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: hvybarrels on April 20, 2021, 10:42:23 PM
The real issue of this trial is that it was influenced by angry mobs and evil politicians who threatened to burn the city down if they did not get the result they wanted. When you compare it to Ashli Babbitt it is clear that our justice system is broken and results are not based on merit but what color your skin is and what party you are affiliated with. In other words there is no justice system any more.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: hvybarrels on April 20, 2021, 11:41:55 PM
“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”

They are laughing at us

https://youtu.be/4RHg0f5Nq4c
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 21, 2021, 06:56:45 AM
“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”

They are laughing at us

https://youtu.be/4RHg0f5Nq4c

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ezgmd7qWQAIw6AI?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: punaperson on April 21, 2021, 07:12:51 AM
“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”

They are laughing at us
They are ROF laughing at us.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 21, 2021, 07:13:13 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzgzN33WUAYAe6c?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: omnigun on April 21, 2021, 07:19:57 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzgzN33WUAYAe6c?format=png&name=small)
]

Communities are not being terrorized other than by BLM rioters. 
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: 6716J on April 21, 2021, 07:27:43 AM
(https://i.imgflip.com/56laew.jpg)
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 21, 2021, 07:35:59 AM
Enjoy becoming another crime riddled violent Dem city. They are going to hemorrhage officers like crazy starting now.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/doj-launches-civil-investigation-into-minneapolis-policing-after-chauvin-conviction_3785446.html

DOJ Launches Civil Investigation into Minneapolis Policing after Chauvin Conviction

The investigation will determine whether the Minneapolis Police Department (MPD) engages in “a pattern or practice of unconstitutional or unlawful policing,” Garland said during a press conference.

Attorneys and other personnel from the DOJ’s Civil Rights Division and U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Minnesota will join the investigation.

According to the DOJ, the scope of the investigation includes whether MPD engages in a pattern or practice of using excessive force, including during protests, whether the MPD engages in discriminatory conduct, and whether MPD’s treatment of those with behavioral health disabilities is unlawful.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: ren on April 21, 2021, 08:04:19 AM
they are turning criminal acts into movements
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-makhia-bryant-shooting-bodycam-footage-knife (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-makhia-bryant-shooting-bodycam-footage-knife)

What if the officers didn't respond at all?
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 21, 2021, 08:13:17 AM
they are turning criminal acts into movements
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-makhia-bryant-shooting-bodycam-footage-knife (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-makhia-bryant-shooting-bodycam-footage-knife)

What if the officers didn't respond at all?

That is THE great irony of all of this, who is calling the Cops to intervene in all these events? Whites? Why arent Obama and the BLM people telling Black folks to stop calling the police on each other so they can end up dead by each others hands instead of at the hands of Racists dressed in Blue? that is what they want isnt it?
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 21, 2021, 08:41:55 AM
Rasmussen poll today.


"How concerned are you that the growing criticism of America's police will lead to a shortage of police officers and reduce public safety in the community where you live?"

1000 National Adults - Concerned
Very - 37%
Somewhat - 26%
Not very - 19%
Not at all - 10%
Not sure - 7%
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: QUIETShooter on April 21, 2021, 09:06:23 AM
America's best will not apply to be police officers.

The ones who will apply will be the ones that shouldn't apply, lol!  Bet they get hired.....


Maybe just hire all black police officers.  When they respond to black violent incidents, they can work it out.  Or not.  Wonder how the MSM will cover this.

And when they respond to white incidents the f*kn MSM won't cover it anyway.

May sound racist but like Stang mentioned in the other thread, everything is racist nowadays.

And in my opinion it's all because of that damn BLM movement.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: macsak on April 21, 2021, 09:14:08 AM
i'm betting a lot of officers are "sick" today in Minnesota and all around the country
i see hundreds, if not thousands of officers all over the US quitting before the summer...

Rasmussen poll today.


"How concerned are you that the growing criticism of America's police will lead to a shortage of police officers and reduce public safety in the community where you live?"

1000 National Adults - Concerned
Very - 37%
Somewhat - 26%
Not very - 19%
Not at all - 10%
Not sure - 7%
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: QUIETShooter on April 21, 2021, 09:22:01 AM
(https://i.imgflip.com/56laew.jpg)

In almost every incident about black injustice in the hands of police it was because they simply resisted when all they had to do was comply.

Justice is served in the court of law, seldom out in the field. 

And in almost every incident the black person was doing something unlawful.  Which is probably why they resisted. 

Oh well, stupid is what stupid does.

Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: macsak on April 21, 2021, 10:10:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1JbzX8iMds
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: aletheuo137 on April 21, 2021, 11:42:06 AM
BREAKING

Randy Quaid Just Came Up With a Great Way For Biden and Harris to “Honor” George Floyd –


https://conservativesarmy.com/randy-quaid-just-came-up-with-a-great-way-for-biden-and-harris-to-honor-george-floyd/

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Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 21, 2021, 12:49:34 PM
Here's my take.  Chauv should def not be charged for murder 2.  But the other charge fits of manslaughter.

Once someone is cuffed, they are now in the custody and control of the officer. So if they slip and crack their head on the side walk, the officer is responsible.  Due to the fact that their arms are cuffed behind their back and it's harder to walk and cannot brace for a fall.  A while ago, had 1 guy die in the back of a cop meat wagon.  The cops failed to restrain him properly in the van properly and he ended up breaking his neck when the van hit a pot hole or something.  Again custody and control=PD's responsible.

So Floyd was cuffed and on his stomach.  That is a very difficult position to get up off the ground from or try and do anything bad.  So with Chauv on top of him, he is responsible for Floyd.  Chauv messed up plain and simple. There was no racial motivation.  TBH, I'm sure this isn't the 1st time Chauv used the same technique, and at most the guy on the ground passes out.  Then wakes up and that's it. "Hey man, you ok?  You passed out".

Now Floyd could have avoided this entire situation if he wasn't tripping balls and writing bad checks.  So actions have consequences.

Let's compare this accident to the other MN cop who's from Somalia and shot and killed the girl in her driveway.  She was not armed nor arguing.  She died and he only got 5 years.  His instructors at the academy felt he wasn't going to be a good cop, but told to pass him due to his race and immigration status.

With all the public and pressure from politicians, I don't think Chauv got a fair trial at all.  The fact that they found him guilty of all those charges is BS too.  His atty better appeal.

The media and DS played the public who are crying foul for suckers like how they always do. How much money did BLM make off of Floyd?  White guy dies in a simular manner and the cops are even laughing at him and no protest in the streets.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 21, 2021, 02:01:17 PM
Yup, Chicago with it bakers dozen of shootings per week needs even less law enforcement.

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot is considering requiring police officers to get a supervisor’s permission before beginning a foot chase, says she’ll announce new policy “soon” - WFLD
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: drck1000 on April 21, 2021, 02:10:33 PM
Yup, Chicago with it bakers dozen of shootings per week needs even less law enforcement.

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot is considering requiring police officers to get a supervisor’s permission before beginning a foot chase, says she’ll announce new policy “soon” - WFLD

Just when you think she couldn't say anything dumber. . .

Maybe she's been talking to Ige. . .
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 21, 2021, 02:39:14 PM
Yup, Chicago with it bakers dozen of shootings per week needs even less law enforcement.

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot is considering requiring police officers to get a supervisor’s permission before beginning a foot chase, says she’ll announce new policy “soon” - WFLD


You remember the Clint Eastwood, Jeff Bridges movie Thunderbolt and Lightfoot?

Lightfoot was Bridges' character -- immature, stupid loudmouth who died because he showed really poor judgement (kept hassling George Kennedy).

Seems like the name suits her, too.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 21, 2021, 03:53:14 PM
Hmm, so what about this one LeBron?

Cincinnati police say a 13-year-old girl has been charged with murder in the stabbing death of another 13-year-old girl.



https://mobile.twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1385037756540329989
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: omnigun on April 21, 2021, 04:30:26 PM
I wonder if LeBron will be sued.  Its clear defamation of character lawsuit right there.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 21, 2021, 06:58:41 PM
The local chick who rubbed Dems faces in how badly the ruined Baltimore when they went after Trump for saying exactly that, takes it to the hoop on LeBron.

Kim Klacik JUST DUNKED on Lebron James “Please Read a Book – The System in Place was Created by the Very Guy you Supported in the Presidential Election”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/face-kim-klacik-just-dunked-lebron-james-please-read-book/

Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 22, 2021, 09:13:15 AM
The local chick who rubbed Dems faces in how badly the ruined Baltimore when they went after Trump for saying exactly that, takes it to the hoop on LeBron.

Kim Klacik JUST DUNKED on Lebron James “Please Read a Book – The System in Place was Created by the Very Guy you Supported in the Presidential Election”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/face-kim-klacik-just-dunked-lebron-james-please-read-book/

Don't forget he obeys Master Xi.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 22, 2021, 12:30:19 PM
Ok, now I am really confused, this doesn't sound like Defunding at all.

CPD accepting applications for new recruits, earn $70k after 18 months


https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/cpd-accepting-applications-for-new-recruits-earn-70k-after-18-months

This has to be some kind of honey pot to put Racists in prison for Murder.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: macsak on April 22, 2021, 01:09:32 PM
I wonder if LeBron will be sued.  Its clear defamation of character lawsuit right there.

please show how it is clear defamation of character...
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 22, 2021, 01:21:46 PM
Hmm tired of working in a anti-LEO communist shithole? Come be a police in Spokane, we will throw you a $15K bonus to work for us.


SCSO has launched a series of billboards in Portland, Seattle, and Denver that advertise a hefty bonus for sufficiently experienced officers.

"We put up billboards in Portland as close to the police precincts as we could get, saying '15 thousand dollar signing bonus. We're hiring 40 lateral deputies. We want you,'" said Sheriff Ozzie Knezovich.



https://www.krem.com/amp/article/news/local/spokane-sheriff-targets-major-western-cities-with-recruiting-billboards/293-23150573-adad-4975-b3cc-670f771f569e?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 22, 2021, 01:28:22 PM
Another shinning example of a Dem run city.

PHILADELPHIA POLICE SHORTAGE DEVELOPING INTO VERY REAL CONCERN, FOP PRESIDENT SAYS


https://6abc.com/amp/philadelphia-police-new-recruits-fop-president-john-mcnesby-need-for-officers/10528861/?__twitter_impression=true

Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 22, 2021, 01:35:44 PM
Waiting for the first city to wake up and order police to carry video cameras instead of guns.  That way, they can record what happens on the call for social workers, judges and social media mobs to based their judgements on.

Let the crimes happen, and document it.  That way, the Cops can't be accused of anything -- other than refusing to get in the middle of the situation.

If the public complains, tell them, "We decided that if two people are fighting, and one of them dies, it's no different numerically than police intervening and shooting the assailant.  If two are engaged in a knife fight, nobody is innocent.  We'll let the law of the jungle decide who lives or dies.  We can later decide from the recorded evidence who is at fault -- the same evidentiary standard Cops are being convicted with today."
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: drck1000 on April 22, 2021, 01:38:38 PM
Hmm tired of working in a anti-LEO communist shithole? Come be a police in Spokane, we will throw you a $15K bonus to work for us.


SCSO has launched a series of billboards in Portland, Seattle, and Denver that advertise a hefty bonus for sufficiently experienced officers.

"We put up billboards in Portland as close to the police precincts as we could get, saying '15 thousand dollar signing bonus. We're hiring 40 lateral deputies. We want you,'" said Sheriff Ozzie Knezovich.


https://www.krem.com/amp/article/news/local/spokane-sheriff-targets-major-western-cities-with-recruiting-billboards/293-23150573-adad-4975-b3cc-670f771f569e?__twitter_impression=true

That was happening back 15-20 years ago.  Seattle and other PNW counties were paying good money for officers to "join them".  Many were coming from Hawaii.  Not sure if Spokane was part of the mix, but there were definitely some eastern WA counties that were doing this.  I think Pasco and another in the "dry shitties" (Tri Cities).
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 22, 2021, 01:42:56 PM
Waiting for the first city to wake up and order police to carry video cameras instead of guns.  That way, they can record what happens on the call for social workers, judges and social media mobs to based their judgements on.

Let the crimes happen, and document it.  That way, the Cops can't be accused of anything -- other than refusing to get in the middle of the situation.

If the public complains, tell them, "We decided that if two people are fighting, and one of them dies, it's no different numerically than police intervening and shooting the assailant.  If two are engaged in a knife fight, nobody is innocent.  We'll let the law of the jungle decide who lives or dies.  We can later decide from the recorded evidence who is at fault -- the same evidentiary standard Cops are being convicted with today."

I was thinking along those same lines yesterday, the unions should tell the officers not to physically intervene, record the incident, collect evidence and witness testimonies and then drop it all off at the door of the anti-LEO, No Bail Release, Soros Funded Prosecutors and DAs. Make them issue the arrest warrants (or not) and they can explain to the families of the victims and the families of the criminals which of them is more important to keep happy and how their idea of a communist utopia dispenses social justice
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 22, 2021, 01:45:19 PM
That was happening back 15-20 years ago.  Seattle and other PNW counties were paying good money for officers to "join them".  Many were coming from Hawaii.  Not sure if Spokane was part of the mix, but there were definitely some eastern WA counties that were doing this.  I think Pasco and another in the "dry shitties" (Tri Cities).

I know one cop who went to the mainland from here chasing those dollars, he tapped out in less than a year. He said the stuff mainland Cops have to deal with isn't worth the bump by a LONG shot.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: drck1000 on April 22, 2021, 01:50:50 PM
I know one cop who went to the mainland from here chasing those dollars, he tapped out in less than a year. He said the stuff mainland Cops have to deal with isn't worth the bump by a LONG shot.
I heard of one Hawaii guy that joined Tacoma PD that was similar to your story/example.  Areas of Tacoma, at least back in the late 90s and early 2000s, was just as bad or worse that areas like Compton.   :o

I would think many areas in eastern WA could be pretty cruise/rural. 
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 22, 2021, 03:20:44 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzntymAXEAMDKxN?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 22, 2021, 03:23:15 PM
In new video, Makhia Bryant can be heard screaming “I’m gonna stab the fuck out of you, bitch,” while lunging at two unarmed people who were posing no imminent physical threat to her
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 22, 2021, 05:38:10 PM
Alternate Juror spills on the others....

‘I Didn’t Want to Go Through the Rioting’: Juror in Chauvin Trial Makes Stunning Admission over ‘Guilty’ Verdict



Good job Maxine.



https://beckernews.com/i-didnt-want-to-go-through-the-rioting-juror-in-chauvin-trial-makes-stunning-admission-over-guilty-verdict-38729/

Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: omnigun on April 22, 2021, 09:56:25 PM
Alternate Juror spills on the others....

‘I Didn’t Want to Go Through the Rioting’: Juror in Chauvin Trial Makes Stunning Admission over ‘Guilty’ Verdict



Good job Maxine.



https://beckernews.com/i-didnt-want-to-go-through-the-rioting-juror-in-chauvin-trial-makes-stunning-admission-over-guilty-verdict-38729/

This is a perfect example of Maxines idiocy.  Good news for chauvin though,  he will appeal.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: QUIETShooter on April 23, 2021, 06:20:11 AM
Alternate Juror spills on the others....

‘I Didn’t Want to Go Through the Rioting’: Juror in Chauvin Trial Makes Stunning Admission over ‘Guilty’ Verdict



Good job Maxine.



https://beckernews.com/i-didnt-want-to-go-through-the-rioting-juror-in-chauvin-trial-makes-stunning-admission-over-guilty-verdict-38729/

Stupid people just don't know when to shut the f*ck up.

Good job Maxine (of showing people how stupid you are......)
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 23, 2021, 11:24:26 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/d-c-cops-snap-back-shocks-heckler-asked-yall-gonna-kill-like-makhia-bryant-video/

D.C. Cop’s Snap Back Shocks Heckler Who Asked, “Are Y’All Gonna Kill Me Like Ma’Khia Bryant?”


Heckler, “Are, y’all gonna kill me like Ma’Khia Bryant? F*ck”

Officer, “Are you gonna stab somebody like her?



Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on April 24, 2021, 11:48:15 AM
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/24/majority-black-americans-say-politics-somewhat-influenced-derek-chauvin-verdict/


Majority of Black Americans Say Politics at Least ‘Somewhat’ Influenced Derek Chauvin Verdict


57 percent of black Americans said politics influenced the decision to some degree, 36 percent saying “a lot” and 21 percent saying “somewhat.”



Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: eyeeatingfish on April 24, 2021, 08:58:30 PM
I am not entirely surprised by the verdict but I think they made the wrong choice. Derek Chauvin was definitely guilty of something but not murder. Maybe manslaughter but I am leaning towards some other type of civil rights violation. When a cop takes someone into custody they are now responsible for them and that he where he screwed up.

I don't know how the prosecution could argue that the knee played a substantial role in Chauvin's death. Given the drug use, his medical conditions, and his level of excitement, I don't know that we could solidly say the knee [;ayed a significant role. He very well could have died without a knee on his back too. If we can't know this then it would seem reasonable doubt to me.

I am curious to watch the appeal as there are a number of things his lawyer can bring up. The failure to pick a different venue, the failure to sequester the jury, the comments by that idiot Maxine Waters, etc.

I do think the lawyer should have done an experiment to try and replicate the incident. Have someone Floyd's size/age lay on the ground and have someone Chauvin's weight lean on him for an extended period of time. Meanwhile monitor the heartrate, breathing, and oxygen levels to see if that would have compromised his breathing. I have heard of studies similar to that before too.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: aletheuo137 on April 26, 2021, 05:50:13 AM
WATCH: Cops Mock LeBron over ‘YOU’RE NEXT’ Tweet

https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2021/04/26/watch-cops-mock-lebron-over-youre-next-tweet/

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Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: eyeeatingfish on April 26, 2021, 08:44:33 PM
I heard of one Hawaii guy that joined Tacoma PD that was similar to your story/example.  Areas of Tacoma, at least back in the late 90s and early 2000s, was just as bad or worse that areas like Compton.   :o

I would think many areas in eastern WA could be pretty cruise/rural.

My dad retired from a Spokane police department and I have visited that area many times. Nice are, medium size city, more conservative politics. Got some white supremacist groups in that area, including Idaho and Montana but not a big issue for cops as I understood it. Different problems there than Hawaii. I could see living up there if I had to leave Hawaii but not much in the way of asian food.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on May 02, 2021, 03:41:56 PM
Nice way to help get a verdict overturned. These people arent too bright.


BLM Activist Sat on the Chauvin Jury After Claiming He Could Be ‘Impartial’, Tells People to Get on Juries to ‘Spark Change’

Minneapolis’ FOX 9 reporter Paul Blume reported in March that “Judge Cahill asked Juror #52, whether he heard anything about the #GeorgeFloyd civil case. He says, no. He explained hearing some basic info about trial dates, etc from the news in recent months, but nothing that would keep him from serving as impartial juror. #ChauvinTrial”

However, Mitchell was photographed last August wearing a shirt that read “Get your knee off our necks” and “BLM.”




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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/blm-activist-sat-chauvin-jury-claiming-impartial-tells-people-get-juries-spark-change/
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: omnigun on May 02, 2021, 06:49:10 PM
Nice way to help get a verdict overturned. These people arent too bright.


BLM Activist Sat on the Chauvin Jury After Claiming He Could Be ‘Impartial’, Tells People to Get on Juries to ‘Spark Change’

Minneapolis’ FOX 9 reporter Paul Blume reported in March that “Judge Cahill asked Juror #52, whether he heard anything about the #GeorgeFloyd civil case. He says, no. He explained hearing some basic info about trial dates, etc from the news in recent months, but nothing that would keep him from serving as impartial juror. #ChauvinTrial”

However, Mitchell was photographed last August wearing a shirt that read “Get your knee off our necks” and “BLM.”




(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/0-324.jpg)



https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/blm-activist-sat-chauvin-jury-claiming-impartial-tells-people-get-juries-spark-change/

At this point appeal is guaranteed,  but I wonder how/if he can even get a fair trail. 
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on May 03, 2021, 09:05:01 PM
Nice way to help get a verdict overturned. These people arent too bright.


BLM Activist Sat on the Chauvin Jury After Claiming He Could Be ‘Impartial’, Tells People to Get on Juries to ‘Spark Change’

Minneapolis’ FOX 9 reporter Paul Blume reported in March that “Judge Cahill asked Juror #52, whether he heard anything about the #GeorgeFloyd civil case. He says, no. He explained hearing some basic info about trial dates, etc from the news in recent months, but nothing that would keep him from serving as impartial juror. #ChauvinTrial”

However, Mitchell was photographed last August wearing a shirt that read “Get your knee off our necks” and “BLM.”




(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/0-324.jpg)



https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/blm-activist-sat-chauvin-jury-claiming-impartial-tells-people-get-juries-spark-change/

“A number of legal sources, including those familiar with the trial, told WCCO this juror at minimum will have to be questioned in what’s called a Schwartz hearing. And depending on his answers, a mistrial could be declared.”
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: aletheuo137 on May 04, 2021, 08:05:25 AM
VERDICT IN JEOPARDY? Chauvin Juror’s ‘BLM Shirt’ Raises Concerns Over Trial, Impartiality, Appeal

https://hannity.com/media-room/verdict-in-jeopardy-chauvin-jurors-blm-shirt-raises-concerns-over-trial-impartiality-appeal/

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Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: oldfart on May 04, 2021, 08:42:49 AM
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And of course you had the alternate juror interview saying that she feared for her safety if they voted to acquit.
SMH

Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: groveler on May 04, 2021, 09:56:23 AM
VERDICT IN JEOPARDY? Chauvin Juror’s ‘BLM Shirt’ Raises Concerns Over Trial, Impartiality, Appeal

https://hannity.com/media-room/verdict-in-jeopardy-chauvin-jurors-blm-shirt-raises-concerns-over-trial-impartiality-appeal/

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I long ago came to the conclusion that juries should only consist of older
engineers.  We have for years had our personal prejudices beat out of us
by "peer" reviews. Every decision I ever made was challenged by everybody
and I had to defend those decisions.  If I could not convince other engineers
with "facts and data",  I lost the argument.
Up front I'll restate that I don't like cops, they are a necessary evil, however
I don't think this cop received a fair trial, based purely on "Facts and Data" I have
read or seen.
He was convicted by a mob mentality.  That cheapens all of us, those that accept
this immorality and those that advocate that revenge is acceptable.
Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Glasser on May 04, 2021, 11:15:51 AM
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Title: Re: Derek Chauvin found guilty
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on May 04, 2021, 01:54:05 PM
I long ago came to the conclusion that juries should only consist of older
engineers.  We have for years had our personal prejudices beat out of us
by "peer" reviews. Every decision I ever made was challenged by everybody
and I had to defend those decisions.  If I could not convince other engineers
with "facts and data",  I lost the argument.
Up front I'll restate that I don't like cops, they are a necessary evil, however
I don't think this cop received a fair trial, based purely on "Facts and Data" I have
read or seen.
He was convicted by a mob mentality.  That cheapens all of us, those that accept
this immorality and those that advocate that revenge is acceptable.

From another angle, I think any Cop being tried for anything resembling a race-related situation should be automatically and immediately granted a change of venue. 

Having any authority figure such as a police officer judged by the local community is denying the inevitability that someone with malice based on the viral videos, MSM propagated race-baiting, and perhaps even personal experiences will wind up on that jury.

With the Social Media and MSM BS purveyors being like they are, I admit it'll be hard to find a totally unbiased jury anywhere.  But, at least you don't have someone on the jury who's afraid of having their own city burned down over a verdict some groups won't like.  The riots will be where the "crime" was committed, not likely where the trial was held.  The rioters would target the place that employed the cop.