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Title: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: ren on April 30, 2021, 08:42:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1449kJKxlMQ&t=31s

somewhat graphic. He is VERY fortunate
Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: stangzilla on April 30, 2021, 09:59:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1449kJKxlMQ&t=31s

somewhat graphic. He is VERY fortunate

wow.  lucky
Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 30, 2021, 09:59:48 AM
Rhodes would use this as an excuse to push his 50cal ban again.
Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: oldfart on April 30, 2021, 10:59:09 AM
You'll shoot yer eye out with that thang.
Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: hvybarrels on April 30, 2021, 11:31:18 AM
That is horrifying. Nice to know about that iphone emergency button though, in case your iphone is covered in blood and you cant dial 911
Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: stangzilla on April 30, 2021, 12:27:20 PM
what a story!
scary shit! 
Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: stangzilla on April 30, 2021, 12:39:41 PM
i like at the end he is already shooting a pistol   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: GlockNewb on April 30, 2021, 01:42:33 PM
https://youtu.be/71OGayW7CnI

Great hypothetical explanation of what likely occurred. Glad to hear that Scott is recovering
Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: QUIETShooter on April 30, 2021, 01:49:32 PM
Glad he was wearing eye protection.  He would have suffered permanent eye damage/blindness if he didn't.

That piece that ripped into his throat/chest was that close to killing him.  Lucky.  Very lucky.
Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: aletheuo137 on April 30, 2021, 02:13:17 PM
The Lord was watching over him that day!

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Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: eyeeatingfish on April 30, 2021, 08:06:55 PM
That video almost brought me to tears. Though he never really addressed it I was wondering if he is going to avoid those "Slap" rounds in the future? If it is a factory ammunition, even with age, should this have happened?

My other thought was wondering if there was a problem with the steel that made the threads on the cap not as strong as they should have been. Maybe a problem in the heat treating of the metal or a flaw in the steel itself from the steel factory.

But gosh, thank god for that training, that he knew to pack a wound like that.
Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: Tom_G on May 02, 2021, 05:22:58 PM
He's a little confused about what the jugular vein is there for. And stunningly fortunate!
Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 02, 2021, 05:33:46 PM
That video almost brought me to tears. Though he never really addressed it I was wondering if he is going to avoid those "Slap" rounds in the future? If it is a factory ammunition, even with age, should this have happened?

My other thought was wondering if there was a problem with the steel that made the threads on the cap not as strong as they should have been. Maybe a problem in the heat treating of the metal or a flaw in the steel itself from the steel factory.

But gosh, thank god for that training, that he knew to pack a wound like that.
Its not the threads. Its that this model has no other way to release any pressure, so kaboom straight back into the shooter is the only option.

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Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: stangzilla on May 02, 2021, 07:35:46 PM
He's a little confused about what the jugular vein is there for. And stunningly fortunate!

Yeah, I think he meant to say carotid artery. But I like the guy and his channel so I'll let him slide on the technicality
Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: Platinum808 on May 02, 2021, 08:03:35 PM
 This is why they banned them  :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: eyeeatingfish on May 03, 2021, 07:53:31 PM
Its not the threads. Its that this model has no other way to release any pressure, so kaboom straight back into the shooter is the only option.

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I watched two other videos which talked about possible problems.

The guy who does Forgotten weapons pointed out how it didn't have any pressure release port as well as didn't have any locking lugs. He suspected it came down to a barrel blockage of some type. He covered the history of some older guns and how later versions had locking lugs and other safety features.

Another guy pointed out that the SLAP rounds should not be shot out of guns with barrel breaks/flash hiders/compensators/etc unless specifically designed for that round. This made sense too but I don't know exactly how a sabot jacket works, maybe it could have hit the break wrong or something?

Either way it is pretty scary how much power that thing had that it could just shear threads like that.
Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: drck1000 on May 03, 2021, 09:01:35 PM
One lucky guy, and seems to be recovering quite quickly. Good that he can share the story.
Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: stangzilla on May 05, 2021, 01:05:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ardw09S7GfE
Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 11, 2021, 10:52:54 PM
Company released a vid. To cause the threads to fail, 85,000 is not sufficient. It takes 160,000.

Also slap round he used is not mil spec. No crimping and no indentations on the sabot.

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Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: eyeeatingfish on May 18, 2021, 09:04:00 PM
Company released a vid. To cause the threads to fail, 85,000 is not sufficient. It takes 160,000.

Also slap round he used is not mil spec. No crimping and no indentations on the sabot.

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Even if the numbers are accurate there are lots of variables. For example the steel could have been defective from the steel factory. It may have been improperly heated/heat treated.

Even if the slap round was way overloaded with powder something must have caused a barrel obstruction right? Otherwise the pressure would have taken the easy way out the barrel
Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 19, 2021, 08:49:58 AM
Even if the numbers are accurate there are lots of variables. For example the steel could have been defective from the steel factory. It may have been improperly heated/heat treated.

Even if the slap round was way overloaded with powder something must have caused a barrel obstruction right? Otherwise the pressure would have taken the easy way out the barrel

I think he went over that there was no barrel obstruction. The last slap round that was shot was found stuck inside the fire hydrant.  And the fireball from that round that was at the end of the barrel was bigger than normal (signs of a hotter load).  However, there was no mention of the ears that were ripped off.  He is sending the rifle back to Sebu and they will investigate.  Sebu made no mention either of the strength of the ears, just the threads and the amount of pressure it would take to blow off the cap.
Title: Re: 50 BMG Kaboom
Post by: eyeeatingfish on May 19, 2021, 09:41:08 PM
I think he went over that there was no barrel obstruction. The last slap round that was shot was found stuck inside the fire hydrant.  And the fireball from that round that was at the end of the barrel was bigger than normal (signs of a hotter load).  However, there was no mention of the ears that were ripped off.  He is sending the rifle back to Sebu and they will investigate.  Sebu made no mention either of the strength of the ears, just the threads and the amount of pressure it would take to blow off the cap.

If it gets litigated then all of that would come up. Serbu would try to blame the metal manufacturer and the bullet. The bullet maker would try to blame the gun, the metal manufacturer would blame the gun, etc. They would need to prove who was negligent and how much so.