Post by: ren on May 15, 2021, 07:26:16 AM
Post by: omnigun on May 15, 2021, 08:01:18 AM
Post by: aletheuo137 on May 15, 2021, 08:09:02 AM
We wouldn't have this stupid rail. We wouldn't have climate change....Nah, you should just stay home and wait for your government check
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Post by: QUIETShooter on May 15, 2021, 08:52:47 AM
And for one politician it was a catalyst to further his political career. And it blew up in his face. Ha ha. Poor thing. :rofl: :rofl:
In my opinion there were other options less expensive. Elevated via ducts dedicated for bus lanes. Extra lanes on those ducts for cars that pay monthly tolls.
But the powers to be chose rail. And an obsolete "steel wheels" design that is guaranteed to be costly to maintain.
Because it is destined to go nowhere significant (UH for example) only the homeless and panhandlers asking for spare change to riders will be riding this fiasco.
Post by: ren on May 15, 2021, 09:01:43 AM
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eliteautoexportjapan.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F07%2FJapan-K-Truck-for-sale-1.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
Post by: QUIETShooter on May 15, 2021, 09:14:22 AM
I noticed that certain vehicles had different license plates than other vehicles. I learned that, depending on the license, you can or cannot drive on certain roads. The smaller vehicles were forbidden on highways and freeways because their engines and HP were too small.
Their licenses only relegated them to traveling within the confines of the village or prefecture.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on May 15, 2021, 12:05:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/fiPhkIH.jpg)
As for Japan, they have a large range of vehicle license plate classes. The Yellow plates were common -- smallest engine size (<660 cc) that was authorized for highway travel. They are normally required to be in the "slow" lane. There are roads in the mountain areas that prohibit these cars due to their weak engines.
The US Military for the most part have "Y" plates (white) or "A" plates (yellow). Many of the smaller engine vehicles are used exclusively on base.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_Japan
Post by: ren on May 15, 2021, 12:36:55 PM
I parked next to a Smart Car at Costco yesterday. How many trips would it take to get a buggy full of Costco goods home?
(https://i.imgur.com/fiPhkIH.jpg)
As for Japan, they have a large range of vehicle license plate classes. The Yellow plates were common -- smallest engine size (<660 cc) that was authorized for highway travel. They are normally required to be in the "slow" lane. There are roads in the mountain areas that prohibit these cars due to their weak engines.
The US Military for the most part have "Y" plates (white) or "A" plates (yellow). Many of the smaller engine vehicles are used exclusively on base.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_Japan
my hybrid get better MPG than a "Smart" car.
Post by: groveler on May 15, 2021, 05:25:36 PM
I parked next to a Smart Car at Costco yesterday. How many trips would it take to get a buggy full of Costco goods home?Due to my somewaht mis-spent youth,
(https://i.imgur.com/fiPhkIH.jpg)
As for Japan, they have a large range of vehicle license plate classes. The Yellow plates were common -- smallest engine size (<660 cc) that was authorized for highway travel. They are normally required to be in the "slow" lane. There are roads in the mountain areas that prohibit these cars due to their weak engines.
The US Military for the most part have "Y" plates (white) or "A" plates (yellow). Many of the smaller engine vehicles are used exclusively on base.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_Japan
I laugh at these cars, it is popular in the SF bay area to roll them over and
leave them up-side down in the exact same parking spot.
When I was a kid we only put VW bugs inside the high school.
Post by: groveler on May 15, 2021, 05:33:43 PM
I've been seeing a few of those Asian small trucks on the road. Take up way less space on a lane; width and length. Probably get better MPG than western trucks. Most people own trucks now but when you think about how inefficient it is to have a vehicle that weighs several thousand pounds to transport a person that weighs on average 150lbs. In other Asian countries where population is dense they have smaller vehicles i.e. Singapore.Daihatsu?
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eliteautoexportjapan.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F07%2FJapan-K-Truck-for-sale-1.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
We used to have these for running around the taxiways and parking ramps at Boeing field.
They were not Democrat DOT street legal.
Post by: hvybarrels on May 15, 2021, 07:25:08 PM
Post by: ren on May 15, 2021, 08:50:15 PM
Their fundamental attraction is their price — between $600 and $2,500 — and that drivers can charge them the same way they would a cell phone.
Post by: Glasser on May 16, 2021, 03:21:05 PM
In the late 70s my Mom had a VW Diesel Rabbit. That thing got 45 city / 50 + hwy MPG, way better than any 'green car' gets now. But coal rollers are some how 'evil'
Why not go even smaller and get a Cushman? You used to be able to pick em up cheap at HPD auctions back in the day.
(http://www.zamurai.net/misc/200603/NYPD_Cushman_01.JPG)
Post by: groveler on May 16, 2021, 04:15:57 PM
Kind of surprised they allow those itty bitty Japanese vehicles to be imported into the US. They dont come anywhere near meeting US impact / collision standards. Used to be you couldnt even bring in EU Mercedes Benz passenger vehicles without adding kits that retrofit extra bracing in the doors to keep you from being killed in a T-bone collision. Americans love to sue over auto accidents, in Japan I dont even think you can.My understanding is that you can sue in Japan.
In the late 70s my Mom had a VW Diesel Rabbit. That thing got 45 city / 50 + hwy MPG, way better than any 'green car' gets now. But coal rollers are some how 'evil'
Why not go even smaller and get a Cushman? You used to be able to pick em up cheap at HPD auctions back in the day.
(http://www.zamurai.net/misc/200603/NYPD_Cushman_01.JPG)
However the loser pays all the legal and court expenses.
I think the Commandment,
"thou shall not bear false witness" applies there.
Democrats in our America obliterated that concept years ago.
Post by: Glasser on May 16, 2021, 05:02:00 PM
My understanding is that you can sue in Japan.
However the loser pays all the legal and court expenses.
I think the Commandment,
"thou shall not bear false witness" applies there.
Democrats in our America obliterated that concept years ago.
I just remember doing a construction project in Tokyo and watching them do super crazy stuff, like flying in huge heavy loads via crane and gantry over busy sidewalks without traffic control, cones, warning signs or any form of safety for pedestrians. I asked the general contractor 'really?' He said 'This is Japan, if you are stupid enough to walk under it and get squished if it falls, its your own fault', I asked about lawsuits he said again 'This is Japan, you can't sue'.
I am guessing its way different than the US where you can sue because being born stupid somehow makes you a victim that should get cash and prizes. Tidepods shouldn't be so delicious.
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 16, 2021, 06:55:42 PM
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Post by: oldfart on May 16, 2021, 07:02:17 PM
Taiwan police have fleets of mopeds....
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Can you imagine some HPD cops of the large polynesian variety on a moped?
Post by: QUIETShooter on May 16, 2021, 07:37:00 PM
...
Can you imagine some HPD cops of the large polynesian variety on a moped?
Your post drummed up visions of a Circus where a large bear with a birthday hat is balancing on a unicycle. :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 16, 2021, 08:35:57 PM
...In all my trips to taiwan, only seen 1 fat chick. And she worked at a bakery.
Can you imagine some HPD cops of the large polynesian variety on a moped?
Mopeds even had blue and red lights on them too.
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Post by: Glasser on May 20, 2021, 07:55:18 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-9598583/Ford-unveils-40-000-F-150-Lightning-electric-pick-truck.html
Post by: omnigun on May 20, 2021, 09:57:43 AM
Ford unveils its $40,000 F-150 Lightning electric pick-up truck with a 300-mile range
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-9598583/Ford-unveils-40-000-F-150-Lightning-electric-pick-truck.html
Yeah saw that, hope it leads to more electric "cars". Future looking brighter.
Post by: drck1000 on May 20, 2021, 10:03:13 AM
I've been seeing a few of those Asian small trucks on the road. Take up way less space on a lane; width and length. Probably get better MPG than western trucks. Most people own trucks now but when you think about how inefficient it is to have a vehicle that weighs several thousand pounds to transport a person that weighs on average 150lbs. In other Asian countries where population is dense they have smaller vehicles i.e. Singapore.Had a chance to drive those and some smaller "trucks" around in Japan about 5 years ago. Good fun. I would say (exaggerating) it's maybe a step above a lawnmower engine. :rofl:
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 20, 2021, 10:35:54 AM
Ford unveils its $40,000 F-150 Lightning electric pick-up truck with a 300-mile range
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-9598583/Ford-unveils-40-000-F-150-Lightning-electric-pick-truck.html
Is that the truck that Biden was fake driving?
Post by: bass monkey on May 20, 2021, 10:43:19 AM
Had a chance to drive those and some smaller "trucks" around in Japan about 5 years ago. Good fun. I would say (exaggerating) it's maybe a step above a lawnmower engine. :rofl:
Like driving a civic flat bed?
Post by: drck1000 on May 20, 2021, 11:36:24 AM
Like driving a civic flat bed?More like a Smart Car flat bed. . . ;D
Post by: Glasser on May 20, 2021, 03:06:16 PM
Is that the truck that Biden was fake driving?
Yes.
Post by: ren on May 20, 2021, 04:20:14 PM
Post by: Glasser on May 20, 2021, 06:04:55 PM
there's nothing green about vehicles - EV or not. One thing that people don't mention is all the rubber from tires end up in the air.
And rare earth mining for batteries is the new Blood Diamonds. You dont think we stayed in Afghanistan all this time because of Al Qaeda do you? It is also why China is trying to take over Africa.
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/rare-earth-afghanistan-sits-1-trillion-minerals-n196861
No War for Oil! The hippies say, but they have no problem bombing places to get the newest iPhones and a Prius
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 20, 2021, 07:44:47 PM
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Post by: omnigun on May 21, 2021, 06:37:47 AM
And rare earth mining for batteries is the new Blood Diamonds. You dont think we stayed in Afghanistan all this time because of Al Qaeda do you? It is also why China is trying to take over Africa.
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/rare-earth-afghanistan-sits-1-trillion-minerals-n196861
No War for Oil! The hippies say, but they have no problem bombing places to get the newest iPhones and a Prius
War for the greater good👍. Fighting for natural resources is normal. Much rather fight over batteries than oil. Ones better for the environment.
Post by: macsak on May 21, 2021, 07:10:12 AM
War for the greater good👍. Fighting for natural resources is normal. Much rather fight over batteries than oil. Ones better for the environment.
wow...
Post by: omnigun on May 21, 2021, 07:23:24 AM
wow...
sarcasm is hard
Post by: bass monkey on May 21, 2021, 07:24:19 AM
More like a Smart Car flat bed. . . ;D
Never drove a smart car, but if it's less then a civic & barely over a lawnmower engine that says a lot
Post by: stangzilla on May 21, 2021, 07:25:34 AM
mpg's not so good, but who cares :thumbsup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pvFPHK75vE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUBUXU3vdcs
Post by: ren on May 21, 2021, 10:25:19 AM
War for the greater good👍. Fighting for natural resources is normal. Much rather fight over batteries than oil. Ones better for the environment.
comfortable to say for someone who won't serve in the military
Post by: astroboy on May 21, 2021, 12:05:24 PM
there's nothing green about vehicles - EV or not. One thing that people don't mention is all the rubber from tires end up in the air.
The disposal of EV batteries will be a huge problem. Used up batteries cannot be dumped into a land fill. The batteries
will have to be packed up and shipped over seas to be reclaimed.
Once the warranty expires expect to pay thru the nose for a replacement. I have heard that it can cost up to $15k per vehicle.
Price is for parts, labor, and of course disposal of old battery pack. Tesla hopes to reduce the cost down to $5k per vehicle.
Post by: drck1000 on May 21, 2021, 12:08:28 PM
Haven’t driven one of those either. I was exaggerating, but probably not that far from reality. Haha
Never drove a smart car, but if it's less then a civic & barely over a lawnmower engine that says a lot
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 21, 2021, 12:09:57 PM
My high school QB, who was also the most popular guy in school drove a small European mini type of POS, like pre 1980's. So tiny that 1 day 4 linemen moved his car by dragging/picking it up.
Post by: Glasser on May 21, 2021, 12:38:35 PM
The disposal of EV batteries will be a huge problem. Used up batteries cannot be dumped into a land fill. The batteries
will have to be packed up and shipped over seas to be reclaimed.
Once the warranty expires expect to pay thru the nose for a replacement. I have heard that it can cost up to $15k per vehicle.
Price is for parts, labor, and of course disposal of old battery pack. Tesla hopes to reduce the cost down to $5k per vehicle.
Irony is greenie commies scream about the need to recycle everything but only 10% of a lithium battery can be reclaimed. Ever watch videos of dirt poor Mexicans or Indians combing thru landfills for tech scraps to turn them in hoping they found their boss a couple micrograms on gold tipped terminals? Imagine those poor folks now having to dig in Hazmat unprotected for a couple grams of battery material.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on May 21, 2021, 12:52:14 PM
No one mentioned yet, the smaller your car, the bigger the boto. And the bigger the car, the smaller the boto.
My high school QB, who was also the most popular guy in school drove a small European mini type of POS, like pre 1980's. So tiny that 1 day 4 linemen moved his car by dragging/picking it up.
I test drove a Geo Metro while car shopping in the mid 80s. I can't see how anyone who test drove that thing bought it! Not only can you not see over the car handle of the traffic beside you, if you get hit, you'd barely register as a bug on the other driver's force of impact.
Then I drove the "new" Hyundai Excel and Fiat Rigata. Both felt like the Geo -- made out of aluminum foil. The surprise is how much the Fiat cost (3 times the Geo). Safety has always been a concern with every car I bought. I settled on a new Mazda B2000 pickup for $7,000 that included A/C and other "extras" -- like the left side mirror! :wtf:
Needless to say, as we venture into the world of Japanese mini vehicles and Smart Car vehicles, the memories of those 1980 cars make me say, "No!" right off the bat.
Might as well ban all cars and give everyone a Segway... :geekdanc:
(https://i.imgur.com/kO7mgJQ.jpg).
Post by: drck1000 on May 21, 2021, 12:56:10 PM
No one mentioned yet, the smaller your car, the bigger the boto. And the bigger the car, the smaller the boto.Not proven in court. #fakenews
My high school QB, who was also the most popular guy in school drove a small European mini type of POS, like pre 1980's. So tiny that 1 day 4 linemen moved his car by dragging/picking it up.
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 21, 2021, 01:00:43 PM
The disposal of EV batteries will be a huge problem. Used up batteries cannot be dumped into a land fill. The batteries
will have to be packed up and shipped over seas to be reclaimed.
Once the warranty expires expect to pay thru the nose for a replacement. I have heard that it can cost up to $15k per vehicle.
Price is for parts, labor, and of course disposal of old battery pack. Tesla hopes to reduce the cost down to $5k per vehicle.
1st gen Teslas had 1 huge battery that cost about $40K and last about 6 years.. Now they have 12 smaller ones instead that cost about $1500 each that last 8 years. So when it comes time to replacement after 8 years or so then only about 2-3 would need replacing. Not all 12. But Tesla also developed a newer battery that last even longer. It's not installed in the newer vehicles yet.
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 21, 2021, 01:04:51 PM
I test drove a Geo Metro while car shopping in the mid 80s. I can't see how anyone who test drove that thing bought it! Not only can you not see over the car handle of the traffic beside you, if you get hit, you'd barely register as a bug on the other driver's force of impact.
Then I drove the "new" Hyundai Excel and Fiat Rigata. Both felt like the Geo -- made out of aluminum foil. The surprise is how much the Fiat cost (3 times the Geo). Safety has always been a concern with every car I bought. I settled on a new Mazda B2000 pickup for $7,000 that included A/C and other "extras" -- like the left side mirror! :wtf:
Needless to say, as we venture into the world of Japanese mini vehicles and Smart Car vehicles, the memories of those 1980 cars make me say, "No!" right off the bat.
Might as well ban all cars and give everyone a Segway... :geekdanc:
(https://i.imgur.com/kO7mgJQ.jpg).
Tesla is coming out with a cheaper model like in the $20K range that's comparable to a VW bug. And SUV wise, Toyota should be coming out with their EV SUV next year. There are a bunch of SUV's coming out next year that are EV. VW, Toyota, KIA, BMW.
The Tesla Cyber truck is rumored to be end of this year, but they've been saying that for 2 years now so I wouldn't count on that.
Post by: ren on May 21, 2021, 01:07:27 PM
Irony is greenie commies scream about the need to recycle everything but only 10% of a lithium battery can be reclaimed. Ever watch videos of dirt poor Mexicans or Indians combing thru landfills for tech scraps to turn them in hoping they found their boss a couple micrograms on gold tipped terminals? Imagine those poor folks now having to dig in Hazmat unprotected for a couple grams of battery material.
as a hobby I harvest 18650 cells and recently built a 52v 17.5 ah pack for my ebike. I took apart (2) Lyft ebike battery packs and had to discard the old plastic casings, nickel strips and faulty BMSs. It was a lot of work but the cells were still good. I also have a hybrid car. You'd think I'm a tree hugger but I am not. I'm just fascinated with the technology - and I dislike driving large vehicles - it feels like a chore.
With that said, I can't imagine anything "green" about current battery technology. Only if we had Mr Fusion and a flux capacitor....I think some Millennials think that it is real...
Post by: ren on May 21, 2021, 01:14:41 PM
1st gen Teslas had 1 huge battery that cost about $40K and last about 6 years.. Now they have 12 smaller ones instead that cost about $1500 each that last 8 years. So when it comes time to replacement after 8 years or so then only about 2-3 would need replacing. Not all 12. But Tesla also developed a newer battery that last even longer. It's not installed in the newer vehicles yet.
I think the S and X models still use the 18650 cell. Interesting though is that Tesla patented cell level fusing using an ultrasonic bonding process. With my current pack, I use cell level fusing but not wire bonded. I used precut nickel strips that were rated at 8 amps and pulse welded them to the cells. Another thing to consider about batteries is their characteristics. A lithium cell whether ion or poly doesn't endure deep discharges well. Wear on lithium cells is affected by charge cycles and storage voltage. In other words, don't store them at 100% for extended periods. Rule of thumb is: Charge them to 80-90% and don't run them lower than 40% for long life (generally).
Post by: Glasser on May 21, 2021, 02:55:33 PM
as a hobby I harvest 18650 cells and recently built a 52v 17.5 ah pack for my ebike. I took apart (2) Lyft ebike battery packs and had to discard the old plastic casings, nickel strips and faulty BMSs. It was a lot of work but the cells were still good. I also have a hybrid car. You'd think I'm a tree hugger but I am not. I'm just fascinated with the technology - and I dislike driving large vehicles - it feels like a chore.
With that said, I can't imagine anything "green" about current battery technology. Only if we had Mr Fusion and a flux capacitor....I think some Millennials think that it is real...
I have nothing personal against EVs, I love all vehicles, tools, contraptions and devices. I just don't buy into the myth that they are the answer to the world's problem. I certainly don't think the government have ever been able to force innovation via legislation. Obamas cash for clunkers and wasted Solyndra billions prove that. Automakers have been working on EV and Hydrogen cars most of my lifetime, the market will determine when those technologies are viable.
Watching Dems claim they will remove all gas cars off the road in 10 yrs while they buy up gobs of Tesla stock before passing those bills Tells you everything you need to know about their true motivation and it ain't the planet.
In the 2nd grade I was promised we would all be in flying cars by the year 2000, still hasn't worked out yet and not for lack of trying.
https://youtu.be/SK9KaN97PPk
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 21, 2021, 04:30:44 PM
I think the S and X models still use the 18650 cell. Interesting though is that Tesla patented cell level fusing using an ultrasonic bonding process. With my current pack, I use cell level fusing but not wire bonded. I used precut nickel strips that were rated at 8 amps and pulse welded them to the cells. Another thing to consider about batteries is their characteristics. A lithium cell whether ion or poly doesn't endure deep discharges well. Wear on lithium cells is affected by charge cycles and storage voltage. In other words, don't store them at 100% for extended periods. Rule of thumb is: Charge them to 80-90% and don't run them lower than 40% for long life (generally).Thats whats cool about teslas, they recommend dont pass 90% and u can set ur charge to stop at 90%, even if plugged in for 2 weeks. Can do from inside the car or your phones tesla app.
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Post by: stangzilla on May 21, 2021, 06:47:16 PM
Get the King Ranch or Platinum model, now you are $90k+
Post by: Glasser on May 21, 2021, 07:28:56 PM
2022 Ford Lightning base model MSRP is around $40k. Add options and you're in the $50k range
Get the King Ranch or Platinum model, now you are $90k+
Going by Fords past track record with the lastest Ranger, the new EV truck will not come out til a couple years after they claim and will sell for WAY over the MSRP for the first year + because they will slow roll production to hype demand.
Post by: omnigun on May 21, 2021, 10:02:29 PM
Irony is greenie commies scream about the need to recycle everything but only 10% of a lithium battery can be reclaimed. Ever watch videos of dirt poor Mexicans or Indians combing thru landfills for tech scraps to turn them in hoping they found their boss a couple micrograms on gold tipped terminals? Imagine those poor folks now having to dig in Hazmat unprotected for a couple grams of battery material.
Incorrect a large percentage of lithium from batteries is now possible to be reclaimed.
https://www.waste360.com/recycling/how-li-cycle-technology-retrieves-95-lithium-battery-content
Post by: macsak on May 21, 2021, 10:12:37 PM
Incorrect a large percentage of lithium from batteries are now possible to be reclaimed.
https://www.waste360.com/recycling/how-li-cycle-technology-retrieves-95-lithium-battery-content
is that sentence in English?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on May 21, 2021, 10:39:52 PM
is that sentence in English?
Negative.
And when someone uses a relative term like "large percentage", it makes me think the person either doesn't know the actual amount, or they are trying to hide an insignificant number using an ambiguous, undefined quantity. How "large" is that "percentage?" Would 33% be large? Compared to what?
But, that's how he rolls normally, so no surprise.
Post by: drck1000 on May 21, 2021, 10:40:10 PM
is that sentence in English?Eh, one company can recycle a small fraction of the toxic waste. Proof cuz
Post by: omnigun on May 21, 2021, 10:53:45 PM
Negative.
And when someone uses a relative term like "large percentage", it makes me think the person either doesn't know the actual amount, or they are trying to hide an insignificant number using an ambiguous, undefined quantity. How "large" is that "percentage?" Would 33% be large? Compared to what?
But, that's how he rolls normally, so no surprise.
takes 1 second to look at the link, dont even need to open it. They print it out in the headlines just for people like you flapp :shaka:
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on May 21, 2021, 11:00:50 PM
Eh, one company can recycle a small fraction of the toxic waste. Proof cuz
The story says they can retrieve 95% of "Lithium Battery Content". There's more content in batteries than Lithium.
Quote
After the material is shredded, the mechanical components are separated to include copper, aluminum and plastics.
Then comes the wet chemistry process to separate materials such as nickel, cobalt and lithium.
I have no idea what percentage of any car battery is Lithium compared to other components. So, the 90% number might mean that most of it is not Lithium, and only a small amount of the Lithium is actually recovered.
Difficult to tell from OG's "source" (i.e. Google search result).
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on May 21, 2021, 11:02:32 PM
takes 1 second to look at the link, dont even need to open it. They print it out in the headlines just for people like you flapp :shaka:
Read my other post. It explains how uninformative your link is.
Maybe if they wanted us to know the actual amount of Lithium material recovered that is useful as a battery, they would state that amount?
Not there.
Post by: astroboy on May 21, 2021, 11:28:50 PM
Battery replacement cost per model
S = $12-15k
X = $14K +
Y = $11-13K
3 = $13K Replacing only the defective module cost: $5-7K, So says Elon Musk.
I think I will pass on a Tesla.
Post by: astroboy on May 22, 2021, 12:11:19 AM
https://youtu.be/4VLl_r6B1JY
Post by: aletheuo137 on May 22, 2021, 06:33:55 AM
Not proven in court. #fakenewsSo if not proven in court, does that mean they don't exist!
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Post by: Glasser on May 22, 2021, 06:50:31 AM
Post by: ren on May 22, 2021, 07:34:12 AM
Guys dont spook OG, they actually tried to google and sorta even did a little reading, thats a noticeably improvement over just making stuff up.
"A large percentage" (95%?) of a lithium battery is recycled is a lie. Anyone can put a lie on the internet and have Google find it.
Post by: Glasser on May 22, 2021, 07:38:29 AM
95% of a lithium battery is recycled is a lie. Anyone can put a lie on the internet and have Google find it.
Well we know their lying will never stop, but encouraging literacy is important. And obviously we also have a lot of work to do on their basic math. baby steps.
Post by: ren on May 22, 2021, 07:56:11 AM
Post by: Glasser on May 22, 2021, 08:07:08 AM
some people need to go beyond just reading sh!t. Maybe our under-the-bridge resident should stop sniffing unicorn farts and understand what is a cathode and anode.
Can we please just get OG up to elementary education level before we try to move on to high school science?
Post by: Glasser on May 22, 2021, 08:24:57 AM
California to Require Uber, Lyft Drivers to Transition to Electric Vehicles in Latest Climate Change Mandate
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/california-require-uber-lyft-drivers-transition-electric-vehicles-latest-climate-change-mandate/
Post by: aletheuo137 on May 22, 2021, 09:05:18 AM
some people need to go beyond just reading sh!t. Maybe our under-the-bridge resident should stop sniffing unicorn farts and understand what is a cathode and anode.Wow, going old school.
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Post by: groveler on May 22, 2021, 11:42:24 AM
Wow, going old school.The cathode is usually fixed biased and heated by a filament and the Anode(plate) has B+ on it.
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is that old school enough? :geekdanc:
Post by: aletheuo137 on May 22, 2021, 12:51:46 PM
The cathode is usually fixed biased and heated by a filament and the Anode(plate) has B+ on it.I have a few old tube amps! They sound better than the new amps. Something about that point to point jumpers on the tubes makes a big difference in sound!!
is that old school enough? :geekdanc:
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Post by: changemyoil66 on May 22, 2021, 05:06:07 PM
I visited Tesla owner websites and here is what I found:That's if u gotta replace all the units. Tesla has a 8 year battery warranty. They do say after 8 years only a few might need replacing. So for the model Y, maybe ur spending $3k or so to replace 2-3 units.
Battery replacement cost per model
S = $12-15k
X = $14K +
Y = $11-13K
3 = $13K Replacing only the defective module cost: $5-7K, So says Elon Musk.
I think I will pass on a Tesla.
Idk what other brand EVs replacement schedule is like.
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Post by: Flapp_Jackson on May 22, 2021, 05:41:28 PM
That's if u gotta replace all the units. Tesla has a 8 year battery warranty. They do say after 8 years only a few might need replacing. So for the model Y, maybe ur spending $3k or so to replace 2-3 units.
Idk what other brand EVs replacement schedule is like.
Maybe. But that's $3K or so for the few that died this month. Over some period of time, you'll have to replace them all.
And, if prices are like most things, they'll encourage you to do a full replacement by making it cheaper compared to the $3K repair multiple times.
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 24, 2021, 09:21:06 AM
So if 1 car can get 300 miles for all 12 units. That's about 25 miles per unit at 100%. So if 3 units are operating at 50% then you lose about 36 miles (12.5 miles per unit loss) of 300 miles. That's taking into the fact that the other 9 units are still working at 100% efficiency. So you don't really need to change the batteries out as in they are not "dead". You would just get less miles and depending on your usage is if 1 would replace them or not. For me, I drive about 5,000 miles a year, so someone like me would not spend the money to replace them.
IDK what Prius, Volt, etc... stats for their batteries or warranty are.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on May 24, 2021, 10:05:45 AM
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First, they say no fossil fuel cars after 2035. In the US, we drive
3.2 Trillion miles per year. Electric cars use ~0.3 kWh/mile.
We'll need to build a 1 GW nuclear plant every 3 weeks starting
tomorrow JUST for the extra electricity to charge the [cars].
https://youtu.be/TwWzmu_rKFA
p.s. Nuclear energy is perhaps the cleanest form of green energy available that can keep up with our country's energy demands.
Post by: groveler on May 24, 2021, 10:54:09 AM
I have a few old tube amps! They sound better than the new amps. Something about that point to point jumpers on the tubes makes a big difference in sound!!Simple explanation when tubs saturate the waveform "rounds off", with a transistor the waveform distorts.
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FETs are the best, but very underused solution.
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Post by: groveler on May 24, 2021, 11:09:17 AM
https://youtu.be/TwWzmu_rKFAI completely agree with you on the use of Nuclear energy.
p.s. Nuclear energy is perhaps the cleanest form of green energy available that can keep up with our country's energy demands.
Your posted Video alludes to the problem , but doesn't explicitly state it.
The majority of people are stupid and easily misled.
Every successful person knows that "perceptions are far more powerful than
facts and data".
So we have the constant tension, "we can't live with them and we can't kill them",
I'll add to that, YET.
Perhaps if more people understood that the sun is a rather large Fusion Nuclear reactor,
bombarding you with harmful radiation everyday and all those stars at night are
the same thing, they'd never come out in public again.
Post by: Glasser on May 25, 2021, 08:29:01 AM
https://youtu.be/ZLrt_38LR3A?t=136
Post by: eyeeatingfish on May 28, 2021, 10:14:11 PM
Daihatsu?
We used to have these for running around the taxiways and parking ramps at Boeing field.
They were not Democrat DOT street legal.
Some regulation says you cannot have them unless they are antique or something like that. The exemption is cars over 25 years old so all these Kei trucks you see driving around are 25+ years old. People who sell them here charge something like $7,000 despite the age. Probably easy to work on and relatively simple.
I am thinking of getting one for my kid once they reach driving age.
Post by: ren on June 01, 2021, 09:58:34 PM
Post by: changemyoil66 on June 02, 2021, 09:03:03 AM
Isn't it incredibly inefficient to have a 2000 + pound piece of machinery carry a human weighing a couple hundred pounds? Need more Gigawatts!
But horses fart and cause the ozone to deplete. :rofl:
Post by: drck1000 on June 02, 2021, 09:24:08 AM
But horses fart and cause the ozone to deplete. :rofl:Cow farts are 100x worse. . . :o
;D
[no idea if true, b4 Mr. Tourettes chimes in]
:rofl:
Post by: groveler on June 02, 2021, 10:27:22 AM
Cow farts are 100x worse. . . :oI have a heifer, mule, and donkey.
;D
[no idea if true, b4 Mr. Tourettes chimes in]
:rofl:
It is my many dogs, that all fart, that are really bad.
:shake:
Post by: drck1000 on June 02, 2021, 10:37:05 AM
I have a heifer, mule, and donkey.Ya, dog farts can be nasty. Especially those little dogs. Growing up, my grandma had two small dogs (Lhasa apso and Lhasa/poodle) and they'd usually sleep with me when I stayed over. The poodle used to sleep with his but somewhat near my head and that little f#%ker would let some silent and very violent ones go! :rofl:
It is my many dogs, that all fart, that are really bad.
:shake:
Post by: Glasser on June 12, 2021, 09:20:02 AM
Environmentalist Groups File Complaint To Block Tesla's German Gigafactory Construction
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/german-environmentalist-groups-file-complaint-block-approval-teslas-gigafactory
Post by: changemyoil66 on June 12, 2021, 11:05:03 AM
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Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 12, 2021, 11:15:40 AM
Tesla also uses no leather due to cows.
Cows are used for a large percentage of foods for both human and animal consumption. They also produce milk which is used for cheese, butter, cream, etc., etc.
Cows are not going away. Using the hide for leather seats doesn't cause any additional cows to be bred or slaughtered. The only additional/unique impact on the environment would be the chemicals used in the tanning process. Electric power production is the number one impact on the environment in leather production processes. The chemicals are more of a pollution concern, which can be mitigated.
As with many products, leather goods are imported from countries with cheaper labor and fewer regulations to control pollution. So, while we sit around making new laws to stop leather production in the US, the demand still exists, and the suppliers are primarily not US-based. The arguments against leather production are academic at best.
Post by: groveler on June 12, 2021, 12:25:53 PM
Tesla also uses no leather due to cows.Most synthetic leather is made from Hydro-Carbon based Oil.
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Oil supposedly is not renewable. Cows are.
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Post by: oldfart on June 12, 2021, 01:24:07 PM
Tesla also uses no leather due to cows.......
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Nuthin wrong with cows.....
Reminder,
It's 1 month to National Cow Day. Mark your calendar.
July 13th. I'm celebrating.!
(https://i.postimg.cc/660LQf4C/IMG-20210411-093745-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/c6v89YmJ)
Post by: bass monkey on June 12, 2021, 02:07:34 PM
Street legal for Hawaii
RHD
Quite affordable as well.
They tiny as heck as well
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 12, 2021, 02:40:35 PM
......
Nuthin wrong with cows.....
Reminder,
It's 1 month to National Cow Day. Mark your calendar.
July 13th. I'm celebrating.!
So, is it National Cow Day from OUR point of view, or from the COW'S?
That would make a difference in how we show our appreciation! :geekdanc: :thumbsup:
(https://i.imgur.com/i8ZZElm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lr2dXrR.jpg)
Post by: Glasser on June 12, 2021, 07:15:13 PM
I actually found a dealer for these types of Japan cars.
Street legal for Hawaii
RHD
Quite affordable as well.
They tiny as heck as well
Do they sell those 3 wheeled mopeds with the bubble cabin? They are everywhere in Tokyo,
Domino's Pizza had fleets for delivery.
(http://www.japanstyle.info/wordpress/wp-content/images/20110614Motorbike-02.jpg)
(https://www.bikesrepublic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/pizza-scooter-racing-1.jpg)
Post by: bass monkey on June 12, 2021, 09:54:45 PM
Do they sell those 3 wheeled mopeds with the bubble cabin? They are everywhere in Tokyo,
Domino's Pizza had fleets for delivery.
(http://www.japanstyle.info/wordpress/wp-content/images/20110614Motorbike-02.jpg)
(https://www.bikesrepublic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/pizza-scooter-racing-1.jpg)
I haven't seen any of those, only the Honda street van, a few other VW vans, but mostly the Daihatsu, Suzuki, etc trucks
Post by: Direjackalope on June 12, 2021, 11:19:54 PM
Post by: aieahound on June 12, 2021, 11:38:43 PM
Post by: oldfart on June 13, 2021, 03:46:10 AM
National Cow appreciation day next month was part of the Chik Fil A advertising campaign.
This has nothing to do with small cars. Just cows.
I have a large suv with leather seats and fully appreciate the cows that made them.
Fyi, I drive a small car to work and I love it. I barely use 20 bucks a week for gas and parking is never a problem.
Ok, back to regular programming now.
Post by: changemyoil66 on June 13, 2021, 07:00:37 AM
Diverting back to tesla and leather and cows.The leather issue is like the electric issue. No use gas, but uses oil to gather materials for the batteries. No use cows, but is making pleather and its chemicals better?
National Cow appreciation day next month was part of the Chik Fil A advertising campaign.
This has nothing to do with small cars. Just cows.
I have a large suv with leather seats and fully appreciate the cows that made them.
Fyi, I drive a small car to work and I love it. I barely use 20 bucks a week for gas and parking is never a problem.
Ok, back to regular programming now.
But elon is trying.unlike others who talk a big game and dont drive an EV.
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Post by: oldfart on June 13, 2021, 07:19:41 AM
The leather issue is like the electric issue. No use gas, but uses oil to gather materials for the batteries. No use cows, but is making pleather and its chemicals better?====================
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Sounds like a no win situation but if you think about it, cows are a multi-purpose item.
Look at all the wonderful stuff cows make besides luxurious seat covers.
Steaks, roasts, ribs, jello, milk, ice cream, butter, beef jerky, kal-bi, cheeseburgers, holsters, mag pouches, belts, pants, jackets, hats, sex paraphernalia....
seems like a no-brainer to me
Post by: changemyoil66 on June 13, 2021, 08:56:52 AM
====================Some morons are protesting his factory in germany too.
Sounds like a no win situation but if you think about it, cows are a multi-purpose item.
Look at all the wonderful stuff cows make besides luxurious seat covers.
Steaks, roasts, ribs, jello, milk, ice cream, butter, beef jerky, kal-bi, cheeseburgers, holsters, mag pouches, belts, pants, jackets, hats, sex paraphernalia....
seems like a no-brainer to me
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